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because i have to go back to europe soon i must sell my pit bull he is 2 years old and a great house dog.must go to good home, 038 332980

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because i have to go back to europe soon i must sell my pit bull he is 2 years old and a great house dog.must go to good home, 038 332980

Babyall.

As an American Professional dog trainer with military and law enforcement back ground please take your dog with you. These pets have been involved in thousands of cases of mutilation and even cases of death and in my professional opinion, even though the females are less agressive, these dogs should be euthanized and not be allowed in Thailand.

Sorry, for I realize a pet is a family member.

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I knew there would be a negative response to your posting always is when American Pit Bull is mentioned. Bakeman is right but I hope you find a good home for him/her.

Good luck

Is there a difference between 'pit bull', and 'American Pit Bull'?

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I can't wait to hear this

I knew there would be a negative response to your posting always is when American Pit Bull is mentioned. Bakeman is right but I hope you find a good home for him/her.

Good luck

Is there a difference between 'pit bull', and 'American Pit Bull'?

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The UK has the staffordshire terrier smaller than it's American brothers and sisters so from my perspective yes there is a difference one is bigger than the other.

I take it your American scorecard?

Quote from EXPDuring the nineteenth century, dog fanciers in England, Ireland, and Scotland began to experiment with crosses between bulldogs and terriers, looking for a dog that combined the gameness of the terrier with the strength and athleticism of the bulldog. [1]

In the late 1800s to early 1900s, two clubs were formed for the specific purpose of registering APBTs: the United Kennel Club and the American Dog Breeders Association. The United Kennel Club was founded with the registration of an American Pit Bull Terrier and was the first registry to recognize the breed.

The dog was bred first to bait bulls and bears.[2] When baiting bulls was deemed inhumane, dogfighting became more popular, and the APBT was used in the sport. With time, the dogs became more commonly used as house pets due to their friendliness towards people.[3] In America, farmers and ranchers used their APBTs for protection, as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, and to drive livestock.[4] The dog was used during World War I and World War II as a way of delivering messages on the battlefield.[3]

The name "Staffordshire Terrier" was adopted by some owners as a way of distancing the breed from a name with a stigma, and was recognized by the American Kennel Club in 1936. Later, the word "American" was added to reduce confusion with its smaller British cousin, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Once an extremely popular family dog in the United States (for example, the dog in The Little Rascals movies and in Buster Brown was an APBT), the American Pit Bull Terrier's popularity began to decline in the United States following World War II in favor of other breeds.[citation needed]

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Pit Bull is a term commonly used to describe several breeds of dog in the Molosser family. Many breed-specific laws use the term "pit bull" to refer to the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and dogs with significant mixes of these breeds.

This breed comes with many restrictions as in the case of Australia. Please read below.

Australia

The importation of the dogo Argentino, fila Brasileiro, Japanese tosa, American pit bull terrier or pit bull terrier, and Perro de Presa Canario or Presa Canario into Australia is absolutely prohibited

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Bakerman, I think the American Pitbull is also banned in the UK. No problem with owning a Saffordshire though

QUOTE: In the United Kingdom, the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 prohibits the sale or breeding of "any dog of the type known as pit bull terrier

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If it had have been a bitch i would have taken it off your hands but I have an 18 month old male APBT, so its too late to introduce another male to the house. good luck in finding him a good home. Without doubt the best dogs in the world.

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If it had have been a bitch i would have taken it off your hands but I have an 18 month old male APBT, so its too late to introduce another male to the house. good luck in finding him a good home. Without doubt the best dogs in the world.

I have a Bulldog, they are much more placid. I would not trust a Pit Bull around my son.

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the OP is looking to place his dog. no need for the usual anti/pro pit bull discussions. please all, stick to the topic. we've had a zillion of these dangerous dog threads, no need for it here.

to BABYALL some more info might help: if neutered, vaccines, behavior with family/cats/dogs would surely help... and just ignore the non relavant comments.

i will say this: be discerning in to whom u give your dog . in thailand as else where in the world, many people are looking for free pitbulls to use in fighting etc, so make sure your dog goes to good people.

not sure about the rules for pit bulls being brought in to europe but u might want to reconsider bringing him with u if u can, i think it will be hard to place him in a good home, and pit bulls need to be with people who know about pit bulls.

good luck

bina

israel

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Yup, the Uk forbids import breeding etc of pitbulls. However, reality tells us that there is still, quite openly on the internet, pitt-pups for sale.

Saw just recently a program called 'Dogs used as weapons'. It was filmed in London. Most of these dogs, not only pitts, were not well-socialized and obedience trained. A very dangerous development.

Then, on an email list I'm member of, several dog trainers in the west wrote that, while the pitt is quite a fashion dog, they hardly ever get pitts in their basic obedience classes. And THAT is alarming, methinks. And that is were the problems start.

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MAN MAN MAN.... i am so <deleted>... tired of people saying: uhuhuhuuu i have to go back home who can take my dog!!!!!!!!And then you not want just give him to somebody,NO YOU WANT TO SELL HIM!!!!AAAAAAA!!!

A dog is not a status symbol or just a thing you can resell if you dont want him anymore...!!!!!!!!

I love AMPt as i also have one and i got my dog 8 years now and brought him from europe 2 years ago,and should i go back i ll take him with me!!PLEASE,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER GET YOURSELF A DOG AGAIN,AS YOU CAN TAKE ABSOLUTLY NO RESPONSIBILITY!

you should have thought about this before and as it is an american PT for sure you didnt rescue him from the street!

I wish good luck!Not to you,but to your dog!

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MAN MAN MAN.... i am so <deleted>... tired of people saying: uhuhuhuuu i have to go back home who can take my dog!!!!!!!!And then you not want just give him to somebody,NO YOU WANT TO SELL HIM!!!!AAAAAAA!!!

A dog is not a status symbol or just a thing you can resell if you dont want him anymore...!!!!!!!!

I love AMPt as i also have one and i got my dog 8 years now and brought him from europe 2 years ago,and should i go back i ll take him with me!!PLEASE,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER GET YOURSELF A DOG AGAIN,AS YOU CAN TAKE ABSOLUTLY NO RESPONSIBILITY!

you should have thought about this before and as it is an american PT for sure you didnt rescue him from the street!

I wish good luck!Not to you,but to your dog!

You can't make conclusions like this when you don't know anything about the history of the op.

It is possible that the op through circumstances has to go back and really can't take the dog. In my work I've have come across desperate dog (and cat) owners who had to make such a decision as their lives suddenly took an unfortunate turn.

A reason for asking a fee can be that one tries to rule out those who just want a full-bred for free, which not necessarily means that the dog gets a good life. Also this I have seen happening. :)

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I knew there would be a negative response to your posting always is when American Pit Bull is mentioned. Bakeman is right but I hope you find a good home for him/her.

Good luck

Sorry i dont think its a negative post, would you take this dog on not knowing its temperment ?. if so go ahead, i love dogs, however with a family it could be inviting a disaster, and i for one wont be taking any chances,. :)
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I knew there would be a negative response to your posting always is when American Pit Bull is mentioned. Bakeman is right but I hope you find a good home for him/her.

Good luck

Is there a difference between 'pit bull', and 'American Pit Bull'?

PitBull,,One type taller the other type shorter..I have 5 of them and they are friendly,2 are given to me coz the owner have no time..I bring them to schools to educate children and parents about dogs..I train them,run with them every single day and speand time with them,If you don't have 1 hour a day to be with your dog,pls don't adopt one..Dogs are not bad, only bad owners...My pets are my family members,if ever i travelle they fly with me...I'm bless to have time to take care or Dogs coz i Have time..I have 4 Birds too,,heheheheh,,2 Cockatoos and 2 Macaw(B&G)...

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because i have to go back to europe soon i must sell my pit bull he is 2 years old and a great house dog.must go to good home, 038 332980

If you will give it to me free,I will accept it..I have 5 PittBulls,3 are 10 yrs old and 2 are 4 yrs old.2 are given to me for the same reason you have.. I have 4 Macaw birds too,I'm bless to have to to take care of dogs and birds and consider them my family my babies(Dogs) sleep in my bed room,hehehehhethat is how I'm crazy about them..I'm a Dog and exotic Bird trainer,and I bring my babies or pets in schools aroung Thailand to educate them about animals and help some othistic children...If you are willing to let me adopt your dog pls contact me at: forum rules do not allow posting private numbers, sites and emails. anyone interested will personal message you (PM).

Mighty Torrent

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Dear Babyall,

It is sad news that you have to leave your Pit Bull behind. I was once a Police dog handler/ trainer in the UK for more than 8 years, and succesfully competed with my Police Dogs in Police Dog competitions. I have owned dogs for almost of my life. I now own 3 Rottweilers, a German Shepherd dog, a Labrador and of course a Pit Bull. Out of all my dogs I trust my Pit Bull the most. He has so much love to offer me and I do not favour any of the dogs. Here in Khon Kaen, many people own Pit Bulls and have a club. They have weight pulling competitions. Such a great day and so beautiful to watch how much the Thais deeply love and care for their Pit Bulls.

May I suggest that you look up on Google of any Pit Bull clubs and offer him for adoption to a family who has experience with such a breed and that you can vet before handing him over. Had I not so many dogs, I would love to adopt him and take him for many walks that we do every morning.

Good Luck with whatever you do.

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because i have to go back to europe soon i must sell my pit bull he is 2 years old and a great house dog.must go to good home, 038 332980

Babyall.

As an American Professional dog trainer with military and law enforcement back ground please take your dog with you. These pets have been involved in thousands of cases of mutilation and even cases of death and in my professional opinion, even though the females are less agressive, these dogs should be euthanized and not be allowed in Thailand.

Sorry, for I realize a pet is a family member.

I have had to write something here, due to small minded people leaving small minded comments as above, if you really train dogs and say that you were involved in the military then surely you would be praising these dogs, secondly you should know that a dog is only as bad as its owner, you can not single out any bread by saying that they are a dangerous dog and making such bold statements as you have.

I have a pitbull and know several people that also have them, they are a very loving and loyal dogs, I have kids that the dogs play with and not once has it even been nasty towards either of them, The dog gets poked and pulled and not once has it reacted, however if they did this to a toy dog i would guarantee that would bite.

Pitbulls have a fantastic nature and why do they call it the nanny dog? Why dont you take time to read all the positive things they have done rather than singlingout bad owners. You do not get bad dogs. Unfortunantly it is people like you that give these dogs a bad name, also a little fact for you, The uk have banded pitbulls and other so called dangerous dogs, since then they have had more attacks by dogs than any other year, how does that work? and also do you know what dog bites more peope than any other????

Next time you make such bold and rash comments please take a bit of time to actually think what you are saying.

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because i have to go back to europe soon i must sell my pit bull he is 2 years old and a great house dog.must go to good home, 038 332980

Babyall.

As an American Professional dog trainer with military and law enforcement back ground please take your dog with you. These pets have been involved in thousands of cases of mutilation and even cases of death and in my professional opinion, even though the females are less agressive, these dogs should be euthanized and not be allowed in Thailand.

Sorry, for I realize a pet is a family member.

I have had to write something here, due to small minded people leaving small minded comments as above, if you really train dogs and say that you were involved in the military then surely you would be praising these dogs, secondly you should know that a dog is only as bad as its owner, you can not single out any bread by saying that they are a dangerous dog and making such bold statements as you have.

I have a pitbull and know several people that also have them, they are a very loving and loyal dogs, I have kids that the dogs play with and not once has it even been nasty towards either of them, The dog gets poked and pulled and not once has it reacted, however if they did this to a toy dog i would guarantee that would bite.

Pitbulls have a fantastic nature and why do they call it the nanny dog? Why dont you take time to read all the positive things they have done rather than singlingout bad owners. You do not get bad dogs. Unfortunantly it is people like you that give these dogs a bad name, also a little fact for you, The uk have banded pitbulls and other so called dangerous dogs, since then they have had more attacks by dogs than any other year, how does that work? and also do you know what dog bites more peope than any other????

Next time you make such bold and rash comments please take a bit of time to actually think what you are saying.

Well said, great post and 100% agreed :)

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because i have to go back to europe soon i must sell my pit bull he is 2 years old and a great house dog.must go to good home, 038 332980

Babyall.

As an American Professional dog trainer with military and law enforcement back ground please take your dog with you. These pets have been involved in thousands of cases of mutilation and even cases of death and in my professional opinion, even though the females are less agressive, these dogs should be euthanized and not be allowed in Thailand.

Sorry, for I realize a pet is a family member.

I have had to write something here, due to small minded people leaving small minded comments as above, if you really train dogs and say that you were involved in the military then surely you would be praising these dogs, secondly you should know that a dog is only as bad as its owner, you can not single out any bread by saying that they are a dangerous dog and making such bold statements as you have.

I have a pitbull and know several people that also have them, they are a very loving and loyal dogs, I have kids that the dogs play with and not once has it even been nasty towards either of them, The dog gets poked and pulled and not once has it reacted, however if they did this to a toy dog i would guarantee that would bite.

Pitbulls have a fantastic nature and why do they call it the nanny dog? Why dont you take time to read all the positive things they have done rather than singlingout bad owners. You do not get bad dogs. Unfortunantly it is people like you that give these dogs a bad name, also a little fact for you, The uk have banded pitbulls and other so called dangerous dogs, since then they have had more attacks by dogs than any other year, how does that work? and also do you know what dog bites more peope than any other????

Next time you make such bold and rash comments please take a bit of time to actually think what you are saying.

Well said, great post and 100% agreed :)

I dont"t think so sorry

APBT's were bred to be fighting dogs from a combination of other bull terriers, an english one I which have rescused from a thai family, with their perrmissin I should add.

They are banned in many countries quite simpley because they have a tendancy to be rarther nasty, ok if i get a tiger cub and raise it by hand it maybe will be quite friendly but at the end of the day it has the potential to eat me, the same can be said regarding pit bulls.

I am a english bull terrier owner but I never forget the potential of the dog, it's a very powerful animal and extreamly loyal, if I had to up and leave then for me there would be only two options, take him with me or a one way ticket to the vet.

I do know people who can facilite exporting the dog to your destination wherever that may be.

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English bull terriers and staffys are great dogs my family have owned both they're great with kids too, and are a different animal from Pit bulls they should not be confused as being the same.

Best of luck with re-homing him hope he gets a nice loving home.

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I dont"t think so sorry

APBT's were bred to be fighting dogs from a combination of other bull terriers, an english one I which have rescused from a thai family, with their perrmissin I should add.

They are banned in many countries quite simpley because they have a tendancy to be rarther nasty, ok if i get a tiger cub and raise it by hand it maybe will be quite friendly but at the end of the day it has the potential to eat me, the same can be said regarding pit bulls.

I am a english bull terrier owner but I never forget the potential of the dog, it's a very powerful animal and extreamly loyal, if I had to up and leave then for me there would be only two options, take him with me or a one way ticket to the vet.

I do know people who can facilite exporting the dog to your destination wherever that may be.

Yes!!APBT were bred to be fighting dogs that fight against other animals,but the big part of the story that you miss here or just ignore like so many other specialists: DOG FIGHTING back then was a thing that poor farmers used to do and after the fight the dogs lived IN THEIR HOUSE AND WERE A TOY FOR THE KIDS AS THEY NEVER GET AGRESSIVE AGAINST HUMAN BEINGS!

This dog is only dangerous in the wrong hands and with your attitude iam not sure if your dog is in the right hands ether!!

ONE WAY TICKET TO THE VET!!!I get sick when i have to read bulls... like this and then you really think this is how responsible people have to act...OH MY GOD!!!

Please start reading statistcs and you will soon discover that there are so many other breeds that cause more accidents(also deadly) then any APBT and these are so called family dogs...

A APBT is a great family dog!

I mean if someone compares a tiger with a dog...hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!...MAN YOU CANT BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS!!!!

PEACE!

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bkk,

please no need to shout. i said i would close the thread if it turns in to a pro/con pit bull thread. we have enough of these. the person was looking fo r ahome for his dog.

since he hasnt posted in a while, i will close this thread; if the OP is here, then he can pm me if he is still looking for a home for his dog.

to all those that tried to find solutions for him, thank you.

everyone loves his/her personal breed/s and we all know that any breed of dog is still a dog and a dog has canines and pack instincts and we all agree that certain breeds if in the wrong hands can be problematic. we also mostly agree that certain breeds should only be adopted /sold to appropriate families. the OP hasnt given follow up so

subject closed. :)

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