How Long Before We All Get Kicked Out?

[CrossBones]

Well we all know that Thailand is a bit of a mickey-mouse country with an inflated ego and most of us have learnt that the powers that be in this country despise ordinary farangs. We have come to accept that unless we are especially wealthy our presence here is mildly tolerated. Thai culture teaches the uneducated locals that they are superior to us, and the educated Thais resent us because they know in all honesty that this is not true. Perhaps they have an inferiority complex.. but one thing for sure is that in Thailand they most certainly call the shots and stick together for their own interested so in that respect when we are in Thailand we are most certainly at the bottom of the barrel.

I am wondering how long it will be before we are evicted from this country permanently, and what will happen if we lose the right to own condos and the right to be married to a Thai.

I say this seriously because I dont think its too far fetched that things may actually come to this eventually.

[longstebe]

Money talks.

And surely we help better the economy.

Hopefully this is a good enough reason to let us stay in this beautiful country.

[neverdie]

Being wise enuf not to invest in this phark of a country, I personally couldnt give a <deleted> if this happens, theres plenty of other places in the world I can go & probably will irregardless of what the authorities here have to say.

[Lost in LOS]

the whole world is watching so i am not worried. I lay low, show respect and dont bother anyone and they dont bother me. I'm staying unless the drag me out, which I dont see happening

[sanook2me]

Well we all know that Thailand is a bit of a mickey-mouse country with an inflated ego and most of us have learnt that the powers that be in this country despise ordinary farangs. We have come to accept that unless we are especially wealthy our presence here is mildly tolerated. Thai culture teaches the uneducated locals that they are superior to us, and the educated Thais resent us because they know in all honesty that this is not true. Perhaps they have an inferiority complex.. but one thing for sure is that in Thailand they most certainly call the shots and stick together for their own interested so in that respect when we are in Thailand we are most certainly at the bottom of the barrel.

I am wondering how long it will be before we are evicted from this country permanently, and what will happen if we lose the right to own condos and the right to be married to a Thai.

I say this seriously because I dont think its too far fetched that things may actually come to this eventually.

Is this factual or your opinion?

Any evidence to back up your personal thoughts that you can relate to your posting so that it has some revelance on here?

Probably not.

To answer your sad, non empirical diatribe. One word

NEVER!

[tweezer]

irregardless, neverdie?

[patklang]

Well we all know that Thailand is a bit of a mickey-mouse country with an inflated ego and most of us have learnt that the powers that be in this country despise ordinary farangs. We have come to accept that unless we are especially wealthy our presence here is mildly tolerated. Thai culture teaches the uneducated locals that they are superior to us, and the educated Thais resent us because they know in all honesty that this is not true. Perhaps they have an inferiority complex.. but one thing for sure is that in Thailand they most certainly call the shots and stick together for their own interested so in that respect when we are in Thailand we are most certainly at the bottom of the barrel.

I am wondering how long it will be before we are evicted from this country permanently, and what will happen if we lose the right to own condos and the right to be married to a Thai.

I say this seriously because I dont think its too far fetched that things may actually come to this eventually.

Is this factual or your opinion?

Any evidence to back up your personal thoughts that you can relate to your posting so that it has some revelance on here?

Probably not.

To answer your sad, non empirical diatribe. One word

NEVER!

same as you mate,the op must have been hurt over here lol.Why would the thai government throw us out????

Anyway if they did plenty more countries to live,enjoy,be happy cha cha tirak

[camerata]

...the powers that be in this country despise ordinary farangs.... We have come to accept that unless we are especially wealthy our presence here is mildly tolerated. ... when we are in Thailand we are most certainly at the bottom of the barrel.

I think you are overly pessimistic and paranoid. The Burmese are at the bottom of the barrel here. I'm not wealthy and I've never felt that the authorities despise me. Officials were very helpful when I applied for PR. At Songkran I had 200 staff pour scented water over my hands as a mark of respect simply because I happen to be one of the oldies in the company. I regularly get asked to give speeches at weddings and have to sit at the VIP table. It's all a matter of attitude and how well you fit in.

I am wondering how long it will be before we are evicted from this country permanently, and what will happen if we lose the right to own condos and the right to be married to a Thai.

It'll never happen. There would be no advantage to it for the Thais - and many disadvantages. The last time Thais evicted all farang from the country was in the 17th century, but that was because of a plot to convert the king to Catholicism.

[neverdie]

irregardless, neverdie?

yep, irregardless. I neverdie

[sassienie]

Well we all know that Thailand is a bit of a mickey-mouse country with an inflated ego and most of us have learnt that the powers that be in this country despise ordinary farangs. We have come to accept that unless we are especially wealthy our presence here is mildly tolerated. Thai culture teaches the uneducated locals that they are superior to us, and the educated Thais resent us because they know in all honesty that this is not true. Perhaps they have an inferiority complex.. but one thing for sure is that in Thailand they most certainly call the shots and stick together for their own interested so in that respect when we are in Thailand we are most certainly at the bottom of the barrel.

I am wondering how long it will be before we are evicted from this country permanently, and what will happen if we lose the right to own condos and the right to be married to a Thai.

I say this seriously because I dont think its too far fetched that things may actually come to this eventually.

Is this factual or your opinion?

Any evidence to back up your personal thoughts that you can relate to your posting so that it has some revelance on here?

Probably not.

To answer your sad, non empirical diatribe. One word

NEVER!

Never say never and never take anything for granted.

[deprogrammed]

How people conceive Thailand depends on many things, but length of stay seems upmost. At some point anyone with a spark of inteligence realizes that they are behind enemy lines.

Lets justy consider the name of the most popular political party in recent times: Thai Love Thai Party.

What next - That Hate Foreigner Party (Not that far out really).

Most people I know have actually thought about the prospect of having to dump there house or condo in the event of an unfriendly power shift.

Then ofcourse that is to ridiculous to contemplate in such a stable country run by well adjusted logical individuals

[mrtoad]

The sky is falling.

[SMEEERE]

irregardless, neverdie?

yep, irregardless. I neverdie

sniff, sniff ..wahts that i smell an english taecher ?. lot of em about,

[simon43]

I have it on good authority that we will all be asked to leave at 3.48pm on 12th June....

Simon

[robbiecia]

Better keep this thread very low profile

Don't want to start giving the powers that be any ideas do we?

[Pez]

Mr Bones,

I feel sadness for you, things can't be good for for some reason.

First, respect, I see a lot of Thia's showing considerable respect to feranges even if they do nothing to deserve it. On the other hand a lot of Thia's quite often laugh at ferange because they behave so stupidly particulalry with Thai women. Where you live and how long you have been in LOS can affect you perception of living here. I have lived in BKK and spent quite a lot of time in Pattaya but now live in Isan - what a difference in my outlook now.

Getting rid of ferange, well I am not worried, yes they will tighten-up rules ie limiting the number of border runs as we have seen recently but if you follow the rules and meet the criteria living in LOS is not a problem.

It is a shame the Thia's are so protective of their land, if they allowed limited ownership of land there would be a huge boost to the building industry as a whole. ie Allow 1 Rai 1 time for domestic purposes only - to the holder of a Retirement Visa would also be the Saviour of many legal problems as well.

Don't worry, be happy, have another beer( before the Tax goes up)

[wasabi]

Kick me out! They couldn't pay me to stay. Well maybe for 100- 200 Million Baht they could.

[yabaaaa]

I have it on good authority that we will all be asked to leave at 3.48pm on 12th June....

Simon

Sorry I'm busy that day!!

[jumnien]

Kick me out! They couldn't pay me to stay. Well maybe for 100- 200 Million Baht they could.

Then why do you? Just curious.

[Datsun240Z]

since all the millionaire farangs living in thailand wont help us......lets pool our money together and over throw the Cambodian government...be about 3 years fighting but after that we could tax the dumb ones on thaivisa who come over to our casinos

Why Thailand does not allow gambling, I never understood to.

[hhgz]

"Thai culture teaches the uneducated locals that they are superior to us..."

In many cases, the Thais are superior. Uneducated farangs believe that they are superior to all Thais.

[Lancelot]

IMHO I don't see foresee any official policy to deport foreigners. Recent events with the Aussie mom who was acused of stealing a bar mat shows that Thailand does care about its international reputation. Because of intensive international negative press her case was expedited and her fine was paid by the Phuket Govenor. At most I would imagine that the government would simply increase the bureaucratic hassel of remaining in Thailand longer than a couple of weeks.

I live in Pattaya and I do believe that Thais are increasingly feeling the effects of the ongoing political crisis and world economic crisis. I have observed that they are a bit short with each other and yes, they sometimes vent on foreigners. I believe that we are viewed as a low risk target and if a Thai is rude or agressive to a foreigner, what recourse does he really have? It pretty much boils down to accepting your fate or adopting the time honored strategy of "voting with your feet" and relocating to a place where you are accepted.

[JR Texas]

IMHO I don't see foresee any official policy to deport foreigners. Recent events with the Aussie mom who was acused of stealing a bar mat shows that Thailand does care about its international reputation. Because of intensive international negative press her case was expedited and her fine was paid by the Phuket Govenor. At most I would imagine that the government would simply increase the bureaucratic hassel of remaining in Thailand longer than a couple of weeks.

I live in Pattaya and I do believe that Thais are increasingly feeling the effects of the ongoing political crisis and world economic crisis. I have observed that they are a bit short with each other and yes, they sometimes vent on foreigners. I believe that we are viewed as a low risk target and if a Thai is rude or agressive to a foreigner, what recourse does he really have? It pretty much boils down to accepting your fate or adopting the time honored strategy of "voting with your feet" and relocating to a place where you are accepted.

The "eviction process" started a long time ago when TOXIN took office. Before that, foreigners seemed to be wanted and tolerated.

The visa/business rule changes--particularly since about 2002--are clear evidence that the govt. does have an official policy to rid Thailand of as many foreigners as possible.

Under the pretense of security, they first came for tourists that, for whatever reason, did not get a tourist visa prior to entering Thailand.......they called them "border runners."

Then they came for tourists with tourist visas........

Then, they came for foreign expats married to Thai wives......

Now they are cracking down more on tourists that enter the Kingdom without a tourist visa......

They have already made life difficult for various categories of investors and virtually any person that wants to work in Thailand.......

In the future they will no doubt start cracking down on foreigners who are purchasing several condos and renting them out for profit, often using straw man companies to do so.

And in the future they will not doubt start abrogating the grandfathered in laws.......on that day the people who currently think the visa/business rule changes are great for Thailand will receive a wake up call....maybe.

They do not want us here.........that is what the visa system is telling us. If you can't see it, you are blind.

One person already stated that nobody should invest in this country..........I agree, don't invest in Thailand. There are other countries that are far more receptive: Malaysia, the Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Indonesia.

[Dakhar]

...the powers that be in this country despise ordinary farangs.... We have come to accept that unless we are especially wealthy our presence here is mildly tolerated. ... when we are in Thailand we are most certainly at the bottom of the barrel.

I think you are overly pessimistic and paranoid. The Burmese are at the bottom of the barrel here. I'm not wealthy and I've never felt that the authorities despise me. Officials were very helpful when I applied for PR. At Songkran I had 200 staff pour scented water over my hands as a mark of respect simply because I happen to be one of the oldies in the company. I regularly get asked to give speeches at weddings and have to sit at the VIP table. It's all a matter of attitude and how well you fit in.

I am wondering how long it will be before we are evicted from this country permanently, and what will happen if we lose the right to own condos and the right to be married to a Thai.

It'll never happen. There would be no advantage to it for the Thais - and many disadvantages. The last time Thais evicted all farang from the country was in the 17th century, but that was because of a plot to convert the king to Catholicism.

Yea for an extra 200 baht I get that scented water poured on me too..... with a wry smile and an "up to you."

[PeaceBlondie]

As long as they can still suck a million baht or more from some of us (Thai Elite card, sinsod, houses, land, sick buffalo, etc.) they'll let us stay.

Forum rules:

8) Not to post extremely negative views of Thailand or derogatory comments directed towards all Thais.

[Ulysses G.]

IMHO I don't see foresee any official policy to deport foreigners. Recent events with the Aussie mom who was acused of stealing a bar mat shows that Thailand does care about its international reputation. Because of intensive international negative press her case was expedited and her fine was paid by the Phuket Govenor. At most I would imagine that the government would simply increase the bureaucratic hassel of remaining in Thailand longer than a couple of weeks.

I live in Pattaya and I do believe that Thais are increasingly feeling the effects of the ongoing political crisis and world economic crisis. I have observed that they are a bit short with each other and yes, they sometimes vent on foreigners. I believe that we are viewed as a low risk target and if a Thai is rude or agressive to a foreigner, what recourse does he really have? It pretty much boils down to accepting your fate or adopting the time honored strategy of "voting with your feet" and relocating to a place where you are accepted.

The "eviction process" started a long time ago when TOXIN took office. Before that, foreigners seemed to be wanted and tolerated.

The visa/business rule changes--particularly since about 2002--are clear evidence that the govt. does have an official policy to rid Thailand of as many foreigners as possible.

Under the pretense of security, they first came for tourists that, for whatever reason, did not get a tourist visa prior to entering Thailand.......they called them "border runners."

Then they came for tourists with tourist visas........

Then, they came for foreign expats married to Thai wives......

Now they are cracking down more on tourists that enter the Kingdom without a tourist visa......

They have already made life difficult for various categories of investors and virtually any person that wants to work in Thailand.......

In the future they will no doubt start cracking down on foreigners who are purchasing several condos and renting them out for profit, often using straw man companies to do so.

And in the future they will not doubt start abrogating the grandfathered in laws.......on that day the people who currently think the visa/business rule changes are great for Thailand will receive a wake up call....maybe.

They do not want us here.........that is what the visa system is telling us. If you can't see it, you are blind.

One person already stated that nobody should invest in this country..........I agree, don't invest in Thailand. There are other countries that are far more receptive: Malaysia, the Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Indonesia.

I have nothing against Mr Texas and I enjoy many of his posts, but I find this one to be pretty much absurd from beginning to end. I still remember when almost every farang in the country had to go to Malaysia every few months, Thaksin was the first one to make it easy to get long term visas if you were willing to pay a reasonable fee.

[Misplaced]

...the powers that be in this country despise ordinary farangs.... We have come to accept that unless we are especially wealthy our presence here is mildly tolerated. ... when we are in Thailand we are most certainly at the bottom of the barrel.

I think you are overly pessimistic and paranoid. The Burmese are at the bottom of the barrel here. I'm not wealthy and I've never felt that the authorities despise me. Officials were very helpful when I applied for PR. At Songkran I had 200 staff pour scented water over my hands as a mark of respect simply because I happen to be one of the oldies in the company. I regularly get asked to give speeches at weddings and have to sit at the VIP table. It's all a matter of attitude and how well you fit in.

I am wondering how long it will be before we are evicted from this country permanently, and what will happen if we lose the right to own condos and the right to be married to a Thai.

It'll never happen. There would be no advantage to it for the Thais - and many disadvantages. The last time Thais evicted all farang from the country was in the 17th century, but that was because of a plot to convert the king to Catholicism.

Yea for an extra 200 baht I get that scented water poured on me too..... with a wry smile and an "up to you."

Well... stop celebrating Songkran with BGs than you won't have any problem.

[wasabi]

Kick me out! They couldn't pay me to stay. Well maybe for 100- 200 Million Baht they could.

Then why do you? Just curious.

Waiting for wife's visa. I will still visit, I just don't want to live here full time.

[mommysboy]

As long as they can still suck a million baht or more from some of us (Thai Elite card, sinsod, houses, land, sick buffalo, etc.) they'll let us stay.

Forum rules:

8) Not to post extremely negative views of Thailand or derogatory comments directed towards all Thais.

what a nut!

Ok it's Friday night, beer night all round.

We're wanted up to a point!

Don't invest any money in Thailand that you want to take back with you at some point, it aint gonna happen! Simple.

Will we all be given our marching orders? Yes I reckon so one way or another. But it's going to be a matter of jumping ship for most.

[BigSnake]

Never happen, the all mighty Baht(tourist) drives the Country and goodness knows we farangs spend mak mak Baht day in and day out on any and everything, beside I don't think Thailand need imagines of bar girls prostesting in the street, because a source of income was kickout of country for no reason, talking about blood shed, a bunch of angry(Batter by Thai lover/husbands) Thai women going face to face with the police. a match made in hel_l.