Fine For Late 90 Day Reporting By Proxy

[sniffdog]

If I am not mistaken, you can allow a third party to do your 90 days reporting by proxy in writing.

Does anyone know the fine of 2,000 baht for late reporting can be paid by that same person?

Thanks for your replies.

[scott_cos]

If I am not mistaken, you can allow a third party to do your 90 days reporting by proxy in writing.

Does anyone know the fine of 2,000 baht for late reporting can be paid by that same person?

Thanks for your replies.

Once you miss your date you must appear in person and sign some documents and pay the fine. Its not the fine paying that is the big deal, it is the "apology" to the police that must be signed in person before the clerk (who doesn't give a shit anyway).

I did have an interesting situation recently, missed my 90 day reporting date but since about a month later was going out of the country (on multi-entry visa) decided to wait and see if they asked for payment at the Airport. If they did, no problem I would pay the 2,000 Baht (price does not go up). If they did not - well..... They did not say a thing and I was pretty happy about that.

[sniffdog]

I am in a similar position. I will leave for a holiday to my home country on the 25th.

Is it worth to report first or would one risk being refused to leave.

Any thoughts?

[thaiphoon]

When you leave the country the second part of Form TM6 will be removed from your passport. Immigration will therefore know that you are not in the country. When you return your 90 day count starts again, the day of entry being Day 1. Immigration use the portion of TM6 they keep on arrival as the effective reporting document.

[Tod Daniels]

I took a friend's passport and 90 day reporting form when I did my 90 day report, and got it back without problem (although neither of us were over our report by date. I think the report in person thing; if even a rule, is NOT enforced at all.

I also routinely see the "runner" from Bumrungrad Hospital showing up at the 90 day reporting counter at Suan Plu with literally a PILE of passports. I know they offer a "report-4-u" service for about 200 baht; although it takes several days to get your passport back from the hospital. Until they have enough to make sending their "runner" profitable for them, they don't go down to Immigrations.

There are several posts on this forum which stated people are fined the ‘usual’ 2000baht. There is even one post of someone who'd never reported for over 10 years, and he too was fined just 2000baht, although admonished for his lack of reporting.

With that being said; the mood of the person you're dealing with, (which can vary greatly depending on the stupidity of previous foreign customers) can come into play at times. They could follow the 'letter of the law', and fine you what is actually quoted in the rule.

[astral]

I never keep the slip in my passport,

just separate in case they are asked for.

[stbkk]

I never keep the slip in my passport,

just separate in case they are asked for.

I've just got my passport back from the company agent, who always do the whole 90 day reporting thing for me (and the handful of other farangs in the company).

I did do it a couple of times in person just to see what happened, and it took me less than 30 minutes both times, so no big deal. I happen to work near Suan Plu, though.

[Pib]

I took a friend's passport and 90 day reporting form when I did my 90 day report, and got it back without problem (although neither of us were over our report by date. I think the report in person thing; if even a rule, is NOT enforced at all.

I also routinely see the "runner" from Bumrungrad Hospital showing up at the 90 day reporting counter at Suan Plu with literally a PILE of passports. I know they offer a "report-4-u" service for about 200 baht; although it takes several days to get your passport back from the hospital. Until they have enough to make sending their "runner" profitable for them, they don't go down to Immigrations.

There are several posts on this forum which stated people are fined the 'usual' 2000baht. There is even one post of someone who'd never reported for over 10 years, and he too was fined just 2000baht, although admonished for his lack of reporting.

With that being said; the mood of the person you're dealing with, (which can vary greatly depending on the stupidity of previous foreign customers) can come into play at times. They could follow the 'letter of the law', and fine you what is actually quoted in the rule.

Yea, whenever I'm doing my in-person 90-day reporting at Suam Plu I always seen runners/people handling over a hand-full (at least a half dozen...sometimes closer to a dozen) of passports & TM-47's to the reporting official. And in about 15-30 minutes the same hand-full of passports with approved bottom portions of TM-47's are handed back to the runner that turned them in.

[Prajak]

I have scanned all passport pages and the entry card into my computer. Have hardcopies too. It's not the entrycard they need, just the numbers and stamps on it. So with visa. If you can not scan, try a copy shop. I pay 50 satang for a b/w copy.....

[Dah fahrang]

Once you miss your date you must appear in person and sign some documents and pay the fine. Its not the fine paying that is the big deal, it is the "apology" to the police that must be signed in person before the clerk (who doesn't give a shit anyway).

I did have an interesting situation recently, missed my 90 day reporting date but since about a month later was going out of the country (on multi-entry visa) decided to wait and see if they asked for payment at the Airport. If they did, no problem I would pay the 2,000 Baht (price does not go up). If they did not - well..... They did not say a thing and I was pretty happy about that.

Immigration at the airport never seem to check 90 day reporting. It seems they have no interest (or responsibility) for checking this trivia. I have waved the 90 day reporting receipt at them: they look bemused. They only want to verify you are leaving within the period of visa validity, otherwise will collect an overstay fine.

However

depending on where you do your 90 day report, when you next visit your 'friendly' local Immigration office to make your next 90 day report, they possibly will check for the previous reporting. They may look in your passport and count - retrospectively - how many days your exit date out of the country was after your scheduled 90 day reporting date. If your exit stamp shows you left a month past the scheduled 90 day reporting date - standby to possibly part with B2,000, get a talking to, and sign the apology sheet.

My local office (Kanchanaburi) seem to count the days between last reporting date and exit Thailand date as a matter of routine.

[thaiphoon]

But if you did leave the country without doing 90 days reporting, the next due reporting date would be day of re-entry +89. So what would local immigration check back to? The last 'report' would be your TM6 form retained by immigration when you re-entered the country, and that would show you in the clear?

[Dah fahrang]

But if you did leave the country without doing 90 days reporting, the next due reporting date would be day of re-entry +89. So what would local immigration check back to? The last 'report' would be your TM6 form retained by immigration when you re-entered the country, and that would show you in the clear?

Their own records.

Every 'client' using Kanch. as their local office has a unique record' number, which is handwritten written onto every new, blank TM47 90 day report sheet, issued in exchange for the 'client' surrendering the bottom half of their previous TM47 90 day report receipt.

The number corresponds to a big ledger on their desk. Each visit - 90 day, visa extension, whatever and the ledger is opened, your record checked.

Hey presto. your last 90 reporting date is revealed.

Whilst waiting visa extension and re-entry permit to be processed, I've seen them nab 'clients' who failed to make a 90 day report, left the country many days later, only to return to Immigration @ Kanch. to make a subsequent 'day of arrival +89 day' report.

I'm in the same position - I will leave the country in September, 8 days after my 90 day report is due. Had I not seen it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears, I would have not bothered reporting, left the country, and made a day of arrival +89, day report (around end of December).

I know now never to try this at Kanchanaburi! I will make the report, then leave the country.

Possibly 90 reporting to another Immigration office might circumvent the issue - but as Kanchanaburi accept postal reports, for the sake of an EMS letter and 10 baht stamp for return, and my continued good rapport with the Immigration Officers there, I ain't a gonna do that.

Smart Immigration Officers? Positively.

Making a few thousand baht in fines? Likely.

Trying? Certainly.

Other offices doing likewise? Unknown.

Shape of the future? Possibly. (I'm sure one day the ledger will become electronic, but at the moment, its a hefty blue book).

[thaiphoon]

Have never heard of this before, but agree that it causes more grief if you get caught breaking the rules than break the rules than adhering to them.

Smart Immigration Officers? Now the country is moving forwards