Application To Revoke Jatuporn's Bail Dropped: Thai Prosecutors

[webfact]

Application to revoke Jatuporn's bail dropped: prosecutors

By The Nation

The temporary release of Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Promphan will remain in effect on the ground for lacking cause to revoke his bail pending trial on terrorism charges, chief prosecutor Ruj Khuensuwan said on Thursday.

The Department of Special Investigation has sought to remand Jatuporn, arguing that he poses a threat to the safety of a state witness, Ruj said, adding the prosecution review decided against the DSI request after weighing evidence submitted by disputed parties.

"The prosecution will not seek to revoke Jatuporn's bail," he said, though reminding the suspect that he is under close watch and that his bail hinges on remaining on good behaviour.

-- The Nation 2010-12-02

[Thai at Heart]

Bailed pending terrorism trial.

I guess he is lucky he didn't do something really serious.

Edited December 2, 2010 by Thai at Heart

[whybother]

That's a pity.

[Buchholz]

Bailed pending terrorism trial.

I guess he is lucky he didn't do something really serious.

Reminds one of Godfather Komnah Po of Bang Saen. Granted bail after first degree murder.

on the ground for lacking cause to revoke his bail

One also wonders what more he could do to "lack cause."

Edited December 2, 2010 by Buchholz

[TAWP]

Maybe he claimed he had a video of the prosecutor...heck, *all* of them have done *something* that would look bad on video...so just claim you are in possession of it.

[Thai at Heart]

Maybe he claimed he had a video of the prosecutor...heck, *all* of them have done *something* that would look bad on video...so just claim you are in possession of it.

More than worth a try. 99% success rate probably.

[jdinasia]

Isn't he also out on bail from 2009? His actions in 2010 should be enough to revoke THAT bail, shouldn't it?

[siampolee]

Perverse as it is it proves that the current administration does respect democracy. One is led to wonder though if Jutaporn can or will be able to conform to civilised behaviour.

Possibly he may have a pressing appointment in a neighbouring country which may take a considerable length of time to complete.

Time alone will tell..

[Bagwan]

Apologies for drifting from the topic but what has happened to the moron backed up by 50 brave policemen who shot up an old couples refrigerator  in Ayutthaya? Has he been dealt with yet? 

[whybother]

Maybe the government have decided that his foot in mouth syndrome is more value to them than having him in jail.

[marquess]

Apologies for drifting from the topic but what has happened to the moron backed up by 50 brave policemen who shot up an old couples refrigerator  in Ayutthaya? Has he been dealt with yet? 

Probably not, like the Benz guy these thing are quietly forgotten! Except by the victim.

[Buchholz]

Apologies for drifting from the topic but what has happened to the moron backed up by 50 brave policemen who shot up an old couples refrigerator  in Ayutthaya? Has he been dealt with yet? 

Charges were filed on October 15, 2007 against Yongyuth.

Deputy Leader Of The People Power Party To Stand Trial For Attempted Murder, Former Thaksin Cabinet Minister and 7 Police Officers accused

I've not seen any reports as to the resolution of the case.

We know he's not in jail as of last March, because he was attending a meeting at Pheu Thai Party headquarters then, where planning for how to assist a Red Shirt rally was discussed:

Red shirts aim at victory in three days

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Red-shirts-aim-at-victory-in-three-days-30124296.html

[asiawatcher]

Isn't he also out on bail from 2009? His actions in 2010 should be enough to revoke THAT bail, shouldn't it?

Isn't he still claiming Parliamentary privilege or Diplomatic immunity or both. He is a shining example of a crook and a terrorist that should be made an example of but since he has a healthy bank account he could not explain, we can guess there have been a few more payments and not just about bail...

[animatic]

He poses a clear and present danger to all of Thailand.

Terrorism charges alone should suffice to lock him up.

Time somebody grows a pair....

Edited December 2, 2010 by animatic

[rubl]

Maybe the government have decided that his foot in mouth syndrome is more value to them than having him in jail.

Could be, but shouldn't be a consideration for the court. Personally I have other ideas, but I tend to respect a court's decision

[phiphidon]

Maybe the government have decided that his foot in mouth syndrome is more value to them than having him in jail.

Could be, but shouldn't be a consideration for the court. Personally I have other ideas, but I tend to respect a court's decision

Oh, do tell, otherwise we'll never know if your ideas are just suppositions..........

edit sorry, forgot to add the wry

Edited December 2, 2010 by phiphidon

[Buchholz]

Maybe the government have decided that his foot in mouth syndrome is more value to them than having him in jail.

Could be, but shouldn't be a consideration for the court. Personally I have other ideas, but I tend to respect a court's decision

A point of order is that it wasn't the court's decision. It was never submitted to them to consider for a judgment to be rendered.

The decision was made by the prosecuting attorney. AFAIK, that position doesn't necessitate the same consideration afforded to the courts when it comes to discussion.

[webfact]

RED LEADERS

No reason seen to revoke Jatuporn's bail

By Kesinee Taengkhio

The Nation

The temporary release of Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Promphan - pending trial on terrorism charges - will remain in effect because prosecutors do not have a reason to revoke his bail, chief prosecutor Ruj Khuensuwan said yesterday.

The Department of Special Investigation had sought to remand Jatuporn, arguing he posed a threat to the safety of a state witness, Ruj said. The prosecution review decided against the DSI request after weighing evidence submitted by disputed parties.

"The prosecution will not seek to revoke Jatuporn's bail," he said, though reminding the suspect he is under close watch and that his bail hinges on remaining on good behaviour.

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday urged the red shirts to think things through before any future political action as the country would have to bear the consequences of their activities.

"The security authorities are obligated to ensure everything stays within legal limits and without any harmful effects to the country's revered institution," he said.

Abhisit was reacting to a red-shirt plan to reopen political schools, seen as a platform to fan anti-monarchy sentiment.

He reminded two factions within the red-shirt movement, one led by Somyos Prueksakasemsuk and another by Sombat Boonngarm-anong, to reconsider their action plans.

The Somyos faction calls on its supporters to put on black mourning dress throughout December, coinciding with the celebrations for His Majesty.

The Sombat faction will hold a public event on December 5 in defiance of the King's birthday.

"The reds should be mindful about peace, social order and the feelings of their fellow Thais," the prime minister said.

In regard to the planned rally by the People's Alliance for Democracy, he said he was trying to hold a meeting with PAD leaders before December 11.

"I have no intention of blocking a peaceful public assembly, but want to remind organisers to abide by the law," he said.

-- The Nation 2010-12-03

[Buchholz]

The temporary release of Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Promphan - pending trial on terrorism charges - will remain in effect because prosecutors do not have a reason to revoke his bail, chief prosecutor Ruj Khuensuwan said yesterday.

Hmmm.... Any conflict with what was said about the other Red Shirt Leaders NOT receiving bail last July?

Court denies bail for 11 detained Red Shirt leaders

BANGKOK, July 2 - Thailand's Criminal Court on Friday rejected a bid for bail for 11 detained anti-government Red Shirt leaders, citing concerns over their possible flight to evade prosecution, as the detainees face charges with severe punishment.

The court denied granting temporary release of the detained leaders saying the accused may escape as they face severe punishment, even the death penalty.

http://www.mcot.net/cfcustom/cache_page/73856.html

[SergeiY]

Maybe the government have decided that his foot in mouth syndrome is more value to them than having him in jail.

what is a "foot in mouth syndrome"?

btw. It wasn't a government decision but one by the courts. its called separation of powers. Or are you suggestion that the government has the control over the judges?

[whybother]

Maybe the government have decided that his foot in mouth syndrome is more value to them than having him in jail.

what is a "foot in mouth syndrome"?

btw. It wasn't a government decision but one by the courts. its called separation of powers. Or are you suggestion that the government has the control over the judges?

Actually, it was a decision by the prosecuters, not a decision by the judges.

[webfact]

DSI chief to submit another request for red-shirt leader Jatuporn's bail revocation on Dec 7 for threatening witness in terrorism case /TAN_Network

[webfact]

DSI Chief to Submit Another Request for Jatuporn's Bail Revocation

Department of Special Investigation Director-General Tarit Pengdit will submit another request to the prosecutor's office for the revocation of bail for red-shirt leader and Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Prompan on December 7. Tarit insists there is clear evidence to prove Jatuporn has been threatening red-shirt actor Methee Amornwuttikul, who is a witness in the group's terrorism case.

The prosecutor yesterday turned down the DSI's first request to cancel Jatuporn's bail.

-- Tan Network 2010-12-03

[Buchholz]

He was already a heavyweight in May

but he's certainly bulked up since his trim fighting weight in 2008

[Buchholz]

Tarit insists there is clear evidence to prove Jatuporn has been threatening red-shirt actor Methee Amornwuttikul, who is a witness in the group's terrorism case.

A post from the applicable thread at the time:

- most important - are the threat on his life for real or did just make it up?

I tend to believe they are probably real. For the simple reason that Jutaporn has now gone on record saying he "never called Methi."

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your perspective), this statement can be easily proven or disproven, and even the most inept idiot knows how easy it is for the police to pull phone records. And supposedly, Methi has already shown the DSI the log on his cell phone. So now we have Jutaporn almost certainly making a bald faced lie about his relationship and contact with this individual. I just don't see the impetus to lie if you aren't guilty.

What was said we don't know. But there is a high degree of probability that Jutaporn is lying in order to cover up whatever was said. That means, whatever was said was almost certainly something Jutaporn would rather not admit to.

Nobody ever said the red terrorist leaders were good liars.

an additional statement from Methee at the time was that the Red Leaders were all rewarded with large pay-offs, to which Jatuporn replied:

He also denied alleged involvement in skimming the donations. He said the amount was not Bt68 million as claimed, but it was actually "just Bt37 million".

Edited December 3, 2010 by Buchholz

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Bail Not Revoked Yet for Pheu Thai MP

The public prosecutor still has not revoked bail for red-shirt leader and Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Prompan, as requested by the Department of Special Investigation.

Prosecutor Ruj Kuansuwan stated his office has decided to turn down the request from the Department of Special Investigation or DSI to revoke bail for red-shirt leader and Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Prompan.

Jatuporn has been charged with terrorism for his involvement in the April and May protests by the red-shirt group.

The DSI made the request on the grounds that Jatuporn threatened another red-shirt member, Methee Amornwuttikul, whom the DSI has set aside as a witness in the cases against the red-shirts.

Jatuporn has denied that he made the threats.

The prosecutor said there are no grounds to revoke Jatuporn's bail at this time.

However, the office will keep a close watch on his activities, and if he is found to be involved in movements to create chaos, to threaten any witnesses, or to tamper with evidence, the prosecutor's office will submit the request to revoke his bail, to the Criminal Court.

-- Tan Network 2010-12-03

[Rimmer]

One inflammatory post also one quoted reply removed from view

[ianbaggie]

Maybe the government have decided that his foot in mouth syndrome is more value to them than having him in jail.

what is a "foot in mouth syndrome"?

btw. It wasn't a government decision but one by the courts. its called separation of powers. Or are you suggestion that the government has the control over the judges?

SergeiY - you of ALL people should know what foot in mouth syndrome is - you demonstrate it with every post!! It was a decision pushed forward by the incrimination act brought in by the Government through the CRES recommendation number 152!! therefore it IS a Government action - get your facts straight just once this century red shirt SergeiY

[SergeiY]

Maybe the government have decided that his foot in mouth syndrome is more value to them than having him in jail.

what is a "foot in mouth syndrome"?

btw. It wasn't a government decision but one by the courts. its called separation of powers. Or are you suggestion that the government has the control over the judges?

SergeiY - you of ALL people should know what foot in mouth syndrome is - you demonstrate it with every post!! It was a decision pushed forward by the incrimination act brought in by the Government through the CRES recommendation number 152!! therefore it IS a Government action - get your facts straight just once this century red shirt SergeiY

I still don't know what a "foot in mouth syndrome" is. Does that makes to a red shirt? (at least in your way of 'logic'?)

I guess its a figure of speech that english native maybe well understand, but it don't work out for me as non-native speaker. Because you maybe don't speak any other language than your native English you maybe don't know that such figures of speech doesn't translate well into other languages, at least not word for word and so i don't know what it mean.

One more question: That Jatuporn is out on bail and not in jail was/is a CRES decision? recommendation number 152? Do you have a link to more information about this?

And even if it came from the CRES, the CRES is still not the government.

[Pi Sek]

Sergiy, "foot in mouth syndrome" implicates that he opens his mouth before thinking what he's about to say... with cringeworthy results.

I'm afraid to say that my personal opinion of him is blighted much like the opinion of the Na Sarn community (where Jatuporn is from) in Surat Thani... that he is a putrid buffalo and not welcome anywhere near me. Many there know him pretty well, so I can't blame them - but it's a shame the Na Sarn community had to extend this to his family too. They're just beneficiaries of his immoral work (to differentiate his moral public interest work with his immoral work - I hope I don't have to recount examples of this, but I doubtlessly will be asked to!).