sirineou Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 what is the attitude normally of thai girls about this situation If she doesn't share your bed on the first night, forget to get her phone number, don't call hers. At 31 she is unlikely to be a virgin. There are plenty around that will be happy to bed you on the first date. I agree. If she hasn't sussed out what a consummate prick you are on that oh so romantic 'first date', she will be so very happy you have 'forgotten' her telephone number. That way, she won't have to go along with her polite Thai cultural upbringing and 'be nice to you' through gritted teeth if you ever call. At 31 she is very likely to be a virgin if not married with children. How do you know? Find out with whatever brain you have. Ie: Where did you meet her? bar/restaurant worker/massage palour et al? And yes, their are still many (mainly in tourist areas) willing to haha 'bed' you (how quaint) on 'the first date' here. They're called ho's. If you want a TRULY decent Thai woman, EARN her. Respect. Even if you don't want a TRULY decent woman you have to earn her respect. It is surprising how many indecent women want respect too. EVERYONE wants respect. The difference is that whilst everyone demands it, only a few people deserve it. We all know that and only show respect where it is deserved and earned. though it is a valid respond (" whilst everyone demands it, only a few people deserve it.") is easy to enter the "slippery slope " of becoming the arbiter of who merits respect and who does not. Personally As I get older , finally, I have learn that I have very little control over other peoples behavior, and the only thing that I really have control over, is my own behavior, So I have decided to treat all people with respect, and “Let the chips fall where they may”. It is an attitude that I highly recommend to everyone.It is truly a liberating attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 And I respect your decision - even though I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanForbes Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 So just what is "RESPECT"? According to the dictionary it can be a noun, or as a verb when used with another word. When use as a verb it can mean an understanding for someone else's rights, beliefs, culture or choice of religion. If you don't try to impose your will on their beliefs then you have treated them with respect. I may not agree with someone's position, but I respect their right to have it. And, although it's almost impossible NOT to make an assumption or judgement about someone, you have to take into consideration the whole situation and understand we are all a product of our environment.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 (edited) So just what is "RESPECT"? According to the dictionary it can be a noun, or as a verb when used with another word. When use as a verb it can mean an understanding for someone else's rights, beliefs, culture or choice of religion. If you don't try to impose your will on their beliefs then you have treated them with respect. I may not agree with someone's position, but I respect their right to have it. And, although it's almost impossible NOT to make an assumption or judgement about someone, you have to take into consideration the whole situation and understand we are all a product of our environment.. Thank God you pointed that out - we were lost without this grammatical description of 'respect'. Up until then we thought we knew what the word meant! How stupid could we be.... Edit - sarcasm Edited March 27, 2011 by F1fanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjclark1 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 So I have decided to treat all people with respect, and "Let the chips fall where they may". It is an attitude that I highly recommend to everyone.It is truly a liberating attitude. Something you give to everyone, is worth nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanForbes Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 So just what is "RESPECT"? According to the dictionary it can be a noun, or as a verb when used with another word. When use as a verb it can mean an understanding for someone else's rights, beliefs, culture or choice of religion. If you don't try to impose your will on their beliefs then you have treated them with respect. I may not agree with someone's position, but I respect their right to have it. And, although it's almost impossible NOT to make an assumption or judgement about someone, you have to take into consideration the whole situation and understand we are all a product of our environment.. Thank God you pointed that out - we were lost without this grammatical description of 'respect'. Up until then we thought we knew what the word meant! How stupid could we be.... Edit - sarcasm :lol: Sarcasm accepted. But it seems from some of the comments that people didn't know what it meant. Or, chose not to and preferred personal attacks instead.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 So just what is "RESPECT"? According to the dictionary it can be a noun, or as a verb when used with another word. When use as a verb it can mean an understanding for someone else's rights, beliefs, culture or choice of religion. If you don't try to impose your will on their beliefs then you have treated them with respect. I may not agree with someone's position, but I respect their right to have it. And, although it's almost impossible NOT to make an assumption or judgement about someone, you have to take into consideration the whole situation and understand we are all a product of our environment.. Thank God you pointed that out - we were lost without this grammatical description of 'respect'. Up until then we thought we knew what the word meant! How stupid could we be.... Edit - sarcasm :lol: Sarcasm accepted. But it seems from some of the comments that people didn't know what it meant. Or, chose not to and preferred personal attacks instead.. A previous poster was quite right in pointing out that some of us (that have been around a few years or for whom English is not their first language) need a pointer or smiley to show sarcasm or irony. Trying v hard to remember! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 So I have decided to treat all people with respect, and "Let the chips fall where they may". It is an attitude that I highly recommend to everyone.It is truly a liberating attitude. Something you give to everyone, is worth nothing. To treat people with respect is not the same as having respect for a person, to be polite to people is a sign of respect, but on many occasions you know nothing about the person, so actually you can not know if you respect them as a person or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 So I have decided to treat all people with respect, and "Let the chips fall where they may". It is an attitude that I highly recommend to everyone.It is truly a liberating attitude. Something you give to everyone, is worth nothing. To treat people with respect is not the same as having respect for a person, to be polite to people is a sign of respect, but on many occasions you know nothing about the person, so actually you can not know if you respect them as a person or not. Actually no. You can generally tell a lot about a person taking into consideration a) where you meet them how they're dressed etc. etc. Not always true - the odd English Lord will be dressed as a tramp, but pretty much true in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 So I have decided to treat all people with respect, and "Let the chips fall where they may". It is an attitude that I highly recommend to everyone.It is truly a liberating attitude. Something you give to everyone, is worth nothing. To treat people with respect is not the same as having respect for a person, to be polite to people is a sign of respect, but on many occasions you know nothing about the person, so actually you can not know if you respect them as a person or not. Actually no. You can generally tell a lot about a person taking into consideration a) where you meet them how they're dressed etc. etc. Not always true - the odd English Lord will be dressed as a tramp, but pretty much true in Thailand. Not for me......I have to have a little more knowledge before somebody earns my respect,.......judging a book by its' cover and all that........just my way.....maybe I'm just not good at first impressions.............but that will not stop me being charming and polite....costs nothing...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSingh Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Thank God you pointed that out - we were lost without this grammatical description of 'respect'. Up until then we thought we knew what the word meant! How stupid could we be.... Edit - sarcasm :lol: Sarcasm accepted. But it seems from some of the comments that people didn't know what it meant. Or, chose not to and preferred personal attacks instead.. A previous poster was quite right in pointing out that some of us (that have been around a few years or for whom English is not their first language) need a pointer or smiley to show sarcasm or irony. Trying v hard to remember! You don't need to remember, they are as clear as day on the right hand side of where you Post.. An emoticon is a facial expression pictorially represented by punctuation and letters, usually to express a writer’s mood. Emoticons are often used to alert a responder to the tenor or temper of a statement, and can change and improve interpretation of plain text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Thank God you pointed that out - we were lost without this grammatical description of 'respect'. Up until then we thought we knew what the word meant! How stupid could we be.... Edit - sarcasm :lol: Sarcasm accepted. But it seems from some of the comments that people didn't know what it meant. Or, chose not to and preferred personal attacks instead.. A previous poster was quite right in pointing out that some of us (that have been around a few years or for whom English is not their first language) need a pointer or smiley to show sarcasm or irony. Trying v hard to remember! You don't need to remember, they are as clear as day on the right hand side of where you Post.. An emoticon is a facial expression pictorially represented by punctuation and letters, usually to express a writer's mood. Emoticons are often used to alert a responder to the tenor or temper of a statement, and can change and improve interpretation of plain text. Thanks for that. It was as welcome as Ian's comments... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSingh Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Thanks for that. It was as welcome as Ian's comments... Oh wow, what a delight you are.. Have a nice day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remiss Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 (edited) How much time do people spend conjuring up these kind of topics to tick people off? Seriously? Shorts, socks, tolerance, differences, gf tests, where to meet a good bar girl, never been here before but won't bother if she won't have sex etc.. Interesting enough sometimes though, up to a certain point.. Edited March 27, 2011 by remiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 And I respect your decision - even though I disagree. 55555 Good one F1, I deserved that one, All The poor OP wanted to know is " If he should Boink the girl" and here we are moralizing (is that a word or did I lust make it up?) . 55555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 So I have decided to treat all people with respect, and "Let the chips fall where they may". It is an attitude that I highly recommend to everyone.It is truly a liberating attitude. Something you give to everyone, is worth nothing. To treat people with respect is not the same as having respect for a person, to be polite to people is a sign of respect, but on many occasions you know nothing about the person, so actually you can not know if you respect them as a person or not. 473 geo You are absolutely right, right on the mark With the limited information we usually have about people, There is a good chance that we will be wrong. If I err I prefer to err on the side of good.. Anyway judging people is hard work, and I am way too lazy for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 So I have decided to treat all people with respect, and "Let the chips fall where they may". It is an attitude that I highly recommend to everyone.It is truly a liberating attitude. Something you give to everyone, is worth nothing. Never has there been truer words spoken. So very, very true. I wiil save this in my favourite list of quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDantes Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 I saw a big fat belligerent boor of a farang bark "BOY!" followed by some question at a young Thai man who was renting mopeds. The young guy just smiled and answered politely. It's obvious who earned respect based on that evidence, but respect for human dignity should be the default. Back on topic, don't ask her if she'll sleep with you, way too forward. The concept of Kreng Jai (thoughtfulness) plays a big role in LOS, you avoid making a person feel awkward. If both of you will hop in the sack on a first date, well and good, at least you both know the kind of person you're dealing with, and the inherent risks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanForbes Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 (edited) To treat people with respect is not the same as having respect for a person, to be polite to people is a sign of respect, but on many occasions you know nothing about the person, so actually you can not know if you respect them as a person or not. A bit pedantic, but I would agree with you. I might hate a king or queen, but I would respect their position. I haven't got much respect for many policians on a personal level, but I respect their position of authority. And, until I know a person better I will initially treat them with respect. When they lose my respect for something they've done then all I feel is pity for them and they earn my contempt. And, from my point of view, F1fanatic jumped to the wrong conclusion using false assumptions. That happens a lot on these forums... and even by people who should know better. In doing so they lose some of my respect for them. Edited March 27, 2011 by IanForbes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 So I have decided to treat all people with respect, and "Let the chips fall where they may". It is an attitude that I highly recommend to everyone.It is truly a liberating attitude. Something you give to everyone, is worth nothing. Never has there been truer words spoken. So very, very true. I wiil save this in my favourite list of quotes. Air is given to everybody........want to ask if people would rather have no money or no air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 As I originally said, This forum can be, both informative and entertaining... At this point it is,increasingly, becoming very entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlycw Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Are you for real? You haven't even met her! Be a gentleman and do not take advantage of her trust by surprising her somehow after midnight. Maybe you saw Basic Instincts and feel that tearing off her blouse is the way to go? Give her a chance to say no, treat her with respect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstribling Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) There you go. Edited March 28, 2011 by mstribling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meom Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Respect or not, they nearly always look to you for MONEY first. Just to give a bit of a romantic slant to the money thing it goes more like this: If she likes you then she likes your money. If she not likes you then she not likes your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I when on line like loveawaken or lava place and I said I am moving to Thailand and like maybe within 2 hours I had 3 or 4 Thai girls telling me Hey don't rent a place move in with me.They all said they had jobs not in Bars right. I was born at night but not last night.Anybody who post a question like should I sleep with her GET A GRIP dude.If it doesn't come out in the wash it will in the rinse.Oh I almost forgot when I would reply don't you think we should get to know each other first before moving in,the reply were the funniest stuff you could image.LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 what is the attitude normally of thai girls about this situation If she doesn't share your bed on the first night, forget to get her phone number, don't call hers. At 31 she is unlikely to be a virgin. There are plenty around that will be happy to bed you on the first date. I agree. If she hasn't sussed out what a consummate prick you are on that oh so romantic 'first date', she will be so very happy you have 'forgotten' her telephone number. That way, she won't have to go along with her polite Thai cultural upbringing and 'be nice to you' through gritted teeth if you ever call. At 31 she is very likely to be a virgin if not married with children. How do you know? Find out with whatever brain you have. Ie: Where did you meet her? bar/restaurant worker/massage palour et al? And yes, their are still many (mainly in tourist areas) willing to haha 'bed' you (how quaint) on 'the first date' here. They're called ho's. If you want a TRULY decent Thai woman, EARN her. Respect. Even if you don't want a TRULY decent woman you have to earn her respect. It is surprising how many indecent women want respect too. EVERYONE wants respect. The difference is that whilst everyone demands it, only a few people deserve it. We all know that and only show respect where it is deserved and earned. Speak for yourself. I try not to allow the contemptability of others to compromise my manners (such as they are). SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieovaseas Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) Very common on these dating websites are Thai women that are escorts who describe themselves as tour guides or as a companion for the duration of a foreigner's visit to Thailand, for an agreed price of course or the visitor will be expected to pay for all expenses including himself, the girl and her services. These are not always ladies of ill repute, but can be those that are seeking to earn additional income apart from working at they're regular jobs. Could be described as a sort of higher market escort service. As a matter of fact, the servicing of businessmen and single tourist visitors to Thailand has proven to be a lucrative business for many educated Thai women. There are no concerns regarding any sleeping arrangements as this is included in the service or with how kind and generous the girl is expecting the visitor to be for her company during the trip. Be prepared for the lady to want to moove in with you...and that means fulltime And then don't be suprised when she announces " i leave job...boss no good...him no pay i " No doubt you'll soon discover she never had any such job in the first place, but by then it will be to late, you'll already be on that long and slippery slope towards the dreaded condition of wallet-ius empty-itus If the Op is not trolling i think he may gain more from reading the many threads lately about Thai women and there lust for little white LIES Edited March 28, 2011 by ozzieovaseas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturn Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) what is the attitude normally of thai girls about this situation If she doesn't share your bed on the first night, forget to get her phone number, don't call hers. At 31 she is unlikely to be a virgin. There are plenty around that will be happy to bed you on the first date. I agree. If she hasn't sussed out what a consummate prick you are on that oh so romantic 'first date', she will be so very happy you have 'forgotten' her telephone number. That way, she won't have to go along with her polite Thai cultural upbringing and 'be nice to you' through gritted teeth if you ever call. At 31 she is very likely to be a virgin if not married with children. How do you know? Find out with whatever brain you have. Ie: Where did you meet her? bar/restaurant worker/massage palour et al? And yes, their are still many (mainly in tourist areas) willing to haha 'bed' you (how quaint) on 'the first date' here. They're called ho's. If you want a TRULY decent Thai woman, EARN her. Respect. it really is this simple, though i don't buy the rest of the post. Edited March 28, 2011 by nocturn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieovaseas Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 what is the attitude normally of thai girls about this situation If she doesn't share your bed on the first night, forget to get her phone number, don't call hers. At 31 she is unlikely to be a virgin. There are plenty around that will be happy to bed you on the first date. I agree. If she hasn't sussed out what a consummate prick you are on that oh so romantic 'first date', she will be so very happy you have 'forgotten' her telephone number. That way, she won't have to go along with her polite Thai cultural upbringing and 'be nice to you' through gritted teeth if you ever call. At 31 she is very likely to be a virgin if not married with children. How do you know? Find out with whatever brain you have. Ie: Where did you meet her? bar/restaurant worker/massage palour et al? And yes, their are still many (mainly in tourist areas) willing to haha 'bed' you (how quaint) on 'the first date' here. They're called ho's. If you want a TRULY decent Thai woman, EARN her. Respect. it really is this simple, though i don't buy the rest of the post. Respect eh? Certainly a reputable trait back home, but in LOS i fear, maybe a novel concept. Pretty hard to respect someone who spends the first hour of conversation trying to find out where you live,how much you pay for appartment/condo, how much you earn, and what you own back home At least females in the west have enough "respect" to be sneaky and go about it discreetly over time, instead of just asking straight out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhammer820 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 WHATEVER YOU DO...DO NOT JUST GIVE HER MONEY OR BUY HER THINGS THAT IS TOO EXPENSIVE WHEN YOU MEET HER...she will just expect the gifts to keep on coming..and i hope she does not ask you to buy alcohol for the whole village if that is in fact where her hometown is...NEVER AGREE TO SEND HER MONTHLY ALLOWANCES...as this is a sign that she is using you for money..if she likes you she could truly accept all of this that i just mentioned, if not, run....run far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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