Red Shirts Blood Campaign Is Dangerous : Health Groups

[hammered]

It is a bad idea. They are starting to look like a cult rather than a politcal group. It seems to be going very PAD at the moment with mystical stuff being introduced.

[Rayz]

Isn't it obvious that spilling blood in this manner is a symbolic gesture. It's a demonstration of unity and brotherhood, like an oath of allegiance taken for a united purpose.

[neverdie]

Guys, it's .01L (10ml). Pretty dam_n insignificant. You probably lose more during an operation on your wisdom teeth.

Sorry, just checking ur math. Im sure they quoted 100,000 protesters and 1000 litres?

How bout 100ml each, 0.1 of a litre?

[krakatoa]

I can't make up my mind regarding which is the most idiotic - the original idea or the reaction to it.

It is safe to assume that the Shinawatra family will be sending a generous donation from somewhere that isn't in Germany, UK, USA etc etc. About 8 pints each should be enough.

"or the reaction to it"

I feel sorry (perhaps sad) that you have difficulty in reaching the decision as to which is "the most idiotic"

AS if we don't have enough AID's / HIV in the realm now do you really think that that everyone is gonna get a clean needle ??

Then on top of that how many of the people taking the blood are gonna get "skin pricks" and then they will also have to give blood to have it tested for AID's/HIV infection.

I would be happier if everyone wanting to give blood just to slash their wrists with mashetes and let them bleed to death. Then they would have plenty of blood and we would have a whole lot less fanatics roaming the streets and vilages of the realm.

[bkkjames]

Perhaps the MOPH should step in on the childrens behalf.

Absolute nonsense.

[hammered]

Sae Daeng got it right with his comment on this.

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This 11-year-old boy from Bangkok was one of the first people to donate 10cc of blood in response to the call by UDD leaders.

-- thaivisa.com 2010-03-16

[newsfooter][/newsfooter]

Now they are sucking blood out of children. Disgusting, how low will these people stoop?

How long is the paymaster going to allow this madness to continue?

[scorecard]

Isn't it obvious that spilling blood in this manner is a symbolic gesture. It's a demonstration of unity and brotherhood, like an oath of allegiance taken for a united purpose.

Your cluthing at straws.

[dttk0009]

Guys, it's .01L (10ml). Pretty dam_n insignificant. You probably lose more during an operation on your wisdom teeth.

Sorry, just checking ur math. Im sure they quoted 100,000 protesters and 1000 litres?

How bout 100ml each, 0.1 of a litre?

I thought they're taking 10cc from each person. 10cc = .01L = 10ml.

10ml * 100,000 = 1,000,000ml = 1000L in total.

It's basically a syringe full.

[saintofsilence]

Imagine if all these reds are armed with blood filled syringes how much damage they could do.

[animatic]

Isn't it obvious that spilling blood in this manner is a symbolic gesture. It's a demonstration of unity and brotherhood, like an oath of allegiance taken for a united purpose.

There are gestures that make sense, and then those that are irrational.

This is the latter with out doubt. Desperation to make some kind of point.

Even if this hurts the peripheral causes more than it saves the leaders face.

So,

you are saying large scale mass blood oaths are still a good thing in the age of HIV and AIDS?

Sorry, it is not.

[Thanh-BKK]

Hi.

I VERY much doubt that an 11-year old boy would "donate" his blood out of free will (!) in the name of "democracy".

Which 11-year old knows what "democracy" means?

Which 11-year old loves needles?

His parents as well as the "medic" or "Nurse" doing the job deserve to rot in jail. Just my opinion.

Best regards.....

Thanh

[SeanMoran]

Guys, it's .01L (10ml). Pretty dam_n insignificant. You probably lose more during an operation on your wisdom teeth.

Sorry, just checking ur math. Im sure they quoted 100,000 protesters and 1000 litres?

How bout 100ml each, 0.1 of a litre?

I thought they're taking 10cc from each person. 10cc = .01L = 10ml.

10ml * 100,000 = 1,000,000ml = 1000L in total.

It's basically a syringe full.

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the volume of 2cc (or 2ml) mentioned in at least one of those most entertaining news stories?

[Indo-Siam]

I wonder what new and brilliant idea the Red Shirt leaders will come up with for Wednesday????

As I look at the "blood draw for spillage" it sure seems symbolic of the attitude that the top leaders of he Red Shirts have toward their followers: "We will spill (sacrifice) your blood to achieve our goals."

With this blood- spilling stunt, talk about a "cult" is becoming appropriate. "Red Shirt Spokesman Jimchai Jonesapah insisted that the Kool-Aid tasted "aroi mak" as he mixed up a batch for his followers......"

http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29...1799894,00.html

I finally saw a Red Shirt's headband up close yesterday - it reads "Rua Wan Thaksin Glap Ma" = "Awaiting the Day That Thaksin Returns".

Edited March 16, 2010 by Indo-Siam

[Who, me ?]

No matter how much blood they draw, it is the fact that they do it......and just to spill it on the street.....They are just losing all credibility, if they had any..... Who in his sound mind could deal with these fanatics if they ever came to power ????

Cops should arrest the leaders now, end this madness, and Thai people should now realize that it is time to grow up....

I respect this nation and its people, but it is now going very wrong!

[Insight]

Protest / parenting / medical ethics FAIL.

Well done.

[dttk0009]

Guys, it's .01L (10ml). Pretty dam_n insignificant. You probably lose more during an operation on your wisdom teeth.

Sorry, just checking ur math. Im sure they quoted 100,000 protesters and 1000 litres?

How bout 100ml each, 0.1 of a litre?

I thought they're taking 10cc from each person. 10cc = .01L = 10ml.

10ml * 100,000 = 1,000,000ml = 1000L in total.

It's basically a syringe full.

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the volume of 2cc (or 2ml) mentioned in at least one of those most entertaining news stories?

I'm not sure, I've only been occasionally following this year's protest to topple the government.

The fact that people are outraged about this is funny. Kids are forced to do much worse things in this country than donate a few drops of blood. Even your average blood test usually results in 50ml of blood being drawn.

Much ado about nothing.

[Meridian007]

dam_n! This is going too far! If the parents want to get AIDS and everything else, that's one thing, but an 11-year old?!? That's moving into the realm of human rights abuses, as a child has no legal ability to judge the "right" or "wrong" of actions like this!

Where is Unicef? The red shirts want publicity from this, and were hoping to use a child to garner it. I hope they do get the publicity, from international human rights organizations!

This is absolutely abhorrent!

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I'm surprised dttk0009, you find the abuse of children funny? Yes, there are many abuses of children in this country, but none have been used in the media to support a (tenuous) political movement. The amount of blood is irrelevant, if the child gets AIDS, hepatitis, or any of the other problems that can come from an ill thought out plan like this. This political rally is becoming less about issues of equality and democracy, (not that it ever "really" was), and more about the cult of Thaksin.

Edited March 16, 2010 by Meridian007

[otherstuff1957]

There are 1000 cc's or 100ml in one liter. 1 million cc's = 1000 liters. The average adult human has 5 liters or 5000cc's of blood, so 10 cc's is about .2% of an adult's blood.

In comparison, blood donation usually takes about 200-500 liters.

[bkkjames]

I'm not sure, I've only been occasionally following this year's protest to topple the government.

The fact that people are outraged about this is funny. Kids are forced to do much worse things in this country than donate a few drops of blood. Even your average blood test usually results in 50ml of blood being drawn.

Much ado about nothing.

Mate, drawing blood from children (regardless of quantity) in the name of your political goals is just wrong.

[dttk0009]

Mate, drawing blood from children (regardless of quantity) in the name of your political goals is just wrong.

What about forcing your kids into acting for your financial goals?

Kids are used for political gain ALL THE dam_n TIME because they draw strong emotional responses. Presidents going around kissing babies? Kids at political rallies in the US waving flags for presidential candidates they have no idea what they stand for.

If anyone thinks that any actual harm was done to this child they need to go do some research about:

1) Conversions

2) Human anatomy

3) Politics

4) Psychological development during pre-adolescent years

You only think it's wrong because the political goals being pushed aren't in line with yours and that's the only truth here.

[animatic]

No matter how much blood they draw, it is the fact that they do it......and just to spill it on the street.....They are just losing all credibility, if they had any..... Who in his sound mind could deal with these fanatics if they ever came to power ????

Cops should arrest the leaders now, end this madness, and Thai people should now realize that it is time to grow up....

I respect this nation and its people, but it is now going very wrong!

Bear in mind this is the official street arm of the Puea Thai party.

PTP MP Jatuporn is on the Red steering committee of 3 Buddies,

and PTP MPs are in and around this whole scene.

No matter that they can't even choose a MP to be presumptive PM if a censure vote goes against the Gov.

This is the level that this party presuming to take over the government of Thailand will sink to.

to regain power and money. Can you imagine life under these prats as your leaders?

[Who, me ?]

to dttk009

Which planet are you from ?

I think you don't get the seriousness of what is happening here

[onethailand]

Personally, I'd like to see someone out the names of the nurses, doctors and hospitals that are assisting this sick idea.

[bkkjames]

Mate, drawing blood from children (regardless of quantity) in the name of your political goals is just wrong.

What about forcing your kids into acting for your financial goals?

Kids are used for political gain ALL THE dam_n TIME because they draw strong emotional responses. Presidents going around kissing babies? Kids at political rallies in the US waving flags for presidential candidates they have no idea what they stand for.

If anyone thinks that any actual harm was done to this child they need to go do some research about:

1) Conversions

2) Human anatomy

3) Politics

4) Psychological development during pre-adolescent years

You only think it's wrong because the political goals being pushed aren't in line with yours and that's the only truth here.

If the shirts were yellow, blue, green or orange I would be saying the same thing.

[hammered]

Mate, drawing blood from children (regardless of quantity) in the name of your political goals is just wrong.

What about forcing your kids into acting for your financial goals?

Kids are used for political gain ALL THE dam_n TIME because they draw strong emotional responses. Presidents going around kissing babies? Kids at political rallies in the US waving flags for presidential candidates they have no idea what they stand for.

If anyone thinks that any actual harm was done to this child they need to go do some research about:

1) Conversions

2) Human anatomy

3) Politics

4) Psychological development during pre-adolescent years

You only think it's wrong because the political goals being pushed aren't in line with yours and that's the only truth here.

If the shirts were yellow, blue, green or orange I would be saying the same thing.

Agreed

[warfie]

There are 1000 cc's or 100ml in one liter. 1 million cc's = 1000 liters. The average adult human has 5 liters or 5000cc's of blood, so 10 cc's is about .2% of an adult's blood.

In comparison, blood donation usually takes about 200-500 liters.

You want to check those numbers?

[animatic]

dam_n! This is going too far! If the parents want to get AIDS and everything else, that's one thing, but an 11-year old?!? That's moving into the realm of human rights abuses, as a child has no legal ability to judge the "right" or "wrong" of actions like this!

Where is Unicef? The red shirts want publicity from this, and were hoping to use a child to garner it. I hope they do get the publicity, from international human rights organizations!

This is absolutely abhorrent!

--------------Edit

I'm surprised dttk0009, you find the abuse of children funny? Yes, there are many abuses of children in this country, but none have been used in the media to support a (tenuous) political movement. The amount of blood is irrelevant, if the child gets AIDS, hepatitis, or any of the other problems that can come from an ill thought out plan like this. This political rally is becoming less about issues of equality and democracy, (not that it ever "really" was), and more about the cult of Thaksin.

I have to agree with this.

This is child abuse in no uncertain terms.

Regardless if other children are also ill used here, that does NOT excuse this act

by deranged parents physically abusing their 11 year old boy for political symbolism,

benefiting a uber-elite, proto-tyrant sipping coffee in a Montenegro cafe.

And this act has nothing whatsoever to do with Democracy.

Abuse of a child, simply put.

Edited March 16, 2010 by animatic

[dttk0009]

Mate, drawing blood from children (regardless of quantity) in the name of your political goals is just wrong.

What about forcing your kids into acting for your financial goals?

Kids are used for political gain ALL THE dam_n TIME because they draw strong emotional responses. Presidents going around kissing babies? Kids at political rallies in the US waving flags for presidential candidates they have no idea what they stand for.

If anyone thinks that any actual harm was done to this child they need to go do some research about:

1) Conversions

2) Human anatomy

3) Politics

4) Psychological development during pre-adolescent years

You only think it's wrong because the political goals being pushed aren't in line with yours and that's the only truth here.

If the shirts were yellow, blue, green or orange I would be saying the same thing.

In that case, I'd say you're largely overreacting. Children are under the responsibility of their parents and as long as no harm is done to them it's all fair. You may think it's wrong but the child is fine, and as long as he is not in any real danger there is no case to complain. I would be more concerned with the fact that he is getting enough water or food rather than losing 10 drops of blood. Blood carries extremely powerful symbolism and that is what this action is supposed to imply.

[scorecard]

Sae Daeng got it right with his comment on this.

Can you please share what he said. Can't find anything.