deejah Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 is anyone familiar with purchasing this here? what is the best brand for quality available? where can i find it? where is the best palce to purchase it? anything else i should aware of buying pregnenolone in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 It is not approved for use or sale in Thailand and I have never seen it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 If you are refering to Hcg.....it is in most pharmacies and at all hospitals and here I think it is called Pregnyl........Unigen is a Thai company and they have there own make of it and a box is around 1000b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 HCG not legal for sale without prescription. And also not same as Pregnanolol. The latter is a hormone precursor which converts to DHEA (which in turn converts to estrogen, tetsosterone and other hsteroid hosrmones) and to progesterone. DHEA might be avaialbale at GNC, not sure. Progesterone is available in micronized oral form under brand name Utrogestan. In addition to serving as a precursor to these substances, pregnenolone is a "neurosteroid" and has some direct effects on the brain, if this is what it is being sought for then neither DHEA nor progesterone would substitute. Should add that to date research on its effectiveness in enhancing memory has been limited to work on rodents (whom it did seem to help) and it has not yet been established to be effective in humans, altho research is ongoing. Also some promising research on its use in some mental illnesses but again, early stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejah Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 confirm i am looking for pregnenolone my blood tests show depleted adrenals and very low pregnenolone levels doctor prescribed 10 mg a day which i got in the usa hoping to find some here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackoneilone Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 confirm i am looking for pregnenolonemy blood tests show depleted adrenals and very low pregnenolone levels doctor prescribed 10 mg a day which i got in the usa hoping to find some here big hospital pharmacies might have it or else you could get it prescribed(as u seem to already have had and have the script) and import it from oversea pharmacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Yes, sometimes the large hospitals have drugs that are not approved for general import into Thailand. I think your best bet is to see an endocrinologist. Try this doctor at BNH: DR. SOMPONGSE SUWANWALAIKORN Specialty : Endocrinology Language : English,Thai,Chineses, Education Medical school : MD - Ramathibodi Hospital,Mahidol University Certification : Diplomate Thai Board of Endocrinology & Metabolism Certificate in Endocrinology Eastern Virginia Medical School,Norflok VA. USA Certificate in Endocrinology University of Massachusetts Mesical Center,MA.USA Master Degree in Clinical Epidemiology, Chulalongkorn University Academic title : Assoviate Professor : Chief of Endocrine unit Chulalongkorn Hospital Tuesday 16:30 - 19:00 Sunday 08:00 - 12:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejah Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 great thanks for the dr. suggestion do you know any GOOD doctors in/near pattaya? BTW looks to me like pregnenolone is available over the counter in many countries including the usa inexpensive too as for the quality i can not attest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 greatthanks for the dr. suggestion do you know any GOOD doctors in/near pattaya? For non-specialized medical care -- or very common specialties -- Samitivej and Phyathai in Sri Racha but you are unlikely to find anyone conversant with adrenal problems at either. The Queen Sirikit Naval Hospital in Sattahip offers solid good care, possible they would have an endocrinologist but it is a govt hosp with long waits, little English speaking, lots of red tape and by the time you would either actually see an endocrinologist or determine there isn't one you could have been to Bangkok and back. However do keep this place in mind as where to go in an emergency. Especially if uninsured as substantially less expensive than Samitivej or Phyathai. I think the US OTC sales of pregnenolone would be similiar to the OTC sales of natural progesterone, with which I am very familiar. It is hiot or miss and many of the products do not actually contain what is claimed. For example much of what is sold as "natuiral progesterone" is actually wild yam which while it has some progesterone-like effects is not the same thing. I had need of natural progesterone fopr many years, tried numerous online purchases and never did find one that was any good. Which is not to say there are none, but I have me doubts and I think the pregnenolone woulf be same story. Other issue, and it's a biggie in your case, is that these things are sold under the category off "nutriotional supplement" in the US which allows their wide availability but also exempts them from the quality controls applicable to pharmaceuticals, so that even if they contain the stated active ingrediant, the dosage is often not at all as listed and may also vary from tablet to tablet or bottle to bottle. For people with no real health problem, just using these products as part of a fad, this may not matter much, but if you really have some degree of adrenal insufficiency you need a reliabel preparation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejah Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 wow Sheryl once again you really did a great job thanks so much for the heads up about hospitals this information may really come in handy some day should an emergency arise the doctor in the usa who prescribed pregneolone seems to know a lot about testing and diagnosing she directed me to the women's international compounding pharmacy where i have purchased the pregneolone not nearly as cheap as what i have seen online but apparently good and trustworthy quality check them out if you are in need the really odd thing is that i was directed to take it in the morning but it actually makes me sleepy so i take it before bed the other really odd thing is that people say it can give them heart flutters but i only get that when i stop taking it so it seems to affect me opposite than other folks in at least 2 ways it is very difficult to come off of the stuff, when i try to cut back i feel absolutely awful i am on 10 mg and the dr said its ok to up to 20 a day that's why i am looking for more here i cant help but wonder what you might think of my blood test results shows hypo-thyroid (or something like that) and some other irregularities but the very low pregnenlone blood levels beg for treatment I am still on the search for a GOOD compassionate knowledgeable experienced patient and caring doctor (GP) in pattaya thanks again your input is invaluable please excuse the formatting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Can't comment on your lab results. You didn't actually provide them and in any case, adrenal issues are well out of my league, you really need to see an endocrinologist. I've been on thsi forum for some years now and heard/read lots from folks in Pattaya. From all that I hear you are very, very unlikely to find what you seek there. For that matter really good GPs aren't that easy to come by in Bkk, ironicall one can mor easily get top specialty care. And any GP you find is very unlikely to be able to avdviose you on the pregnenolone amd underlying condition for which it wa sprescribed. really advise you tio see an endocrinologist, If you do not have it, would be worth getting your history from your doctor back home along with prior lab test results to show him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellew Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 confirm i am looking for pregnenolonemy blood tests show depleted adrenals and very low pregnenolone levels doctor prescribed 10 mg a day which i got in the usa hoping to find some here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellew Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 where can i find a good endodrinoligist in pattaya or bangkok please?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 None in Pattaya See post #7 for one in Bangkok, assuming you are looking for one whose expertise goes beyng thyroid and diabetes. If for thyroid, there are 2 good specialists at Bumrungrad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellew Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 hello deeja, can u please tell me what test you had as i think i need to have them done too, mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejah Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 i had extensive blood work done in the usa last year usually there is a sheet of 100 or more tests the doctor checks off which tests to run (you take the sheet to a lab and they take your blood and send it out with the blood for results) one of the many i ran was for pregnenolone levels we also checked thyroid, testotorone, and many other things some came back abnormal pregnenolone was very very low she said my adrenal glands are highly worn or depleted which makes complete sense with how i was feeling now i am also taking maca interesting stuff not sure if available in thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dddave Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I purchased PREDNISILONE in Bangkok at the pharmacy next to BULLY's PUB on Sukhumvit between soi 4 and soi 2. Less than B100 for ten tablets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellew Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 maca is available in nantra spa soi 1 north pattaya, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 If your pregnolone was low it could affect your other hormones down stream since it is the precursor for many of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I purchased PREDNISILONE in Bangkok at the pharmacy next to BULLY's PUB on Sukhumvit between soi 4 and soi 2. Less than B100 for ten tablets. Prednisolone and pregnenolone are completely different!!! Prednisolone is a corticosteroid (a type of cortisone) and should not be taken exceopt under medical supervision. The OP is taklking about something altogether different, hormone which is a precursor to progesterone and other hormones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejah Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 thought i would get a check up with olivier he can not run tests on pregnenolone blood levels he steered me to bkk pat hospital but when i asked him for a name or referral he drew a blank i heard too many hit and miss stories about pattaya hospitals so here goes another try: any decent/good endocrinologists in the pattaya area??? i know not likely just concerned about my adrenals and thyroids and dont want to go to bangkok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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