Chaiyasit Expresses Support For Coup

[webfact]

Chaiyasit expresses support for coup

Former supreme commander Chaiyasit Shinawatra Saturday expressed support for another coup.

He was asked by reporters to comment on speculations that a new coup might be staged if the red-shirt people turn violent again during the rally on September 19, the third anniversary of the last coup.

"I agree with a coup if it can improve Thailand but it must be able to renew politics and end conflicts in the country and create a right path for the country," Chaiyasit said.

-- The Nation 2009/09/12

[ThNiner]

Shinawatra family, the true bastion of democracy.

[mca]

So hopefully the above 2 posters were against the coup that overthrew Thaksin then.

[ThNiner]

So hopefully the above 2 posters were against the coup that overthrew Thaksin then.

I never said I am for or against the coup. But the thing is I'm not duping the masses to believe that I'm the champion of democracy while my actions are otherwise either.

[KevinBloodyWilson]

So hopefully the above 2 posters were against the coup that overthrew Thaksin then.

I never said I am for or against the coup. But the thing is I'm not duping the masses to believe that I'm the champion of democracy while my actions are otherwise either.

I fully agree. He won't be able to maintain the pretence much longer, people are seeing through him and Suthep already. He won't be duping people for very much longer.

[jasreeve17]

Some naive posts...

Any, ANY senior army official talking support of an army coup should be immediately stripped of his rank, tried, prosecuted and locked up.

[Geckos]

Some naive posts...

Any, ANY senior army official talking support of an army coup should be immediately stripped of his rank, tried, prosecuted and locked up.

Your rite naive post....

This is Thailand that would NEVER HAPPEN HERE !!!!!

[KevinBloodyWilson]

Coups are bad but if thats the only way to kick out dictator like ________ then I'm all for it !!

Interesting. Coups are bad unless you agree with them?

[johnnort]

Coup? No coup? Government? No government? There is no discussion in this topic. Corruption needs to cease across the board and no matter who is in power, this subject will never be addressed. Thailand is in a quagmire.

[KevinBloodyWilson]

Some naive posts...

Any, ANY senior army official talking support of an army coup should be immediately stripped of his rank, tried, prosecuted and locked up.

Fully agree. The army in Thailand has forgotten its place and learned to over-step its legitimate role and importance. Generals who launch coups or disobey lawful instructions from the government of the day should be dishonourably discharged and subjected to a careful audit of their assets while they serve their 25 year jail term for treason.

[animatic]

Some naive posts...

Any, ANY senior army official talking support of an army coup should be immediately stripped of his rank, tried, prosecuted and locked up.

Sadly the old prat is a FORMER Supreme Commander.

Maybe retract his pension.... And future access to his former title too,

that's a nice fat face slap for sure.

This is either;

a ) basically telling the Thaksin factions in the army the time maybe near.

b ) hoping to make the opposition nervous and more likely to make a mistake.

Either way a despicable act most anywhere, even Thailand.

Please rewire your translator, we have agreed 3 times in one week.

The sky has fallen, and hit me, and my head hurts.

[frodo]

Chaiyasit expresses support for coup

Former supreme commander Chaiyasit Shinawatra Saturday expressed support for another coup.

He was asked by reporters to comment on speculations that a new coup might be staged if the red-shirt people turn violent again during the rally on September 19, the third anniversary of the last coup.

"I agree with a coup if it can improve Thailand but it must be able to renew politics and end conflicts in the country and create a right path for the country," Chaiyasit said.

-- The Nation 2009/09/12

I have to agree with jasreeve17 on his earlier post. I would also have to add the the so called lovers and champions of democracy, AKA, UDD leaders also be held 100% accountable for their actions as well if the red-shirts turn violent. This is not about democracy anymore especially when Chaiyasit and Jatuporn are both speaking of a coup brought on by UDD violence.

I do doubt that a coup will take place, however. Normally, people don't advertise a week in advance for a coup.

[a99az]

Chaiyasit expresses support for coup

Former supreme commander Chaiyasit Shinawatra Saturday expressed support for another coup.

He was asked by reporters to comment on speculations that a new coup might be staged if the red-shirt people turn violent again during the rally on September 19, the third anniversary of the last coup.

"I agree with a coup if it can improve Thailand but it must be able to renew politics and end conflicts in the country and create a right path for the country," Chaiyasit said.

-- The Nation 2009/09/12

I hope the next time there is a coupe the leaders of the coupe are arrested and charged in the court. Why should a few be allowed to pervert Thailand’s duly elected government and get away with it?

[toptuan]

Backing up their actions, 70 years and 18 coups later, the Thai military becomes openly direct about their own role in the country's politics.

IMHO, so great to have the all-wise "gods" above the law and democracy itself to set the voters straight when they err in their choices. I wince every time the USA ("champion of democracy") carries out annual joint exercises with this defiantly anti-democratic segment of Thai society.

"Former army chief Chaisit Shinawatra said on Saturday that he would support another military coup if it can help the country get out of political crisis.

“The coup-makers must settle social division, create the right path for the country and return power to the people as soon as possible”, Gen Chaisit said."

The Bangkok Post 12/09/2009 at 11:43 AM

What he was thinking: "...return power to the pro-elite people who help keep us in the position of ultimate power..."

Edited September 12, 2009 by toptuan

[toptuan]

Normally, people don't advertise a week in advance for a coup.

How soon we forget.

In Thailand the military DOES advertise in advance for their coups.

However, it's via reverse psychology: "We assure the nation, there WON'T be a coup!" (August, 2006)

[hammered]

Power play. It needs some out of control events to encourage the military to possibly consider taking over if the situation appears out of control and the government weak. September 19 is looking like its going to be a time of heightened tensions.

The main problems with the idea are that:

The military dont want to run the country imho as last time it was a disaster and they are aware of this

The military are probably happy to have feuding polticians all divided and leaving the army out of the limelight and powerful

Not all of the red shirts may agree with Chaiyasits idea

Calling for a coup kind of short circuits and undermines the petition

The military probably isnt stuffed with Thaksin supporters anyore.

Interesting ploy and one which will begin to telgraph events if things like calling for the police to stay on the sidelines or join the demo happen etc

[TAWP]

Coups are always bad.

Sometimes one has to aim for the lesser evil.

[ThNiner]

Backing up their actions, 70 years and 18 coups later, the Thai military becomes openly direct about their own role in the country's politics.

IMHO, so great to have the all-wise "gods" above the law and democracy itself to set the voters straight when they err in their choices. I wince every time the USA ("champion of democracy") carries out annual joint exercises with this defiantly anti-democratic segment of Thai society.

"Former army chief Chaisit Shinawatra said on Saturday that he would support another military coup if it can help the country get out of political crisis.

“The coup-makers must settle social division, create the right path for the country and return power to the people as soon as possible”, Gen Chaisit said."

The Bangkok Post 12/09/2009 at 11:43 AM

What he was thinking: "...return power to the pro-elite people who help keep us in the position of ultimate power..."

You are aware that it's general Chaisit Shinawatra speaking right?

You are also aware that Thanksin's last name is Shinawatra... right?

[hammered]

It is also hard to imagine the red side really supporting a coup when their position is against them.

It is also doubtful if the international community will also be so quiet if another one occurs.

It will take utter chaos for one to occur unless it is of the silent kind but that would likleluy just be Abhisit resigning for A.N.Other

[spongeman]

It is also hard to imagine the red side really supporting a coup when their position is against them.

It is also doubtful if the international community will also be so quiet if another one occurs.

It will take utter chaos for one to occur unless it is of the silent kind but that would likleluy just be Abhisit resigning for A.N.Other

The army must be on a commission for every coup they have ?

[baht&sold]

A red-riot in Bkk (and across the N/NE this time;) would spawn a re-coup attempt. But it likely wouldn't feature tourists taking photos with smiling soldiers, or teenage girls placing flowers on tanks like in 2006... Unfortunately, this time around there is high potential for Thaksin-friendly police and military factions to join in an uprising.

The 'fear' of Thailand enjoying increased economic upswings along with enjoying even a modest high season must be pressing now. This would be 'disastrous' for Mr Thaksin & Co... But hey, it's easily preventable, just create yet another chaos and PRESTO - goodbye tourists, goodbye high season, goodbye economic recovery ('problem' solved). Following the insanity of Yellow airport closures and Red-riots, another Songkran type upheaval splashed all over world news headlines would absolutely bury Thailand. Yet, this appears to be the 'plan' (which some here might actually welcome...)

Here's hoping Thailand is instead 'permitted' to enjoy a 'spate' of stability, along with even a modest high season and a return to economic growth (but don't count on it, unfortunately).

[RKASA]

coup  - improvement      oxymoron      Someone give that man a history book.   Amazing Thailand, I think there must be something in the water.

[hammered]

A red-riot in Bkk (and across the N/NE this time;) would spawn a re-coup attempt. But it likely wouldn't feature tourists taking photos with smiling soldiers, or teenage girls placing flowers on tanks like in 2006... Unfortunately, this time around there is high potential for Thaksin-friendly police and military factions to join in an uprising.

The 'fear' of Thailand enjoying increased economic upswings along with enjoying even a modest high season must be pressing now. This would be 'disastrous' for Mr Thaksin & Co... But hey, it's easily preventable, just create yet another chaos and PRESTO - goodbye tourists, goodbye high season, goodbye economic recovery ('problem' solved). Following the insanity of Yellow airport closures and Red-riots, another Songkran type upheaval splashed all over world news headlines would absolutely bury Thailand. Yet, this appears to be the 'plan' (which some here might actually welcome...)

Here's hoping Thailand is instead 'permitted' to enjoy a 'spate' of stability, along with even a modest high season and a return to economic growth (but don't count on it, unfortunately).

I think if that was going to happen it would have happened around Songkhran. While Thaksin has suppor tin the polcie he just doesnt in the military it seems. That isnt to say a coup could be pulled by those who then do a deal with Thaksin. That however, would likely be more on their terms than his. At this point though a coup by those not that close to him would stil be a potential game changer and hence better than the status quo in which he is not making headway or at least not quickly enough.

Even if a coup brought in those who were harder on him than those in power now, it would still change the game with international condemnation and a bigger new alliance against the coup which could even involve the PAD.

What Thaksin wants to avoid is the status quo with the months and cases ticking by, the whol ebureacracy further deThaksined and the economy picking up and his allies maybe getting nervous and the potantial for bigger splits in the red alliance and the expenses just going up and up and up as the government budget starts to be disbursed. Realpolitik

all imho

[fino]

I have lived for seven years in Thailand and then moved one year ago to cambodia. // deleted //

The only difference between burma and thailand is the infrastuctures.

Thailand looks like a modern country , but the society is like the one we had in europe in the 14th century.

This situation will explode sooner or later, and they can forget their iréalistic tourist targets

They want to be recognize as a modern state but it's only a mediéval state , and now all the well marketed picture as disapear.

Edited September 12, 2009 by webfact
do not post extremely negative views of Thailand

[TAWP]

Well, while a red-tinted poster scoughed, and I agree, that a military coup != progress or improvements for a country in general (should probably more be seen as a reboot of the political scene). We have to remember who it is that said this and WHO that wants Thailand to be in a complete disarray until he magically can come back to save the country from the problems...

[animatic]

Chaiyasit expresses support for coup

Former supreme commander Chaiyasit Shinawatra Saturday expressed support for another coup.....

-- The Nation 2009/09/12

.....I do doubt that a coup will take place, however. Normally, people don't advertise a week in advance for a coup.

Only if they are stupid as a butt plug...

This guy may get the nomination for banned sex toy of the week.

Edited September 12, 2009 by animatic

[RKASA]

Along with a history book for Chaiyasit may I also suggest some reading of   How interviews go and what not to say.     

[RKASA]

Well, while a red-tinted poster scoughed, and I agree, that a military coup != progress or improvements for a country in general (should probably more be seen as a reboot of the political scene). We have to remember who it is that said this and WHO that wants Thailand to be in a complete disarray until he magically can come back to save the country from the problems...

So its OK?  "(should probably more be seen as a reboot of the political scene)"  most countries still use an election for that.

[Chunkton]

I think there should be an anti-Taksin, anti-red, pro-military coup uniform for TV members. Just a suggestion, but perhaps a nice black uniform with jackboots, and how about a stylish silver skull for the hat? You could all then march in protest right next to to the reds next week whilst urging the army to stage another coup.

Come on, don't be anonymous here belaboring us and wasting bandwidth with your inane hate posts, take your anti-red rhetoric out on the streets where it belongs. Give your tired fingers a rest and start goose stepping in style and show those stupid village hicks what they are really up against. A couple of names immediately come to mind to lead the parade.

[Scott]

I didn't agree with the first coup. I certainly don't agree with a second one. Two wrongs don't make a right.

It is time that the country mature to the level where the political problems are solved through civil actions.