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Democrat party accuses Thaksin of making misleading comments

BANGKOK, 15 October 2010 (NNT) - The Democrat Party has retorted Thaksin Shinawatra’s statement in connection with the release of Aung San Su Kyi, saying the comment is misleading.

In light of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra’s statement, made after the release of Aung San Su Kyi by the Burmese junta, saying the release of political prisoners was a positive sign of the junta regime’s inclination to work towards reconciliation and true justice in the society, Democrat MP Attaporn Ponlaboot hit back at the former premier. The MP said if Thaksin really meant what he had said—agreeing with the fight for human rights and democracy in Burma-- why then did he not ask the Burmese junta government to release Su Kyi when the former premier was in power?

Thaksin has now revealed his true colors by riding on Aung San Su Kyi’s coattails when, in fact, he is totally different from the Burmese fighter for democracy, Attaporn added.

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Democrats Advise Thaksin to Follow Aung San Suu Kyi's Example

A a number of Democrat Party members have criticized former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra for attempting to gain media attention from the release of Myanmar's Aung San Suu Kyi.

Fugitive and former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra recently isSuued a statement, congratulating Myanmar's Aung San Suu Kyi on her freedom after spending 15 of the last 21 years in detention.

The statement also said that the Burmese junta made the right decision despite it being long overdue and that he hopes that more political prisoners will be released soon.

The statement also mentioned Thailand, saying that Suu Kyi's release would most likely improve human rights conditions and reinforce the democratic movement in the region, especially in Thailand, where the people long for democracy and social justice.

Thaksin also wrote in his statement that the release of the jailed red shirt leaders would be the starting point for national reconciliation and a way to bring about true social justice.

Personal Spokesperson for the Democrat Party Leader Thepthai Senpong also offered his congratulations to Suu Kyi upon her release, saying he believes this is a positive sign for Burmese politics.

Thepthai added that all politicians should follow the example set by Suu Kyi, especially Thaksin, who needs to follow the rule of law.

Meanwhile, MP Attaporn Pollabutr from the Democrat Party also asked about Thaksin, saying if the former PM was really serious about improving human rights conditions and bringing democracy to the country then he should have demanded the release of Suu Kyi during his term as prime minister.

Attaporn added that instead, Thaksin was working with the Burmese junta for his own business interests.

The MP strongly criticized his statement, calling it nothing more than a lie aimed at gaining media attention from Suu Kyi's release.

Attaporn also taunted Thaksin, saying that if he was half as great a person as Suu Kyi, he would not be in an exile as he is now.

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Does beg the question, when last did Thaksin make a completely true statement?

Circa 1995 maybe? Oh, that was when he promised to get the traffic in Bangkok fixed.

Actually, I think he worked that one out. That traffic was very light on May 20 and 21 this year.

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Does beg the question, when last did Thaksin make a completely true statement?

Circa 1995 maybe? Oh, that was when he promised to get the traffic in Bangkok fixed.

Actually, I think he worked that one out. That traffic was very light on May 20 and 21 this year.

Now that would be the ultimate in political spin I think. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Thaksin Accepts Reasons for Detaining Suu Kyi

The Irrawaddy - December 13, 2004

Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra says he understands why the Burmese government continues to hold opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi under house arrest.

Speaking in his weekly radio address, Thaksin said he found the reasons given by the Rangoon government for Suu Kyi’s continued detention “reasonable enough and convincing.”

Thaksin raised the issue of Suu Ky’s detention when he met the Burmese leader Sr-Gen Than Shwe during the Buddhist conference in Rangoon last week. He said Than Shwe had told him Suu Kyi remained under house arrest “because the last three times that (she) has been released it would always lead to difficulties.”

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Fugitive and former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra recently issued a statement, congratulating Myanmar's Aung San Suu Kyi on her freedom after spending 15 of the last 21 years in detention.

The statement also said that the Burmese junta made the right decision

and he sent a completely different signal earlier....

Thaksin Accepts Reasons for Detaining Suu Kyi

The Irrawaddy - December 13, 2004

Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra says he understands why the Burmese government continues to hold opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi under house arrest.

Speaking in his weekly radio address, Thaksin said he found the reasons given by the Rangoon government for Suu Kyi’s continued detention “reasonable enough and convincing.”

Thaksin raised the issue of Suu Ky’s detention when he met the Burmese leader Sr-Gen Than Shwe during the Buddhist conference in Rangoon last week. He said Than Shwe had told him Suu Kyi remained under house arrest “because the last three times that (she) has been released it would always lead to difficulties.”

Thaksin, speaking on Thai radio following his return from Burma, noted that “there was always political violence and turmoil following (the) two or three previous releases of Aung San Suu Kyi.”

Thaksin also said he thought it “necessary for Myanmar’s government to have political stability

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Fugitive and former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra recently issued a statement, congratulating Myanmar's Aung San Suu Kyi on her freedom after spending 15 of the last 21 years in detention.

The statement also said that the Burmese junta made the right decision

and he sent a completely different signal earlier....

Thaksin Accepts Reasons for Detaining Suu Kyi

The Irrawaddy - December 13, 2004

Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra says he understands why the Burmese government continues to hold opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi under house arrest.

Speaking in his weekly radio address, Thaksin said he found the reasons given by the Rangoon government for Suu Kyi’s continued detention “reasonable enough and convincing.”

Thaksin raised the issue of Suu Ky’s detention when he met the Burmese leader Sr-Gen Than Shwe during the Buddhist conference in Rangoon last week. He said Than Shwe had told him Suu Kyi remained under house arrest “because the last three times that (she) has been released it would always lead to difficulties.”

Thaksin, speaking on Thai radio following his return from Burma, noted that “there was always political violence and turmoil following (the) two or three previous releases of Aung San Suu Kyi.”

Thaksin also said he thought it “necessary for Myanmar’s government to have political stability

I have commented elsewhere on this.The comments made by Thaksin in 2004, sickening though they are, (his latest comments are just sanctimonious) are not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment - ruling politicians, feudalists,aristocrats, senior military and corporate.A key strand is that Aung San Suu Kyi is not really Burmese at all (i.e doesn't understand Burmese culture) and that democracy is in any case a chimera.Politicians are corrupt and only the army can provide integrity and security.Essentially for these delightful people Burma provided a vision of Thailand as they would dream of - a thuggish, Buddhist, army dominated totalitarian state (sustained by a fairytale), where the people knew their place (and those who objected were cut down violently).

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Fugitive and former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra recently issued a statement, congratulating Myanmar's Aung San Suu Kyi on her freedom after spending 15 of the last 21 years in detention.

The statement also said that the Burmese junta made the right decision

and he sent a completely different signal earlier....

Thaksin Accepts Reasons for Detaining Suu Kyi

The Irrawaddy - December 13, 2004

Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra says he understands why the Burmese government continues to hold opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi under house arrest.

Speaking in his weekly radio address, Thaksin said he found the reasons given by the Rangoon government for Suu Kyi’s continued detention “reasonable enough and convincing.”

Thaksin raised the issue of Suu Ky’s detention when he met the Burmese leader Sr-Gen Than Shwe during the Buddhist conference in Rangoon last week. He said Than Shwe had told him Suu Kyi remained under house arrest “because the last three times that (she) has been released it would always lead to difficulties.”

Thaksin, speaking on Thai radio following his return from Burma, noted that “there was always political violence and turmoil following (the) two or three previous releases of Aung San Suu Kyi.”

Thaksin also said he thought it “necessary for Myanmar’s government to have political stability

I have commented elsewhere on this.The comments made by Thaksin in 2004, sickening though they are, (his latest comments are just sanctimonious) are not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment - ruling politicians, feudalists,aristocrats, senior military and corporate.A key strand is that Aung San Suu Kyi is not really Burmese at all (i.e doesn't understand Burmese culture) and that democracy is in any case a chimera.Politicians are corrupt and only the army can provide integrity and security.Essentially for these delightful people Burma provided a vision of Thailand as they would dream of - a thuggish, Buddhist, army dominated totalitarian state (sustained by a fairytale), where the people knew their place (and those who objected were cut down violently).

What you write is a vision that both Thaksin in power and those who overthrew him both could apsire to or at least understand, and at one time share together in harmony. Different sides of a coin now though. The difference now of course is that Thaksin is out of power and hence rejects the notion as he is now one of those to know their place unlike those previously ejected by coups. It is easy to be on top doing the doing the oppresing whether it be through a totalitarian state or bastardized democratic one.

Of course Thaksin is Aung San Suu Kyi and his alluding to similarities is ludicrous as are the responses to it. She deserves more respect from all.

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Beware of any country, political party or organization of political party with the name: Democratic in it. They seldom are...

But the DP is right of course. thailand does have freedom of speech, that is why hundreds of people are arrested on computer crimes acts, or lese majesty charges. There are no political prisoners, that is why the government under the leadership of the DP have blocked websites as Politicial Prisoners Thailand and everything is great in the country.

That is of course when you are rich, vote DP and kiss up with generals. The same generals that interfere in soldier;s family lives by intruding and infringing on their privacy. Their phone calls and internet are monitored even when they are not under suspicion of a crime. In a matter of fact in Burma there is more freedom for soldiers.

At least under Thaksin we could write about it on the internet or comment on it on community radios. No such freedom anymore in the Kingdom of Thailand, soon to be renamed Democratic People's Kingdom of Thailand or something like that.

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Beware of any country, political party or organization of political party with the name: Democratic in it. They seldom are...

But the DP is right of course. thailand does have freedom of speech, that is why hundreds of people are arrested on computer crimes acts, or lese majesty charges. There are no political prisoners, that is why the government under the leadership of the DP have blocked websites as Politicial Prisoners Thailand and everything is great in the country.

That is of course when you are rich, vote DP and kiss up with generals. The same generals that interfere in soldier;s family lives by intruding and infringing on their privacy. Their phone calls and internet are monitored even when they are not under suspicion of a crime. In a matter of fact in Burma there is more freedom for soldiers.

At least under Thaksin we could write about it on the internet or comment on it on community radios. No such freedom anymore in the Kingdom of Thailand, soon to be renamed Democratic People's Kingdom of Thailand or something like that.

Mythbuster is sometimes wrong, and it seems this is one of them. k. Thaksin started to pressure the local press into 'stop annoying me' suing some he didn't like for billions of THB. Of course that was in the good old Thai Rak Thai time when foreigners didn't count anyway and those accepting hand-outs should shut up. K. Thaksin didn't need 'democratic' in the countries name, it already had the T for ...... ;)

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Thaksin Accepts Reasons for Detaining Suu Kyi

The Irrawaddy - December 13, 2004

Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra says he understands why the Burmese government continues to hold opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi under house arrest.

Speaking in his weekly radio address, Thaksin said he found the reasons given by the Rangoon government for Suu Kyi's continued detention "reasonable enough and convincing."

Thaksin raised the issue of Suu Ky's detention when he met the Burmese leader Sr-Gen Than Shwe during the Buddhist conference in Rangoon last week. He said Than Shwe had told him Suu Kyi remained under house arrest "because the last three times that (she) has been released it would always lead to difficulties."

What a transparent joke Thaksin is! Any chance to secure a possible way to get closer to Thailand. Cambodia is out - no-one wants Laos and his only other hope is where he has already sent substantial 'assets' being Burma. "Brown-nose" the military and ride up on his usual cheap political slimy way on such a wonderful woman. Are there no depths this convicted egoistic criminal will not sink to?

As a further example from another topic...

"..In a related development, fugitive ex-prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra issued a statement calling on the government to release “political prisoners” likening the jailing of red-shirts in Thailand to the situation in Burma, where pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu Yi was freed on Saturday. Thaksin’s statement was released by his legal adviser Noppadon Patama."

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Fugitive and former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra recently issued a statement, congratulating Myanmar's Aung San Suu Kyi on her freedom after spending 15 of the last 21 years in detention.

The statement also said that the Burmese junta made the right decision

and he sent a completely different signal earlier....

Thaksin Accepts Reasons for Detaining Suu Kyi

The Irrawaddy - December 13, 2004

Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra says he understands why the Burmese government continues to hold opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi under house arrest.

Speaking in his weekly radio address, Thaksin said he found the reasons given by the Rangoon government for Suu Kyi's continued detention "reasonable enough and convincing."

Thaksin raised the issue of Suu Ky's detention when he met the Burmese leader Sr-Gen Than Shwe during the Buddhist conference in Rangoon last week. He said Than Shwe had told him Suu Kyi remained under house arrest "because the last three times that (she) has been released it would always lead to difficulties."

Thaksin, speaking on Thai radio following his return from Burma, noted that "there was always political violence and turmoil following (the) two or three previous releases of Aung San Suu Kyi."

Thaksin also said he thought it "necessary for Myanmar's government to have political stability

I have commented elsewhere on this.The comments made by Thaksin in 2004, sickening though they are, (his latest comments are just sanctimonious) are not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment - ruling politicians, feudalists,aristocrats, senior military and corporate.A key strand is that Aung San Suu Kyi is not really Burmese at all (i.e doesn't understand Burmese culture) and that democracy is in any case a chimera.Politicians are corrupt and only the army can provide integrity and security.Essentially for these delightful people Burma provided a vision of Thailand as they would dream of - a thuggish, Buddhist, army dominated totalitarian state (sustained by a fairytale), where the people knew their place (and those who objected were cut down violently).

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I have commented elsewhere on this.The comments made by Thaksin in 2004, sickening though they are, (his latest comments are just sanctimonious) are not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment - ruling politicians, feudalists,aristocrats, senior military and corporate.A key strand is that Aung San Suu Kyi is not really Burmese at all (i.e doesn't understand Burmese culture) and that democracy is in any case a chimera.Politicians are corrupt and only the army can provide integrity and security.Essentially for these delightful people Burma provided a vision of Thailand as they would dream of - a thuggish, Buddhist, army dominated totalitarian state (sustained by a fairytale), where the people knew their place (and those who objected were cut down violently).

What you do here (maybe unwittingly) is (trying to) diminish the magnitude of k. Thaksin's 'sickening comments' by relating them to 'not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment'. That may be true, but should not be used as an excuse for Thaksin's behaviour. It's like a thief who upon being apprehended says 'well, others are doing it also'.

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I also love this headline :

Thaksin Accepts Reasons for Detaining Suu Kyi

<deleted> has it got to do with Thaksin and why would anyone want his opinion? Desperate PR gathering from a convicted crim! ph34r.gif

Unless of course he wants to swap his tongue where his nose is right now with the Burmese Generals. whistling.gif

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I also love this headline :

Thaksin Accepts Reasons for Detaining Suu Kyi

<deleted> has it got to do with Thaksin and why would anyone want his opinion? Desperate PR gathering from a convicted crim! ph34r.gif

Unless of course he wants to swap his tongue where his nose is right now with the Burmese Generals. whistling.gif

It was from 2004. It just makes what he is saying now all the more ridiculous.

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I have commented elsewhere on this.The comments made by Thaksin in 2004, sickening though they are, (his latest comments are just sanctimonious) are not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment - ruling politicians, feudalists,aristocrats, senior military and corporate.A key strand is that Aung San Suu Kyi is not really Burmese at all (i.e doesn't understand Burmese culture) and that democracy is in any case a chimera.Politicians are corrupt and only the army can provide integrity and security.Essentially for these delightful people Burma provided a vision of Thailand as they would dream of - a thuggish, Buddhist, army dominated totalitarian state (sustained by a fairytale), where the people knew their place (and those who objected were cut down violently).

What you do here (maybe unwittingly) is (trying to) diminish the magnitude of k. Thaksin's 'sickening comments' by relating them to 'not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment'. That may be true, but should not be used as an excuse for Thaksin's behaviour. It's like a thief who upon being apprehended says 'well, others are doing it also'.

See my earlier post about the ignore function.

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I have commented elsewhere on this.The comments made by Thaksin in 2004, sickening though they are, (his latest comments are just sanctimonious) are not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment - ruling politicians, feudalists,aristocrats, senior military and corporate.A key strand is that Aung San Suu Kyi is not really Burmese at all (i.e doesn't understand Burmese culture) and that democracy is in any case a chimera.Politicians are corrupt and only the army can provide integrity and security.Essentially for these delightful people Burma provided a vision of Thailand as they would dream of - a thuggish, Buddhist, army dominated totalitarian state (sustained by a fairytale), where the people knew their place (and those who objected were cut down violently).

What you do here (maybe unwittingly) is (trying to) diminish the magnitude of k. Thaksin's 'sickening comments' by relating them to 'not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment'. That may be true, but should not be used as an excuse for Thaksin's behaviour. It's like a thief who upon being apprehended says 'well, others are doing it also'.

See my earlier post about the ignore function.

See my earlier reply on you ignoring comments you don't like or can't refute.

PS I already have two on 'ignore', but see no need yet to put you there as well. Analyzing your posts on logic and fallacies is still interesting, but as it is starting to get predictable also a bit boring. Maybe you should put me on ignore, so you don't have to be bothered with my replies ?

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Thaksin Accepts Reasons for Detaining Suu Kyi

The Irrawaddy - December 13, 2004

Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra says he understands why the Burmese government continues to hold opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi under house arrest.

Speaking in his weekly radio address, Thaksin said he found the reasons given by the Rangoon government for Suu Kyi's continued detention "reasonable enough and convincing."

Thaksin raised the issue of Suu Ky's detention when he met the Burmese leader Sr-Gen Than Shwe during the Buddhist conference in Rangoon last week. He said Than Shwe had told him Suu Kyi remained under house arrest "because the last three times that (she) has been released it would always lead to difficulties."

Somtumtiger accepts reasons for Thaksin's clear mental instability, which is demonstrated on a daily basis.

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I have commented elsewhere on this.The comments made by Thaksin in 2004, sickening though they are, (his latest comments are just sanctimonious) are not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment - ruling politicians, feudalists,aristocrats, senior military and corporate.A key strand is that Aung San Suu Kyi is not really Burmese at all (i.e doesn't understand Burmese culture) and that democracy is in any case a chimera.Politicians are corrupt and only the army can provide integrity and security.Essentially for these delightful people Burma provided a vision of Thailand as they would dream of - a thuggish, Buddhist, army dominated totalitarian state (sustained by a fairytale), where the people knew their place (and those who objected were cut down violently).

What you do here (maybe unwittingly) is (trying to) diminish the magnitude of k. Thaksin's 'sickening comments' by relating them to 'not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment'. That may be true, but should not be used as an excuse for Thaksin's behaviour. It's like a thief who upon being apprehended says 'well, others are doing it also'.

Which is the classic red supporter/apologist/defender battle cry "the yellows blah blah blah so anything we do is justified". But, back on topic...Thaksin couldn't care less about Suu Kyi. I would guess his statement came directly from his lawyer / pr firm. I'd love to hear Amsterdam's reply to Thaksin's 2004 comments. I'd love to hear Thaksin comment on his 2004 comments. Neither will happen.

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Thaksin’s statement was released by his legal adviser Noppadon Patama."

Interesting to read today of Noppadon's conflicts with Pheu Thai Party Chairman Chavalit on a different issue with Chavalit dismissing Noppadon's claims as being not factual... and then later, Chavalit apologizing for his own separate claims as being misleading.

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Beware of any country, political party or organization of political party with the name: Democratic in it. They seldom are...

But the DP is right of course. thailand does have freedom of speech, that is why hundreds of people are arrested on computer crimes acts, or lese majesty charges. There are no political prisoners, that is why the government under the leadership of the DP have blocked websites as Politicial Prisoners Thailand and everything is great in the country.

That is of course when you are rich, vote DP and kiss up with generals. The same generals that interfere in soldier;s family lives by intruding and infringing on their privacy. Their phone calls and internet are monitored even when they are not under suspicion of a crime. In a matter of fact in Burma there is more freedom for soldiers.

At least under Thaksin we could write about it on the internet or comment on it on community radios. No such freedom anymore in the Kingdom of Thailand, soon to be renamed Democratic People's Kingdom of Thailand or something like that.

Mythbuster is sometimes wrong, and it seems this is one of them. k. Thaksin started to pressure the local press into 'stop annoying me' suing some he didn't like for billions of THB. Of course that was in the good old Thai Rak Thai time when foreigners didn't count anyway and those accepting hand-outs should shut up. K. Thaksin didn't need 'democratic' in the countries name, it already had the T for ...... ;)

Also it is much easier to spread lies and false propaganda now than it ever has been. With out some means of control we would quickly dive into anarchy.

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I have commented elsewhere on this.The comments made by Thaksin in 2004, sickening though they are, (his latest comments are just sanctimonious) are not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment - ruling politicians, feudalists,aristocrats, senior military and corporate.A key strand is that Aung San Suu Kyi is not really Burmese at all (i.e doesn't understand Burmese culture) and that democracy is in any case a chimera.Politicians are corrupt and only the army can provide integrity and security.Essentially for these delightful people Burma provided a vision of Thailand as they would dream of - a thuggish, Buddhist, army dominated totalitarian state (sustained by a fairytale), where the people knew their place (and those who objected were cut down violently).

What you do here (maybe unwittingly) is (trying to) diminish the magnitude of k. Thaksin's 'sickening comments' by relating them to 'not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment'. That may be true, but should not be used as an excuse for Thaksin's behaviour. It's like a thief who upon being apprehended says 'well, others are doing it also'.

See my earlier post about the ignore function.

jayboy

why do you waste our time with your posts. If you have some thing to say say it don't continually refer to other unknown threads. You make as much sense as you would if you were to put a kick me sign on in both English and Thai.

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I have commented elsewhere on this.The comments made by Thaksin in 2004, sickening though they are, (his latest comments are just sanctimonious) are not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment - ruling politicians, feudalists,aristocrats, senior military and corporate.A key strand is that Aung San Suu Kyi is not really Burmese at all (i.e doesn't understand Burmese culture) and that democracy is in any case a chimera.Politicians are corrupt and only the army can provide integrity and security.Essentially for these delightful people Burma provided a vision of Thailand as they would dream of - a thuggish, Buddhist, army dominated totalitarian state (sustained by a fairytale), where the people knew their place (and those who objected were cut down violently).

What you do here (maybe unwittingly) is (trying to) diminish the magnitude of k. Thaksin's 'sickening comments' by relating them to 'not untypical views of key elements in the Thai establishment'. That may be true, but should not be used as an excuse for Thaksin's behaviour. It's like a thief who upon being apprehended says 'well, others are doing it also'.

See my earlier post about the ignore function.

jayboy

why do you waste our time with your posts. If you have some thing to say say it don't continually refer to other unknown threads. You make as much sense as you would if you were to put a kick me sign on in both English and Thai.

My post was simply to advise someone who is irritated by my posts to use the ignore function.Feel free to do the same.

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