Abhisit Embarks On Mission To Build A 'Quality Society'

[webfact]

Abhisit embarks on mission to build a 'quality society'

By THE NATION ON SUNDAY

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has provided details of his government's outline on national reform, which will focus on improving people's well-being and equality of life and justice.

Speaking yesterday in a recorded television programme entitled "Thailand's national reform: for the equal and fair future of Thais", Abhisit said the focus of the reform was to bring equality to all Thais so that they enjoy a better quality of living. "The most important element that the reform focuses on is human, meaning every citizen. The ultimate goal is to improve their well-being. We will start from birth till they grow up to become workers and part of society,'' he said.

The reform touches on breast-milk promotion and welfare for pregnant women and newborn children up to two years old. Standard child-care centres will be constructed across the country and the private sector will invited to join forces with the government in investing in the centres and operating them. Child-care service at the workplace will also be provided especially for children living at construction sites.

"I believe quality society starts by quality people. This can be achieved by good planning since birth or even before birth. So the emphasis of this reform is very much on children and young people,'' he said.

Under the education reform plan, the prime minister vows to provide basic education to 1.7 million children, or 10 per cent of total children, including half of the disabled children who have not had a chance to enrol in the formal education system. They will be allowed to study with normal students at one school per province.

Two thirds of the 46,000 students who dropped out of school and have been deprived of their chance to re-enter the formal education system because of their poor academic performance will be given alternative education as an option to develop their occupational skills.

The PM said the private sector would be invited to take part in every reform by providing tax incentives.

A major problem facing 14,000 small schools across the country is low education standards. The government will improve the management of these schools and solve the problem of teacher shortages. Teachers will not have to do administrative work so they can devote more time to class. Some small schools will be merged with good schools in nearby tambons.

In remote areas where students live far from schools, special information technology will be provided to manage a group of schools, with one main school acting as a major network to assist other schools in providing remote education to students.

"Exemplary Teachers" who are devoted to their teaching will be given extra incentives and rewards. They will be offered attractive career paths to help them stay on as teachers.

Under the reform, occupational skills will be provided to 8 million workers, or half of the country's total workforce, who have only primary-school education or less.

The government will also provide special support to workers outside the labour system who cannot access low-cost capital and are taken advantage of by capitalists or "mafia". Some of these victims are small traders and motorcycle and taxi drivers. Further details on these educational reforms would be revealed next Sunday.

To improve the well-being of farmers, a special agricultural programme will be carried out to ensure that the country is able to maintain food stability for people across the country. To achieve the goal, the government will adjust the country's land management system by allowing the public to take part through projects such as Community Land Title Deeds, and a Land Bank. To provide living quarters to 50,000 families of rural poor people, the Ban Man Kong project will be implemented in 500 tambons across the country. A police reform that is part of a justice reform plan will be carried out in order to create a complete integrated work system of police and other related agencies. Some of these plans had earlier been announced in December.

The government also aims to reduce court cases by eliminating three-fourths of the total through an existing process called "community justice". Currently the public has to shoulder up to Bt100,000 to fight court cases. Complaint centres and legal advice will be provided to the public to access a more fair justice system.

"Many people who have no connection with powerful officials cannot file complaints against state agencies when they do not receive justice,'' he said. A special agency will be set up to handle land cases in which state agencies have taken people to court to ensure the public gets fair treatment.

To solve the corruption problem, which has become critical, the government has brought in the private sector and local government to fight the problem by getting them to sign a pact under the United Nations Convention Against Corruption. Transparent official information disclosure in the bidding process for state projects will be carried out to prevent corruption.

The government will propose laws to reform politics and the media and protect people in media professions.

Abhisit concluded by saying that the ultimate purpose in reforming the economy, quality of life, justice and education is to ensure national reconciliation.

-- The Nation 2011-01-02

[jonclark]

I would have liked to see some form of media reform as well to allow the press and TV (the black box type not Thai Visa) to be far more independent and investigative, so as to allow real public scrutiny of officials etc, and their working practices as part of the anti corruption drive.

[ianf]

Very difficult to change ingrained attitudes. Thais seem to have no regard for anyone but themselves and those that truly care about others and society as a whole are not so numerous. Good luck to Khun Abhisit - providing opportunities such as he plans is fine - but he needs to do a lot of re-education of the population as a whole. I watched a sad scene the other day as a crowd of school kids looked at their dead colleague lying on the road, splitting his head open after a motor bike accident. No helmet. Then they all road away, three to a bike, without helmet and attending police not saying a word ........ and so it goes on.

[jayjay0]

Well it is a start. How ever it is going to be a long road. The very speech it self was encouraging. It is not in the Thai culture to admit some thing is wrong. But that is what Abhist did. There of course are going to be the nay sayers. You know the ones. Why is my pet project not there or I saw this or this is Thailand all corrupt (chicken hearted way of saying Thai's are no good) and on it goes.

Very easy to deny the whole package when you are unwilling to allow time and only looking at a small piece of the puzzle. Time is needed and support for Abhist goals. Some of them will never be achieved some sooner than others some only partialy. But to look on them as a failure before they even try will not help. Being realistic some will require generations some more years than Abhist will be the PM.(at least 4 more) It dosen't really matter how long it takes if you don't start.

[SomTumTiger]

I love that there are TV Reds who still think we should have a Puea Thai as PM. Charlerm/Yingluck/Mingkwan instead of Abhisit? Anyone? Anyone?

Yeah, I thought so.

[monkfish]

Under the education reform plan, the prime minister vows to provide basic education to 1.7 million children, or 10 per cent of total children, including half of the disabled children who have not had a chance to enrol in the formal education system. They will be allowed to study with normal students at one school per province.

Only 10%???????

I thought basic and free education was already standard up to the of 16?

The reality is all these schemes will probably only be available to a small percentage of the population.

i.e. middle class or children of civil servants.

Have to say Abhisit been on TV a lot recently in what can only be described as Party Political Broadcasts.

Usually involving dancing and happy Thai's throwing flowers and such.

I wonder if the opposition will be allotted equal amounts of air time by the Military run TV stations in run up to elections this year?

Lets see if "Equality" is a word Abhisit really stands by or just hot air.

Only people on the receiving side will know.

[garrfeild]

An education system where pupils are actually taught by teachers who know the subject, and where there is no automatic "everyone must pass" rule. Saving face does not lead to knowledge or a society able to progress as Tailand needs to.

Edited January 2, 2011 by garrfeild

[hyperdimension]

I wonder if the opposition will be allotted equal amounts of air time by the Military run TV stations in run up to elections this year?

I'd love to see Jatuporn on television telling everyone how he, with the UDD and Pheu Thai, plan to improve Thai society.

Whenever I think of his face, it brings laughter in me. So it disappoints me to hear of the court's gag order.

[housepainter]

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has provided the vaguest of details of his government's outline on national reform, which has this high blown unattainable misguided aim of improving people's well-being and equality of life and justice.

Speaking yesterday in a recorded television programme, which is instantly out of date and gathering dust, entitled "Thailand's national reform: for the equal and fair future of Thais", Abhisit said the focus of the reform was to bring equality to all Thais so that they enjoy a better quality of living. "The most important element that the reform focuses on is human, meaning every citizen. The ultimate goal is to improve their well-being. We will start from birth till they grow up to become workers and part of society,'' he said. So it’s a utopian journey that leaves no one behind. Full of rhetoric and signifying not one practical difference. Not a single baht of wealth to be re-distributed and given to the poor. But bag fulls of well being delivered by hospitals that are underfunded and under resourced.

The reform touches on breast-milk promotion and welfare for pregnant women and newborn children up to two years old. I wonder if that would have included the pregnant woman whose husband beat her to death with a wooden club. Jog your memory. He was a Pai Police man on bail for murdering a Canadian guy and half murdering a Canadian woman. It’s the Thai ‘two for the price of one’ thinking. Abhisit seems to be so focused on new reform he forgets the need for old reform, like justice and murderous policemen. Baby milk then.

Standard child-care centres will be constructed across the country and the private sector will invited to join forces with the government in investing in the centres and operating them. Almost a mega project then for the local persons of influence to cut their teeth on in this New Year. Just when they were wondering where the next 400m baht rip off was coming from.

Child-care service at the workplace will also be provided especially for children living at construction sites. How about giving them something other than a tin shack to live in, no H&S regs; low pay, no insurance, no worker protection and lethal working conditions. Or is that one just around the corner like an out of control runaway train?

"I believe quality society starts by quality people.’ Well that rules Thailand out of ever leaving the start line then. ‘ This can be achieved by good planning since birth or even before birth.’ These people certainly can’t do any birth control planning. Hence every female over 16 has dropped a sprog somewhere along the tracks. ‘ So the emphasis of this reform is very much on children and young people,'' he said. Well at least he’s honest inferring that the entire adult population is worse than useless and nothing will ever improve.

Under the education reform plan, the prime minister vows to provide basic education to 1.7 million children, or 10 per cent of total children, including half of the disabled children who have not had a chance to enroll in the formal education system. They will be allowed to study with normal students at one school per province. Which means they are still being segregated when the rest of modern society has tried integration and it works. Yet what would Thailand be without its segregation, bigotry and prejudice towards the disabled. You might answer civilised!

Two thirds of the 46,000 students who dropped out of school and have been deprived of their chance to re-enter the formal education system because of their poor academic performance will be given alternative education as an option to develop their occupational skills. Well that’s certainly Orwellian for enslavement of labour. The school system failed you by non-delivery and misunderstanding your needs, so we’re going to write you off completely. No re-sits. Channel you into work making washers. The option is to be thrown on the scrap heap and ignored.

The PM said the private sector would be invited to take part in every reform by providing tax incentives. So this equal society is going to be united by tax breaks for rich who operate businesses.

A major problem facing 14,000 small schools across the country is low education standards. The government will improve the management of these schools and solve the problem of teacher shortages. Teachers will not have to do administrative work so they can devote more time to class. Some small schools will be merged with good schools in nearby tambons. The teachers are crap so we’ll take away the admin work and let them do more of what they’re useless at which is teaching. Then because they’re rubbish it’ll get better. Thai logic at its best.

In remote areas where students live far from schools, special information technology will be provided to manage a group of schools, [ an old PC will be delivered] with one main school acting as a major network [ an old PC that works]to assist other schools in providing remote education to students. Education is remote to the kids as it is boring, rote learning, dull and repetitive, without visual aids, resources, materials, pens or paper. Under funding explains a lot.

"Exemplary Teachers" who are devoted to their teaching will be given extra incentives and rewards. They will be offered attractive career paths to help them stay on as teachers. Cut throat competition amongst teachers who are at best working co-operatively, sharing ideas and resources. Then you propose to introduce incentive pay. The haves and the have nots all worthy of reward but being discriminated against. The lowly teacher will never see a baht of it in a system where the older and experienced come first no matter what. It will not work. It didn’t work in Europe where teachers simply did less as they were not being paid for it. Good will disappeared over night.

Under the reform, occupational skills will be provided to 8 million workers, or half of the country's total workforce, who have only primary-school education or less. A lot of assembly lines then. If it ever happens then it may resemble the Nazi Labour Camps where nothing was ever expected other than a hard day’s labour. Shame really, accepting that education fails them, so don’t fix it. The Germans of today explain away the labour camps as being ’70 years ago’. What excuse does Abhisit have?

The government will also provide special support to workers outside the labour system who cannot access low-cost capital. We’ve heard this one before from Thaksin. I’m surprised it’s still about as the answer seems to be when in debt borrow more. Those advantage taking capitalists or "mafia" don’t get a mention of being locked away, removed, prosecuted or even given a stern talking to – Thai style. Some of their victims are small traders and motorcycle and taxi drivers so don’t expect anyone to help them anytime soon. Further details on these educational reforms would be revealed next Sunday, it says. Excuse me, but what educational reforms are we talking about in tackling the mafia loan sharks or keeping the streets safe for Mom to sell her fried bananas?

To improve the well-being of farmers, and to provide living quarters to 50,000 families of rural poor people is an unattainable dream. Tackling the mafia families that rule in each community as well as in parliament would be a start but it gets no mention here. Instead the carpet just keeps getting fatter.

A police reform that integrates it into a work system of related agencies is not the answer to the corrupt Police that carry out crime and facilitate major drug supply and dealing. If there’s one bad apple in a barrel and you then plan to move it from barrel to barrel, you are infecting not disinfecting.

The government also aims to reduce court cases by eliminating three-fourths of the total through an existing process called "community justice". Thai style that means being chased by a machete wielding mob who then hack you death. The claim that currently the public has to shoulder up to Bt100,000 to fight court cases, doesn’t make sense. Is that the entire Thai public? Further tautological nonsense comes by way of ‘Complaint centres and legal advice will be provided to the public to access a more fair justice system.’ So, having a place to complain there is no justice makes for a fairer justice system. I see. So, having somewhere to complain that I’ve got Aids, please cure me, would have me back to Pattaya the following morning?

"Many people who have no connection with powerful officials cannot file comยplaints against state agencies when they do not receive justice,'' he said. Well excuse me but that must be because there is no appeals or complaints procedure. So introduce one but do not add to the beaurocracy , which we all know the Thais love, by adding another obtuse layer. They should in fact scrap any special agency handling land cases in which state agencies have taken people to as it’s is a fattening of a confusing system. Stream line, strip, do away with, but do not add to it.

Any United Nations Convention Against Corruption pacts should have been operating since they were introduced. Attending a UN talk shop on human rights and then, still to this day, not signing up, is an example of the blasé, apathetic attitude of Thais where the consequences of actually tackling the truth are to be avoided. Transparent official information disclosure to prevent corruption is a system. When you allow the corrupt to remain in position you are simply handing them a box of match to go with their can of petrol. We know the corrupt people; we know unusual wealth when we see it; ergo, we know who are the corrupt. Next: tackle it.

The government will propose laws to reform politics and the media and protect people in media professions. There two things wrong and the first is the Military media outlets, which at a stroke should be shut down. It’ll never happen. The second is the Lese Majeste strangle hold on Freedom of Speech. It’ll never happen. Next.

Abhisit is misguided in concluding that in reforming the economy, quality of life, justice and education will ensure national reconciliation. The ingredients are wrong. Education, when you abandon the adults and focus on the kids has no bearing on the cavernous gaps held between reds and yellows. I doubt it has much to do with the issues of rich and poor. Justice actually should be there when it is needed but in reality you do not have a population trooping before the courts. Therefore, it does not actually impact on most folks lives. Furthermore, it will not affect their quality of life.

What will, is a distribution of wealth that moves from 90% having 10% of the wealth. Other countries have seen revolutions. China and India are examples of those above figures and on their scale it is a lost battle never to be fought.

There are working models of how to put it right.

It’s not rocket science.

Reduce the political influence of the military by cutting their budget to nil, stopping national service and cutting by 90% actual numbers. In effect make them powerless, effective enough to rule the borders and not wage war. Any outside threats and invite in the UN.

Prosecute all unusual wealth individuals, disband the Police over night replacing it with a Civilian management and have all re-apply, re-train and re-locate. Along with all civil servants introduce sacking without pension. Curtail any such thing as inactive post.

Fund education. Introduce compulsory English as a second language and make every school an international one. That way you introduce teaching methodologies that work and Thai teachers receive in service training. The Thai way dies over night and a foreign system [proven] replaces it.

That’s why it’ll never happen. The problems from Western eyes are so deep, so engrained that we would tear it up and start again. And it our eyes that understand it and can make changes that would resolve it.

The whole Abhisit response is a lie being sold to Thais. He’s as useless and guilty as all his predecessors in betraying his people. It would be better to lose office giving Thais a reality check than to occupy the seat and do nothing.

[jayjay0]

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has provided the vaguest of details of his government's outline on national reform, which has this high blown unattainable misguided aim of improving people's well-being and equality of life and justice.

Speaking yesterday in a recorded television programme, which is instantly out of date and gathering dust, entitled "Thailand's national reform: for the equal and fair future of Thais", Abhisit said the focus of the reform was to bring equality to all Thais so that they enjoy a better quality of living. "The most important element that the reform focuses on is human, meaning every citizen. The ultimate goal is to improve their well-being. We will start from birth till they grow up to become workers and part of society,'' he said. So it's a utopian journey that leaves no one behind. Full of rhetoric and signifying not one practical difference. Not a single baht of wealth to be re-distributed and given to the poor. But bag fulls of well being delivered by hospitals that are underfunded and under resourced.

The reform touches on breast-milk promotion and welfare for pregnant women and newborn children up to two years old. I wonder if that would have included the pregnant woman whose husband beat her to death with a wooden club. Jog your memory. He was a Pai Police man on bail for murdering a Canadian guy and half murdering a Canadian woman. It's the Thai 'two for the price of one' thinking. Abhisit seems to be so focused on new reform he forgets the need for old reform, like justice and murderous policemen. Baby milk then.

Standard child-care centres will be constructed across the country and the private sector will invited to join forces with the government in investing in the centres and operating them. Almost a mega project then for the local persons of influence to cut their teeth on in this New Year. Just when they were wondering where the next 400m baht rip off was coming from.

Child-care service at the workplace will also be provided especially for children living at construction sites. How about giving them something other than a tin shack to live in, no H&S regs; low pay, no insurance, no worker protection and lethal working conditions. Or is that one just around the corner like an out of control runaway train?

"I believe quality society starts by quality people.' Well that rules Thailand out of ever leaving the start line then. ' This can be achieved by good planning since birth or even before birth.' These people certainly can't do any birth control planning. Hence every female over 16 has dropped a sprog somewhere along the tracks. ' So the emphasis of this reform is very much on children and young people,'' he said. Well at least he's honest inferring that the entire adult population is worse than useless and nothing will ever improve.

Under the education reform plan, the prime minister vows to provide basic education to 1.7 million children, or 10 per cent of total children, including half of the disabled children who have not had a chance to enroll in the formal education system. They will be allowed to study with normal students at one school per province. Which means they are still being segregated when the rest of modern society has tried integration and it works. Yet what would Thailand be without its segregation, bigotry and prejudice towards the disabled. You might answer civilised!

Two thirds of the 46,000 students who dropped out of school and have been deprived of their chance to re-enter the formal education system because of their poor academic performance will be given alternative education as an option to develop their occupational skills. Well that's certainly Orwellian for enslavement of labour. The school system failed you by non-delivery and misunderstanding your needs, so we're going to write you off completely. No re-sits. Channel you into work making washers. The option is to be thrown on the scrap heap and ignored.

The PM said the private sector would be invited to take part in every reform by providing tax incentives. So this equal society is going to be united by tax breaks for rich who operate businesses.

A major problem facing 14,000 small schools across the country is low education standards. The government will improve the management of these schools and solve the problem of teacher shortages. Teachers will not have to do administrative work so they can devote more time to class. Some small schools will be merged with good schools in nearby tambons. The teachers are crap so we'll take away the admin work and let them do more of what they're useless at which is teaching. Then because they're rubbish it'll get better. Thai logic at its best.

In remote areas where students live far from schools, special information technology will be provided to manage a group of schools, [ an old PC will be delivered] with one main school acting as a major network [ an old PC that works]to assist other schools in providing remote education to students. Education is remote to the kids as it is boring, rote learning, dull and repetitive, without visual aids, resources, materials, pens or paper. Under funding explains a lot.

"Exemplary Teachers" who are devoted to their teaching will be given extra incentives and rewards. They will be offered attractive career paths to help them stay on as teachers. Cut throat competition amongst teachers who are at best working co-operatively, sharing ideas and resources. Then you propose to introduce incentive pay. The haves and the have nots all worthy of reward but being discriminated against. The lowly teacher will never see a baht of it in a system where the older and experienced come first no matter what. It will not work. It didn't work in Europe where teachers simply did less as they were not being paid for it. Good will disappeared over night.

Under the reform, occupational skills will be provided to 8 million workers, or half of the country's total workforce, who have only primary-school education or less. A lot of assembly lines then. If it ever happens then it may resemble the Nazi Labour Camps where nothing was ever expected other than a hard day's labour. Shame really, accepting that education fails them, so don't fix it. The Germans of today explain away the labour camps as being '70 years ago'. What excuse does Abhisit have?

The government will also provide special support to workers outside the labour system who cannot access low-cost capital. We've heard this one before from Thaksin. I'm surprised it's still about as the answer seems to be when in debt borrow more. Those advantage taking capitalists or "mafia" don't get a mention of being locked away, removed, prosecuted or even given a stern talking to – Thai style. Some of their victims are small traders and motorcycle and taxi drivers so don't expect anyone to help them anytime soon. Further details on these educational reforms would be revealed next Sunday, it says. Excuse me, but what educational reforms are we talking about in tackling the mafia loan sharks or keeping the streets safe for Mom to sell her fried bananas?

To improve the well-being of farmers, and to provide living quarters to 50,000 families of rural poor people is an unattainable dream. Tackling the mafia families that rule in each community as well as in parliament would be a start but it gets no mention here. Instead the carpet just keeps getting fatter.

A police reform that integrates it into a work system of related agencies is not the answer to the corrupt Police that carry out crime and facilitate major drug supply and dealing. If there's one bad apple in a barrel and you then plan to move it from barrel to barrel, you are infecting not disinfecting.

The government also aims to reduce court cases by eliminating three-fourths of the total through an existing process called "community justice". Thai style that means being chased by a machete wielding mob who then hack you death. The claim that currently the public has to shoulder up to Bt100,000 to fight court cases, doesn't make sense. Is that the entire Thai public? Further tautological nonsense comes by way of 'Complaint centres and legal advice will be provided to the public to access a more fair justice system.' So, having a place to complain there is no justice makes for a fairer justice system. I see. So, having somewhere to complain that I've got Aids, please cure me, would have me back to Pattaya the following morning?

"Many people who have no connection with powerful officials cannot file comยplaints against state agencies when they do not receive justice,'' he said. Well excuse me but that must be because there is no appeals or complaints procedure. So introduce one but do not add to the beaurocracy , which we all know the Thais love, by adding another obtuse layer. They should in fact scrap any special agency handling land cases in which state agencies have taken people to as it's is a fattening of a confusing system. Stream line, strip, do away with, but do not add to it.

Any United Nations Convention Against Corruption pacts should have been operating since they were introduced. Attending a UN talk shop on human rights and then, still to this day, not signing up, is an example of the blasé, apathetic attitude of Thais where the consequences of actually tackling the truth are to be avoided. Transparent official information disclosure to prevent corruption is a system. When you allow the corrupt to remain in position you are simply handing them a box of match to go with their can of petrol. We know the corrupt people; we know unusual wealth when we see it; ergo, we know who are the corrupt. Next: tackle it.

The government will propose laws to reform politics and the media and protect people in media professions. There two things wrong and the first is the Military media outlets, which at a stroke should be shut down. It'll never happen. The second is the Lese Majeste strangle hold on Freedom of Speech. It'll never happen. Next.

Abhisit is misguided in concluding that in reforming the economy, quality of life, justice and education will ensure national reconciliation. The ingredients are wrong. Education, when you abandon the adults and focus on the kids has no bearing on the cavernous gaps held between reds and yellows. I doubt it has much to do with the issues of rich and poor. Justice actually should be there when it is needed but in reality you do not have a population trooping before the courts. Therefore, it does not actually impact on most folks lives. Furthermore, it will not affect their quality of life.

What will, is a distribution of wealth that moves from 90% having 10% of the wealth. Other countries have seen revolutions. China and India are examples of those above figures and on their scale it is a lost battle never to be fought.

There are working models of how to put it right.

It's not rocket science.

Reduce the political influence of the military by cutting their budget to nil, stopping national service and cutting by 90% actual numbers. In effect make them powerless, effective enough to rule the borders and not wage war. Any outside threats and invite in the UN.

Prosecute all unusual wealth individuals, disband the Police over night replacing it with a Civilian management and have all re-apply, re-train and re-locate. Along with all civil servants introduce sacking without pension. Curtail any such thing as inactive post.

Fund education. Introduce compulsory English as a second language and make every school an international one. That way you introduce teaching methodologies that work and Thai teachers receive in service training. The Thai way dies over night and a foreign system [proven] replaces it.

That's why it'll never happen. The problems from Western eyes are so deep, so engrained that we would tear it up and start again. And it our eyes that understand it and can make changes that would resolve it.

The whole Abhisit response is a lie being sold to Thais. He's as useless and guilty as all his predecessors in betraying his people. It would be better to lose office giving Thais a reality check than to occupy the seat and do nothing.

You had me worried I thought you had started liking Thai's

Once again you make a assumption and then ramble on as if your assumption were true.

Perhaps if you would drop your ideas for a minute stand back and look at the situation as a whole you might think differently.

You for get that the man has to work with other people his word is not law. His plan is the same as yours full of if's. The very thought that it could be done in the time frame you hint at but are afraid to say is preposterous.

Rite up there with fire the entire Police Force. A nation of over 60,000,000 people and you want to fire all the police men.:jap:

It will take time to accomplish any part of his goals and to take your attitude it won't work so leave the status quo is irresponsible. What exactly are you afraid of. Are you like that other Thai basher who made his living selling unlicensed goods abroad. Make no mistake about it Thailand will change for the better in spite of every thing you can do to hold it back. But it will not change on your or My time schedule.At least I am willing to let them try without whining why, why and why. How did a guy like you with all the answers wind up here.

PS you do have some good ideas but as usual you think you are the only one that matters. Abhist has some real people to work with It is a real world he lives in.

[hyperdimension]

housepainter, what do you think of Pheu Thai's ideas of improving Thailand?

Do you agree with me that Jatuporn should be Pheu Thai's candidate for the general election?

Edited January 3, 2011 by hyperdimension