webfact Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Foreign manufacturers ripping off Thai brands By Petchanet Pratruangkrai The Nation Famous Thai energydrink and chillipaste brands are being pirated in Asia, hitting local manufacturers, the Intellectual Property Department says. The Red Bull brand has been copied in China, creating a loss of 1 million yuan (Bt4.5 million) from total sales of 1 billion yuan. Meanwhile, Mae Pranom chilli paste has been pirated in Malaysia. Directorgeneral Pajchima Tanasanti said manufacturers had complained to the department about violated intellectualproperty rights (IPR) and lost income because of the infringements. The department has submitted information to IPR enforcement agencies in China and Malaysia to investigate the cases. "Thai trademarks have been registered in other countries for products developed in their own markets, and foreign manufacturers have copied Thai products and registered them under the same trademarks, damaging Thai manufacturers' businesses," she said. To prevent violations, Pajchima urged Thai enterprises to register IPR overseas. She said many Thai brands were at high risk of being pirated, particฌularly rice brands because of Thai rice's reputation for high quality. Some businesses had falsely claimed their product was from Thailand and used Thai language on the packaging, misleading consumers and damaging the reputation of genuine Thai rice. The department will set up a special unit to monitor Thai products, services and innovations and protect them from IPR violations overseas, she said. -- The Nation 2010-12-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katasyd Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Oh the horror. Billionaire is losing a tad over 100,000 dollars a year. Better make funding cuts to the formula 1 team and sponsoring extreme sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetaroi Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Could this be karma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Maybe the director General could team up with Microsoft, Gucci, etc and put a stop to the pirating of goods. She could probably get some great ideas here in Thailand from several Thai cottage industries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teetersb Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Som Nam Na Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 'Man Bites Dog', now there's a story ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannatyne Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Pot calling the kettle 'black'!! That's news more suited to April 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moetownblues Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Piracy is rampant in Thailand everything from CD's, clothing handbags you name it. If someone copies a thai product the shock horror who could possibly do this. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 My ball, my ball....... Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeiY Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Could this be karma? Why would it be karma? Care to explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moetownblues Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Could this be karma? Why would it be karma? Care to explain? I think what he/she means is that what goes around comes around. Thais have been pirating things for years and now something of thier own is being pirated. Go to any market and you can buy Guchi for 100 baht or any of the latest DVD's even before they have been released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuffki Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Could this be karma? Why would it be karma? Care to explain? Because look at every corner, copy of something is sold(locally made). DVD, CD, Clothing. Also i do not know the history but i thought Red Bull was NOT a Thai company.Krating Daeng is a Thai company. Also i think locals have copied the logo. I once exported Kraeting Daeng tshirts with their logo and ran into trouble with Red Bull Australia for copyright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeiY Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Could this be karma? Why would it be karma? Care to explain? I think what he/she means is that what goes around comes around. Thais have been pirating things for years and now something of thier own is being pirated. Go to any market and you can buy Guchi for 100 baht or any of the latest DVD's even before they have been released. Well, they do something about and law enforcement working to reduce it. Except you are some xenophobe racist who stereotype all Thais and blame all for what a few have done there is no reason to say any Thai patent/copyright holder has lost his right to complain because of the other pirates. People make such silly and thoughtless comments will telling for sure here other stories how and unwelcome foreigners are or that they are always get ripped off. But that is probably only a karma like payback for this ugly mindset. All this CDs - everyone know that is a copy, but when it comes to food products like drinks and and seasoning products fake products bearing a much greater risk like the health of the costumer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piengrudee Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 An eye for an eye. How many of you use fake Windows XP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuffki Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 An eye for an eye. How many of you use fake Windows XP? Not me, i am with Apple But pretty much all hardware is sold either with copy windows or most of the software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 In the land of counterfeit everything, it's nice to see one of the bigger fish getting a fin eaten off by someone else. Turnabhout's fair play, karma, plaenty of ways to see this. One benefit is that this big fish, might instigate a stronger anti-counterfeiting pcuh with the powers that be, just because of this. ... nah. TIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 An eye for an eye. How many of you use fake Windows XP? Not me, i am with Apple But pretty much all hardware is sold either with copy windows or most of the software. It's not fake, but it's likely bootlegged, a difference. Fake would imply that they 'made it themselves', and that is quite unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique355 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 What many Thais fail to understand, even big companies, is that registering and protecting their trademark in Thailand does not give them any protection in other countries. In fact, they should register their trademark in each and every country where they do or intend to sell or where there are important competitors. To make a product look "Thai", although it isn't from Thailand, is deceiving customers and can be prosecuted in many countries, unfortunately not in Thailand. Thailand still has a long way to go to provide adequate protection to IP rights. To see how their rights are violated abroad might teach the Thais a lesson about what can and should be done home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeiY Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Also i do not know the history but i thought Red Bull was NOT a Thai company.Krating Daeng is a Thai company. Also i think locals have copied the logo. I once exported Kraeting Daeng tshirts with their logo and ran into trouble with Red Bull Australia for copyright. Red Bull is a original Thai product. Red bull Thai also hold more than 50% shares of this international red bull company from Austria. The Thai owner is one of the richest. Do you get some really genuine T-Shirt from the red bull Thai company or some fakes form Khao san road where just someone printed the company logo on a T-shirt? And even thought you would have some really genuine T.shirts from the Thai red bull company, it doesn't has to mean they are 'genuine' in Australia too, you don't hold the brand rights there and if the holder of the brand rights didn't gave you a license to distribute and sell that product such grey imports can be easily declared to fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuffki Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 An eye for an eye. How many of you use fake Windows XP? Not me, i am with Apple But pretty much all hardware is sold either with copy windows or most of the software. It's not fake, but it's likely bootlegged, a difference. Fake would imply that they 'made it themselves', and that is quite unlikely. same same-hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuffki Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Also i do not know the history but i thought Red Bull was NOT a Thai company.Krating Daeng is a Thai company. Also i think locals have copied the logo. I once exported Kraeting Daeng tshirts with their logo and ran into trouble with Red Bull Australia for copyright. Red Bull is a original Thai product. Red bull Thai also hold more than 50% shares of this international red bull company from Austria. The Thai owner is one of the richest. Do you get some really genuine T-Shirt from the red bull Thai company or some fakes form Khao san road where just someone printed the company logo on a T-shirt? And even thought you would have some really genuine T.shirts from the Thai red bull company, it doesn't has to mean they are 'genuine' in Australia too, you don't hold the brand rights there and if the holder of the brand rights didn't gave you a license to distribute and sell that product such grey imports can be easily declared to fake. and how do you know about copyrights in Australia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeiY Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 In the land of counterfeit everything, it's nice to see one of the bigger fish getting a fin eaten off by someone else. Turnabhout's fair play, karma, plaenty of ways to see this. One benefit is that this big fish, might instigate a stronger anti-counterfeiting pcuh with the powers that be, just because of this. ... nah. TIT. Racist and their stereotypes are out in full force. Always the same members can be seen with their little arrogant rants about Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotinsiam Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 This is terrible, It is a disgrace that poor Thais are being cheated by the evil foreigners - that is the Thais role in life. :jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piengrudee Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Red Bull is not Thai, it is Austrian. Kating Daeng is Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumpling Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 This is just so unfair where is their sense of fair play ? Copying Thai products oh the shame of it what's next charging Thais twice the price for said goods! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 (edited) Could this be karma? Why would it be karma? Care to explain? I think what he/she means is that what goes around comes around. Thais have been pirating things for years and now something of thier own is being pirated. Go to any market and you can buy Guchi for 100 baht or any of the latest DVD's even before they have been released. Well, they do something about and law enforcement working to reduce it. Except you are some xenophobe racist who stereotype all Thais and blame all for what a few have done there is no reason to say any Thai patent/copyright holder has lost his right to complain because of the other pirates. People make such silly and thoughtless comments will telling for sure here other stories how and unwelcome foreigners are or that they are always get ripped off. But that is probably only a karma like payback for this ugly mindset. All this CDs - everyone know that is a copy, but when it comes to food products like drinks and and seasoning products fake products bearing a much greater risk like the health of the costumer. Sergei, walk along Sukhumvit, or go to Fortune or Pantip or MBK. The Thais are doing very little about copyright and counterfeits. Nothing racist or xenophobic about it. Edited December 4, 2010 by whybother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman061 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I rechecked my calendar, phew! Thought i had slept and woken on April 1st! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaoPo Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Red Bull is not Thai, it is Austrian. Kating Daeng is Thai. Wrong and right. Red Bull is the translation for Krating Daeng (not Kating Daeng) which translates as "Red Bull". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull#History LaoPo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeiY Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Red Bull is not Thai, it is Austrian. Kating Daeng is Thai. Nah, the Austrian holds less than 50% of the company shares. The 'international' Red Bull is still very Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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