Arrest Warrant Issued For Red-Shirt Core Leader Arisman

[metisdead]

Took a while to get round to it. Timing?

That's just the thing, they finally found one:

[capt_canada42]

No apology. If asking for elections is overthrowing the government, that is.

Man I don't know what rock you have been living under for how many years, maybe its time to see who is who and doing what to you !

[Insight]

The first test of the "peaceful" reds...

[frodo]

According to a website I won't name (message if u want it), Arisiman is still on stage with Nattawut, while Jataporn continues to spew his vitriol to the masses.

[WISteve]

Why is there an arrest warrant for Arisman for suggesting to overthrow the government but no arrest warrant 2 years after the yellow shirts did the same thing? And also no arrest warrants for the coup leaders that did actually overthrow the government, not just talk about it?

Equal justice under the law is only a dream here.

Occupation of Government House, murder in the streets and closing the international airports.

But there is still no justice for those criminals.

[Old Man River]

According to a website I won't name (message if u want it), Arisiman is still on stage with Nattawut, while Jataporn continues to spew his vitriol to the masses.

The Nation is reporting that Nattawut said Arisman will give himself up on April 1st, but not before because he is needed now to join the fight of the Red Shirt movement.

[webfact]

Red shirts will not allow police to arrest Arisaman: Natthawut

BANGKOK: -- Natthawut Saikua, a red-shirt leader, announced on the stage at the Pan Fah Bridge Saturday nigh that the red-shirt people would not allow police to arrest Arisaman Pongruangrong.

Natthawut said Arisaman would surrender on April 1 but for the time being, Arisaman would have to go on stage to address the protesters and join the fight of the red-shirt movement.

The Criminal Court Saturday approved police's request to issue an arrest warrant against Arisaman for having incited unrest.

-- The Nation 2010-03-13

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[noahvail]

should have happened earlier for sre, I assume they had someone taping Arisman in January. The simple fact is if they send in only 2 respected senior policemen to make the arrest, that Arisman will look like the thug he is if he resists or allows the crowd to prevent his lawful arrest. The reds realy cannot afford to be seen that way at this point in time. Their limited credibility will drop to zero if he doesn't go peacefully.

I don't know which 2 respected senior policemen would volunteer for that job. On the upside, if they serve the warrant and take him away, they are heroes to the ruling government. On the downside, if Arisman decides not to go away peaceably and instructs the crowd to help him, those 2 policemen become martyrs sacrificial lambs.

[antony77]

No apology. If asking for elections is overthrowing the government, that is.

A couple of minutes checking this webboard and some googling would provide you with enough information see why the words being used are 'inciting the public to overthrow the government'.

- He has on numerous occasions threatened to kill ahbisit and others.

- He was the leader of the gang of thugs that smashed into the official car that he thought Abhisit was in at the Royal Cliff in Pattaya, in front of regional leaders and the regional press.

- And he was the leader of the gang of thugs who pulled Abhisits driver out of the car and severely beat him up.

Nice guy? Fair and balanced?

Would you want him in a position of power, responsible to formulate national policy at a ministerial level?

That's what is very likely if the government is forced to step down or the PT / UDD win (read buy) an election in the near future.

Another point:

- Suddenly the red shirt rally is all about demaning elections.

- Last month they were the champions of democracy.

- The month before that they were demanding a pardon for their massively corrupt leader who should be before the world courts for massive crimes against humanity.

Wonder what their war cry will be next month? any ideas?

I just can't undersatnd why he is not in Jail. In any other country he would be

[ratcatcher]

According to a website I won't name (message if u want it), Arisiman is still on stage with Nattawut, while Jataporn continues to spew his vitriol to the masses.

The Nation is reporting that Nattawut said Arisman will give himself up on April 1st, but not before because he is needed now to join the fight of the Red Shirt movement.

Arisman will be charged with sedition, yet he is still free to appear on stage and has the balls to tell the police "See you April 1st (fools day) but I'm busy now stirring up a riot".

Sounds a bit like the U.S. troops getting Bin Laden and he says "Sorry guys I'm busy with the Taliban come back in two weeks. Amazing.

[Old Man River]

should have happened earlier for sre, I assume they had someone taping Arisman in January. The simple fact is if they send in only 2 respected senior policemen to make the arrest, that Arisman will look like the thug he is if he resists or allows the crowd to prevent his lawful arrest. The reds realy cannot afford to be seen that way at this point in time. Their limited credibility will drop to zero if he doesn't go peacefully.

I don't know which 2 respected senior policemen would volunteer for that job. On the upside, if they serve the warrant and take him away, they are heroes to the ruling government. On the downside, if Arisman decides not to go away peaceably and instructs the crowd to help him, those 2 policemen become martyrs sacrificial lambs.

I doubt they will arrest him if he won't go peacefully. It would be tantamount to promoting the violence that I think is inevitable and neither side wants to be seen to be the catalyst.

[Troebal]

Why do so many people think that because you are against the reds you must be for the yellows. They should all be in jail. None of these people seem to understand that their rights stop when they start depriving other people of their rights.That goes for shutting down airports, smashing through the windows of a hotel, taking over government buildings or assaulting the prime minister. They seem to see no problem in denying people access to their jobs, their homes, hospitals or government offices.

Thaibkk- we farangs are interested because we live here, have families here, and what ever happens in Bangkok this weekend effects us all.

[monkfish]

It seems the protest has been to peaceful so its time to stir things up a bit.

[mythBuster]

No apology. If asking for elections is overthrowing the government, that is.

In any non banana republic, elections are held. The courts overthrew the government in Thailand. Therefore your comment is completely absurd. You must live in Bangkok, do very little and have very little contact with regular Thais outside your local beer bar.

What do you think would happen in the US if 60 democrats were told by the army to become a republic party member, or if a judge in England figured out that it made more sense to disband Labor. If there was one politician in any other country who would suggest that the poor should have less than one vote per person because there were too many, he would have been locked up in a mental institution, what happened to be led by your physician.

[mythBuster]

Red shirts will not allow police to arrest Arisaman: Natthawut

BANGKOK: -- Natthawut Saikua, a red-shirt leader, announced on the stage at the Pan Fah Bridge Saturday nigh that the red-shirt people would not allow police to arrest Arisaman Pongruangrong.

Natthawut said Arisaman would surrender on April 1 but for the time being, Arisaman would have to go on stage to address the protesters and join the fight of the red-shirt movement.

The Criminal Court Saturday approved police's request to issue an arrest warrant against Arisaman for having incited unrest.

-- The Nation 2010-03-13

[newsfooter][/newsfooter]

No such luck yet with the yellow shirt leaders who did not incite any unrest, they only blocked the airports for 8 days. welcome to the Thai animal farm.

[mythBuster]

should have happened earlier for sre, I assume they had someone taping Arisman in January. The simple fact is if they send in only 2 respected senior policemen to make the arrest, that Arisman will look like the thug he is if he resists or allows the crowd to prevent his lawful arrest. The reds realy cannot afford to be seen that way at this point in time. Their limited credibility will drop to zero if he doesn't go peacefully.

I don't know which 2 respected senior policemen would volunteer for that job. On the upside, if they serve the warrant and take him away, they are heroes to the ruling government. On the downside, if Arisman decides not to go away peaceably and instructs the crowd to help him, those 2 policemen become martyrs sacrificial lambs.

The big trouble is finding respectable policemen.

[tilac2]

what are you all FARANGS concerned about this bull shiiiez...

we are not Thai

just stay inside if you must till it blows over

they don't care about us ... (Michael Jackson's song...)

yessah, we'm jas niggaz in dis country.

sorry, gotta go now: hav tuh get to mah watermelon patch.

Sambo

[Jingthing]

Why do so many people think that because you are against the reds you must be for the yellows. They should all be in jail. None of these people seem to understand that their rights stop when they start depriving other people of their rights.That goes for shutting down airports, smashing through the windows of a hotel, taking over government buildings or assaulting the prime minister. They seem to see no problem in denying people access to their jobs, their homes, hospitals or government offices.

Thaibkk- we farangs are interested because we live here, have families here, and what ever happens in Bangkok this weekend effects us all.

Here is the truth. Those accusing us anti-Thaksinistas of being pro yellow have no other way to attack us anymore. They can't possibly defend the thuggish tactics of the red shirts, at Asean, Black Songkran, and now. The yellows are in the past, they are dormant now. Those accusing us of being pro yellow mostly don't even believe their charge. They are pinned in a corner in a totally indefensible position.

[Netfan]

Why is there an arrest warrant for Arisman for suggesting to overthrow the government but no arrest warrant 2 years after the yellow shirts did the same thing? And also no arrest warrants for the coup leaders that did actually overthrow the government, not just talk about it?

Equal justice under the law is only a dream here.

Occupation of Government House, murder in the streets and closing the international airports.

But there is still no justice for those criminals.

I guess you missed the part (its even in this very thread) where arrest warrants were issued and served on the PAD leaders for their actions. They didn't run. they are now out on bail awaiting a hearing, next month, I believe. They have not gone on to violate the terms of their bail, like Arisman has. As for murder, sorry but it was Red shirts who killed two people last April.

It continues to amaze me how the Red supporters find an excuse for every action the Reds take - throwing s*^t and fish is a big joke; a speech to bring empty bottles to Bangkok to fill with gas and burn Bangkok is apparently not a big deal; lying about 20,000 monks joining the demonstration to help dupe more people to join is nothing; that the violence last April was "yellows dressed in red"; half the leaders saying Thaksin is not the issue and half saying he is is never addressed. Seriously, can any of you think for yourselves?....meanwhile, it seems most of the non-red-supporters have said the airport takeover should not have occurred and damaged Thailand and the PAD leaders should be prosecuted; that Abhisit's appointment of Kasit was not a great decision (but politics makes strange bedfellows as they say); that the poor of the East and Northeast do have legitimate concerns.

[jdinasia]

No apology. If asking for elections is overthrowing the government, that is.

In any non banana republic, elections are held. The courts overthrew the government in Thailand. Therefore your comment is completely absurd. You must live in Bangkok, do very little and have very little contact with regular Thais outside your local beer bar.

What do you think would happen in the US if 60 democrats were told by the army to become a republic party member, or if a judge in England figured out that it made more sense to disband Labor. If there was one politician in any other country who would suggest that the poor should have less than one vote per person because there were too many, he would have been locked up in a mental institution, what happened to be led by your physician.

Fantastic post!

(utterly fantastic since none ot the things you seem to suggest have happened in Thailand actually have.)

Let me guess, you are posting from Nakhon Australia?

[meelousee]

Why is there an arrest warrant for Arisman for suggesting to overthrow the government but no arrest warrant 2 years after the yellow shirts did the same thing? And also no arrest warrants for the coup leaders that did actually overthrow the government, not just talk about it?

Exactly correct!

And this is why I would side with Red Shirts if I were Thai.

The yellow shirts committed air piracy, sedition and walked home free.

The rich=VS=poor

Cant anyone see this?

[frodo]

Red shirts will not allow police to arrest Arisaman: Natthawut

BANGKOK: -- Natthawut Saikua, a red-shirt leader, announced on the stage at the Pan Fah Bridge Saturday nigh that the red-shirt people would not allow police to arrest Arisaman Pongruangrong.

Natthawut said Arisaman would surrender on April 1 but for the time being, Arisaman would have to go on stage to address the protesters and join the fight of the red-shirt movement.

The Criminal Court Saturday approved police's request to issue an arrest warrant against Arisaman for having incited unrest.

-- The Nation 2010-03-13

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While they're at it, arrest Natthawut for abiding and abetting a wanted man. Begin cutting the heads from the hydra and move on.

[mitrapaap]

Why is there an arrest warrant for Arisman for suggesting to overthrow the government but no arrest warrant 2 years after the yellow shirts did the same thing? And also no arrest warrants for the coup leaders that did actually overthrow the government, not just talk about it?

Exactly correct!

And this is why I would side with Red Shirts if I were Thai.

The yellow shirts committed air piracy, sedition and walked home free.

The rich=VS=poor

Cant anyone see this?

Interesting. The coup happened because Taksin was corrupt (maybe they should have asked him nicely to step down instead). The yellows didn't accept the various proxys of Taksin that came after him becuase they were working for him and doing whatever it took to get him back (they actually DID ask somehow civilized that the government step down, the airport siege came after more than 300 days of demonstration), finally they succeeded. Now tell me: what do the reds want and why? They want Abhisit away? Why? What did he do wrong? He was elected as are all the other actual Members of Parliament. What do the reds want and why? If the actual government did anything wrong, take them to court, same as Taksin and his TV cook (may he rest in peace). But the reds have nothing in hand. Some dickheads want their daddy back, that's all. But that's not a reason to overthrow a government who has done no wrong.

[meelousee]

what are you all FARANGS concerned about this bull shiiiez...

we are not Thai

just stay inside if you must till it blows over

they don't care about us ... (Michael Jackson's song...)

yessah, we'm jas niggaz in dis country.

sorry, gotta go now: hav tuh get to mah watermelon patch.

Sambo

[Netfan]

Why is there an arrest warrant for Arisman for suggesting to overthrow the government but no arrest warrant 2 years after the yellow shirts did the same thing? And also no arrest warrants for the coup leaders that did actually overthrow the government, not just talk about it?

Exactly correct!

And this is why I would side with Red Shirts if I were Thai.

The yellow shirts committed air piracy, sedition and walked home free.

The rich=VS=poor

Cant anyone see this?

See what? You have no argument- "the yellows took the airport, so we can tell our supporters to bring bottles to make molatov cocktails"??? For the 234th time - the PAD LEADERS WERE ARRESTED AND ARE AWAITING COURT. They are not "home free" - they are free on bail because they are behaving themselves. Rich vs. poor? Why are so few people from the south here? There is poverty there, too. Thaksin has divided this country. Even his speeches this week were addressed not to "Thais", but to "the people of the north and north east". How many of the Red leaders are "poor farmers"? none.

[chillibilly]

(assuming 98% of the members on this forum are "farangs" I wonder how much discussion/ dialogue goe on with Thais about these political topics. And I wonder if they look at us "farangs" as silly being "arm chair" experts or discussing their government - political problems?

[mrtoad]

Good news, and hopefully a few more that are aiding and abetting are rounded up to. Jattaprat should be rounded up as well,although if he was in the UK would probably be detained under the Mental Health Act.

[Jingthing]

(assuming 98% of the members on this forum are "farangs" I wonder how much discussion/ dialogue goe on with Thais about these political topics. And I wonder if they look at us "farangs" as silly being "arm chair" experts or discussing their government - political problems?

Of course there is a massive amount of political talk on Thai online forums. You must be kidding to suggest their isn't. I don't think they are interested in what foreigners are saying though, except for maybe what our embassies who are saying stay away from Thailand.

Edited March 13, 2010 by Jingthing

[Old Man River]

Why is there an arrest warrant for Arisman for suggesting to overthrow the government but no arrest warrant 2 years after the yellow shirts did the same thing? And also no arrest warrants for the coup leaders that did actually overthrow the government, not just talk about it?

Exactly correct!

And this is why I would side with Red Shirts if I were Thai.

The yellow shirts committed air piracy, sedition and walked home free.

The rich=VS=poor

Cant anyone see this?

See what? You have no argument- "the yellows took the airport, so we can tell our supporters to bring bottles to make molatov cocktails"??? For the 234th time - the PAD LEADERS WERE ARRESTED AND ARE AWAITING COURT. They are not "home free" - they are free on bail because they are behaving themselves. Rich vs. poor? Why are so few people from the south here? There is poverty there, too. Thaksin has divided this country. Even his speeches this week were addressed not to "Thais", but to "the people of the north and north east". How many of the Red leaders are "poor farmers"? none.

The Reds leaders are now saying if Abhisit doesn't dissolve parliament soon, they will move from the bridge to someplace important about 20 KM away. This sounds like the airport.

[frodo]

(assuming 98% of the members on this forum are "farangs" I wonder how much discussion/ dialogue goe on with Thais about these political topics. And I wonder if they look at us "farangs" as silly being "arm chair" experts or discussing their government - political problems?

I cannot speak for all Thai's, but the many I have met online over the past few weeks has been wonderful! Many are open to discussion and share their ideas. They feel frustrated, like many of us do. It's actually, for me me anyway, warmly received. BTW, I have not been called a farang during these chats and messages. Always a first name basis.