Thaksin's Latest Interview: It Is Possible To Come Back This Year

[Motoon]

It was all about the timing. After the disastrous Chula incident even red shirt protesters started to question the tactics of some of their leaders (ref. live interview Channel 6 / May 1st). With the danger of becoming unmasked (Seh Daengs statements in the same connection weren't exactly helpful) the red shirt leaders needed a jump start to refocus and unite their loyal servant masses again. TS has provided that spark by giving a timeframe and letting "his" people see the (imaginary) goal line. You can't deny his strategic acumen...

[animatic]

If he came back, maybe we could start all over again: Instead of an illegal military coup which further fragmented the country, throw him out by way of the democratic process--elections. IF they could muster the numbers.

A lot of you have bought the government's and PAD's demonizing of Thaksin--hook, line and sinker. They just want to put a face on the multi-faceted social problems to give everyone an easy target. If Thaksin didn't exist, there's a lot more grievances among the disenfranchised millions of the north and northeast for this social fragmentation just to vaporize. The problems are much, much deeper than a renegade billionaire PM who used his position to line his pockets.

Sorry dude,

I thought the same BEFORE they were in government.

Though the same from early 2006.

I liked him in 2005, till I figured out his act.

So trying to diffuse or besmirch the anti-Thasksin group

by laying it off as susceptibility to gov. propaganda,

is too little too late. Not that there is no gov. propaganda.

[animatic]

Shutting down community radio stations? If they are indeed coordinating a violent insurgency intent on overthrowing the government, why shouldn't the government ethically be able to shut them down? I am not sure if they are or they aren't, but I do know even in the US which has very good levels of freedom of speech and the press, a communication vehicle actively coordinating the violent overthrow of the US government would indeed be shut down, and legally so, even if millions of people supported the insurgency. Again, if they are guilty as charged, the better question is why is it taking so long to stop these violence inciting communication organs?

Calling for elections isn't the same as advocating violent overthrow of the government.

So they should have stopped at just calling for new elections, right?

[animatic]

Please set me striaght...when there are free elections before the end of the year, won't the majority of the Thais vote "Red", which most likely will be another "thug". And this "thug" will "pardon" Thaksin to return to Thailand????? So a year from now, Mr. "T" may be on Siam soil. Yes or NO???

bingo

Does anyone really think that the roadmap to new elections doesn't include constitutional reform? Given that the "thugs" will be out vote buying again. If you know anything about the N and NE you know they will. It's a given. So even if they get a plurality (which is not a lock), then are able to form a coalition (big if) they'll be back out on their asses.

vote buying and executions of opponants are the norm in the south. you not know because many of you falang never leave bangkok to see it and anyway don't like to listen. this why democrat so strong here

ok clever falangs, ask your thai friends what is famous in surathani and nakorn si tammarat and they will tell you HIT MEN. 100% of thais know this and most bangkok falang not know anything about country away from tourist bars. people in south might want free election as well and if democrats all go to jail, maybe they vote free.

Funny..., lame but funny.

We know that the TRT, PPP and PTP candidates got access to Surat Thani stages, and put up posters,

and talked to anyone who would listen, they were not beaten or injured in any way.

I am sure some yelled at them, because they don't like their past policies.

The last by-election included one running against Suthep's cousin. no problems....they still lost.

A total contrast to campaigning up north for non-reds.

The BEATING came after they lost and tried to collect PTP promised campaign reimbursements.

A PTP enforcer gave the old man a serious beating ON CAMERA for daring to ask again for promised reimbursement.

Edited May 3, 2010 by animatic

[gymboy33]

i see some of the chief taksin haters (not mentioning any names) are getting their overdue fix!!

with him being more or less out of the news for a few weeks they must of being getting some bad withdraw symtoms!!

[lannarebirth]

A PTP enforcer gave the old man a serious beating ON CAMERA for daring to ask again for promised reimbursement.

Yeah, that's the actor Methee currently singing to the govt. Larry David couldn't even write this stuff.

[difos57]

-- The Nation

With red shirts on back foot, Thaksin re-emerges

By The Nation

Published on May 3, 2010

Former premier claims he's not behind the turmoil in Bangkok and maintains he is very loyal to His Majesty in an exclusive telephone interview with Nation Group reporter Naya Jaikawang

Thaksin claimed he was not behind the recent bloody turmoil, but he said he was monitoring developments in Thailand closely. He distanced himself from "men in black" blamed for the murder of troops on April 10, saying "If they want to accuse me about this, it will never end."

For one thing, the hospital incident seemed to give him discomfort. When Naya asked him about it, he said he did not know details and suddenly hung up.

[newsfooter][/newsfooter]

Excerpt from the WashingtonPost:

In the current round of protests, Thaksin has secretly seeded the Red Shirts in Bangkok with former military personnel, said Viengrat Nethipo, a supporter of the Red Shirts who is an assistant professor of political science at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok. A number of government officials and independent observers share her view.

Thai police and army forces have seized caches of rocket-launched grenades from the Red Shirts. During the army's failed attempt on April 10 to move the protesters out, several fighters in black uniforms sprang into action on the Red Shirt side, according to videotape evidence.

Even his own red supports acknowledge he is responsible for the men in black, who were responsible for the deaths. Who continues to have blood on his hands? I don't think it's Abhisit.

(17.42) Seh Daeng: Thaksin phoned me and told me to allow access to #Chula hospital (Rajdamri). - via NNA # fb

It does seem rather obvious who is pulling the strings for the Chula incident. Even his right hand man pretty much acknowledges that as well.

Even after a few years to reflect upon on past misdeeds, Thaksin still cannot come to grips with himself. Still a liar with blood stained hands.

Well put together. It proves the lies of Thaksin and his red terrosist supporters.

Another of Thaksins threats of returning to Thailand shows the end of the red mob. One of the last deperate attempts by Thaksin and his red terrorist to gain support. Some red mob have returned home and are finished. At least they took back some of Thaksins money that he stole out of Thailand. Most Thais have patience and knew that this would come to this and it was a matter of time. What the red terrorists wanted was a mass riot with thousands of people dying, even shooting some of their own red mob in the back to fuel the riot, so they could blame the government. April 10 th didn't happen that way. The red terrorists wanted to take this to the UN for further pressure to dissolve the government. Abhisit did everything right and this could have been a blood bath, as Thaksin has been threatening. This further proves that Abhisit is the right man to retosre democracy. It is unfortanate that some have died, but again the red terroist are to blame. If everyone would go home, (red mob), these deaths would not have happened. There is bound to be a finale, its inevitable, let's hope that the numbers will be reduced to a couple of hundred before this happens. Hardly a chance that it would be a million, most red shirts were in it for the money and money does not buy loyalty. Time is not on Thaksins side.

The red terrorist have used every trick they can think of including invading hospitals and dressing former military personal in monks clothing.

Question for the red terrorist supporters, when does your missionary visas expire?

[hammered]

If he retirns this year there will be serious division far beyond anything we have seen yet. If some deal where he comes back is worked out it will need a timeframe that sees a longer period of calming down. A lot of hatred has been whipped up by all sides and it will take time for it to dispate

[kimincm]

BANGKOK, NOVEMBER 29, 2010 - Desperate to revive the sagging fortunes of his Media Conglomerate and to return to the spotlight during the election run-up, controversial Ex P.M.Thaksin branded himself a “liar” and “traitor” yesterday in a stunning press conference at his Dubai headquarters.

The brilliant self-promoter called for his own exile and said that he would hold a massive rally a week before the election if his demands were not met.

“I am a con-man and an opportunist who has taken this country down a complete dead-end,” said Thaksin. "I should leave the country forever and never come back." He then shouted his trademark "Ok pai!" chant to delirious cheers from his employees and supporters.

The colorful Ex P.M. said that if he had not left the country before December 20 he would hold a rally that would make his previous rallies look tiny in comparison.

“Thais will pour into the streets by the millions demanding that I finally shut up. They will pay respects to Democracy Monument and then storm my residence in an unprecedented display of people’s power. I will personally lead the charge, arm in arm with my brothers, and then once they have spoken I will leave the country in disgrace.”

The other PDD leaders said that they backed the plan 100 percent. Spokesmen vehemently denied that suggested a split between Thaksin and the rest of the PDD’s leadership. “We are firmly on Thaksin’s side here. We all agree he is a fraud and a crook."

This new strategy, he said, is also in line with the PDD's overall goals, which are to hold rallies and get people all worked up in the name of democracy.

At the end of the press conference yesterday, Thaksin called another press conference for Friday where he said he would answer the charges against him. He then led the assembled press corps to the local court house, where he asked his lawyer to launch a 700 billion-baht lawsuit against himself for slander.

[pornsasi]

THAKSIN WAR ON DRUGS

Initially, 90 per cent of the Thai population was reportedly behind the government's war on drugs, however this was before

children began dying.[18] The first child to be killed was a nine-year-old boy, Chakraphan Srisa-ard, who was shot on

February 23 as police fired at the car carrying him and his mother. His father had already been arrested. One of the boy's

uncles stated, "The police kept shooting and shooting at the car. They wanted them to die. Even a child was not spared."

[19] The next child to be killed was a 16-month-old baby, shot in her mother's arms by an "unknown gunman" on February 26.

[20] A highland couple was shot dead on February 24 on suspicion of selling drugs.[21] Their three children were left

homeless, the youngest of whom was a six-year-old girl. Since then, no evidence has been found to suggest the couple had

any drug dealings. According to relatives, they "had to die to help make the state suppression records look good". The

assistant village headman noted the irony of their deaths: "The couple were killed even though their names did not appear

on the drug blacklist, while a major drug dealer faced only minor punishment—a two night stay at a local police station.

"

Another critique of the government's lists was made by Charan Pakdithanakul, secretary to the Supreme Court president,

who said that, "People may take one look at the death toll and hail the government, but if you scrutinize the names of

those killed, there's not a single big-time dealer."[24] Similarly, a New York Times article noted that the dozens of

organized crime groups running the drug trade protected or led by powerful civilian and military figures were unaffected

by the campaign.[25] The Interior Ministry finally ordered the Narcotics Control Board to check the lists on February 26.

[26] A sub-committee to monitor operations taken under the anti-narcotics law was also established, with guidelines to

ensure that proper legal procedure be followed with regards to incidents reported in relation to the 'war on drugs'.

The panel asked the police to send all related data for it to examine within the month, and report on the causes of

death and their investigations every 15 days.[27] However, the sub-committee was not taken seriously, and it was not

until the end of April that police began submitting reports, by which time they would have been able to conceal or doctor

any problematic evidence against them.

Thailand's War on Drugs "victory" is temporary.

PM Thaksin's campaign has decimated the drug market at the local drug trafficker and street-user level, but it

has not reduced cross-border trafficking or attacked the drug trade's higher elements. Additionally, his battle against

"Dark Influences" has been ineffective, with few arrests of note. Thailand's King has even tactfully admonished PM Thaksin

for his ebullient trumpeting of a victory, when in fact the war is far from over. Burma and Laos are still major

contributors to Thailand's drug problem, and most major Thai druglords remain free. In fact, traffickers have simply

changed routes or are storing their product in border areas awaiting a time for safe shipment. While Thaksin's "war" has

had a major impact on Thailand's drug problem, it should be viewed as a relatively successful campaign in a long war, and

not as a victorious end to the war itself

2500 deaths , many innocents killed . Let the billionaire prai come back and answer for his crimes in front on a court of law with

witnesses .

Edited May 3, 2010 by pornsasi

[kissdani]

Shutting down community radio stations? If they are indeed coordinating a violent insurgency intent on overthrowing the government, why shouldn't the government ethically be able to shut them down? I am not sure if they are or they aren't, but I do know even in the US which has very good levels of freedom of speech and the press, a communication vehicle actively coordinating the violent overthrow of the US government would indeed be shut down, and legally so, even if millions of people supported the insurgency. Again, if they are guilty as charged, the better question is why is it taking so long to stop these violence inciting communication organs?

IN USA the Air Waves are public space administered for the people by the government.

EVERY station over 5w MUST be liscened and subect to wattage and antenna directional checks

and ANY violation of these is subject to instant shut down.

Using the public airwaves, to criticizes the government is legal, talk radioj does it nightly.

BUT using the airwaves for sedition or to incite insurrection as grounds for

loss of license, forfeiture of equipment, and possible prison terms

Hi Farang USA, this is Thailand not the USA.

In Thailand we have a separation of powers, look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

So to close radio stations, that would be a decision by a civil court and not the government itself.

Just look up into the constitution.

But at the moment the separation of powers and the 'normal' laws itself are not intact anymore.

ISA and SoE are nothing more than a suspension of the constitution, putting the PM and CAPO/CRES above the law. Giving him the power of a dictator, acting without an independent judiciary.

With all that censorship action Abhisit clearly abusing his power to cling in power.

[Jingthing]

Shutting down community radio stations? If they are indeed coordinating a violent insurgency intent on overthrowing the government, why shouldn't the government ethically be able to shut them down? I am not sure if they are or they aren't, but I do know even in the US which has very good levels of freedom of speech and the press, a communication vehicle actively coordinating the violent overthrow of the US government would indeed be shut down, and legally so, even if millions of people supported the insurgency. Again, if they are guilty as charged, the better question is why is it taking so long to stop these violence inciting communication organs?

IN USA the Air Waves are public space administered for the people by the government.

EVERY station over 5w MUST be liscened and subect to wattage and antenna directional checks

and ANY violation of these is subject to instant shut down.

Using the public airwaves, to criticizes the government is legal, talk radioj does it nightly.

BUT using the airwaves for sedition or to incite insurrection as grounds for

loss of license, forfeiture of equipment, and possible prison terms

Hi Farang USA, this is Thailand not the USA.

In Thailand we have a separation of powers, look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

So to close radio stations, that would be a decision by a civil court and not the government itself.

Just look up into the constitution.

But at the moment the separation of powers and the 'normal' laws itself are not intact anymore.

ISA and SoE are nothing more than a suspension of the constitution, putting the PM and CAPO/CRES above the law. Giving him the power of a dictator, acting without an independent judiciary.

With all that censorship action Abhisit clearly abusing his power to cling in power.

Hello Thai-rang SIAM. Thanks for the clarification. In any case, any reasonable person in any country would fully understand the powers that be taking action against media organs openly inciting and coordinating violent insurrection. i mentioned the USA because I feel global people correctly hold up the USA as a great example of free speech and free press, but even there, inciting violent insurrection will not be allowed. Cheers, Thai-rang SIAM!

Edited May 3, 2010 by Jingthing

[gl9999]

Hi Farang USA, this is Thailand not the USA.

In Thailand we have a separation of powers, look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

So to close radio stations, that would be a decision by a civil court and not the government itself.

Just look up into the constitution.

But at the moment the separation of powers and the 'normal' laws itself are not intact anymore.

ISA and SoE are nothing more than a suspension of the constitution, putting the PM and CAPO/CRES above the law. Giving him the power of a dictator, acting without an independent judiciary.

With all that censorship action Abhisit clearly abusing his power to cling in power.

It's not an abuse of power. You have a bunch of people who, no matter what they say, are VIOLENTLY trying to OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT. These people are rebels and terrorists and as such, PM Abhisit has every right to declare the ISA. If this same shit happened in Singapore or Malaysia or anywhere else for that matter, it's a sure bet the ruling government would do the same thing.

I am all for freedom of the press. The Red Shirt radio and TV stations have every right to broadcast whatever propaganda they want. They however do not have the right to incite violence. They have taken advantage of press freedom and the government under emergency rule has every right to shut them down.

[difos57]

2500 deaths , many innocents killed . Let the billionaire prai come back and answer for his crimes in front on a court of law with

witnesses .

You forgot to include the Tak Bai Massacre.

And that should be ex-billionaire.

[frodo]

Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing, but along with that, responsibility must also be adhered to.

Freedom of speech does not include inciting violence, advocating killing, violent overthrow of governments, using doctored and false audio/video clips of individuals on a repeated basis to give disinformation, the use of media through video which calls for terroristic activities such as using petrol bombs to burn down a city, or calling for assassination of government officials.

[Motoon]

Hi Farang USA, this is Thailand not the USA.

In Thailand we have a separation of powers, look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

So to close radio stations, that would be a decision by a civil court and not the government itself.

Just look up into the constitution.

But at the moment the separation of powers and the 'normal' laws itself are not intact anymore.

ISA and SoE are nothing more than a suspension of the constitution, putting the PM and CAPO/CRES above the law. Giving him the power of a dictator, acting without an independent judiciary.

With all that censorship action Abhisit clearly abusing his power to cling in power.

What you mean <But at the moment...>? It should read <For a while now...> and I remember something with ITV some years back...The eradication of check and balances was a tool heavily used by TS, not that there was much of it anyway...but I guess that's not what you want to believe, so carry on marching...red, red, red, left, red

Edited May 3, 2010 by Motoon

[way2muchcoffee]

Hi Farang USA, this is Thailand not the USA.

In Thailand we have a separation of powers, look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

So to close radio stations, that would be a decision by a civil court and not the government itself.

Just look up into the constitution.

But at the moment the separation of powers and the 'normal' laws itself are not intact anymore.

ISA and SoE are nothing more than a suspension of the constitution, putting the PM and CAPO/CRES above the law. Giving him the power of a dictator, acting without an independent judiciary.

With all that censorship action Abhisit clearly abusing his power to cling in power.

I wonder why the ISA and SoE were called. Could it have been a violent uprising of tens of thousands of people in the city center?

[kissdani]

Hi Farang USA, this is Thailand not the USA.

In Thailand we have a separation of powers, look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

So to close radio stations, that would be a decision by a civil court and not the government itself.

Just look up into the constitution.

But at the moment the separation of powers and the 'normal' laws itself are not intact anymore.

ISA and SoE are nothing more than a suspension of the constitution, putting the PM and CAPO/CRES above the law. Giving him the power of a dictator, acting without an independent judiciary.

With all that censorship action Abhisit clearly abusing his power to cling in power.

It's not an abuse of power. You have a bunch of people who, no matter what they say, are VIOLENTLY trying to OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT. These people are rebels and terrorists and as such, PM Abhisit has every right to declare the ISA. If this same shit happened in Singapore or Malaysia or anywhere else for that matter, it's a sure bet the ruling government would do the same thing.

I am all for freedom of the press. The Red Shirt radio and TV stations have every right to broadcast whatever propaganda they want. They however do not have the right to incite violence. They have taken advantage of press freedom and the government under emergency rule has every right to shut them down.

How do you know that this are radio stations run by terrorists? Just because they criticize the government? Because the government told you so? Don't trust the government, it is not the USA here.

Ever been on the Prachatai website? Are that terrorists?

Compare the two websites below, one is blocked because of terrorists, the other one is still accessible. (at my bangkok TRUE connection, one url is redirected to a capo announcement)

My guess is both sites don't are much different content wise, so there is a change to judge for yourself.

http://vimeo.com/ compare with http://www.vimeo.com/

[gl9999]

How do you know that this are radio stations run by terrorists? Just because they criticize the government? Because the government told you so? Don't trust the government, it is not the USA here.

Ever been on the Prachatai website? Are that terrorists?

Compare the two websites below, one is blocked because of terrorists, the other one is still accessible. (at my bangkok TRUE connection, one url is redirected to a capo announcement)

My guess is both sites don't are much different content wise, so there is a change to judge for yourself.

http://vimeo.com/ compare with http://www.vimeo.com/

Maybe they're not terrorists per se but any radio station that advocates the overthrow of the government, which incites violence is skating very close to the edge.

I have already said that I'm all for free speech, even if it's propaganda but anybody who uses that free speech to incite other people to violence should be shut down.

[pornsasi]

2500 deaths , many innocents killed . Let the billionaire prai come back and answer for his crimes in front on a court of law with

witnesses .

You forgot to include the Tak Bai Massacre.

And that should be ex-billionaire.

i grant it to you

[pornsasi]

Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing, but along with that, responsibility must also be adhered to.

Freedom of speech does not include inciting violence, advocating killing, violent overthrow of governments, using doctored and false audio/video clips of individuals on a repeated basis to give disinformation, the use of media through video which calls for terroristic activities such as using petrol bombs to burn down a city, or calling for assassination of government officials.

The shutdown of the red TV/websites is highly controversial as you know . Even members of his coalition like Banharn , and also the CEO of Thaicom have spoken against it .

ASTV (the yellow station) is allowed to remain on air even though they have been engaging in hate speeches and lies . Who draws the line between lawful and unlawful opposition in Thailand ? The governement !

In no democratic country this is allowed to happen

The weapon against lies is truth , its by no mean censorship .

Why the PM is not devoting his time instead to increase his close to zero popularity in North and central Isaan

rather then seeking to ban the opposition medias ?

[warfie]

BANGKOK, NOVEMBER 29, 2010 - Desperate to revive the sagging fortunes of his Media Conglomerate and to return to the spotlight during the election run-up, controversial Ex P.M.Thaksin branded himself a "liar" and "traitor" yesterday in a stunning press conference at his Dubai headquarters.

The brilliant self-promoter called for his own exile and said that he would hold a massive rally a week before the election if his demands were not met.

The colorful Ex P.M. said that if he had not left the country before December 20 he would hold a rally that would make his previous rallies look tiny in comparison.

"Thais will pour into the streets by the millions demanding that I finally shut up. They will pay respects to Democracy Monument and then storm my residence in an unprecedented display of people's power. I will personally lead the charge, arm in arm with my brothers, and then once they have spoken I will leave the country in disgrace."

The other PDD leaders said that they backed the plan 100 percent. Spokesmen vehemently denied that suggested a split between Thaksin and the rest of the PDD's leadership. "We are firmly on Thaksin's side here. We all agree he is a fraud and a crook."

This new strategy, he said, is also in line with the PDD's overall goals, which are to hold rallies and get people all worked up in the name of democracy.

At the end of the press conference yesterday, Thaksin called another press conference for Friday where he said he would answer the charges against him. He then led the assembled press corps to the local court house, where he asked his lawyer to launch a 700 billion-baht lawsuit against himself for slander.

thanks for the giggle!

[difos57]

Still no word on when the red terrorist missionary visas expires.

[kissdani]

Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing, but along with that, responsibility must also be adhered to.

Freedom of speech does not include inciting violence, advocating killing, violent overthrow of governments, using doctored and false audio/video clips of individuals on a repeated basis to give disinformation, the use of media through video which calls for terroristic activities such as using petrol bombs to burn down a city, or calling for assassination of government officials.

The shutdown of the red TV/websites is highly controversial as you know . Even members of his coalition like Banharn , and also the CEO of Thaicom have spoken against it .

ASTV (the yellow station) is allowed to remain on air even though they have been engaging in hate speeches and lies . Who draws the line between lawful and unlawful opposition in Thailand ? The governement !

In no democratic country this is allowed to happen

The weapon against lies is truth , its by no mean censorship .

Why the PM is not devoting his time instead to increase his close to zero popularity in North and central Isaan

rather then seeking to ban the opposition medias ?

Exactly.

And the question is how much disinformation contains the claim that the censored media is that evil at all.

[pornsasi]

Hi Farang USA, this is Thailand not the USA.

In Thailand we have a separation of powers, look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

So to close radio stations, that would be a decision by a civil court and not the government itself.

Just look up into the constitution.

But at the moment the separation of powers and the 'normal' laws itself are not intact anymore.

ISA and SoE are nothing more than a suspension of the constitution, putting the PM and CAPO/CRES above the law. Giving him the power of a dictator, acting without an independent judiciary.

With all that censorship action Abhisit clearly abusing his power to cling in power.

It's not an abuse of power. You have a bunch of people who, no matter what they say, are VIOLENTLY trying to OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT. These people are rebels and terrorists and as such, PM Abhisit has every right to declare the ISA. If this same shit happened in Singapore or Malaysia or anywhere else for that matter, it's a sure bet the ruling government would do the same thing.

I am all for freedom of the press. The Red Shirt radio and TV stations have every right to broadcast whatever propaganda they want. They however do not have the right to incite violence. They have taken advantage of press freedom and the government under emergency rule has every right to shut them down.

Since when Singapore is a democracy ?

Malaysia is a democracy but that is only quite recent and learning

[pornsasi]

Hi Farang USA, this is Thailand not the USA.

In Thailand we have a separation of powers, look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

So to close radio stations, that would be a decision by a civil court and not the government itself.

Just look up into the constitution.

But at the moment the separation of powers and the 'normal' laws itself are not intact anymore.

ISA and SoE are nothing more than a suspension of the constitution, putting the PM and CAPO/CRES above the law. Giving him the power of a dictator, acting without an independent judiciary.

With all that censorship action Abhisit clearly abusing his power to cling in power.

I wonder why the ISA and SoE were called. Could it have been a violent uprising of tens of thousands of people in the city center?

Yes that is also a good question

[frodo]

Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing, but along with that, responsibility must also be adhered to.

Freedom of speech does not include inciting violence, advocating killing, violent overthrow of governments, using doctored and false audio/video clips of individuals on a repeated basis to give disinformation, the use of media through video which calls for terroristic activities such as using petrol bombs to burn down a city, or calling for assassination of government officials.

The shutdown of the red TV/websites is highly controversial as you know . Even members of his coalition like Banharn , and also the CEO of Thaicom have spoken against it .

ASTV (the yellow station) is allowed to remain on air even though they have been engaging in hate speeches and lies . Who draws the line between lawful and unlawful opposition in Thailand ? The governement !

In no democratic country this is allowed to happen

The weapon against lies is truth , its by no mean censorship .

Why the PM is not devoting his time instead to increase his close to zero popularity in North and central Isaan

rather then seeking to ban the opposition medias ?

Exactly.

And the question is how much disinformation contains the claim that the censored media is that evil at all.

In other words, calling for the things I mentioned should be allowed and is protected by freedom of speech?

I do agree that PAD has also done its fair share, and had there transmissions been shut down, I would have no problem with that.

There are limits, and they have exceeded those limits of expression.

[Fishbucket]

Still full of the same old, tired, clapped out, anti Taksin, anti-democracy garbage.

Taksins misdemeanors pale into insignificance when set against the crimes of the anti-democracy, forces of evil , in Thailand.

And we all know who they are, don't we

[Eclipse]

Still full of the same old, tired, clapped out, anti Taksin, anti-democracy garbage.

Taksins misdemeanors pale into insignificance when set against the crimes of the anti-democracy, forces of evil , in Thailand.

And we all know who they are, don't we

No. I do not. Please tell me.

[lannarebirth]

Still full of the same old, tired, clapped out, anti Taksin, anti-democracy garbage.

Taksins misdemeanors pale into insignificance when set against the crimes of the anti-democracy, forces of evil , in Thailand.

And we all know who they are, don't we

A truly flameworthy post. Sadly, the profane epithets and colorful invective I've managed to gather in my career as a "professional mariner" would only serve to get me banned from this forum. So' I'll just say I think you're mistaken and wish you a lovely remainder of the day.