Rimmer Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Pattaya, December 5 [PATTAYA ONE NEWS] : On Friday Afternoon, Immigration Police Officers led by Police Lieutenant Colonel Prapansak arrested a Hungarian National wanted back in his native country to face charges of tax evasion. Mr. Peter Andras Sarkadi aged 55 was arrested at his house located at the SP Village Estate in Soi Siam Country Club. It was revealed that the suspect had opened a car showroom and failed to pay tax on his stock of vehicles amounting to the equivalent of 40 Million Baht. Mr Sarkadi confirmed he was the man mentioned in the warrant and will be handed over to Hungarian Officials in Bangkok prior to his extradition back to his native country. http://www.pattayaone.net/news [newsfooter][/newsfooter]5 Dec 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Didn't know Hungary had extradition treaties with Thailand... I wonder how many countries actually have? Any numbers and names? But the article does not mention if he had in fact avoided tax or had committed a crime in Thailand - interesting that Police acted on the warrant - probably thought if he owed 40M Baht then he could pay them a stipend to be left alone - who knows? Just because he is alleged to owe 40M Baht in Hungary does not necessarily mean he has any money personally. Good luck - taxation is theft anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simcity Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 One day my accountant in Australia received a letter from the Australian taxation office to said I add made money from a off shore account & I was illegal, need to declare it before 14 days or sanctions will be made. After weeks of search, I find it was a bank account to my name in France , the bank close it and I received the sum of 32 euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedeflonga Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Zzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Reed Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 And of course...the boys in brown will see to it that his stock of cars are well looked after and safe whilst he sorts out his tax affairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Dye Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 And of course...the boys in brown will see to it that his stock of cars are well looked after and safe whilst he sorts out his tax affairs Well he's got enough dosh to make sure he doesn't go Hungry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHarries Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 And of course...the boys in brown will see to it that his stock of cars are well looked after and safe whilst he sorts out his tax affairs I read it that his car showroom was in Hungary so the Hungarian BiB are looking after his assets and probably giving them a run around the forests. Anyway, as I understand tax evasion is not a crime, tax fraud is. We all evade tax by claiming various get outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippyted Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Didn't know Hungary had extradition treaties with Thailand... I wonder how many countries actually have? Any numbers and names? But the article does not mention if he had in fact avoided tax or had committed a crime in Thailand - interesting that Police acted on the warrant - probably thought if he owed 40M Baht then he could pay them a stipend to be left alone - who knows? Just because he is alleged to owe 40M Baht in Hungary does not necessarily mean he has any money personally. Good luck - taxation is theft anyway! oh yea, well said,, it would be interesting to find out which countries have extradition orders, has the uk ?? also taxation is THEFT, i still dont understand why we are all taxed so much, i aint sure about other countries?? but in england minimum on wages is 21% thats on the minimum wage of £5.65 an hour,, OMG thats criminal,, no wonder we are all struggling to get the flight money to los,,,lol ,,, plus stuff we buy has ,, Value add tax,, what the ffff is that all about,, we should all become gypsies and pay nothing ,,LOL what taxes do workers pay in thailand % wise?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumbo Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 One day my accountant in Australia received a letter from the Australian taxation office to said I add made money from a off shore account & I was illegal, need to declare it before 14 days or sanctions will be made. After weeks of search, I find it was a bank account to my name in France , the bank close it and I received the sum of 32 euro The interesting thing about the government pursuing you for so called tax evasion is that this is the money used to pay their nonproductive wages, gives you a warm glow inside to know that so much of every dollar is taken to largely pay bureaucrats whose sole purpose is to make your life more difficult with more regulation. And they wonder back home why we come to places like Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlock Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 something very smelly with this news, first of all, im hungarian too, and i know my country well, we never send officers, or try to get somebody abroad... we not even arrest peoples in our country who have tax fraud or evasion! they may just try to hide the truth with some stupid story i guess... i also checked hungarian news sites, nothing about this, we are a small county, if one of us arrested abroad, (especially if hungarian officers go to bkk) that should be a big new in my small country... but nothing about it... hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korkenzieher Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 A bit bizarre isn't it? They say he has failed to pay a tax bill here, so they'll deport him to Hungary to pay a different one. It seems clear that this isn't an extradition, but a deportation, and as a consequence, he gets to face charges in Hungary! Of course, if he has committed offences which can lead to his deportation then that is a bit silly but there must be more to it than that, otherwise every government in the world could repatriate anybody, anytime merely as part of a fishing expedition. But anybody else smell fish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reboi Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Did he "Evade" tax or just "Avoid" tax????? Very different charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 A bit bizarre isn't it? They say he has failed to pay a tax bill here, so they'll deport him to Hungary to pay a different one.It seems clear that this isn't an extradition, but a deportation, and as a consequence, he gets to face charges in Hungary! Of course, if he has committed offences which can lead to his deportation then that is a bit silly but there must be more to it than that, otherwise every government in the world could repatriate anybody, anytime merely as part of a fishing expedition. But anybody else smell fish? What's so bizarre? There is a warrant out and it is an extradition. If I read it correctly, there is no crime in Thailand. The alleged crime was committed in Hungary. I cannot see the confusion. Regards Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handydog Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 And of course...the boys in brown will see to it that his stock of cars are well looked after and safe whilst he sorts out his tax affairs Well he's got enough dosh to make sure he doesn't go Hungry Best laugh I have had today ROFPMSL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minxwhale Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Didn't know Hungary had extradition treaties with Thailand... I wonder how many countries actually have? Any numbers and names? But the article does not mention if he had in fact avoided tax or had committed a crime in Thailand - interesting that Police acted on the warrant - probably thought if he owed 40M Baht then he could pay them a stipend to be left alone - who knows? Just because he is alleged to owe 40M Baht in Hungary does not necessarily mean he has any money personally. Good luck - taxation is theft anyway! oh yea, well said,, it would be interesting to find out which countries have extradition orders, has the uk ?? also taxation is THEFT, i still dont understand why we are all taxed so much, i aint sure about other countries?? but in england minimum on wages is 21% thats on the minimum wage of £5.65 an hour,, OMG thats criminal,, no wonder we are all struggling to get the flight money to los,,,lol ,,, plus stuff we buy has ,, Value add tax,, what the ffff is that all about,, we should all become gypsies and pay nothing ,,LOL what taxes do workers pay in thailand % wise?? So many questions. It's just another instance of the Thai English language press's poor news reporting. had the reporter done his job, we wouldn't be trying to guess what really happened. This happens all the time even in the Bangkok Post and The Nation. It's just plain laziness and the habit of Thai reporters of never asking questions. I'm a journalist and I've been to many press conferences. The only reporters who ask questions are members of the foreign press. The Thai reporters are just spoon fed the info and it shows in articles like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrenova Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 And of course...the boys in brown will see to it that his stock of cars are well looked after and safe whilst he sorts out his tax affairs Well he's got enough dosh to make sure he doesn't go Hungry Best laugh I have had today ROFPMSL It won't be the gulag but rather goulash for this one ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 busted..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul888 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 1048 users reading this topic....... Makes you wonder how many have a personal interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaigold Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Taxation is not theft - it is a part of your obligation to do your share in an ordered society. You don't want to pay taxes? Go home! Easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythBuster Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I would have loved to see the face of the Thai officials who received such request. They must have been puzzled. All the yellow shirted people in their Benzes who never pay more than 20,000 baht a year must have been outraged over the request. Moreover the police chief could have arrested 10,000 more Farangs in Pattaya's upstanding community for the same offense which is in Thailand considered a virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaza1 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Well all very interestingly. There is allegedly another Pattaya 2 wheel vehicle salesman wanted by interpol in connection with a substance offense in the UK, allegedly. Apparently now allegedly residing in Hungary at his mothers address. He is expected to be in the high court in Thailand around Christmas time on several charges of fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Didn't know Hungary had extradition treaties with Thailand... I wonder how many countries actually have? Any numbers and names? According to The Nation, as reported on Wiki Answers (i.e. none of this is verified), "At present, Thailand has extradition treaties with 14 countries - the US, UK, Canada, China, Belgium, Philippines, Indonesia, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia, South Korea, Bangladesh, Fiji, and Australia." Obviously, Cambodia has dropped off of this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkc1976 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 You guys just have too much time....so many better things to do then havin a discussion about an every day thang... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatchamacallit Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Famous Quote: "Only the little people pay taxes" - Leona Helmsley............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaoPo Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Didn't know Hungary had extradition treaties with Thailand... I wonder how many countries actually have? Any numbers and names? According to The Nation, as reported on Wiki Answers (i.e. none of this is verified), "At present, Thailand has extradition treaties with 14 countries - the US, UK, Canada, China, Belgium, Philippines, Indonesia, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia, South Korea, Bangladesh, Fiji, and Australia." Obviously, Cambodia has dropped off of this list. So, a good BKK (International) Lawyer's office should be able to prevent him to be extradited to Hungary; after all, he didn't commit a crime in Thailand... Just a mere 800K Euro It's all Thaksin's fault LaoPo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Good . one more wrong doer in the world banged up whos next , Thailands full of them, pity i cannot get there till June, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaoPo Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Famous Quote: "Only the little people pay taxes" - Leona Helmsley............ "Helmsley served 18 months in federal prison............." Her later years were apparently spent in isolation, especially after Harry died in 1997, leaving Leona his entire fortune (including the Helmsley hotels, the Helmsley Palace and the Empire State Building), estimated to be worth well in excess of $5 billion." Poor Leona who died August 20, 2007. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leona_Helmsle...sion_conviction LaoPo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 <snip>Anyway, as I understand tax evasion is not a crime, tax fraud is. We all evade tax by claiming various get outs. You understand it wrong. Tax evasion is illegal. Tax avoidance isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happylarry Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 When a topic is sent out to everybody as a news alert why is there always someone who expresses surprise at the amount of people reading it.????? HL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
writeshack Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 And of course...the boys in brown will see to it that his stock of cars are well looked after and safe whilst he sorts out his tax affairs I read it that his car showroom was in Hungary so the Hungarian BiB are looking after his assets and probably giving them a run around the forests. Anyway, as I understand tax evasion is not a crime, tax fraud is. We all evade tax by claiming various get outs. Tax avoidance is not a crime, it's simply using provisions in the law to avoid paying unnecessary tax; tax evasion is a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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