Rival Thai 'Yellows' Discuss Moves As 'Reds' Rally On

[horndevil]

I thought gatherings of more than 5 people are banned anyway, aren't they?

Double standards eek laewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

They are supposed to be, but as with the "pink shirts" that law does not apply if you support the government. This was trap waiting for Abhisit to fall into, which he duly did. One more chip out of the government's credibility. The red shirts' propaganda machine will get maximum mileage out of it. I wonder how many other laws do not apply if you support the government?

Obviously, the reds are still gathering way more than 5 ppl and no sign of disperse. My friend who lived in Ratchadamri area was stopped by a group of redshirts three days ago while she was about to turn into her soi off Ratchadamri road. They tried to open the car doors, so she asked them what they wanted, and they said they wanted her to drive them to Ratchaprasong. She told them she wasn't going there coz she lived on this soi, and so she drove off quickly. Another friend of mine was also stopped by a group of redshirts and they asked him for 200 baht. These people are thugs who wear redshirts coz they know the police can't do anything to them so they act as they rule Thailand. So all please be careful. They might not do it to Farang but I just wanna share the stories.

They do this to farang also. I got a "lesson" from their guards in front of Central World. They loved smashing my stuff. Should I send the bill to Thaksin or Anupong?

actually planning to start a law suite against the reds, taksin, abhisit, anupong and all the yellow leadership for mental stress, etc... all who want to join the law suite join up.

The only way to stop this shit from worsening is to hit them all where it hurts - in their pocket books

[monkfish]

Can someone tell me, why the pink shirts are able to demonstrate without the government doing anything about it? Isn't there a state of emergency in place that bans all gatherings of 5 or more people? Or does this only apply to red shirts?

There is no pink or multi colored shirts just the same one color! yellow

Edited April 18, 2010 by monkfish

[Skywalker69]

we definitely dont need this

Thank Thankis for all of this and more to come.... So sad for Thailand

He will pay for it one day, mark my words!

[monkfish]

we definitely dont need this

Thank Thankis for all of this and more to come.... So sad for Thailand

He will pay for it one day, mark my words!

Thank the Dems for boycotting elections and instigating a coupe as well!

[tatt]

After police dont listen to the Gov.

The army back off.

The pink ( yellow inspired ) are too weak.

Abhisit now turns to his mothership - PAD.

Does he think civil war will sneaky let him escape bloody hand accuse.. no way.

This once again proves Abhisit willing to do anything just for himself.

PAD will be most happy since they get a good chance to clear all pending charges.

Thailand is sooo messed up.

PAD is fed up with Abhisit because Abhisit has always rejected PAD who claim that they helped Abhisit to become PM. Abhisit would never turn to PAD for help or even listen to their ideas but PAD would keep supporting him no matter what because he's the only one who deserves to be Thailand's PM at the moment. Why do you say Abhisit would do anything just for himself? If he is really like that then i'm sure he'd have got rid of Redshirts leaders long time ago.. it would be an easy job if he only thinks of himself.

Thailand is so messed up because nobody takes the law seriously.

[tatt]

"The country is split between "Red Shirts", who largely support ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra, and their yellow-clad rivals who hit the streets ahead of a 2006 coup that ousted Thaksin and again to see off his allies in 2008."

Not quiet, me thinks. There is a third group called the "Grey Shirts"./ They just want the other two groups to get a life and stop ruining things.

Then the so called 'grey shirts' are ignorance who only think of themselves. I understand the redshirts and yellow shirts..but not the so called themselves 'neutral'. These 'neutral' don't care how their country is run or by whom, as long as they get what they want and no one disturb them. What a selfish group.

[Maestro]

Opponents of red-shirts demonstrate in Bangkok.

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Maestro

[LuckyFive8888]

If there is a physical clash, the Reds will win, provided the army stays out of it. the Reds are tough folks. The men are real men, not delicate city dwellers that are not used to physical hardship. The Reds are not the ones that will need to put on the whitening cremes, scents and body lotions before the go into battle. I'm sure if there is some girl on girl 'rassling action the redshirts will win.

You got that right !!! My Isan farm boys are some tough dudes ,, real men used to hardship and staying power. I would love to have video of some of these spoiled rotten , pampered elitist teenagers going against them.

Any of you yellows have some thoughts of a fight ? I suggest you stop by the rally site and quietly walk among the crowd and see what you are up against.

You will see many ex military types, ( as black shirt guards ) and some very tough fanatical, committed people some of whom are ready to die for this protest.

The elites had their way with the country and brought it to its knees last time and imposed their minority will on the country. Now its our time and our right to express our opinion,, and if they try to get in our way all I can say is:

LET THE MAYHEM BEGIN !!! Its payback time.

The weak and delicate urban elitists that you are talking about the working people in Bangkok that are also coming from different cities of Thailand. Just look at the traffic going back to Bangkok after Songkran and you will realise see what I mean.

Anyway, what I wanted to say is that, let say the Reds "real man" wins the clashes and killed all the elitists (pessimistic ) as you were saying, what do you think will happen to Thailand then? Back to the years when only farming is main source of income of the country. Yes, just like 1960's...

kidding....

I hope that it will not come until that point. Let there be peace in Thailand, I hope that the current government will find better ways to unite the Thai people. But, key is with the Reds, if they just agree with the 6 months offer for general election then everything will stop and the country can move on.

Just my opinion, I would actually prefer dictatorship with prosperity and peace in the country than democracy with lawlessness, anarchy, destructions or even possible civil war happening every 6 months.

You know man , I get tired of people on Thai Visa bashing me for this post.

I am not advocating violence here or saying kill all the elitists,, and you know better . I was saying the reds have as much right to protest as anyone else and if the yellows try to stop them with violence ,,, they will get violence back,,, I think that is called SELF DEFENCE !! And simply stated the reds are much tougher and better prepared for a fight than the yellows.

You may prefer a dictatorship with prosperity,, but alot of Thais would disagree with you. And by the way the majority of those people you say going back to Bangkok after Songkran do work in the city as you say ,, but they are not elites,,, they are working people you are right ,,, but ask them how much they earn a month and if they think they are getting a fair shake in society,, the answer will tell you why so many people are in the streets protesting.

When the subway was being built as an example ,, hard labour contruction workers were earning 225 bhat per day for 12 to 14 hours a day. That should be considered slave labour ,,, and dont try and tell me thats ok because this is a third world country. The conglomerates , such as Italian - Thai etc made obscene amounts of money on the backs of the rural poor.

I will bet you those construction workers dont prefer you status quo and dictatorship

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it doesn't deserve it.

Edited April 18, 2010 by LuckyFive8888

[Jimmu]

Edited April 18, 2010 by Jimmu

[monkfish]

Opponents of red-shirts demonstrate in Bangkok.

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Maestro

Thought Svizzera are neutral?

[tatt]

Can someone tell me, why the pink shirts are able to demonstrate without the government doing anything about it? Isn't there a state of emergency in place that bans all gatherings of 5 or more people? Or does this only apply to red shirts?

could it be because reds incite violence disrupt lives cause havic and others demonstrate peacefully

just asking ??

The state of emergency applied to everyone in Bangkok and surrounding areas, didn't it? At least that's what Abhisit said. He didn't say "there is a state of emergency but you can demonstrate peacefully". After all, the red shirt rally was pretty peaceful until the army started attacking them.

He still let them demonstrate peacefully until they started seriously disrupting lives.

If I am in a bar and the landlord says to a unruly lot who are constantly saying if you don’t give us more beer well wreck the place and start smashing a few classes. Then the owner says I’m imposing a ban on you lot and will throw you out if you continue to totally disturb my other customers and continue to break glasses and then he tries to throw them out and fails. Then another gang comes in who don’t like first gang and disturb the peace a bit but do not say they are going to wreck the place do not do anything much. The landlord asks them to leave and they do. However the first unruly lot stays and continue to smash glasses intimidate people and cause havoc. The landlord calls the police who don’t do much and first gang continue smashing glasses and cause so much mayhem it gets to second gang. The second gang go to the landlord who has banded then and says why can’t you get rid of that lot and if you don’t we are going to do something. I tink even you can get my drift on that

Without being impolite don’t you ever consider crimes are of varying degrees and the authorities act accordingly. I have not seen in what you call pink shirt protest any call to violence any threats to kill or anything like that. There has been plenty of that from red shirt protesters but sadly people like you are either completely blinkered or just here to give propaganda for red shirts. Even gobbles refused to admit Nazis ever hurt any Jews even though 5 million where butchered in camps. You are a disgrace to humanity with your total propaganda. If you get what you want then it is possible millions will suffer or even die for sake of a megalomaniac. If that ever happens Karma will in the end give people like you what you deserve in this life or the next.

Totally agreed. Why do some people keep saying redshirts protest peacefully? They have all kinda weapons as seen on the news footage etc. and pls don't call them fake reds coz they're real.

Redshirts are protesting right in the middle of the commercial district, blocking the roads, business closed, making noise all day and night, march to wherever, whenever? Imagine if someone go into your house/apartment and protest 'peacefully', using your toilets, shouting, and stay there for weeks or months. Would you still call it a peaceful protest?

[monkfish]

"The country is split between "Red Shirts", who largely support ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra, and their yellow-clad rivals who hit the streets ahead of a 2006 coup that ousted Thaksin and again to see off his allies in 2008."

Not quiet, me thinks. There is a third group called the "Grey Shirts"./ They just want the other two groups to get a life and stop ruining things.

Then the so called 'grey shirts' are ignorance who only think of themselves. I understand the redshirts and yellow shirts..but not the so called themselves 'neutral'. These 'neutral' don't care how their country is run or by whom, as long as they get what they want and no one disturb them. What a selfish group.

Very selfish people indeed. They don't care how their country is run or by whom, as long as they can go to work and make money, so they can repay the loan on that condo and car they bought a couple of years ago...

They should go on the streets, let the bank repossess all that, then go upcountry and take away jobs of those farmers there.

Marvelous plan.

I guess you could be adviser to the big T.

BTW: Why did The Nation pull that article, where they quote Thaksin's words that he's proud of what the reds have achieved, and that they haven't caused any economic damage, that actually they made a lot of business to the food stalls...

I guess they should just accept being treated like cr@p.

Rice price during Thaksin's Government 16000Bt 100KG Rice price now 4000-6000BT

[tatt]

"The country is split between "Red Shirts", who largely support ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra, and their yellow-clad rivals who hit the streets ahead of a 2006 coup that ousted Thaksin and again to see off his allies in 2008."

Not quiet, me thinks. There is a third group called the "Grey Shirts"./ They just want the other two groups to get a life and stop ruining things.

Then the so called 'grey shirts' are ignorance who only think of themselves. I understand the redshirts and yellow shirts..but not the so called themselves 'neutral'. These 'neutral' don't care how their country is run or by whom, as long as they get what they want and no one disturb them. What a selfish group.

Very selfish people indeed. They don't care how their country is run or by whom, as long as they can go to work and make money, so they can repay the loan on that condo and car they bought a couple of years ago...

They should go on the streets, let the bank repossess all that, then go upcountry and take away jobs of those farmers there.

Marvelous plan.

I guess you could be adviser to the big T.

BTW: Why did The Nation pull that article, where they quote Thaksin's words that he's proud of what the reds have achieved, and that they haven't caused any economic damage, that actually they made a lot of business to the food stalls...

I guess they should just accept being treated like cr@p.

Rice price during Thaksin's Government 16000Bt 100KG Rice price now 4000-6000BT

I underestand the 4000-7000 baht is the 'guaranteed' price? No matter what happen to the crops they still get these money back for sure. If nothing bad happens to the crops then they'll earn whatever the market price is. Correct me if i'm wrong.

[Jimi007]

What day did the "red shirts" declare they would go to Bangkok to protest? I was flying from Phuket to Don Muang that day. It was February 27th, the day the court ruled to take some of Thaksin's assets. So, how is the "red shirts" protest about democracy? And why are they wearing red, if they are pro democracy? Isn't red usually associated with communism? I have also read a lot of comments on this forum calling for socialism from the pro red side. Is that what democracy is?

Thailand is a Constitutional Monarchy, is that really a democracy? This is the Kingdom of Thailand, is it not? It is not the People's Republic of Thailand. The armed forces of Thailand are called the Royal Thai Armed forces, the police are the Royal Thai Police. You can look at Wikipedia and see who is the true head of the Royal Thai Armed Forces. The color yellow has something to do with that person as does the color pink.

[bkksteviejai]

I thought gatherings of more than 5 people are banned anyway, aren't they?

Double standards eek laewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

They are supposed to be, but as with the "pink shirts" that law does not apply if you support the government. This was trap waiting for Abhisit to fall into, which he duly did. One more chip out of the government's credibility. The red shirts' propaganda machine will get maximum mileage out of it. I wonder how many other laws do not apply if you support the government?

Obviously, the reds are still gathering way more than 5 ppl and no sign of disperse. My friend who lived in Ratchadamri area was stopped by a group of redshirts three days ago while she was about to turn into her soi off Ratchadamri road. They tried to open the car doors, so she asked them what they wanted, and they said they wanted her to drive them to Ratchaprasong. She told them she wasn't going there coz she lived on this soi, and so she drove off quickly. Another friend of mine was also stopped by a group of redshirts and they asked him for 200 baht. These people are thugs who wear redshirts coz they know the police can't do anything to them so they act as they rule Thailand. So all please be careful. They might not do it to Farang but I just wanna share the stories.

They do this to farang also. I got a "lesson" from their guards in front of Central World. They loved smashing my stuff. Should I send the bill to Thaksin or Anupong?

You weren't sticking a camera in their face were you Tomaz?

[pontius]

Can someone tell me, why the pink shirts are able to demonstrate without the government doing anything about it? Isn't there a state of emergency in place that bans all gatherings of 5 or more people? Or does this only apply to red shirts?

There is no pink or multi colored shirts just the same one color! yellow

Just quoting this to underline the ignorance and stubbornness of some of the redshits here.

Every non-Thai is a falang, eh?

[jefro]

If there is a physical clash, the Reds will win, provided the army stays out of it. the Reds are tough folks. The men are real men, not delicate city dwellers that are not used to physical hardship. The Reds are not the ones that will need to put on the whitening cremes, scents and body lotions before the go into battle. I'm sure if there is some girl on girl 'rassling action the redshirts will win.

What a pathetic post.

One of my favorites actually.

[tonywebster]

if the yellows are so against corruption as they say they are, why are they not demonstrating against the dems with the two recent rulings of corruption by the EC? Maybe because they played a part in putting them in power and one of their top brass being foreign minister.

Hypocrites of the highest order.

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Maybe it's because the EC ruling is only a recommendation to the Constitution Court to make a ruling. The Democrats have a right to defend the case first and only then will the Constitution Court make a decision. The Democrats may well win because the contribution was made in between the 1997 constitution and the 2007 constitution and thus was not illegal, or so the argument goes

.

Well they were happy to have mass protests before any decision was made on the PPP

[rametindallas]

"The country is split between "Red Shirts", who largely support ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra, and their yellow-clad rivals who hit the streets ahead of a 2006 coup that ousted Thaksin and again to see off his allies in 2008."

Not quiet, me thinks. There is a third group called the "Grey Shirts"./ They just want the other two groups to get a life and stop ruining things.

Then the so called 'grey shirts' are ignorance who only think of themselves. I understand the redshirts and yellow shirts..but not the so called themselves 'neutral'. These 'neutral' don't care how their country is run or by whom, as long as they get what they want and no one disturb them. What a selfish group.

Very selfish people indeed. They don't care how their country is run or by whom, as long as they can go to work and make money, so they can repay the loan on that condo and car they bought a couple of years ago...

They should go on the streets, let the bank repossess all that, then go upcountry and take away jobs of those farmers there.

Marvelous plan.

I guess you could be adviser to the big T.

BTW: Why did The Nation pull that article, where they quote Thaksin's words that he's proud of what the reds have achieved, and that they haven't caused any economic damage, that actually they made a lot of business to the food stalls...

I guess they should just accept being treated like cr@p.

Rice price during Thaksin's Government 16000Bt 100KG Rice price now 4000-6000BT

Dr. Taksin controlled World rice prices when he was P. M.? Mai Chua!

[LuckyLew]

If there is a physical clash, the Reds will win, provided the army stays out of it. the Reds are tough folks. The men are real men, not delicate city dwellers that are not used to physical hardship. The Reds are not the ones that will need to put on the whitening cremes, scents and body lotions before the go into battle. I'm sure if there is some girl on girl 'rassling action the redshirts will win.

What a pathetic post.

Agreed. Appallingly pathetic.

My daddy is bigger that your daddy

Typical red shirt bully tactics

No rains, no common sense, no political platform

Just bullying .. nothing less nothing more

As sad as it is to see innocent pawns being used

by others who have their own self interests in mind,

as sad as it is to see the loss of life and limb, sooner

or later you just gotta say "ya had it coming"

[DagonKhan]

Credit where credit is due, I applaud the Thai's in their innovative ideas to combat "terrorism". I will confess that something as simple as colour coding them never crossed my mind. This will no doubt reduce the instances of friendly fire between the "terrorist" teams making them more efficient and it will also make the whole affair more television friendly. Adding in a few unkowns such as "terrorists" dressed in black makes it all the more intriguing, I'm going out on a limb here, but I think we could see "terrorists" using other colours as well, most likely green.

This whole situation is just laughable, how anybody in their right mind could support either side is beyond me.

[rametindallas]

Any of you 'students of human nature' care to venture a guess as to how long can the leaders on stage keep this crown whipped up or even enthused if the govt. doesn't do any more than containment? If left alone, would the Reds eventually give up and go home or the group that is left are the people in this society who are willing to risk life and limb to bring down this govt.?

[anotherpeter]

Any of you 'students of human nature' care to venture a guess as to how long can the leaders on stage keep this crown whipped up or even enthused if the govt. doesn't do any more than containment? If left alone, would the Reds eventually give up and go home or the group that is left are the people in this society who are willing to risk life and limb to bring down this govt.?

The reds announced that they were going to protest, and "burn Bangkok to the ground".

The government allowed the reds to come to Bangkok to protest.

The government allowed the reds to protest at Phan Fha bridge, so they confronted the military at 11th Regiment.

The government allowed the reds to confront the military, so they started their mobile rallies.

The government allowed the reds mobile rallies, so they set up at Ratchaprasong.

The government allowed the reds to protest at Ratchaprasong, so they went to Parliament and pushed through security and into parliament.

The government decided to enact the SOE, but let the protests continue.

The government decided to shut down the Red TV which was playing obviously doctored video/audio and inciting the protestors to become violent, so the Reds went to Thaicom and pushed through security to force them to allow Red TV back on air, so they could continue to incite violence.

The government decided to shut down the protest, and the reds got the violence that they had been inciting for a month.

The army went in with riot shields and rubber bullets, and the reds went in with petrol bombs and grenades. Then the live ammunition came out ... on both sides. 24 dead (6 soldiers). 800+ injured (200+ soldiers).

The reds got the violence that they had been inciting for a month.

The reds just push and push, until they get the violence that they are wanting.

If the government tries containment, the reds will just keep pushing until they get violence.

[TonyH]

If there is a physical clash, the Reds will win, provided the army stays out of it. the Reds are tough folks. The men are real men, not delicate city dwellers that are not used to physical hardship. The Reds are not the ones that will need to put on the whitening cremes, scents and body lotions before the go into battle. I'm sure if there is some girl on girl 'rassling action the redshirts will win.

You got that right !!! My Isan farm boys are some tough dudes ,, real men used to hardship and staying power. I would love to have video of some of these spoiled rotten , pampered elitist teenagers going against them.

Any of you yellows have some thoughts of a fight ? I suggest you stop by the rally site and quietly walk among the crowd and see what you are up against.

You will see many ex military types, ( as black shirt guards ) and some very tough fanatical, committed people some of whom are ready to die for this protest.

The elites had their way with the country and brought it to its knees last time and imposed their minority will on the country. Now its our time and our right to express our opinion,, and if they try to get in our way all I can say is:

LET THE MAYHEM BEGIN !!! Its payback time.

This story was going around the UK many years ago:

There was this old guy slowly backing into a parking spot in his Rolls Royce, a young student in his mini (car) raced into the parking spot ahead of him with a big smile on his face... The old man speed up and kept going and totally crushed the mini against the wall (also causing some damage to Roller) as the old man calmly got out to lock up his car, the student said in anger "hey! stupid old man are you blind? The old man replied... "No I am just Fuc__ng RICH"

[animatic]

Any of you 'students of human nature' care to venture a guess as to how long can the leaders on stage keep this crown whipped up or even enthused if the govt. doesn't do any more than containment? If left alone, would the Reds eventually give up and go home or the group that is left are the people in this society who are willing to risk life and limb to bring down this govt.?

The reds announced that they were going to protest, and "burn Bangkok to the ground".

The government allowed the reds to come to Bangkok to protest.

The government allowed the reds to protest at Phan Fha bridge, so they confronted the military at 11th Regiment.

The government allowed the reds to confront the military, so they started their mobile rallies.

The government allowed the reds mobile rallies, so they set up at Ratchaprasong.

The government allowed the reds to protest at Ratchaprasong, so they went to Parliament and pushed through security and into parliament.

The government decided to enact the SOE, but let the protests continue.

The government decided to shut down the Red TV which was playing obviously doctored video/audio and inciting the protestors to become violent, so the Reds went to Thaicom and pushed through security to force them to allow Red TV back on air, so they could continue to incite violence.

The government decided to shut down the protest, and the reds got the violence that they had been inciting for a month.

The army went in with riot shields and rubber bullets, and the reds went in with petrol bombs and grenades. Then the live ammunition came out ... on both sides. 24 dead (6 soldiers). 800+ injured (200+ soldiers).

The reds got the violence that they had been inciting for a month.

The reds just push and push, until they get the violence that they are wanting.

If the government tries containment, the reds will just keep pushing until they get violence.

Sadly this seems to be the case.

[JRinger]

"monkfish: Rice price during Thaksin's Government 16000Bt 100KG Rice price now 4000-6000BT"

gee, I wonder if the world economic meltdown has anything to with this ?

Edited April 19, 2010 by JRinger

[chadintheusa]

"monkfish: Rice price during Thaksin's Government 16000Bt 100KG Rice price now 4000-6000BT"

gee, I wonder if the world economic meltdown has anything to with this ?

Believe it or not Thaksin doesn't set the world rice prices. If he became PM today the price wouldn't jump by 10,000 baht unless he paid it himself. If you want to hold a rally about sustainable farming for Thai farmers go ahead, but the Red protest is about other issues. Many of the core Red leaders don't even come from Isaan.

[hextac]

"monkfish: Rice price during Thaksin's Government 16000Bt 100KG Rice price now 4000-6000BT"

Holy <deleted>, no wonder my father in law loves me...

[ukfool]

I thought gatherings of more than 5 people are banned anyway, aren't they?

Double standards eek laewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

They are supposed to be, but as with the "pink shirts" that law does not apply if you support the government. This was trap waiting for Abhisit to fall into, which he duly did. One more chip out of the government's credibility. The red shirts' propaganda machine will get maximum mileage out of it. I wonder how many other laws do not apply if you support the government?

The reds claiming 'double standards' because the 'pinks' weren't dispersed is utter nonsense. The reds are and have been breaking the law for weeks now. If they are so concerned about the law, then they should take the moral high ground and disperse FIRST as they gathered FIRST. And anyway as far as I know the 'Pinks' disperse peacefully every night without police or military assistance. When the reds are critical of others, they are being completely hypocritical and are really providing a very succinct abstract as to how they are breaking the law, and what they expect to happen if you break the law. Unless of course your red.

Think you are missing the point, they are not allowed to gather at all, therefore are breaking the law too.

[brianb1944]

If there is a physical clash, the Reds will win, provided the army stays out of it. the Reds are tough folks. The men are real men, not delicate city dwellers that are not used to physical hardship. The Reds are not the ones that will need to put on the whitening cremes, scents and body lotions before the go into battle. I'm sure if there is some girl on girl 'rassling action the redshirts will win.

What a pathetic, mewling and totally irrelevant post, grow up Kid