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When i am working i dont drink, even the more i am drinking when have my days off.

I am gaining a lot of weight just causes by drinking Beer, i love beer.

Is there any way or maybe some type of beer where you gain no or less weight, i don't drink spirits.

Any advice is welcome.

I am 1.93 m and if not drinking 192 pounds.

And gaion very quick about 5-8 KG in 14 days.

Thanks

(Post it here as there wouldn't be many drinkers Health, Body, Medicine Topic)

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Yes, unfortunately for us beer lovers the relationship beer = weight = gut applies.

Some people swear by these Lite beers but for me the name is a typo and should begin "Sh" not L. Try exercising during the day before going out on the lash and then have one bottle of soda water for every two beers.

The killer bit is that each person has a different metabolic rate and we all know some lucky b@st@d who can drink beer like it's going out of fashion and not put on weight. That's life, nobody said it was going to be fair. :)

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Beer = alcohol, alcohol = sugar, sugar = fat, fat = weight gain.

Work = exercise, exercise = fat burn, fat burn - weight loss/muscle creation.

:)

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Beer = alcohol, alcohol = sugar, sugar = fat, fat = weight gain.

Work = exercise, exercise = fat burn, fat burn - weight loss/muscle creation.

:D

Khup Khun Mak Mak :)

As you can gues i dont like to reduce my drinking and when off i dont like to exercise as well,

are there any low calorie beers with good a taste on the marked, if so, any one try them?

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Well chiang mai expanded on my formula very well but the sad :) fact remains, those you drink beer a lot are recognisable from those that don't.

The only Lite/Low Calorie beer I've tried recently is the San Mig Lite and honestly it is the closest I've got to having sex in a canoe 'cos it's truly f**kin' close to water. In fact soda water has more tast than SML and is cheaper.

If a brewer ever manages to brew a tasty zero calorie beer he will be a multi millionaire in no time.

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for every 1 beer u have get down on the floor an do 50 pressups and 50 sit ups that way u get no beer guy altho u may look like a tool.

After 10 press-ups and 10 sit-ups they need to carry me away on a stretcher, so no good idea for me.

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Well chiang mai expanded on my formula very well but the sad :) fact remains, those you drink beer a lot are recognisable from those that don't.

The only Lite/Low Calorie beer I've tried recently is the San Mig Lite and honestly it is the closest I've got to having sex in a canoe 'cos it's truly f**kin' close to water. In fact soda water has more tast than SML and is cheaper.

If a brewer ever manages to brew a tasty zero calorie beer he will be a multi millionaire in no time.

Sorry Phil, I posted that without reading your post so I guess great minds ....!

As for the OP wanting beer but no exercise or fat, if you want the beer you have to pick one from the last two options as well, it's mandatory I'm afraid so your choice matey.

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Well facts are facts and we all know BEER equals weight gain! Drinking beer also tends to make us eat more salty things like nuts, crips,chips with salt chicken etc...Salt causes us to hold water(water retention) so if you can cut out salt then maybe you will not gain so much weight.Also drink 3 litres of water a day to flush your kidneys out.I have had high blood pressure and gout but since drinking 4 litres of water a day and cutting out salt my blood pressure has dropped to normal levels and no gout.Its hard but I replaced the salt with, ginger, garlic,pepper,chilli and onion.This has worked for me and I feel the best I have done for 10 years.

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Well facts are facts and we all know BEER equals weight gain! Drinking beer also tends to make us eat more salty things like nuts, crips,chips with salt chicken etc...Salt causes us to hold water(water retention) so if you can cut out salt then maybe you will not gain so much weight.Also drink 3 litres of water a day to flush your kidneys out.I have had high blood pressure and gout but since drinking 4 litres of water a day and cutting out salt my blood pressure has dropped to normal levels and no gout.Its hard but I replaced the salt with, ginger, garlic,pepper,chilli and onion.This has worked for me and I feel the best I have done for 10 years.

Thank, will try.

Your right i have the same problem eat very salty after a night drinking.

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Well facts are facts and we all know BEER equals weight gain! Drinking beer also tends to make us eat more salty things like nuts, crips,chips with salt chicken etc...Salt causes us to hold water(water retention) so if you can cut out salt then maybe you will not gain so much weight.Also drink 3 litres of water a day to flush your kidneys out.I have had high blood pressure and gout but since drinking 4 litres of water a day and cutting out salt my blood pressure has dropped to normal levels and no gout.Its hard but I replaced the salt with, ginger, garlic,pepper,chilli and onion.This has worked for me and I feel the best I have done for 10 years.

Beer in itself does not actually equal weight gain but the lifestyle that accompanies drinking beer often does. Feel free to drink beer and then exercise (not sleep) and wear it off and if your metabolism is such (aka, if you're young enough) your body will not convert the alcohol into fat etc.

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Beer in itself does not actually equal weight gain but the lifestyle that accompanies drinking beer often does. Feel free to drink beer and then exercise (not sleep) and wear it off and if your metabolism is such (aka, if you're young enough) your body will not convert the alcohol into fat etc.

Beer does cause weight gain in and of itself. A 12 oz beer has about 160 calories as compared to about 150 for a typical soft drink.  So if you have one beer with your meal, you are at about 8-10% of your daily caloric intake.  Not too bad, all things considered.  But many beer drinkers do not stop at one beer.  Four of five at a sitting might be more common.  So there you are now at 32-50% of your daily recommended caloric intake. Since you still have to eat, this means weight gain.

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The calories in beer are from alcohol. Alcohol itself is a carbohydrate that is most easily metabolised by the body. Alcohol is already a fuel whilst other foods need some work by the system to be converted into energy.

The body will always use the instant energy from alcohol first as this is less trouble. A lot of food taken just before, during or after drinking is left unused by the body, to be converted into fat.

This problem is exacerbated by the fact that alcohol stimulates the appetite, especially for junkish foods.

Resisting food whilst drinking will help as will MILD exercise after drinking. The metabolism is raised with alcohol so exercise will have comparitively more effect on energy burning, ie. a walk round the block will burn up more calories than usual.

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The calories in beer are from alcohol. Alcohol itself is a carbohydrate that is most easily metabolised by the body. Alcohol is already a fuel whilst other foods need some work by the system to be converted into energy.

The body will always use the instant energy from alcohol first as this is less trouble. A lot of food taken just before, during or after drinking is left unused by the body, to be converted into fat.

This problem is exacerbated by the fact that alcohol stimulates the appetite, especially for junkish foods.

Resisting food whilst drinking will help as will MILD exercise after drinking. The metabolism is raised with alcohol so exercise will have comparitively more effect on energy burning, ie. a walk round the block will burn up more calories than usual.

Sorry, but the body's metabolism is lowered by alcohol, not raised.  Alcohol is a depressant.  Not only that, but alcohol use restricts the ability of a body to burn fat (causing the body to use acetate, instead.)

Walking around the block won't do much of anything.  With a 190 lb man burning 300 calories an hour from moderate paced walking, then it would take about 35 minutes of steady walking to burn up the calories from one beer, disregarding the alcohol's effect on metabolism.  

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Interesting, but I largely disagree.

Alcohol is a depressant of the central nervous system and not of the metabolic rate.

All consumption, which results in calorific activity (burning) excites the metabolism.

Many people become "flushed" when drinking. This indicates a faster heart rate, which results in increased burning.

All exercise is beneficial in attempting to keep weight down and even mitigating the effects of just one beer will show long-term results.

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Interesting, but I largely disagree.

Alcohol is a depressant of the central nervous system and not of the metabolic rate.

All consumption, which results in calorific activity (burning) excites the metabolism.

Many people become "flushed" when drinking. This indicates a faster heart rate, which results in increased burning.

All exercise is beneficial in attempting to keep weight down and even mitigating the effects of just one beer will show long-term results.

The reason why alcohol has this dramatic effect on fat metabolism has to do with the way alcohol is handled in the body. When alcohol is consumed, it readily passes from the stomach and intestines into the blood and goes to the liver. In the liver, an enzyme called alcohol dehydrogenase mediates the conversion of alcohol to acetaldehyde.

Acetaldehyde is rapidly converted to acetate by other enzymes. So rather than getting stored as fat, the main fate of alcohol is conversion into acetate, the amount of acetate formed is dose dependant on the amount of alcohol consumed. For example, blood levels of acetate after drinking the vodka were 2.5 times higher than normal. And it appears this sharp rise in acetate puts the brakes on fat loss.

The type of fuel your body uses is dictated to some extent by availability. This is one of the reasons for the induction phase of the Metabolic Diet. By severely limiting your carb intake your body is forced to rev up it's fat burning machinery, so that you become fat adapted, and increase the use of protein for some of the functions, such as anaplerosis, that carbs are usually heavily involved in.

In other words, your body tends to use whatever you feed it, and after a time becomes adapted to the macro nutrient intake. Unfortunately when acetate levels rise, your body burns the acetate preferentially, since acetate is basically the same product of beta oxidation of fatty acids and glycolysis (glucose to pyruvate to acetate), but it doesn't' require the metabolic work to produce.

So the body simply burns the acetate first, and with the rapid rise seen with alcohol intake, basically pushes fat oxidation out of the metabolic equation.

Because acetate is readily formed from alcohol it can be worse than taking in carbs as far as affecting fat metabolism. That's because glucose has to be sequentially metabolized through various steps to form acetate while acetate is formed from alcohol in just a few steps.

Also alcohol, because it can be considered part way between carbs and fats, has more calories than carbs. That's why even the low carb beers contain under 100 calories even though they only have about 2.5 grams of carbs and .5 grams of protein. While the carbs and protein only make up 12 calories, the 12 grams of alcohol make up the remaining 80 or so calories.

Taken from bodybulding.com.

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Alcohol provides empty calories. No nutritional benefit is derived from alcohol. Alcohol is 7 calories per gram, which is almost as high as fat in caloric content. In addition alcohol temporarily slows down the metabolism. The effect of this is that less fat is burned (lower BMR). Generally, high fat foods are consumed with alcohol, which makes matters worse. Also, alcohol inhibits the liver from metabolizing fat. As you can see any weight loss programs has to exclude alcohol.

Taken from fitness-health.co.uk

And the alcoholic flush has nothing to do with an increased metabolism.  It has to do with dilation of the capillaries due to a missense polymorphism that encodes the enzyme, acetaldehyde dehydrogenase (ALDH2).  The heart rate actually slows after drinking alcohol.

Of course, exercise is a good idea.  But walking around the block or doing 50 push-ups, as someone else suggested, will not do the trick.  You need to do real exercise of a duration long enough to burn off the calories.

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Beer = alcohol, alcohol = sugar, sugar = fat, fat = weight gain.

Work = exercise, exercise = fat burn, fat burn - weight loss/muscle creation.

:)

Exactly. As the Daily Telegraph in the UK put it, the only diet that works is "less in, more out". I too love (copious amounts of) beer and had same problem. Gym etc helps but hard to keep going. So in the end bought my own treadmill and watch TV while I exercise. I have bad knees from rugby long ago so just fast walk. 5-8km every morning, 4-7km most evenings and usually 12-15km on weekend days. Lost 7kg in six months, and have kept it off. Boring but it works.

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