Red-Shirt Leaders Turn Themselves In At National Police Office

[Brian67]

Jatuporn & Co.

Welcome to "Peace through superior firepower"

A very sad day for Thailand indeed.

[yoshiwara]

I seriously doubt that this crackdown or arrests will end anything. Central World reportedly on fire. So is Century Park Hotel. Here are some photos of Ubon: http://memock.wordpress.com/ a while ago. Khon Khaen riots in the streets. As well as Chiang Mai. Government building burning in Udon Thani.

Its a good start.

[lilkitty]

I just saw Jatuporn and other leaders on Thai TV, signing something, probably posting bail. Several of them had their Blackberries and iPhones. If they were really arrested, would they still be allowed to keep those?

[TPI]

REPORT: Arisman, Weng and Suporn are on the run: Nation Channel

In honor of the fugitives.

Bad tune man... fitting...

It's all over now baby RED...I wonder if T has an extra bedoom or bedrooms in Dubai

[yeeowww]

Natthawut said the red shirts should conserve their energy and determination in order to fight another day.

"Please heed my call for an end to the rally so that we can continue fighting to advance democracy for the future," he said.

So what ever happened to "The Final Battle" vow of "If we are not successful we will relent"?

And what about old Tacky's promise of "I will return to lead the battle when the first bullet is fired."?

Yadda, yadda, yadda, Lies, lies, lies, brainwash, brainwash, brainwash, money, money, money...

The poor fools believe every word.

[yoshiwara]

I just saw Jatuporn and other leaders on Thai TV, signing something, probably posting bail. Several of them had their Blackberries and iPhones. If they were really arrested, would they still be allowed to keep those?

Sure, so they can phone you for advice.

[RickFarang]

Reports received of reshirts (identified by red flags) setting fires in downtown Udon both tires and buildings. Central Plaza and many businesses downtown closed.

[bartender100]

Looks like Sukumvit is closed to traffic

http://www.landmarkbangkok.com/liveview.html

[caf]

All the reds: time to shut up now you terrorists losers, I just wish they take the IP address of every red sympathizer farang and deport him! red farangs OUT OF THAILAND NOW !

Now that's what I call democracy!

Before you get too wound up with your emotions from the safety of your keyboard, you may wish to contemplate why the international community is now condemning some of the scenes being shown around the world.

Did you make the same comments on Tiannamen

[lilkitty]

Does anyone know what happened to the Yellow Shirt leaders, after they closed the airport in Dec 2008? I have not heard of any of them serving jail sentences right now (I could be wrong) if so, seems a bit unfair to me that they can close down the airport and get away scott free. Or could be something to do with the fact that their side came into government afterwards, so they escaped punishment?

It will be interesting to see what happens to the Red Shirt leaders

I saw a while ago that their court cases had been delayed, for the 8th time in succession, because they were "on holiday" during the date they should have shown up in court. I think that says enough.

[SomTumTiger]

Considering the choas, quite impressive operation involving minimal loss of life; today, less than a speeding truck ramming a songtaew at an intersection...

Another strong performance by the Thai Army - doing the job of the Thai Police. Dispersed with only 2 deaths (thusfar). Thank you to them, for protecting the country from the Red Terrorists.

[ThisIsMadness]

"Please heed my call for an end to the rally so that we can continue fighting to advance democracy for the future," he said.

PRICELESS quote......continue fighting to advance democracy, yeah right. PATHETIC attempt. next?

Funnier still, this government boycotted an election, most probably will get caught out for electoral fraud shortly, are responsible for killing dozens of unarmed protesters and unarmed foriegn reporters, muzzle the media, got into power via a parlimentary deal rather then through elections , and only because the opposition was disqualified for a cooking show. And the most ironic thing of all, is that these people call themselves the DEMOCRATS !

At least the foriegn media for the most part knows that this goverment is full of sh## , pity some of the expats are still clueless though.

Mate,go back to sleep and try again when you wake up

If you really think that was all that happened here in this country then you are wasting peoples time making comments

Have some respect ,and do some research first on a subject,so we dont have to all suffer your infantile remarks

Just to cover your remarks

If an opposition party boycotts an election (the democrats),and the only party in the election (Thaksins proxy) still cant win enough votes which is what happened

They dont really have a valid mandate ,do they

You say they have killed dozen of innocent unarmed protesters,thats a non starter really isnt it as i could mention all the attatcks previously on innocent bangkok civilians who is resposible for their deaths then ?

No one there after the continuing statements by the goverment to clear the area are innocent,incredibly stupid but not innocent.

As for the last statement on parlimentary deals etc etc,welcome to the real world and guess what that how it all works

[GM1955]

All the reds: time to shut up now you terrorists losers, I just wish they take the IP address of every red sympathizer farang and deport him! red farangs OUT OF THAILAND NOW !

This is insane talk.

Seems that there are very few here who support the redshirt movement, or have they all been suspended from posting ?

[Rideau]

As long as Red Shirt Paramount Leader Thaksin is still at large, you can't say it's over. This guy won't stop unless he is dead.

[saintofsilence]

I just saw Jatuporn and other leaders on Thai TV, signing something, probably posting bail. Several of them had their Blackberries and iPhones. If they were really arrested, would they still be allowed to keep those?

dream on

[sgtpeppers]

I seriously doubt that this crackdown or arrests will end anything. Central World reportedly on fire. So is Century Park Hotel. Here are some photos of Ubon: http://memock.wordpress.com/ a while ago. Khon Khaen riots in the streets. As well as Chiang Mai. Government building burning in Udon Thani.

Its a good start.

For civil war ?

Something any new prime minister should be proud of .... starting up a civil war.

Way to go Abhisit

[bangkoklight]

SKY: Thai army declares end to operation against protesters, says troops are in control of capital http://bit.ly/902hB1

Have the Thai army got Mr Bean assessing the situation? In control of the capital? LOL! The Reds haven't even started their fight yet. End the operation? Why? Do the army think they've won because they've arrested some key Red leaders? Do they think the Reds only listen to these leaders in custody? They still don't know the Reds are fighting for a cause. How blind can a government and the Yellow movement be?

[jdinasia]

Does anyone know what happened to the Yellow Shirt leaders, after they closed the airport in Dec 2008? I have not heard of any of them serving jail sentences right now (I could be wrong) if so, seems a bit unfair to me that they can close down the airport and get away scott free. Or could be something to do with the fact that their side came into government afterwards, so they escaped punishment?

It will be interesting to see what happens to the Red Shirt leaders

PLEASE do a bit of research on the topic before posting! (The same goes for Gymboy)

you only ever take into account whatever furthers your cause!!!

No, I just know what I write about (mostly )

The leaders of the PAD turned themselves in quickly after the arrest warrants were issued. Starting with Chamlong and another who spent some time in jail before bail. The rest turned themselves in as soon as Chamlong was released. They are fighting the charges in court. They are entitled to a trial by Thai law. That means that delays etc are part of the process. It took YEARS to get the first conviction on Thaksin. It took years to get the second conviction in the assets seizure trial.

Unlike Thaksin they have not run away nor do i think they will. The charges against them are FAR more minor than the charges against the redshirt leaders.

This isn't about the PAD. Their trials will be VERY interesting, certainly! They aren't being tried for capitol crimes that can lead to a needle in the arm.

This is about the red shirt leaders that do have arrest warrants on them for capitol crimes! The ones that turned themselves in are probably going to be exempt from the needle but maybe not.

[yeeowww]

Does anyone know what happened to the Yellow Shirt leaders, after they closed the airport in Dec 2008? I have not heard of any of them serving jail sentences right now (I could be wrong) if so, seems a bit unfair to me that they can close down the airport and get away scott free. Or could be something to do with the fact that their side came into government afterwards, so they escaped punishment?

It will be interesting to see what happens to the Red Shirt leaders

Does anyone know what happened to the Red Shirt leader Thaksin, after he robbed the country blind and set the nation ablaze? I have not heard of him serving jail sentences right now (I could be wrong) if so, seems a bit unfair to me that he can compromise and destroy a nation and get away scott free.

Of course Thaksin should be behind bars.......... so should Abhisit and most definately Suthep for their involvlemtn in the murder of innocent civilians and reporters, along with the yellow leaders for their crimes committed in 2008.

Great! It's' settled then... Lock EVERYBODY up and let the country run itself!

[lensta]

I just saw Jatuporn and other leaders on Thai TV, signing something, probably posting bail. Several of them had their Blackberries and iPhones. If they were really arrested, would they still be allowed to keep those?

In Thailand they can probably order a beer as well.

[TheBarbarian]

The authorities must be kidding themselves. Did they never went to university? Did they never demonstrate themselves? Protest became in my time most violent when leaders gave up. Certain things never change. I expect an orgy of violence in the next few days. After that they have to wait for the elections in 6 months or 15 months time to get the last laugh the,selves.

[BigBikeBKK]

I don't understand why these people are allowed to make comments as they have the right and second chance for the last word. Allowing them to say we will continue the fight can only mean one thing to the majority of the "protesters". I wonder if the protesters think they were doing the right thing and should continue?

They were doing the right thing and the struggle will continue. The civil rights movement in the US took over a century and was pushed forward by many great people and a few violent ones like the Black Panthers and the Weather Underground. I'm sure Thailand will be similar. As long as the wheel rolls forward!

Comparing violent red shirt mobs serving the interests of a convicted fugitive criminal to the Civil Rights Movement in the United States is quite disingenuous.

Send the red sheep home, lock up the red instigators for LIFE!

I'm not a fan of RED or YELLOW, but I don't recall the Yellows ever trying to burn the city down...

[virtualtraveller]

It's not over til the fat lady sings. See what's going on at Udon Thani city hall, the crackdown has unleashed a monster of dissatisfaction which will go underground and the only way to return peace is a change in those in power.

Confrontations where both sides have each other by the neck are excellent opportunities to force both sides into a peace agreement. The reds now seem defeated in this battle but not the overall war and now have no reason to agree to any roadmap or long-term peace overtures. They will simply go away and regroup, learning from this lesson, while the govt itself might never recover in the long term having apparently murdered 50 people.

So, what next? A low level terrorist campaign against the govt that is based more on angst and revenge rather than forcing an election, therefore becoming unsolveable, an 'unseen' enemy which you can't negotiate with, and eventually an election which hands power to an equally terrible lot without either side doing anything to resolve the underlying problems and finding common agreement on rules for clean political engagement.

The PT are going to virtually bring parliamentary sessions to a standstill with their stubborn insistence that the govt take responsibility, meanwhile the investigation and charge against the instigators in this will not be able to proceed so long as it's queueing up behind the prosecution of 'yellow leaders'.

Good old Thailand, don't find solutions, just fight and find lose-lose options.

[caf]

Does anyone know what happened to the Yellow Shirt leaders, after they closed the airport in Dec 2008? I have not heard of any of them serving jail sentences right now (I could be wrong) if so, seems a bit unfair to me that they can close down the airport and get away scott free. Or could be something to do with the fact that their side came into government afterwards, so they escaped punishment?

It will be interesting to see what happens to the Red Shirt leaders

1.) The Yellow went in a pacific demonstration to the airport that the local authorities decide themselves to close

the YS were in the airport building for 9 days, and the only thing they took was a couple of liters of ice cream that would have gone bad anyway. They did not touch any of the duty free goods, alcohol or cigarette that were left ungarded while they were "occupying" the airport. After they left, nothing was missing, nothing was damaged.

2.) If the YS did not confront the gouvernment at the time, which by the way was not Abhisit, today Thaksin would still be looting the country in total impunity. I am not sure the way they did was the best, I am not a YS Supporter but I must admit that it probably was the only way to get rid of Thaksin and his cohorts of hooligans. See what they can do today to attempt to regain control of the country

3.) How can you now try to compare the killing and destruction orchestrated by this egomaniac and his troops with a pacific demonstration that liberated the country?

If you think the local authorities made the decision to close the airport you are very naive. And photos show more than a few liters of ice cream looted or damaged. What planet are you on? The airport demo was not peaceful. Ah yes I se now you're in the Pacific Ocean.

[lensta]

Does anyone know what happened to the Yellow Shirt leaders, after they closed the airport in Dec 2008? I have not heard of any of them serving jail sentences right now (I could be wrong) if so, seems a bit unfair to me that they can close down the airport and get away scott free. Or could be something to do with the fact that their side came into government afterwards, so they escaped punishment?

It will be interesting to see what happens to the Red Shirt leaders

PLEASE do a bit of research on the topic before posting! (The same goes for Gymboy)

you only ever take into account whatever furthers your cause!!!

No, I just know what I write about (mostly )

The leaders of the PAD turned themselves in quickly after the arrest warrants were issued. Starting with Chamlong and another who spent some time in jail before bail. The rest turned themselves in as soon as Chamlong was released. They are fighting the charges in court. They are entitled to a trial by Thai law. That means that delays etc are part of the process. It took YEARS to get the first conviction on Thaksin. It took years to get the second conviction in the assets seizure trial.

Unlike Thaksin they have not run away nor do i think they will. The charges against them are FAR more minor than the charges against the redshirt leaders.

This isn't about the PAD. Their trials will be VERY interesting, certainly! They aren't being tried for capitol crimes that can lead to a needle in the arm.

This is about the red shirt leaders that do have arrest warrants on them for capitol crimes! The ones that turned themselves in are probably going to be exempt from the needle but maybe not.

jdinasia, just wondering if you have heard where Sondhi is at the moment??

[maxjay]

He called for the reds to start dispersing and leaving the rally site via routes leading to the National Stadium, where the government had busses waiting to take them home.

It ain't over till the fat lady sings !!!

There are a lot of very unhappy Thai people now.

I wonder what will happen next.

Well, for one thing...Udon Thani Provincial Hall is on fire.

[caf]

So-called democracy has not worked in Thailand, will not work in Thailand as at every step money power is at work, as it is in the so-called advanced societies where the corporate behemoths have taken full control. It is a joke to talk about democracy. First thing is to teach, give real education as to what is the value of human life, teach respect for all life, AHIMSA and practice this. Practice is more important than precept. These men who have been terrorizing Bangkok's people for weeks are not sober, thoughtful, sincere citizens, they are indeed criminal terrorists.

But, I expect the leaders to get bail promptly and most like never go to jail at all. Firm, strong, leadership is required, but in Thailand I have not seen this in my 26 years living here.

Seconded. Where are the other posters who have experience and have thought this through.

[virtualtraveller]

The red leaders have at least garnered some respect by turning themselves in, 4 days later than their pledge, but it shows they stand by their word, and now face detention without immediate bail trial.

[lilkitty]

SKY: Thai army declares end to operation against protesters, says troops are in control of capital http://bit.ly/902hB1

Have the Thai army got Mr Bean assessing the situation? In control of the capital? LOL! The Reds haven't even started their fight yet. End the operation? Why? Do the army think they've won because they've arrested some key Red leaders? Do they think the Reds only listen to these leaders in custody? They still don't know the Reds are fighting for a cause. How blind can a government and the Yellow movement be?

Half the city is burning. Riots and shooting everywhere. Has anyone noticed that the women and children are still at Rajprasong? CNN reported shooting still going on there. But it's great news to see the army is back in control of the capital.

[AgentSmith]

All the reds: time to shut up now you terrorists losers, I just wish they take the IP address of every red sympathizer farang and deport him! red farangs OUT OF THAILAND NOW !

mmm Jitta, maybe you should talk to your MP and see if he/she is willing to put your idea into action, or better still, you could try to get elected in the next elections and do it yourself.

You are just another sad keyboard warrior with a big mouth when you are hiding behind a computer.

As if he's the only one not able to hide his resentment for more than a few lines. A lot of people here 'debate' with as much emotion as well as common sense. And aren't we all anonymous keyboard 'warriors' here? Please always look in the mirror first before you have such harsh judgments for fellow humans.

As for the topic itself: I am very relieved there seem to be an end at the protests in sight. Let's hope it all goes well the next few days so Bangkok can revert to its normal state ASAP.