webfact Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) Any statement available from the BiB.... ? would love to read that Edited September 15, 2009 by webfact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusty Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Land of Sallops... no that won't beat Amazing ThailandLand of Irma La Douce... too french. This is a positive step, what you can't stomp out, better to regulate. Better for public health reasons and for the workers. Taxes on the bosses, but not a lifetime prostitute label for the worker. No doubt they can still tell mom and pop they work in a spa. No doubt mom has guessed anyway. The companies will come up with nicer sounding names as tax entities, but this is not going to stop the business, better to remove some graft and make health maintainence and social services are provided. Puritan's will always whine and moan and it has STOPPED NOTHING. For me this is not about public morals, but about public health and safety. A CRACKDOWN is the only way to close the door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seri thai Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) Isn't it obvious why they want to legalize it? It's because they want tax revenue from it.I simply cannot support these plans to regulate vice. Why would you even want to? When Prohibition is doing such a great job at controlling it. I think if you regulate the industry, that will result in people actually coming to Thailand purely for the sex industry! Well IMHO (Why do I bother??) In a nutshell the official arguments are: Legalisation would undermine the "morality" of the Nation (according to its moral guardians) Legalisation and taxation would undermine the revenue of said moral guardians "plus ca change, plus ca meme chose" Same applies to gambling, drugs and any other vice you care to mention Who watches the Watchmen? (Yawn) 1277 users are reading this topic Edited September 15, 2009 by seri thai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianni77 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I simply cannot support these plans to regulate vice. Why would you even want to? When Prohibition is doing such a great job at controlling it. I think if you regulate the industry, that will result in people actually coming to Thailand purely for the sex industry! Scooter dude, where have you been? don't you know that around the world they sell "sex tours" to Thailand? Vice? even though I've never used the services of a prostitute I can see it as a necessity not vice. I can understand a guy that doesn't want the burden of a relationship but wants to get laid from time to time... Regulated, not regulated... it doesn't matter it won't stop. But if this brings some benefits to some women I think it should be welcome. Have a nice day everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHamon Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 It's Legal in Australia, Germany, Holland and many other developed countries. So why not? It's not legal in all states of Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsesxix Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Long overdue.Thailand has arguably more sex workers than any other country, yet they have no rights and are exploited by the Police, traffickers etc. The sex industry in Thailand is the main reason why so many foreigners choose to visit Thailand regularly and why many end up living here. (whether they like to admit to it or not) It's Legal in Australia, Germany, Holland and many other developed countries. So why not? I'm not sure that I would make that argument, and it would certainly would not be true per capita, but yes there is an extremely high number of sex workers here. However, the majority of the sex trade is Thai/ Thai, not foreigner/Thai. I doubt this will come to fruition, but if it did it would affect the Thai/ Thai side. It is a bit disturbing to me that anytime I read news where the government is attempting to take a measurable step forward, it is met with bitching and whining from foreigners who proclaim it to be the end of Thailand as we know it and so on. However, when an Isaan MP with a woody moves to legalise prostitution, the posters here are all on board. It's not like you can't get it already!! Maybe its just me, i dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefro Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I the last line best. "Campaigns among men to deter them from buying sex from women should help - if there are no buyers, there won't be sellers," she said. " Come on men lets start a campaign against mongering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhut Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) What's next? Maybe they can deliver the newly legalized prostitutes on the back of a motorcycle as if it were McDonalds, Burger King, or Pizza Company. The prostitute would show up to your door in a lavender uni with little white boots while the motorcycle driver has you pay and sign a paper. He would then come back to pick her up at a specified time. Yeah, nothing like regulation of the sex industry as Thailand attempts to market by making it more commercial and available for paying customers. If this happens, might as well place a black silhoutte of a dancer on the Thai flag. Edited September 15, 2009 by ironhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontheturner Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 This is the best ,,CRACKDOWN,, I have ever seen in Thailand. Sems like they are on the right track I think you meant to say ''on the right crack'' ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakman Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Congratulations! I am all for it. Legalize it and tax it to increase services for all.Too bad this couldn't be done in the U.S.A., along with legalizing cannabis, as ways to lower the current record deficit. Otherwise, future generations of workers will be over burdened in providing Social Security, etc. to retirees, etc. Legal in most of Nevada via brothels, legal in Rhode Island (sex for money o.k. but no brothels allowed). Cheers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesche Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I call this "progress" ! It is high time to recognize and admit what has always been denied! Specially considering, that "prostitution" here is NOT the same as prostitution in the West... Most of the women working in this Trade are freelancers coming from poor families, often with very low education. They deserve protection and integration into the system, health- social-security, education (STD etc.), fight against drug and underground abuse. Yes I call this a step forward. Sadly, as mentioned already by other fellow members, it might be a very long process... Until forgotten... I think this is a serious topic and I find the "dick-oriented" remarks 'Hub of prostitution etc." really silly as IT IS NOT TRUE that most tourists come here for sex-tourism! This stigma was brought by the GI's during their R&R long time ago! So it is time to step forward... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaGladiator Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 When rules are enforced in Thailand... You must wear helmet - means don't wear one cos we want to catch you now and then and collect money from you. All prostitutes must be reg'd with licence (probably very exp.) - means don't cos when we catch you we can put some money in our back pocket. All premises must be licenced + meet reg's/standards - means don't cos we'll invade once in a blue-moon and sting you, every punter, and every worker for not meeting our criteria. Legalize prostitution - They can't legitimize a piss-up in a brewery (literally), road use, or education, why would they want another problem on their hands - to make money. The girls would not be safer at the moment they're left alone, by regulating - the BIB have just-cause to approach/apprehend/fine, and they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus221 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Long overdue.Thailand has arguably more sex workers than any other country, yet they have no rights and are exploited by the Police, traffickers etc. The sex industry in Thailand is the main reason why so many foreigners choose to visit Thailand regularly and why many end up living here. (whether they like to admit to it or not) It's Legal in Australia, Germany, Holland and many other developed countries. So why not? If it is legal in so many other countries why would they come to Thailand because of prostitutes. They can stay home if they like and use their own countries services. It is more I think than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Kindly be reminded to read the Thai Visa Forum Rule which is quoted here in part only #18) Not to discuss the specifics of prostitution. .... acknowledgment of that fact is not forbidden. Thanks for your cooperation WF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHINWA Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Isn't it obvious why they want to legalize it? It's because they want tax revenue from it.I simply cannot support these plans to regulate vice. Why would you even want to? When Prohibition is doing such a great job at controlling it. I think if you regulate the industry, that will result in people actually coming to Thailand purely for the sex industry! Well IMHO (Why do I bother??) In a nutshell the official arguments are: Legalisation would undermine the "morality" of the Nation (according to its moral guardians) Legalisation and taxation would undermine the revenue of said moral guardians "plus ca change, plus ca meme chose" Same applies to gambling, drugs and any other vice you care to mention Who watches the Watchmen? (Yawn) Drugs and gambling are vices sex is physiologic necessity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadeeken Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I can't help but wonder if they regulate prostitution if it will turn out like regulating liquor sales.............. You cant buy any between 2pm and 5pm ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosompoi Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 They regulate rice already now the government wants to get involved in regulating vice including a proper tax revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaipapajim Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 What's next?Maybe they can deliver the newly legalized prostitutes on the back of a motorcycle as if it were McDonalds, Burger King, or Pizza Company. The prostitute would show up to your door in a lavender uni with little white boots while the motorcycle driver has you pay and sign a paper. He would then come back to pick her up at a specified time. And if she's not "hot" or delivered within 30 minutes do we get it free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seri thai Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Isn't it obvious why they want to legalize it? It's because they want tax revenue from it.I simply cannot support these plans to regulate vice. Why would you even want to? When Prohibition is doing such a great job at controlling it. I think if you regulate the industry, that will result in people actually coming to Thailand purely for the sex industry! Well IMHO (Why do I bother??) In a nutshell the official arguments are: Legalisation would undermine the "morality" of the Nation (according to its moral guardians) Legalisation and taxation would undermine the revenue of said moral guardians "plus ca change, plus ca meme chose" Same applies to gambling, drugs and any other vice you care to mention Who watches the Watchmen? (Yawn) Drugs and gambling are vices sex is physiologic necessity Tell that to the Sangha! and I'd suggest that paying for it is not a physiological necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaipapajim Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I the last line best."Campaigns among men to deter them from buying sex from women should help - if there are no buyers, there won't be sellers," she said. " So all the Ladyboy lovers will be ok then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus221 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) The nice thing about meeting young women in Pattaya and Bangkok is that when they are available, they don't feel stigmatized or like social rejects for offering you their services or putting on their shows. They are just entertainers or companions. I think this approach works best. They have dignity which often results in permanent coupling with their companions. The country should not acknowledge or label their services prostitution. This label will do more to hurt their self esteem and futures than any current set up. Contrast to US women who frequently sell themselves to upscale, promising men; theses "johns" usually face financial ruin somewhere down the road when the arrangement they make winds up in court under the heading of divorce. Edited September 15, 2009 by george Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotbeve Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Congratulations! I am all for it. Legalize it and tax it to increase services for all.Too bad this couldn't be done in the U.S.A., along with legalizing cannabis, as ways to lower the current record deficit. Otherwise, future generations of workers will be over burdened in providing Social Security, etc. to retirees, etc. Good post Lance... but don't hold your breath waiting for Social Security. Been in the red too long and will eventually be too broke (or borrowed from) to pay the pensioners... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3tsw Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Can I be first with:"The hub of prostitution" beat me to it, ok i'll add opening the stable door after the horse has bolted. Who's going to add another n..... .. ... co......for Th..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianni77 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 What's next?Maybe they can deliver the newly legalized prostitutes on the back of a motorcycle as if it were McDonalds, Burger King, or Pizza Company. The prostitute would show up to your door in a lavender uni with little white boots while the motorcycle driver has you pay and sign a paper. He would then come back to pick her up at a specified time. And if she's not "hot" or delivered within 30 minutes do we get it free? Service minded, huh?.... hahahaha Very good one, but I'm not sure this would be something I'd like someone else to warm up for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsiaCheese Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Another nail in the coffin.Oh. Hang on. Wrong thread. Sorry. Yep, an no crackdown either today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaGladiator Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 The sex trade is very safe here because it is not underground, it's very much out in the open, and workers are allowed to apply their trade in front of whoever, this is why it works here and doesn't need to be legalised. In other countries where we do a good job at enforcing laws, it pushes the trade into the far dark corners of the cities and this is dangerous, hence murders/drug dealing/abuse, pimping, all go hand-in-hand. When was the last time you saw a bar girl here sporting a black eye, or needle marks up her arms, and horror stories of hopw her pimp forces her to work, YOU DON'T DO YOU? Make it legal, means pay high taxes whether legit or back-pocket, this will cause many to start hiding their trade, it will go underground, the pimps (probably BIB) will come out of the wood work and start selling illegal licences/ protection money, the cost will go up, girls will sport black-eyes, and years down the line will all have horror stories to tell. Legalise it yes - It happens and we're not going to stop it (pretty much how it is now) - but the gov. shouldn't try and make money out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteryeah Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I would absolutely LOVE to see an an increase in price due to VAT and service charge on prostitution... then i would buy a big bowl of popcorn before i return to this topic hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewsta Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Apparently we've been shuffling across this planet for approx 40,000 years on land...... Adam meets Eve....... etc Eve gets p**sed off & Adam looks for Eve 2...... etc Regulation vs Prohibition....... irrelevant and redundant issue to try to amend Human Nature......etc Rgdz from CMai, etc, Brewsta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I'd like to see the prices regulated, the older I get the more expensive it becomes ...........and the longer it takes! seems fair to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernie66 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) Is there actually a politician in the world that realizes criminalization is not a substitute for complete control? I think hel_l just froze over. If this becomes a trend they will have the devil himself rethinking his investment portfolio. Edited September 15, 2009 by bernie66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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