Middle Aged/older Women

[Harcourt]

"Cougar" is the en vogue label used for older, financially independant women looking for a toyboy.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[Datsun240Z]

I know of a man in his early twenties who is in a long distance relationship with an american woman in her fifties. They met at the hotel he works at, slept together every night she stayed there and since keep in touch by email. They are in love, despite the grief he gets from his mates about 'older women' and the fact she has children older than him.

Respect man, he must have alot of bashing on him.

[PeaceBlondie]

I had to go to the internet cafe yesterday. Across the console I enjoyed seeing a very fit woman, mid-50's, petite, North American lady with the prettiest, unwrinkled, smiling face. Bilingual in Thai and English, surrounded by much younger friends. Quite a catch for the young Thai men. Then my Vietnamesse former boy-toy called from Texas

[mickvisa]

in thai society a man or boy goes with an older woman for money only ,its a societal norm ,more than what it is in the west ,

[mickvisa]

i am 45 year old but very well kept. i am black so some say thai girls do not like that but i have not noticed.

sorry my black friend(maybe)thai women dont like black men for being black but will go with them for money ,you will have to work extra hard so they forget you are black if you want to win hearts ,

[BigSnake]

There are some places in africa that is famous for middle aged white women...picking up boy-toys.

Racist??

[Harcourt]

"Cougar" is the en vogue label used for older, financially independant women looking for a toyboy.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Of course, if this wasn't worldwide, we wouldn't have the term <deleted>.

[Geekfreaklover]

Nothing wrong with hooking up with an older women if you are short of a bit of cash.

Works both ways.

Many younger male farangs / and Thais in Thailand will sleep with elder women for financial gains.

It's not just a market for the Isaan farm girl.

[bonobo]

When I was a young lad of 20, I went to Taiwan where I met a Japanese woman of 43.  She had a few too many after an evening of gambling at the old US Airforce officer's club, and we made it back to my room where she promptly fell asleep.  I left her on the bed and slept on the couch.  She thought that was rather "cute," as she said, and invited me to her place for breakfast.  I left to catch my plane 6 days later.

This was aboslutley, without doubt, one of the best experiences of my life. I don't mean to sound trite, but she taught me an enormous amount which has made many people happier down the line than if I never had the benefit of her efforts.

ALL young men need to find an experienced, older woman to teach them what their like-aged female companions just don't know enough to teach.

[IanForbes]

ALL young men need to find an experienced, older woman to teach them what their like-aged female companions just don't know enough to teach.

It goes both ways. An older man can teach a younger woman and an older woman can teach a younger man. But, it all has to do with the libido of each person. Many women don't like it and many men aren't up to the task of doing it properly.

[bonobo]

ALL young men need to find an experienced, older woman to teach them what their like-aged female companions just don't know enough to teach.

It goes both ways. An older man can teach a younger woman and an older woman can teach a younger man. But, it all has to do with the libido of each person. Many women don't like it and many men aren't up to the task of doing it properly.

I have met a few women who lost their desire for sex after menopause, but in their 40's?  I don't think I have ever met a woman in her 40's or pre-menopausal 50's who said (or acted) like she didn't like sex.  Just the opposite, in fact. From my observations, they seem to like it more.  I have met a few men, on the other hand, in their 40's and 50's who have basically lost their desire for sex.

And of course, in a perfect world, a "teacher" would have to be someone who is confident and at ease with herself, and have the patience to handle a young stud whose knowledge of intimate skills is seriously lacking and whose lasting-abilites may be on the, shall we say, brief side?

[sylviex]

There's another one in our building. Good looking kid, about 30 ish and his lady friend is in her 70's and looks like a dehydrated sack of flour. My friends sometimes talk to him and he's popped down for a drink. Very decent, polite chap, university graduate. ... One thing I have noticed though, is that these guys don't have a girl or boy on the side like the ladies do. They are rather loyal. Maybe it really is love or something. I've also noticed that the relationships seem to be classier. The guys look clean and proper and the ladies aren't from the singlet beer belly false teeth and bad tats demographic like the males.

Such relationships have occurred for centuries in various cultures, though they are not extremely common, so far as I am aware. There can be an assortment of dynamics at work; sex is usually not one of those. Love is possible. Of course, there may also be "other motivations" (or even agreements) in some situations. More middle-class/hi so tend to be more interested in overseas visas than $, if that's the case.

I have met a few women who lost their desire for sex after menopause, but in their 40's? I don't think I have ever met a woman in her 40's or pre-menopausal 50's who said (or acted) like she didn't like sex. Just the opposite, in fact. From my observations, they seem to like it more. I have met a few men, on the other hand, in their 40's and 50's who have basically lost their desire for sex.

I'd be interested in Sheryl's comments on this. Firstly, menopause can occur in the 40's or 30's -- it's not all that unusual (perhaps you did not mean to imply otherwise). Secondly, the effects on libido seem to vary a great deal from person to person, and also to vary at different points through the process. I am sure there is plenty of information on both points available online.

Also I wonder if your sample was "self selected" (biased) by its nature? Or perhaps older women develop an interest in simian partners ?

[Boo]

and it always seems to come from western ladies (mostly jealousy)

Seriously doubt it, we do have eyes after all

[Crossy]

Of course, if this wasn't worldwide, we wouldn't have the term <deleted>.

Ah yes, the "Moro Islamic Liberation Front" the worlds most ill-advised name for a terrorist organisation

[eek]

and it always seems to come from western ladies (mostly jealousy)

Seriously doubt it, we do have eyes after all

[Harcourt]

Of course, if this wasn't worldwide, we wouldn't have the term <deleted>.

Ah yes, the "Moro Islamic Liberation Front" the worlds most ill-advised name for a terrorist organisation

[bonobo]

I have met a few women who lost their desire for sex after menopause, but in their 40's? I don't think I have ever met a woman in her 40's or pre-menopausal 50's who said (or acted) like she didn't like sex. Just the opposite, in fact. From my observations, they seem to like it more. I have met a few men, on the other hand, in their 40's and 50's who have basically lost their desire for sex.

I'd be interested in Sheryl's comments on this. Firstly, menopause can occur in the 40's or 30's -- it's not all that unusual (perhaps you did not mean to imply otherwise). Secondly, the effects on libido seem to vary a great deal from person to person, and also to vary at different points through the process. I am sure there is plenty of information on both points available online.

Also I wonder if your sample was "self selected" (biased) by its nature? Or perhaps older women develop an interest in simian partners ?

In the West, menopause, which is simply the end of menses (Greek for "end of monthly cycles"), usually occurs between the ages of 45 and 55.  And you are correct, it does affect women differently.  Some women lose their interest in sex, others find their interest increases.  

As far as my "self selected" sample, of course, any woman in this age range with whom I have been intimate comes from a population who is obviously still interested in sex.  However, despite my startling good looks and personality ( ), not all women want to dally with me in that way (hard to believe, I know!  ), and much of my observations come from conversations with women, both one-on-one and in group settings.  I don't think I have ever met a pre-menopausal woman, say over the age of 35, who has admitted to a lack of sexual desire. And I have only met a few post-menopausal women who have admitted to such a lack of desire.

Edited July 7, 2009 by bonobo

[sylviex]

As far as my "self selected" sample, of course, any woman in this age range with whom I have been intimate comes from a population who is obviously still interested in sex. However, despite my startling good looks and personality ( ), not all women want to dally with me in that way (hard to believe, I know! ), and much of my observations come from conversations with women, both one-on-one and in group settings. I don't think I have ever met a pre-menopausal woman, say over the age of 35, who has admitted to a lack of sexual desire. And I have only met a few post-menopausal women who have admitted to such a lack of desire.

I think pre/peri-menopause can be quite lengthy. Changes begin at that stage, which will have physical effects, if not effects on desire. However, the physical effects may cause a lack of interest in actual sexual activity. "Lack of" suggests "complete absence of" when diminished interest may be more the case for some women (and some men, of this age).

As you indicate, what is "admitted" may differ from the reality, esp. in Thailand. Hard to know.

Meant to add: I know that some women, both Thai and Western, regard menopause, with the various changes it brings, as a kind of "release". Quite a few begin completely new lives or make significant changes to their lives at this time.

Edited July 7, 2009 by sylviex

[bonobo]

As far as my "self selected" sample, of course, any woman in this age range with whom I have been intimate comes from a population who is obviously still interested in sex. However, despite my startling good looks and personality ( ), not all women want to dally with me in that way (hard to believe, I know! ), and much of my observations come from conversations with women, both one-on-one and in group settings. I don't think I have ever met a pre-menopausal woman, say over the age of 35, who has admitted to a lack of sexual desire. And I have only met a few post-menopausal women who have admitted to such a lack of desire.

I think pre/peri-menopause can be quite lengthy. Changes begin at that stage, which will have physical effects, if not effects on desire. However, the physical effects may cause a lack of interest in actual sexual activity. "Lack of" suggests complete absence of when diminished interest may be more the case for some women (and some men, of this age).

As you indicate, what is "admitted" may differ from the reality, esp. in Thailand. Hard to know.

True, diminished is probably more common that a complete lack, for those women whose desire does not stay the same nor increase.

Most men, on the other hand, probably do experience a diminished sex drive as they age and testosterone levels fall.

[somchai69]

And Hoi An, Vietnam, is famous for Western Women abusing underage boys.

And exactly what age are we talking about here????????????????

18-21.

[Datsun240Z]

And Hoi An, Vietnam, is famous for Western Women abusing underage boys.

And exactly what age are we talking about here????????????????

18-21.

[G54]

There are two women from my home town in the UK who go to Pattaya almost every year just for the toy boys. Both are in their 60's and not looking their best these days but they love it as there sex drives have not died yet and they can ......

[longstebe]

As long as nobody is getting hurt.

Fair play to the 60yr old women with the young Thai guys.

If it was my mar then it may be a problem .

[pattaya_girl]

My Daughter introduced me to this handsome Thai guy nearly 8 Years ago, we have been together ever since.

[mahtin]

Coo, coo, ca-choo, Mrs Robinson

Jesus loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)

[torrenova]

Whether payment in cash or in kind is taking place, society looks harder at young guys with older women because the traditional couple is a man and woman where the guy is older than the girl. Could be a year or two or a decade or two.

I know that when I was in my youth, I'm not totally sure I'd have gone out with an older girl and I know that one girl I was interested in who was a year older than me, was not interested because she looked up in age, not down.

[Patsycat]

My fingers were itching to reply to this thread and i had to let them have their say on the keyboard.

I have been to Thailand and seen the older men with their younger girlfriends and was a bit shocked.

I have also been to Malindi, Kenya and seen the older women with their Masai warrior escorts.

All i can say is each to their own, have safe fun. And who care's really? And no I did not have a masai boyfriend - I was on holiday with my aging mum. But as Boo said - we do have eyes and I can say that there was alot of eye candy in Kenya!!

[TAWP]

Who cares what other people do for sex or to earn money as long as it is not damaging to anyone?

All the judgemental prudes need to all piss off back home with the other hypocrites

Wow, second post this year from you I can agree upon.

[samuibeachcomber]

Who cares what other people do for sex or to earn money as long as it is not damaging to anyone?

All the judgemental prudes need to all piss off back home with the other hypocrites

Wow, second post this year from you I can agree upon.

I have read every post in this thread and have not found one comment i would call judgemental,its a good topic with interesting replies

[bonobo]

All i can say is each to their own, have safe fun. And who care's really? And no I did not have a masai boyfriend - I was on holiday with my aging mum. But as Boo said - we do have eyes and I can say that there was alot of eye candy in Kenya!!

I work out religiously in order to try and keep some degree of a decent physique so as not to disgust women too much!  But even as a hetrosexual male, I am not afraid to admit that on a trip to Lagos last year, I was taken aback and rather envious of 90% of the men in the factory I visited. These guys, without having to work out, had bodies for which most gym rats strive. My ex used to comment on the nice looks of African students at her school, and now I understand better both her and Patsycat's comments!