Livinginexile Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) Hi Trendsetters, Im working in Qatar at the moment and I have the oportunity to buy a near new BMW S1000RR at a very cheep price! I would like to send it back to Thailand but the import tax would not make it viable. I'm thinking maybe I could strip it down! Most of the smaller parts I could bring back in suitcases as I travel back and forth very often. Only the engine & frame would need to be shipped. Has anyone out there done the same thing? does anyone know what the tax would be on importing a "secondhand" engine and frame? Edited October 15, 2010 by Livinginexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Your probably better off in the motorbike forum. I'm currently in the States and would love to ship a brand new Vulcan back. Piece by piece may be your best option. I know the Vulcan is double the price in LOS. Good luck matey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 You can import it as spares no problem but then you will have big problems registering it legitimately as you would not have the neccessary import/customs papers. A guy I know imported a Mercedes this way and got into enough trouble that he considered it a good idea to leave the country for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 a mate had a bike built in thailand, then stripped down and him and his friends took it to vietnam (he lives there) in pieces, he carried the frame through on his shoulder, had to pay a few dollars to the customs guy as a backhander. I know this doesn't really help with thai customs but just let you know its possible to get it through the airline scanners etc. The engine though was shipped separately via a friend, it was put with some other stuff and managed to wangle its way through customs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 //MOVED// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Sorry for hijacking the thread. What about a Thai importing a bike directly from a dealer overseas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginexile Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 You can import it as spares no problem but then you will have big problems registering it legitimately as you would not have the neccessary import/customs papers. A guy I know imported a Mercedes this way and got into enough trouble that he considered it a good idea to leave the country for a while. Yes, good point! With no purchase papers how can one register the bike! Can a backhander settle this at the motor department? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiascharlie Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Unless you want to spend a lot of money and do a lot of paperwork jusy buy a bike here with a greenbook and proper registration .You will save yourself a huge waste of time and money . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) My 2c Contact BMW Thailand tell them you have a BMW in Qatar which you like very much (give serial number)but have been transfered to Thailand and can they import it for you and get it registered. If it is cheaper then do it. have you discovered how much to get it out of Qatar? OR contact Red baron and ask same question. Edited October 15, 2010 by VocalNeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 You can import it as spares no problem but then you will have big problems registering it legitimately as you would not have the neccessary import/customs papers. A guy I know imported a Mercedes this way and got into enough trouble that he considered it a good idea to leave the country for a while. Yes, good point! With no purchase papers how can one register the bike! Can a backhander settle this at the motor department? I found a lovely 1300 Superfour for 200k in Kanchanaburi. It only had invoice papers. My wifes friend at the local Dept of Land & Transport said that it would be impossible to register locally. Another friend told me that for 100k it would be possible to get a proper green book in Bangkok. I know for a fact he has done this for several big bikes but his did come with all the proper import documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 l would say your wasting your time and end up having all sorts of problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsacbob Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 You can import it as spares no problem but then you will have big problems registering it legitimately as you would not have the neccessary import/customs papers. A guy I know imported a Mercedes this way and got into enough trouble that he considered it a good idea to leave the country for a while. Yes, good point! With no purchase papers how can one register the bike! Can a backhander settle this at the motor department? I found a lovely 1300 Superfour for 200k in Kanchanaburi. It only had invoice papers. My wifes friend at the local Dept of Land & Transport said that it would be impossible to register locally. Another friend told me that for 100k it would be possible to get a proper green book in Bangkok. I know for a fact he has done this for several big bikes but his did come with all the proper import documents. Everthing can be done if you are willing to pay the right money, my local dirt bike shop has been importing bikes in parts for years and has offered to do the same for a bike i am chasing at the moment, 100% legit as far as anything can be in LOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 You can import it as spares no problem but then you will have big problems registering it legitimately as you would not have the neccessary import/customs papers. A guy I know imported a Mercedes this way and got into enough trouble that he considered it a good idea to leave the country for a while. Yes, good point! With no purchase papers how can one register the bike! Can a backhander settle this at the motor department? I found a lovely 1300 Superfour for 200k in Kanchanaburi. It only had invoice papers. My wifes friend at the local Dept of Land & Transport said that it would be impossible to register locally. Another friend told me that for 100k it would be possible to get a proper green book in Bangkok. I know for a fact he has done this for several big bikes but his did come with all the proper import documents. Everthing can be done if you are willing to pay the right money, my local dirt bike shop has been importing bikes in parts for years and has offered to do the same for a bike i am chasing at the moment, 100% legit as far as anything can be in LOS I'd agree with you that, as with most things in Thailand, you can get the registration at a price. What the OP needs to know is if he can find 'trustworthy' people to arrange the registration and whether the 100k bht needed for a big bike import is still less than going legit and buying a bike in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 You can import it as spares no problem but then you will have big problems registering it legitimately as you would not have the neccessary import/customs papers. A guy I know imported a Mercedes this way and got into enough trouble that he considered it a good idea to leave the country for a while. Yes, good point! With no purchase papers how can one register the bike! Can a backhander settle this at the motor department? I found a lovely 1300 Superfour for 200k in Kanchanaburi. It only had invoice papers. My wifes friend at the local Dept of Land & Transport said that it would be impossible to register locally. Another friend told me that for 100k it would be possible to get a proper green book in Bangkok. I know for a fact he has done this for several big bikes but his did come with all the proper import documents. No chance to make this bike pass todays Euro, Calif or LOS emision tests. So no chance to make it legally. Possible to pay to pass, and you might get away with it for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 You can import it as spares no problem but then you will have big problems registering it legitimately as you would not have the neccessary import/customs papers. A guy I know imported a Mercedes this way and got into enough trouble that he considered it a good idea to leave the country for a while. Yes, good point! With no purchase papers how can one register the bike! Can a backhander settle this at the motor department? I found a lovely 1300 Superfour for 200k in Kanchanaburi. It only had invoice papers. My wifes friend at the local Dept of Land & Transport said that it would be impossible to register locally. Another friend told me that for 100k it would be possible to get a proper green book in Bangkok. I know for a fact he has done this for several big bikes but his did come with all the proper import documents. Everthing can be done if you are willing to pay the right money, my local dirt bike shop has been importing bikes in parts for years and has offered to do the same for a bike i am chasing at the moment, 100% legit as far as anything can be in LOS Just not true.. If the original imported screwed up, or theres missing paperwork, it can be impossible to do it legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pash Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 You can import it as spares no problem but then you will have big problems registering it legitimately as you would not have the neccessary import/customs papers. A guy I know imported a Mercedes this way and got into enough trouble that he considered it a good idea to leave the country for a while. Yes, good point! With no purchase papers how can one register the bike! Can a backhander settle this at the motor department? I found a lovely 1300 Superfour for 200k in Kanchanaburi. It only had invoice papers. My wifes friend at the local Dept of Land & Transport said that it would be impossible to register locally. Another friend told me that for 100k it would be possible to get a proper green book in Bangkok. I know for a fact he has done this for several big bikes but his did come with all the proper import documents. No chance to make this bike pass todays Euro, Calif or LOS emision tests. So no chance to make it legally. Possible to pay to pass, and you might get away with it for years. The only valid or applicable tests are the LoS. The others have no bearing. As the bike is being assembled here there is no necessity to for emission tests unless one tries to then legitimise the bike 100%. This bike importation methid has been done by many people for many years. It is possible. That was the answer to the original post question. Read the formula for the duty payable on importation and you will see it is financially worth it using the OP's import strategy and you could then bring in the motor / frame seperately but legitimately if that appealed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWPattaya Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) I have a friend here with an old Sunbeam. He could never get it registered so only rides it near his house. I sold my last bike in the UK before I lived here as importing it would have been too costly. Even bringing it in as spares may be a problem as they may impose tax when you go through customs. Personally I would suggest forget the idea. Edited October 17, 2010 by BWPattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visions Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I found a lovely 1300 Superfour for 200k in Kanchanaburi. It only had invoice papers. My wifes friend at the local Dept of Land & Transport said that it would be impossible to register locally. Another friend told me that for 100k it would be possible to get a proper green book in Bangkok. I know for a fact he has done this for several big bikes but his did come with all the proper import documents. No chance to make this bike pass todays Euro, Calif or LOS emision tests. So no chance to make it legally. Possible to pay to pass, and you might get away with it for years. The only valid or applicable tests are the LoS. The others have no bearing. As the bike is being assembled here there is no necessity to for emission tests unless one tries to then legitimise the bike 100%. This bike importation methid has been done by many people for many years. It is possible. That was the answer to the original post question. Read the formula for the duty payable on importation and you will see it is financially worth it using the OP's import strategy and you could then bring in the motor / frame seperately but legitimately if that appealed.. But what you are forgetting (or dont know) is that the bike needs the emission pass BEFORE can be registered. Untill you hav ethat bit of paper it is not possiblke to register the bike. The bike age is based on when FIRST registered in Thailand. IE a bike first registered in 2010 must meet/pass current 2010 regulations even if it is a 1980s manufactured bike.. If you turn up with a pass certificate for an older bike it is obvious that it is fake...unless you can prove there have been modifications done to pass the test legitely. From what I can understand ..that is impossible to achieve. Why you think Honda phased out the CBR150 and Phantom.....because they couldnt meet the current regulations. If Honda cannot achieve that I doubt any individual can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjke Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Im working in Qatar at the moment and I have the oportunity to buy a near new BMW S1000RR at a very cheep price! is that opportunity for the cheap bike also from a farang owner who even doesn't know it's being sold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobaan Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 We all know about the outrageous levels of import tax . I recently heard this : Thailand and Singapoure are both members of ASEAN. If one would get a bike into Singapoure (which supposedly is easier and less costly-I do not know this for a fact), register it there and than one could import the bike to Thailand (from an ASEAN member state )a only 7 % import duty. Has anyone ever heard about this or even done it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 No chance to make this bike pass todays Euro, Calif or LOS emision tests. So no chance to make it legally. Possible to pay to pass, and you might get away with it for years. The only valid or applicable tests are the LoS. The others have no bearing. As the bike is being assembled here there is no necessity to for emission tests unless one tries to then legitimise the bike 100%. This bike importation methid has been done by many people for many years. It is possible. That was the answer to the original post question. Read the formula for the duty payable on importation and you will see it is financially worth it using the OP's import strategy and you could then bring in the motor / frame seperately but legitimately if that appealed.. I fail to see why you would spend alot of money buying and importing a bike if you could not then be 100% legit. Or am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 We all know about the outrageous levels of import tax . I recently heard this : Thailand and Singapoure are both members of ASEAN. If one would get a bike into Singapoure (which supposedly is easier and less costly-I do not know this for a fact), register it there and than one could import the bike to Thailand (from an ASEAN member state )a only 7 % import duty. Has anyone ever heard about this or even done it? Must be MADE in ASEAN to avoid 80% importduty. Excice tax approx 30% in addition pluss 7% VAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 But what you are forgetting (or dont know) is that the bike needs the emission pass BEFORE can be registered. Untill you hav ethat bit of paper it is not possiblke to register the bike. The bike age is based on when FIRST registered in Thailand. IE a bike first registered in 2010 must meet/pass current 2010 regulations even if it is a 1980s manufactured bike.. If you turn up with a pass certificate for an older bike it is obvious that it is fake...unless you can prove there have been modifications done to pass the test legitely. From what I can understand ..that is impossible to achieve. Why you think Honda phased out the CBR150 and Phantom.....because they couldnt meet the current regulations. If Honda cannot achieve that I doubt any individual can. unfortunately so true. bringing in parts to build a bike is low duty and simple. Getting a spec to pass thai tests is for this bike close to impossible. So no legal plate/book. then whats the point of having a cheap bike you can not use? Fines for riding bike on public roads without plate/book was increased to 10.000 baht few months ago. In addition they take the bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 No chance to make this bike pass todays Euro, Calif or LOS emision tests. So no chance to make it legally. Possible to pay to pass, and you might get away with it for years. The only valid or applicable tests are the LoS. The others have no bearing. As the bike is being assembled here there is no necessity to for emission tests unless one tries to then legitimise the bike 100%. This bike importation methid has been done by many people for many years. It is possible. That was the answer to the original post question. Read the formula for the duty payable on importation and you will see it is financially worth it using the OP's import strategy and you could then bring in the motor / frame seperately but legitimately if that appealed.. I fail to see why you would spend alot of money buying and importing a bike if you could not then be 100% legit. Or am I missing something? Calif , Euro IV and LOS emission tests all have bearing, cause if the bike has passed Euro IV or Calif it will pass LOS test. sourcing a bike able to pass any of them saves 50-150 k baht on mods and testing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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