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In a mod free space we can't even discuss mods?

Too many chiefs, too many egos running riot! You'll soon run out of Indians at this rate!

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I'll just say this: This site is very informative, but it is not as fun as it used to be.

As the Thais say, "If it's not 'sanuk', it is not worth bothering over."

I'll just say this: This site is very informative, but it is not as fun as it used to be.

I agree. The focus here has narrowed a lot. Some good, some way overboard, in my view. My sense is that an owner here might only feel secure in B&W rules due maybe, in part, to the varied 'personalities' of the mods here, and some you've never even met... I'd likely take a similar (but maybe more fun!) stance under such circumstances. :o

I'll just say this: This site is very informative, but it is not as fun as it used to be.

As the Thais say, "If it's not 'sanuk', it is not worth bothering over."

Well, you want to start discussing US foreign policy again? :o

In a mod free space we can't even discuss mods?

Too many chiefs, too many egos running riot! You'll soon run out of Indians at this rate!

Your point?

Boring.... :o The people who own this site ask the mods to do this job. What they decide is up to them, not you & not the mods. Go elsewhere if it upsets you so much but please, quit whining.

Boring.... :o The people who own this site ask the mods to do this job. What they decide is up to them, not you & not the mods. Go elsewhere if it upsets you so much but please, quit whining.

Maybe the point trying to be made is that people are going elsewhere, but maybe that's just a typical cycle of a forum; out with the old in with the new. I remember when I first joined up it was a little rougher and more friendly jousting was allowed

(Tutsi and Tornado giving good thrashings comes to mind). But whatever, that's the way of the world at the moment.

And Boon Mee, George W Bush is no longer exciting; all he does is invade countries, pase, old hat. Instead of bombing Iran, he might think of a little earthquake relief for them. :D Love Not Bombs.

the prof is just having a sook and trying to get some reactions from posters and bites from mods,pick that lip up farty :o

Boring.... :o The people who own this site ask the mods to do this job. What they decide is up to them, not you & not the mods. Go elsewhere if it upsets you so much but please, quit whining.

Boon Mee, George W Bush is no longer exciting; all he does is invade countries, pase, old hat. Instead of bombing Iran, he might think of a little earthquake relief for them. :D Love Not Bombs.

He hasn't bombed Iran - yet! :D

But maybe he should

Iran girl gets 100 lashes for sex

A teenage girl and two young men in Iran have been sentenced to lashes for having sex.

The court dismissed the girl's claim that we was raped. It said she had sex of her own free will, the official Iran Daily newspaper reported.

The girl was sentenced to 100 lashes because her accusations of rape and kidnap could have landed her partners a death penalty, the Tehran judge said

Maybe Dubya should drop a bomb on those judges, eh? :o

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The bottom line is that as a veteran of online forums I know when they are hitting the shit and this one is sharpish.

Used to be a top place to come and talk about EVERYTHING but now one can't even fart without a bollocking from one of your 10,000 mods.

User content never kills forums, over zealous and arrogant mods do.

Just look at the arsey comments from the no marks above. They become mods and they think they are untouchable and above criticism.

A forum this big needs 2 mods tops! not one mod per poster.

Larry! Got the PM BTW!

Yeah...I can't seem to get a rise out of p1p or anybody there days... :o

The bottom line is that as a veteran of online forums I know when they are hitting the shit and this one is sharpish.

Used to be a top place to come and talk about EVERYTHING but now one can't even fart without a bollocking from one of your 10,000 mods.

User content never kills forums, over zealous and arrogant mods do.

Just look at the arsey comments from the no marks above. They become mods and they think they are untouchable and above criticism.

A forum this big needs 2 mods tops! not one mod per poster.

Larry! Got the PM BTW!

:o what do i smell here :D somebody farted again :D

The bottom line is that as a veteran of online forums I know when they are hitting the shit and this one is sharpish.

I've been a veteran of the internet for over 15 years, i remember when the internet was basically a university backbone and no one had even thought up the term "Internet Explorer" I've been involved with countless forums being both a moderator and a regular poster... The only problem with ThaiVisa.com IMHO is its a festering troll breeding ground. Elimate the trolls and this place will be nice (and fun) again.

User content never kills forums, over zealous and arrogant mods do.

Arsey posters who do nothing but whine, b*tch and moan dont do too bad a job at destroying the atmosphere of a forum either, do they?

A forum this big needs 2 mods tops! not one mod per poster.

If two people could handle it, then there would be only two people doing it. Of course, if there were less people moaning and crying then maybe we wouldnt have quite as much to do and there would be less of us. Catch 22 situation isnt it...

Bottom line is, if you dont like it, then dont come here and post/whinge/moan...

Quite simple when you think about it.

The bottom line is that as a veteran of online forums I know when they are hitting the shit and this one is sharpish.

I've been a veteran of the internet for over 15 years, i remember when the internet was basically a university backbone and no one had even thought up the term "Internet Explorer" I've been involved with countless forums being both a moderator and a regular poster... The only problem with ThaiVisa.com IMHO is its a festering troll breeding ground. Elimate the trolls and this place will be nice (and fun) again.

User content never kills forums, over zealous and arrogant mods do.

Arsey posters who do nothing but whine, b*tch and moan dont do too bad a job at destroying the atmosphere of a forum either, do they?

A forum this big needs 2 mods tops! not one mod per poster.

If two people could handle it, then there would be only two people doing it. Of course, if there were less people moaning and crying then maybe we wouldnt have quite as much to do and there would be less of us. Catch 22 situation isnt it...

Bottom line is, if you dont like it, then dont come here and post/whinge/moan...

Quite simple when you think about it.

Here , here wolfie :D .

i have some good insider info that some members even consult each other on how things will be stirred up this week or that week... :D ain't that right professor?

So who told me ??? :o

Do you need someone to tell you? As admin you can check people's PMs right? Sounds pretty frightening if you do.

Back on track, to the complaining people, it's a case of if you don't like it leave as the mods keep telling you, and will keep telling you until too many people leave. Theres enough fresh people signing up everyday that it doesn't matter, fresh content is made for the Search Engines, member numbers are still up, and advertising can still be sold with that as a key point.

I'm not really sure they care if you are having fun or not.

As admin you can check people's PMs right?

Is this true? :o

If so, it would be responsible to advise the forum in general.

I'm not saying that any of the PM's I've sent or received have had anything wrong/immoral etc in them, but a PM (personal message) is just that... personal. :D

Taoism: shit happens

Buddhism: if shit happens, it isn't really shit

Islam: if shit happens, it is the will of Allah

Catholicism: if shit happens, you deserve it

Judaism: why does this shit always happen to us?

Atheism: I don't believe this shit

Do you need someone to tell you?  As admin you can check people's PMs right?  Sounds pretty frightening if you do.
Well i actually can't as content is hashed (encrypted). But we are sometimes informed through other members about intentions :o and plans.
Back on track, to the complaining people, it's a case of if you don't like it leave as the mods keep telling you, and will keep telling you until too many people leave.  Theres enough fresh people signing up everyday that it doesn't matter, fresh content is made for the Search Engines, member numbers are still up, and advertising can still be sold with that as a key point.

I don't care someone complains sometimes and will also address their/your concerns. but i won't for those types were complaining and whining is just a sport in itself. If that needs 20 moderators to keep it in check, so be it. We have constanly about 10 returning trolls who would love nothing more then to see all post disrupted by garbage.

We bann or suspend them and they just keep coming back to talk in this "oh so bad" forum :D

I'm not really sure they care if you are having fun or not.

Sure we care or we wouldn't put in the effort :D To make it a nice place it unfortunatly needs dealing with the trolls and "Sporty" people as well. Not to mention the "Theatricals" who just pretend to be a certain charachter :D .

For the professor:

I you enjoy stirring up trouble and playing "problem child " maybe you need to think about who's "EGO" is screwed up. :D

As admin you can check people's PMs right?

Is this true? :o

If so, it would be responsible to advise the forum in general.

I'm not saying that any of the PM's I've sent or received have had anything wrong/immoral etc in them, but a PM (personal message) is just that... personal. :D

See previous reply :D

As admin you can check people's PMs right?

Is this true? :o

If so, it would be responsible to advise the forum in general.

I'm not saying that any of the PM's I've sent or received have had anything wrong/immoral etc in them, but a PM (personal message) is just that... personal. :D

See previous reply :D

Thanks for that Darknight.

No probs here... :D

Taoism: shit happens

Buddhism: if shit happens, it isn't really shit

Islam: if shit happens, it is the will of Allah

Catholicism: if shit happens, you deserve it

Judaism: why does this shit always happen to us?

Atheism: I don't believe this shit

The bottom line is that as a veteran of online forums I know when they are hitting the shit and this one is sharpish.

I've been a veteran of the internet for over 15 years, i remember when the internet was basically a university backbone and no one had even thought up the term "Internet Explorer" I've been involved with countless forums being both a moderator and a regular poster... The only problem with ThaiVisa.com IMHO is its a festering troll breeding ground. Elimate the trolls and this place will be nice (and fun) again.

User content never kills forums, over zealous and arrogant mods do.

Arsey posters who do nothing but whine, b*tch and moan dont do too bad a job at destroying the atmosphere of a forum either, do they?

A forum this big needs 2 mods tops! not one mod per poster.

If two people could handle it, then there would be only two people doing it. Of course, if there were less people moaning and crying then maybe we wouldnt have quite as much to do and there would be less of us. Catch 22 situation isnt it...

Bottom line is, if you dont like it, then dont come here and post/whinge/moan...

Quite simple when you think about it.

Is it a poll ? I vote him off :o

Only line I have problems with is this one:

Bottom line is, if you dont like it, then dont come here and post/whinge/moan...

Similar to the argument "If you don't like the way this/that is done in Thailand, don't live here" ... ?

Ho-hum :o:D

Only line I have problems with is this one:

Bottom line is, if you dont like it, then dont come here and post/whinge/moan...

Similar to the argument "If you don't like the way this/that is done in Thailand, don't live here" ... ?

Ho-hum :o:D

well if you have a problem with it, don't read it / post here / live here :D:D

why not name , shame and just permanently ban those trollsters who make plans to disrupt ???

you seem to know who they are , you know the computer identity from which they post , can it not be done if they are really so disrupting ?

I'm not really sure they care if you are having fun or not.

Sure we care or we wouldn't put in the effort :D

Hope you didn't take that the wrong way, I was just looking at the practical reasons the forum's here and why people leaving is not a great loss to this forum, as being heavily visited from search engines you get new members everyday.

We know of course this is meant to be fun and it is, I think alot of people appreciate the more approachable admin now, and also many do not realise the practicalities of community building, and the constant running and moderation of a busy forum. If anyone thinks it's easy then have a look at the webmaster forum on community building, it's full of people having problems with their own forums, whether it be trolls, moderation policy, financing it etc.

I know Darknights getting it in the ear at the moment, every post he seems to be getting more stressed :D:D , can't help but think you should have kept Bedlam quiet and only told people about it when they hit 500 posts. Didn't you learn from leaving the VIP room visible before that it's gonna p.iss people off if they are not in here?

Ah well, life goes on. :o

Just read Taxexiles post whilst preveiwing this one. In my opinion the over the top banning and suspension without warning of posters before on this forum is why you are having such problems with trolls now. People get banned, rename themselves, feel resentment towards thaivisa and start to troll, and become more professional trolls as well, meaning you may not notice them straight away, Dr John being a prime example I think.

If there are trouble makers, best to keep them 'under the wing' so to speak, and perhaps a few explanatory PMs could work better in calming them down, and seeing the admin/mods point of view easier as a person, rather than as a 'rebel fighting the opressive machine that is thaivisa' :D .

If you start taking too much of a harsh edge with them as some mods and admin have done before they will just keep coming back with more user names, and constantly cause the forum trouble. The answer is not as easy as simply banning someone. If you shame them too, your just asking for trouble.

I had a problem here before when I was suspended, and since another forum was discussing thaivisa I posted my thoughts on there, not rudely, explanatory, and posters there were advising me many ways to keep getting back in and how to conceal your computer ID so it was impossible to get banned completley. Many of the posters there also boasted on how many names they have in this forum. All those people were previously banned people from thai visa.

Anyway, that's just my thoughts on it.

Whinging is an art form - think it does no good, but obviously some people like to whing for whinging sake.

I think if you need to have a whinge, then you can certainly offer your views in a more constructive way and and actually help, not hinder the forum.

Darknights being typing at the bottom of this topic for about 20 mins now, he's either stoned, a very slow typer or the stress has got to him and the old heart has gave up in the middle of his reply.

Bet he was really happy when he started this admin job too. lol

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