Law Prohibiting Marriage To Foreigners Over The Age Of 50 Proposed To Thai Cabinet

[kenny999]

Cambodia just passed the sale rule/law and has does the same in the past. So it would not surprise me if it is actually true.

Personally i am kind of split on the opinion.

One one hand its wrong of any government to impose age restrictions on peoples personal life

But on the other hand, i do see the logic.

I do not think anyone in their right mind marries only for the purpose of visa, so i would rule that out as a reason. Only because Thailand is not exactly USA,or other Western countries, being married does not give anything for a foreigner.

Yes perhaps less money to show, but lets be real, when a young girl marries a guy double or tripe her age most of the time its not the love motivator but rather the "support" so it cost the husband much more in support payments for the wife, her family and everyone else who can get a piece of the pie.

Personally besides physical attraction, i do not see how some guys can get married and stay with the girl 1/3 of his age as not only there is not much in common but also the energy levels are so far apart.

I am in mid 30's and can not stay with a girl 18-20, only because they drive me mental with the lack of common sense and a desire to be out all the time. I do not blame them, when i was same age i also had an energy to be out all night, then go to work in the morning and do this for few days straight.

Anyhow, if it is true, hopefully they will make clear regulations of the allowed age difference and consequences for breaching it. Also what happens to already married people.

Personally besides physical attraction, i do not see how some guys can get married and stay with the girl 1/3 of his age as not only there is not much in common but also the energy levels are so far apart.

Lol My 31 yr old Gf likes to sleep alot I am the one who likes to be active every minute of the day(55)

[Berkshire]

I'd tend to believe this to be a 1 April prank. Because the "law" would make absolutely no sense on so many levels...unenforceable, unethical, unfair, unwise, irrational, illogical.....etc., etc.

[bigbadwolf]

It's fine...

It only applies to straight marriages. The sexpats can just marry an eighteen year old boy instead of an eighteen year old girl.

Fifteen bottles of Heineken and they feel the same anyway...

April Fool.Thanks George

[JackSterling]

Why are so many people here so bloody silly and stupid at the same time??

WHY get married?? just live together.. I have done this method since I was a kid.. It works out better..

[ding]

I better log before I get banned. I need to change my Mamy Poco's anyway...

[Queue]

Hasn't anyone cottoned on to today's date?

You've all been fooled.

All you worried over 50's - relax.

[featography]

So instead of trying to introduce such a disgraceful law, if Mr Tawatchai Suksoom believes the problem is that people are trying to circumvent visa rules why don't they simply change the visa requirement to be 800K in the bank? I guess as that would be a simple solution it illustrates that is not what Mr Tawatchai Suksoom really thinks. He is simply a racist bigot who is insecure and trying to make his name by promoting a nationalist bill.

The idea of the bill is as disgusting as the comment in the post by trodgers

And there will be a baby boom of half breed bastards on the laps of the government - because he is not permitted to get married by law.

Is there a need for such a term in a 21st century world?

As they say in the States, it's calling a spade a spade, or in the poster's phrase, calling a spade a F#$%ing shovel. Same same

[thaikahuna]

This will probably go over like a turd in the punchbowl in Isaan!

[brahmburgers]

One time, while coming in on a jet from the US, I couldn't help but overhear a conversation. A dangerously attractive, experienced, around 30 yr.old, Thai lady was having a lively conversation with a first-timer traveling man from the States. Apparently, he had asked her if there were marriageable ladies (like her) available in Thailand. The Thai lady went on and on about all the great venues for finding ladies (let's face it guys, 90%+ of farang/Thai relationships start in bars). She gave him her number and was exceedingly charming in all the right ways. She was going to be his personal guide, show him Patpong, etc etc.

After they said their drawn out goodbye, I went over and asked her if she could help me in a similar manner. She sized me up (dressed like a farmer), and asked how long I'd been in Thailand. I said 8 years. She grinned and turned on her heel, "goodbye."

Moral to this story: scamming gals want to meet the guys 'just off the boat.'

P.s. I'm almost 60 and I kissed a 16 yr old Burmese gal the other day. She wanted to keep kissing, but I had to reluctantly push her away - 'mai supap' I said. ('not proper' in Thai) I told her.

Edited April 1, 2011 by brahmburgers

[dunkin2012]

... The boys are available..... (Alternative)

Don't lament over

[FarangKenStine]

After reading this News great sadness has washed over me.

I am 51 and in love with my TEE-LACK. She and I were to marry but now it is too late.

She was not like the other girls. Although she worked on Soi Cowboy when I met her, she never hooked.

Although 29 years separates us in age, she loved me because of my high degree of handsomeness and not for

my money.

I guess I have no choice but to TAKE MY OWN LIFE.

Thankyou Thaivisa for all the news, good and bad.... this Bad, yet accurate, news comes at a bad time for me.

Gooooooooooooooood Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[prakhonchai nick]

This might have been the best wind-up of the decade!

Almost certainly is, since your post and my reply will be removed within seconds!

[jamora]

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<br />So if you only have 400,000 in the bank, you are a burden on Thailand <img src='http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <br /><br />Looks like i am a BIG burden.<br />

<br /><br /><br />Amazing we foriegners are a burden with only 400,000  that's a joke. How many thai people do you know who make over 40,000 baht a month ( 40,000 x 12 =  480,000 -  taxes of about 80,000) none the average salary here for a master's degreed professional if they are real fortunate is 20,000 most make about 12,000 to 18,000. So I guess all thai citizens are a burden on thier own country according to this article.<br />

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Just to inform you, the average income for the approx. 6 million people living in Bangkok, is approximately 400,000 THB per year. Among the people I know (including my wife, her family and all our friends) I don't know a single one who earns less than 75,000 THB per month. So not all Thais are a burden, just the same way that not all foreigners are a burden.

[Tewkes]

April Fools

Mods deleting any post saying so it seems which is absolute genius. Best laugh for ages.

[alyx]

Two remarks/questions

1) Some of you think that it would be better to raise the bank acoount from 400K to 800K: don't you think that 400K is already difficult to show for some couples starting in life? Furthermore marrried couples are asked to document their case in details every year ( I am not married but from what I have heard these formalities are some kind of a pain in the neck)

2) Would you please explain why some of the posters refer to" enter a same sex relationship" , or declare their partner a Khatoey, as a way to get married ? As far as I know same sex union are not recognised in Thailand

As for me, I am over 50, I have been engaged in a strong relationship for 17 years (well, it will be 17 years in a couple of months), I am not married and unfortunately unable /. not allowed to tie the knot .....but that is another story

From my point of view wrong law , wrong motives, wrong target

[John71]

I can see numerous Thai ladies being very disappointed, if it ever becomes law and is enforced. What would be the punishment, other than than the pain of learning to deal with a money hungry, poor Thai family? Does that mean with only 400,000 baht in the bank, you're not enough of a walking ATM machine? I guess marriages in wats/temples will still be ok, so hungry/greedy/lazy families can keep fleecing unsuspecting/unaware foreigners anway. Som num na

quick, before they pass this law.

you can easily divorce anytime in the future.

on the second thought, over 50 you can get a retirement visa, no need to marry

[Thaddeus]

This might have been the best wind-up of the decade!

It's good but the 7-11 internet access dongle was better.

[tijnebijn]

April Fools

Mods deleting any post saying so it seems which is absolute genius. Best laugh for ages.

childish , when the joke is over its over , no need to delete my replies .

[Deez]

More stupid insanity from the Thai Government. Amazing.

Agreed. Its amazing how far up their a$$ their heads are. How is someone who spends 400K-800K+/year a burden?

[arrowsdawdle]

Hmmmm, today is the first of April. What is that called again?

[seri thai]

"In many cases they are old enough to be their father" ( or grandfather) but hey, I'm not casting stones.

"If these people don't have enough money to retire then they shouldn't be here and become a burden to Thailand," I'm not sure how farangs who don't have 800,000 baht in the bank can be a burden. It's not like in the U.S., where a quite a few Thai's draw welfare checks and food stamps, which they don't have in Thailand. I would need an explanation on that statement please.

How about they put that proposal on a nation wide ballot. Think it would fly?

For those of you who have woken up and found this mornings news troubling there may be a loophole to be exploited in the Nakhon No Whea byelaw reproduced below:

My loose transliteration follows:

เป็นเวลาหลายปีที่ผ่านมาเมื่อหลายตอนนี้ผม 23

ฉันได้แต่งงานกับหญิงม่ายที่เป็นคนน่ารักเป็นได้

แม่หม้ายนี้มีลูกสาวโตเป็นผู้ใหญ่ที่มีผมสีแดง

พ่อของฉันตกหลุมรักและเร็ว ๆ นี้พวกเขาก็มีแต่งงานของเธอ

โอ้ผมคุณปู่ของฉันเอง

ฉัน granpa ของฉันเอง

เสียงมันตลกฉันรู้ว่า

แต่มันคือเรื่องจริงดังนั้น

โอ้ผมคุณปู่ของฉันเอง

นี้ทำให้พ่อของฉันบุตรของฉันในกฎหมายและได้เปลี่ยนชีวิตของฉันมาก

ลูกสาวของฉันถูกทำให้แม่ของฉันเธอเป็นภรรยาของพ่อของฉัน

หากต้องการความซับซ้อนเรื่องแม้ว่าจะนำความสุขฉัน

ฉันเร็วเป็นพ่อของเด็กผู้ชายแข็งแรง

ทารกน้อยของผมแล้วกลายเป็นพี่เขยเพื่อพ่อ

จึงกลายเป็นลุงของผม แต่มันทำให้ฉันเสียใจมาก

เพราะถ้าเขาเป็นลุงของผมแล้วว่าเขาทำยัง br'ther

ของลูกสาวผู้หลักผู้ใหญ่ของหญิงม่ายที่ยังเป็นแม่เลี้ยงของฉัน

ภรรยาของพ่อแล้วมีลูกชายที่เก็บไว้ที่ทำงาน

และเขาก็กลายเป็นหลานของฉันสำหรับเขาเป็นบุตรธิดาของฉัน

ภรรยาของฉันตอนนี้แม่แม่ของฉันและมันทำให้ฉันสีน้ำเงิน

เพราะแม้ว่า'เธอเป็นภรรยาของฉัน, เธอเป็นยายของฉันเกินไป

ตอนนี้ถ้าภรรยาของผมเป็นย่าของฉันแล้วฉันหลานเธอ

และทุกครั้งที่ผมคิดว่าทุกคนก็เกือบไดรฟ์ผมป่า

สำหรับตอนนี้ฉันได้กลายเป็นกรณีที่แปลกประหลาดที่สุดที่ฉันเคยเห็น

เป็นสามีของคุณยายของฉันฉันคุณปู่ของฉันเอง

My loose transliteration follows:

Now many many years ago when I was twenty-three

I was married to a widow who was pretty as can be

This widow had a grown-up daughter who had hair of red

My father fell in love with her and soon they too were wed

This made my dad my son-in-law and changed my very life

My daughter was my mother 'cause she was my father's wife

To complicate the matter even though it brought me joy

I soon became the father of a bouncing baby boy

My little baby then became a brother-in-law to Dad

And so became my uncle, though it made me very sad

For if he was my uncle, then that also made him br'ther

Of the widow's grown-up daughter who was also my stepmother

Father's wife then had a son who kept them on the run

And he became my grandchild, for he was my daughter's son

My wife is now my mother's mother and it makes me blue

Because altho' she is my wife, she's my grandmother too

Now if my wife is my grandmother, then I'm her grandchild

And every time I think of it, it nearly drives me wild

For now I have become the strangest case I ever saw

As husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpa

Oh I'm my own grandpa

I'm my own granpa

It sounds funny I know,

But it really is so

Oh I'm my own grandpa

[softgeorge]

It's fine...

It only applies to straight marriages. The sexpats can just marry an eighteen year old boy instead of an eighteen year old girl.

Fifteen bottles of Heineken and they feel the same anyway...

It would take 15 truck loads of whiskey or more before I would stick my jolly roger into a male. I will leave that for the gay community.

but madi gras in Sydney is amazingly fun....

Never been to Sydney, thanks for the warning

[givenall]

i guess My ex paid the minster, since she really got peessed off whenI left her for a younger Thai gal

[eagleflyinghigh]

Dear webfact, your 1st April joke was so credible that most people fell for it.

Congratulations, but sad for Thailand that Thai Visa forum members believe such thing would be possible in Thailand. We are not in Cambodia aren't we .

Anyway, just marry abroad in your home country as we gay people have to do already......

[parryg]

How can you be a burden on a society that has no national health or social security system, Thais get no help from the system, Westerners have no chance of getting anything from the system, if you're dying you get a big bill or no help. Exactly how are you a burden?

[parryg]

How can you be a burden on a society that has no national health or social security system, Thais get no help from the system, Westerners have no chance of getting anything from the system, if you're dying you get a big bill or no help. Exactly how are you a burden?

[Pi Sek]

I'm in my thirties, so this is not a big deal for me. But what is a big deal is that the Ministry of Interior, headed by Interior Minister Chaovarat (leader of Bhum Jai Thai party) are honestly suggesting that this is not acceptable in Thai society. Thais marry older men - often as old as their fathers. In fact, a very traditional ex-girlfriend (a hi-so, by the way) of mine didn't want to marry me because she wanted a husband about 20 years older than her. Her sister married someone 25 years older than her. Her dad, now deceased, was much older than her mum. I was only 9 years older than her.

Also it's ridiculous to claim that these marriages are for financial reasons on the part of the foreign hubby. It costs far more than 400,000 Baht to get married, unless you find a Thai that doesn't mind losing face to her family and getting married without a big hullaballoo.

[alyx]

<br />

<br />So if you only have 400,000 in the bank, you are a burden on Thailand <img src='http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <br /><br />Looks like i am a BIG burden.<br />

<br /><br /><br />Amazing we foriegners are a burden with only 400,000 that's a joke. How many thai people do you know who make over 40,000 baht a month ( 40,000 x 12 = 480,000 - taxes of about 80,000) none the average salary here for a master's degreed professional if they are real fortunate is 20,000 most make about 12,000 to 18,000. So I guess all thai citizens are a burden on thier own country according to this article.<br />

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Just to inform you, the average income for the approx. 6 million people living in Bangkok, is approximately 400,000 THB per year. Among the people I know (including my wife, her family and all our friends) I don't know a single one who earns less than 75,000 THB per month. So not all Thais are a burden, just the same way that not all foreigners are a burden.

Wow....an average 33 K ? per month ? in Bangkok (ah yes Bangkok this little country whose capital is called Thailand)

I wish I could live there in the center of Bangkok where everyone is getting this amount (average of course) . I unfortunately live in the suburbs (Silom to me more precise) and I see people working all day in markets, supermarkets and streets for a third of what you are quoting (in average again)

Please introduce me to your family's member....mine are barely making the 8.000 baht a month

(I am not talking about being a burden or not as it is another matter but your comment seems so inapprorpriate)

[avalonmick]

Or their heads in the place where some people keep their Heineken bottles, apparently.

I am concerned that these people are attempting to circumvent the rules by marrying innocent Thai women.

Seems some people really do have their heads in the clouds.

[hkt83100]

After reading through about 4 pages of comments I just looked at my calendar...