katabeachbum Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 XLT = chrome wildtrack = matt black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 It's a Vigo. Yep, just with more masculine looks Hmmmmmmmm, you are awful, but l like you. hehehe Well I do have to admit I used to own a VIGO, but back in early 2005 it was so far ahead of all competition you just had to suck it up and drive a girly looking, but otherwise great truck Mind you, up until now, the missus still prefers the styling of the VIGO - and I'm sure that's a factor not lost on Toyota's design department. Going with the Mrs' preference can make the argument of going for the top model over a lesser one easier to get past the finance dept - if that's the way your household functions That said, my wife now prefers the T6 Ranger, but I have to say I like the GMI-700 Colorado - but that could change once I see a production version of it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 XLT = chrome wildtrack = matt black Yep, appears that's the case. I just wish it had a rear bumper that didn't look like it came straight out of the 70's I have to give it to Mitsu for making an integrated looking bumper for the Triton, and to Chev for the alloy bumper on the Colorado show truck.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 XLT = chrome wildtrack = matt black Yep, appears that's the case. I just wish it had a rear bumper that didn't look like it came straight out of the 70's I have to give it to Mitsu for making an integrated looking bumper for the Triton, and to Chev for the alloy bumper on the Colorado show truck.. those ugly, mostly chromed rear bumpers are a part of the design language, sturdy durable trucks ready to pull any load but why on earth would T6 need such an ugly trailer tow? best rear bumper in TH so far is IMHO DMax top model fiberglass. Not bad and Vigo 4x4 looks so much better without rear pumper, but then original rear sensors dont fit as designed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriouseats Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 So im not the only one that thinks dmax looks the most like a real pickup in thailand? As long as you dont look inside... When you sit in it it feels like one of those 3km/h plastic car for kids, but the toy has more options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 So im not the only one that thinks dmax looks the most like a real pickup in thailand? As long as you dont look inside... When you sit in it it feels like one of those 3km/h plastic car for kids, but the toy has more options in 2003 I almost purchased a 4 door DMax as the only good looking pickup in TH at that time. However reading the specs and renting a 4x4 auto 3,0 for 2 days made me choose differently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 So im not the only one that thinks dmax looks the most like a real pickup in thailand? As long as you dont look inside... When you sit in it it feels like one of those 3km/h plastic car for kids, but the toy has more options Right now, looks-wise, I agree - D-Max or Colorado are the trucks that look the most like something designed for a man, with almost complete disregard for female buyers The new Mazda BT-50 is the polar opposite though... I can only imagine that Mazda are predicting there's a niche market of 16yo teenage girls that want pickup trucks. I'm half expecting the new BT-50 marketing campaign to be fronted by a Korean boy band singing songs like "my rot pickup goes zoom zoom", with a side-cuts to bunch teenage girls dressed like Strawberry Shortcake prancing around like they're promoting women's hygiene products lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 So im not the only one that thinks dmax looks the most like a real pickup in thailand? As long as you dont look inside... When you sit in it it feels like one of those 3km/h plastic car for kids, but the toy has more options Right now, looks-wise, I agree - D-Max or Colorado are the trucks that look the most like something designed for a man, with almost complete disregard for female buyers The new Mazda BT-50 is the polar opposite though... I can only imagine that Mazda are predicting there's a niche market of 16yo teenage girls that want pickup trucks. I'm half expecting the new BT-50 marketing campaign to be fronted by a Korean boy band singing songs like "my rot pickup goes zoom zoom", with a side-cuts to bunch teenage girls dressed like Strawberry Shortcake prancing around like they're promoting women's hygiene products lol ad a pink fino in the bed, and hello kitty plate frame and you v got......................................one sale. zoom zoom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 So im not the only one that thinks dmax looks the most like a real pickup in thailand? As long as you dont look inside... When you sit in it it feels like one of those 3km/h plastic car for kids, but the toy has more options Right now, looks-wise, I agree - D-Max or Colorado are the trucks that look the most like something designed for a man, with almost complete disregard for female buyers The new Mazda BT-50 is the polar opposite though... I can only imagine that Mazda are predicting there's a niche market of 16yo teenage girls that want pickup trucks. I'm half expecting the new BT-50 marketing campaign to be fronted by a Korean boy band singing songs like "my rot pickup goes zoom zoom", with a side-cuts to bunch teenage girls dressed like Strawberry Shortcake prancing around like they're promoting women's hygiene products lol ad a pink fino in the bed, and hello kitty plate frame and you v got......................................one sale. zoom zoom LOL, yeah the Fino would definitely top it off. Seriously though, what were they thinking? I can't ever recall a car designed to completely alienate it's target market like this Could you imagine a Western building contractor turning up to a work site in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriouseats Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 So im not the only one that thinks dmax looks the most like a real pickup in thailand? As long as you dont look inside... When you sit in it it feels like one of those 3km/h plastic car for kids, but the toy has more options Right now, looks-wise, I agree - D-Max or Colorado are the trucks that look the most like something designed for a man, with almost complete disregard for female buyers The new Mazda BT-50 is the polar opposite though... I can only imagine that Mazda are predicting there's a niche market of 16yo teenage girls that want pickup trucks. I'm half expecting the new BT-50 marketing campaign to be fronted by a Korean boy band singing songs like "my rot pickup goes zoom zoom", with a side-cuts to bunch teenage girls dressed like Strawberry Shortcake prancing around like they're promoting women's hygiene products lol ad a pink fino in the bed, and hello kitty plate frame and you v got......................................one sale. zoom zoom LOL, yeah the Fino would definitely top it off. Seriously though, what were they thinking? I can't ever recall a car designed to completely alienate it's target market like this Could you imagine a Western building contractor turning up to a work site in this? hell my friend turned out on a construction site with a hyundai elantra and they put gaypride flags all over it.. he started taking his rollerblades after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 (edited) hell my friend turned out on a construction site with a hyundai elantra and they put gaypride flags all over it.. he started taking his rollerblades after. 555 Well, the big take-out is that if you ever get asked to be part of a Mazda focus group, it would be wise to decline, otherwise you'll likely find yourself in a room full of crossdressers, complete weirdos and misfits Edited July 12, 2011 by MoonRiverOasis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Here's some more T6 Ranger information, courtesy of Ford Australia: 2.2L 4cyl TD - 150HP, 375Nm 3.2L 5cyl TD - 200HP, 470Nm Length: 5375mm Width: 1850mm Height: 1720mm / 1830mm Tray width: 1510mm Tray height: 514mm Tray Length: 1783mm (opencab), 1485 (doublecab) Rear Leg room: 736mm (opencab), 800mm (doublecab) Fuel Economy (ADR combined cycle): 2.2L 6MT - 11.8km/L 2.2L 6AT - 11.1km/L 3.2L 6MT - 10.5km/L 3.2L 6AT - 10.0km/L Revised fuel economy figures: 2.2L 6MT RWD - 13.2 KM/L 3.2L 6AT 4WD - 10.4 KM/L And a few other tidbits: Fuel Tank is 80L, giving the 2.2L 6MT a range of over 1000km 2.5L gasoline engine has been designed to be LPG friendly, and makes 166HP/226Nm 6AT features two different driving modes, and a sequential shifter Door pockets can hold 1.5L water bottles Dual zone climate control on top models Payload capacity on lower models is 1500KG ESP can be partially disabled to allow oversteer while maintinign ABS and traction control Heavy braking automatically engages hazard lights Rearview camera is embedded into the ford emblem on the tailgate And some useless stats for good measure: The total investment for it's design has topped $1.8 billion There have been 450 engineers invlolved in it's development It has undertaken 9000 crash simulations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 (edited) I take it there will be an auto option on the 2.2? Edited July 12, 2011 by stefan2519 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I take it there will be an auto option on the 2.2? Yes Sorry for the confusion - at this stage I only have updated FE figures for 2 out of 5 variants, not the whole lot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Oh, and one more update.. Thai models do in fact have carpet - that photo with the plastic floor must have been a prototype.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 (edited) I've been doing some reading on the 6R60-6R80 transmissions, I think that's the best single feature that's going for the Ranger. The sequential shifter on an auto truck is a big plus for me, if I use it all that often is another matter but at least I'd have the option. Edited July 12, 2011 by stefan2519 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I've been doing some reading on the 6R60-6R80 transmissions, I think that's the best single feature that's going for the Ranger. The sequential shifter on an auto truck is a big plus for me, if I use it all that often is another matter but at least I'd have the option. Yep, the 6AT is great - does some cool things like detecting when you're going uphill, and holding revs higher before shifting, same for downhill, but with more agressive downshift, and on the highway, detects when cruising and prefers highest cog possible - much closer to the way a human uses a manual than other AT's in the segment/price range. Not as sweet as my 8AT though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I've been doing some reading on the 6R60-6R80 transmissions, I think that's the best single feature that's going for the Ranger. The sequential shifter on an auto truck is a big plus for me, if I use it all that often is another matter but at least I'd have the option. Yep, the 6AT is great - does some cool things like detecting when you're going uphill, and holding revs higher before shifting, same for downhill, but with more agressive downshift, and on the highway, detects when cruising and prefers highest cog possible - much closer to the way a human uses a manual than other AT's in the segment/price range. Not as sweet as my 8AT though Porsche or BMW? Don't hold us all in suspense........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriouseats Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Saw a brand new FairLadyZ with a drunk thai in it.. now thats lucky.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I've been doing some reading on the 6R60-6R80 transmissions, I think that's the best single feature that's going for the Ranger. The sequential shifter on an auto truck is a big plus for me, if I use it all that often is another matter but at least I'd have the option. Yep, the 6AT is great - does some cool things like detecting when you're going uphill, and holding revs higher before shifting, same for downhill, but with more agressive downshift, and on the highway, detects when cruising and prefers highest cog possible - much closer to the way a human uses a manual than other AT's in the segment/price range. Not as sweet as my 8AT though Porsche or BMW? Don't hold us all in suspense........... It's a Porsche. Lucky sod. Very good! In TH or abroad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 (edited) It's a Porsche. Lucky sod. Very good! In TH or abroad? LOS. Cayenne Diesel or Hybrid? They're both very good value in TH presently. I do apologise as off topic! Also not my business, I am out of order. Edited July 12, 2011 by Woodsie888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Cayenne Diesel or Hybrid? They're both very good value in TH presently. I do apologise as off topic! Also not my business, I am out of order. It's a Cayenne Hybrid - I did put a lot of consideration into the RUF RD 30S though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Cayenne Diesel or Hybrid? They're both very good value in TH presently. I do apologise as off topic! Also not my business, I am out of order. It's a Cayenne Hybrid - I did put a lot of consideration into the RUF RD 30S though.. Exceptional value for money in TH in my opinion. Have you had any problems with it? I supplied quite a number of Hybrids locally up until about 6 months ago, now almost 100% diesel though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Exceptional value for money in TH in my opinion. Have you had any problems with it? I supplied quite a number of Hybrids locally up until about 6 months ago, now almost 100% diesel though. Agreed - value for money is fanttastic, given theThai duty/taxation system No problems whatsoever to report, but the fact that you were importing them and are now asking me the question has me a little concerned Anything I should be looking out for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) Exceptional value for money in TH in my opinion. Have you had any problems with it? I supplied quite a number of Hybrids locally up until about 6 months ago, now almost 100% diesel though. Agreed - value for money is fanttastic, given theThai duty/taxation system No problems whatsoever to report, but the fact that you were importing them and are now asking me the question has me a little concerned Anything I should be looking out for? My customers (Thai Dealers) tell me they have had a number of cases where the Hybrid battery has overheated and the vehicle's go into limp home mode. Obviously AAS does not support these cars without suitable remuneration and it has caused a problem to get the codes cleared etc. Anyway the problem is seen as serious enough to stop them ordering Hybrids at all now. Possibly there is some 'pack' mentality here which is unfounded. That is why I asked you, as I knew you would give an honest appraisal. I have also noticed a number of Hybrids sitting for sale in the showrooms whilst the Diesels are being sold around them, so maybe there is an issue. Edited July 13, 2011 by Woodsie888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Exceptional value for money in TH in my opinion. Have you had any problems with it? I supplied quite a number of Hybrids locally up until about 6 months ago, now almost 100% diesel though. Agreed - value for money is fanttastic, given theThai duty/taxation system No problems whatsoever to report, but the fact that you were importing them and are now asking me the question has me a little concerned Anything I should be looking out for? My customers (Thai Dealers) tell me they have had a number of cases where the Hybrid battery has overheated and the vehicle's go into limp home mode. Obviously AAS does not support these cars without suitable remuneration and it has caused a problem to get the codes cleared etc. Anyway the problem is seen as serious enough to stop them ordering Hybrids at all now. Possibly there is some 'pack' mentality here which is unfounded. That is why I asked you, as I knew you would give an honest appraisal. I have also noticed a number of Hybrids sitting for sale in the showrooms whilst the Diesels are being sold around them, so maybe there is an issue. Interesting.. Mine's not a daily driver, and never gets the chance to sit in traffic etc, so perhaps that explains it... When I do drive it, I drive it pretty hard though - mainly highway and mounatin driving though (it's my weekend tripper). Was thing of replacing it when the new Q7 arrives, so hope it remains trouble-free until then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) Exceptional value for money in TH in my opinion. Have you had any problems with it? I supplied quite a number of Hybrids locally up until about 6 months ago, now almost 100% diesel though. Agreed - value for money is fanttastic, given theThai duty/taxation system No problems whatsoever to report, but the fact that you were importing them and are now asking me the question has me a little concerned Anything I should be looking out for? My customers (Thai Dealers) tell me they have had a number of cases where the Hybrid battery has overheated and the vehicle's go into limp home mode. Obviously AAS does not support these cars without suitable remuneration and it has caused a problem to get the codes cleared etc. Anyway the problem is seen as serious enough to stop them ordering Hybrids at all now. Possibly there is some 'pack' mentality here which is unfounded. That is why I asked you, as I knew you would give an honest appraisal. I have also noticed a number of Hybrids sitting for sale in the showrooms whilst the Diesels are being sold around them, so maybe there is an issue. Interesting.. Mine's not a daily driver, and never gets the chance to sit in traffic etc, so perhaps that explains it... When I do drive it, I drive it pretty hard though - mainly highway and mounatin driving though (it's my weekend tripper). Was thing of replacing it when the new Q7 arrives, so hope it remains trouble-free until then.. Q7 is also a great car, sharing almost the same platform with Touareg & Cayenne as you already know, so you'll like that too. So let's hope the next one looks a little more attractive! Then the resale might be much better than the current version. Of course if you need 7 seats..... you have no choice. You may also have noticed some new model Hybrid Touareg's have appeared in the local market. This conversation probably should be in a separate post. I'm sure somebody will comment about it. Edited July 13, 2011 by Woodsie888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 This conversation probably should be in a separate post. I'm sure somebody will comment about it. yepp, off topic, make a new thread on euro suv if you wish back to T6 please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriouseats Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 did i just see MRO's porshe @ farang restaurant @ phuket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 No news to date! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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