Law Prohibiting Marriage To Foreigners Over The Age Of 50 Proposed To Thai Cabinet

[prakhonchai nick]

Whilst this is almost certainly an April Fools Joke, it must be borne in mind that this same law has only within the last month come into play in Cambodia. It is quite conceivable therefore, that for similar reasons to Cambodia, it will at some stage be brought into law here

[philliphn]

Doing this rich 55 year old a favor.

LOL, LOL, LOL

I see a lot of positive consequences for expats:

Solly tilak,no sin sot,no house on your name.Cannot marry you

[dasy]

And what about a young foreigner marrying an old trout?

[brewsterbudgen]

Yes. Thailand should bring in this law to prohibit older Farangs and other foreigners from marrying very young women .

I have seen some farangs with young wives who could be their grand daughters!.

Laos and Cambodia have enacted these law: why not Thailand.

Wow! You must realy hate foriegners. What did one of your daughters marry an older man? or did you sell her to him?

What ever the reason if they are in love what is wrong?

IF Laos and Cambodia hadn't come up with this law, Thailand wouldn't either. Just another classic example of how Thailand doesn't lead but merely 'follows' its supposed lower class neighbours.

How many MP's in Thailand have young mia nois?

Apart from that its a violation of human rights......Oh wait Thailand doesnt recognise human rights does it?

It's not the law in Laos.

[thailand49]

Sometimes like in the U.S. I wonder how the heck some individual even get to be a government representative? Mister Suksoom is a idiot and I'm being kind! First you don't even know your own current law and the reason many get married. In general why would one want to get married and put up with all culture having to support the entired clan when one can butterfly. I suggest you get some data instead of talking from the other end. Your people are dying each day from accidents last time I saw a article 12,000 per year along with another 200 billion lost from coruption from government and now you want to be like Cambodia and Laos.

We foreigners are not perfect and many cause trouble but compare to want I hear and see a Thai man is doing much better? Maybe you ought to look around particularly in the mirror and see how many Thai women have babies and where is the father ? They are gone no requirement to pay child support or even come visit them while they just move on to another. With everything that is going on with your country we are the problem that national attention is needed in this area.

Get real and get a life!

[cangetman]

I am concerned that these people are attempting to circumvent the rules by marrying innocent Thai women.

Seems some people really do have their heads in the clouds.

Yes, innocent indeed... Thai can do no wrong. Why don't they go whole hog and forbid old boys fraternizing with younger girls.

/ On relflection, that 'innocent' should have given it away, though it wouldn't surprise me.

[auserb]

Yes. Thailand should bring in this law to prohibit older Farangs and other foreigners from marrying very young women .

I have seen some farangs with young wives who could be their grand daughters!.

Laos and Cambodia have enacted these law: why not Thailand.

Wow! You must realy hate foriegners. What did one of your daughters marry an older man? or did you sell her to him?

What ever the reason if they are in love what is wrong?

IF Laos and Cambodia hadn't come up with this law, Thailand wouldn't either. Just another classic example of how Thailand doesn't lead but merely 'follows' its supposed lower class neighbours.

How many MP's in Thailand have young mia nois?

Apart from that its a violation of human rights......Oh wait Thailand doesnt recognise human rights does it?

It's not the law in Laos.

yes, why do you hait us/

we are just old innocent buzzerds,

let us live our lives the way we enjoy

god bless Thai young ladies......na krap

and yes....

what will happened to us who have children with thai lady and not maried as yet, will we be able to marry and have our children to bear our surnames I hope you understand me

Edited April 1, 2011 by auserb

[jamora]

Maybe a sliding scale would have been a better idea...

i.e at 50 you can only marry someone over 35

at 51 - 36

at 52 - 37

etc etc...

Never the less, this is a positive move by Thailand's government.

Could not agree more with you (I am however afraid that this is a joke). Your sliding scale would probably be more fair, but the proposal would at least better than nothing!

[Tatsujin]

Just to educate you. I have social security, medical benefits from the government and interest on my bank accounts.

Probably the biggest benefit is that they let us stay here.

You're obviously not a Director then, cos if I understood it correctly, you can't get social or medical as soon as you become a "Director" . . . the interest on my bank accounts doesn't really make much difference to me as I've not got a lot in there lol

[backsoon]

Personally, this new coming legislation does not affect me.

The retroactive impact will hit a lot of THAIS, not me or any DEAD foreigner.

The human rights aspect will hit the COUNTRY and it's current POLITICIANS, but who really cares?

I would really love to see one day a PINK movement (Party) parading for their money from old dead foreigners.

Finally, I am trying to think just how this country is going to remedy the cultural effects of Thai men impregnating innocent Thai girls and leaving the aftercare to old stupid foreigners?:jap:

[pepi2005]

I think this move is good for foreigners - it will protect many old and naive men from losing most of their their lifelong savings to the greedy and exploitive Thai families in Issaan at the end.

Thank you, Mr. Tawatchai!

[007]

Just to inform you, the average income for the approx. 6 million people living in Bangkok, is approximately 400,000 THB per year. Among the people I know (including my wife, her family and all our friends) I don't know a single one who earns less than 75,000 THB per month. So not all Thais are a burden, just the same way that not all foreigners are a burden.

Yes, I can confirm that I see each day only wealthy Thais walking and sitting around (some of them without shirt - I mean the men): lottery ticket sellers, trash collectors, beggars, conductors, sales staff: they all make at least 75,000 baht a month!! :lol:

Official statistics (source: http://www.chiangmai-chiangrai.com/guess-no-more.html) show that the average monthly income per household for Bangkok plus four neighbouring provinces was (2006) : 17,787 Baht. Does anyone have newer statistics? If not, let's presume that the salary increase over the past five years has been 50%, then the average salary these days could be 26,680 baht, with unskilled workers, maids, construction workers, etc. making more like 6,000 baht, while others like businessmen, engineers, doctors and bargirls making 100,000...

[Lancelot]

I think this move is good for foreigners - it will protect many old and naive men from losing most of their their lifelong savings to the greedy and exploitive Thai families in Issaan at the end.

Thank you, Mr. Tawatchai!

I agree and would expand the idea to men living in the USA. Sure would save on the alimony payments

[willwildy]

Personally, this new coming legislation does not affect me.

The retroactive impact will hit a lot of THAIS, not me or any DEAD foreigner.

The human rights aspect will hit the COUNTRY and it's current POLITICIANS, but who really cares?

I would really love to see one day a PINK movement (Party) parading for their money from old dead foreigners.

Finally, I am trying to think just how this country is going to remedy the cultural effects of Thai men impregnating innocent Thai girls and leaving the aftercare to old stupid foreigners?:jap:

[mark45y]

Given the amount of simpletons, still replying to this in a serious manner, it is no wonder so many of you couldn't find a wife your own age in your own country in the first place.

It was a good joke, but the fact of the matter is, it would be a fantastic law.

I think you will find that most of the simpletons

Had a wife but couldn't keep her;

He went to Pattaya and found another.

And in Thailand he kept her very very well.

[Junglejumbo]

I've had a good laugh reading it. So if the girl can prove she's not innocent does it make a difference? How about if the couple is at a similar age give or take 10 years?

Shame in a way for those affected. I think that they should see things from the girl's point of view more otherwise they'll be turning "innocent" girls into mistresses and helpless children to being bastards.

[jamora]

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<br />So if you only have 400,000 in the bank, you are a burden on Thailand <img src='http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <br /><br />Looks like i am a BIG burden.<br />

<br /><br /><br />Amazing we foriegners are a burden with only 400,000 that's a joke. How many thai people do you know who make over 40,000 baht a month ( 40,000 x 12 = 480,000 - taxes of about 80,000) none the average salary here for a master's degreed professional if they are real fortunate is 20,000 most make about 12,000 to 18,000. So I guess all thai citizens are a burden on thier own country according to this article.<br />

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Just to inform you, the average income for the approx. 6 million people living in Bangkok, is approximately 400,000 THB per year. Among the people I know (including my wife, her family and all our friends) I don't know a single one who earns less than 75,000 THB per month. So not all Thais are a burden, just the same way that not all foreigners are a burden.

Let's see some factual evidence for these rather amazing claims of untold wealth in Bkk.

You can find most of it in a little book called Pocket Thailand in Figures (it is however not very well updated), or through Chulalongkorns databases, The BOT's publications and The Ministry of Finance. The actual GPP with PPP of Bangkok is nearly 22,000 USD per capita per year. The numbers include everyone registered in Bangkok.

[KKK]

He added that the measure is not discriminatory as it will apply to both men and women

Only if it applies to all nationalities...if they single out Farang then it is discriminatory as well as racist.

Discrimination

treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.

Racism

a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

[frankybaby43]

Watch out! If this law is passed, there will be a rush of over 50 year old foreign men into Thailand.

And there will be a baby boom of half breed bastards on the laps of the government - because he is not permitted to get married by law.

absolutely ridiculous and discriminatory.pure xenophobia

I am over 50, my Thai girlfriend is pregnant with our baby, we planned to get married end of year once I get divorced from foreign wife. I have my company ,visa and work permit , pay taxes and need no retirement or marriage visa to stay in Thailand

[willwildy]

"Finally, I am trying to think just how this country is going to remedy the cultural effects of Thai men impregnating innocent Thai girls and leaving the aftercare to old stupid foreigners?:jap:"

I am truly laughing my fat white arse off on this one. Thanks for cutting to the core of the issue.

Maybe as a rider on the bill they will start welfare payments to all the single moms of 10,000 baht per child.

I honestly think they are doing us farangs a huge favor. We will be prevented by law from legally tying ourselves down to just one. Thank you thailand and keep protecting those innocent young thai girls ;-) Don't get me wrong I love em but if they are innocent then they were born with an inate ability to empty me wallet.

[willwildy]

He added that the measure is not discriminatory as it will apply to both men and women

Only if it applies to all nationalities...if they single out Farang then it is discriminatory as well as racist.

Discrimination

treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.

Racism

a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

Why would you want to marry one anyway? Remember if you fly it, float it, or fek it it's always cheaper to rent it.

[jamora]

Just to inform you, the average income for the approx. 6 million people living in Bangkok, is approximately 400,000 THB per year. Among the people I know (including my wife, her family and all our friends) I don't know a single one who earns less than 75,000 THB per month. So not all Thais are a burden, just the same way that not all foreigners are a burden.

Yes, I can confirm that I see each day only wealthy Thais walking and sitting around (some of them without shirt - I mean the men): lottery ticket sellers, trash collectors, beggars, conductors, sales staff: they all make at least 75,000 baht a month!! :lol:

Official statistics (source: http://www.chiangmai-chiangrai.com/guess-no-more.html) show that the average monthly income per household for Bangkok plus four neighbouring provinces was (2006) : 17,787 Baht. Does anyone have newer statistics? If not, let's presume that the salary increase over the past five years has been 50%, then the average salary these days could be 26,680 baht, with unskilled workers, maids, construction workers, etc. making more like 6,000 baht, while others like businessmen, engineers, doctors and bargirls making 100,000...

Try to read the statictics again

"Average Monthly Income per Household (2006) : 17,787 Baht Five Provinces having Highest Average Household monthly

Income : Nonthaburi, Bangkok, Samoot Prakan, Samoot Sakorn, Pathoom Thani"

To help you a bit, it states that the average monthly income in THAILAND is 17,787 THB per month as of 2006. Then it states the the five highest income provinces are Nonthaburi, Bangkok, Samoot Prakan, Samoot Sakorn and Pathoom Thani.

Remember that maids, taxi drivers, construction workers etc. are rarely registered residents in Bangkok. I never said that everybody earns more than 75,000 (which you would have known if you knew how to divide), I merely stated that to my knowledge many earn that much and much more!

Edited April 1, 2011 by jamora

[Expat1]

Well, this is not totally unexpected. If the Cambodians are doing it the Thais must keep up, otherwise they would lose face. If one is old enough and was here in the 1990's you shall remember the purges by the upper caste Khunyings of prostitutes and other Thai females that were seen with expats . Some of those highly noble women even got before Parliament to encourage this noble crusade. However, they took great pains to ensure not to encroach on Thai brothels or massage parlors where Thais and Asians went. Only European/Amer based areas were to be effected. The racism in Asia leaves anything one may have seen in the West far behind. But you get use to it.

I wouldn't lose too much sleep over this issue, gentlemen. They will make it a law shortly and for a time it shall be enforced but then in time it shall be forgot and it will be business as usual like so many laws before it. Hey, lest we forget why such edicts are issued, this is a great law for the bureaucrats and police of the future to extort money from old men who are dying to marry a Thai girl don't forget. They are not about to miss an opportunity like this.

[Ijustwannateach]

First of April isnt it?

Well done 'crazyswede'

I can't believe it went 22 pages before someone worked it out.

Chances are it didn't, but 3-4 mods went mothering over the topic and removing all the early calls.

I think that's cheating: not clever enough to do an 'organic troll', so there is a need to resort to keeping things going artificially, keeping posts only from all the idiots.

Secondly: It's a topic of the kind that would normally be locked. So even when people know it's BS, it's still an excellent chance to vent the usual anti Thai and/or misogynist crap.

Actually, I can confirm that that is mostly NOT the case!

I am a bit surprised at the number of posts by members on this very page which are STILL in the dark....

[retell]

"Many older foreigners seem to marry Thai women so they can stay in Thailand under less strict requirements. Instead of needing to meet the requirements of 800,000 baht in the bank they only have to show 400,000 baht a year when married to a Thai. Additionally, many of these people seem to come to Thailand simply to marry much younger girls. In many cases they are old enough to be their father. I am concerned that these people are attempting to circumvent the rules by marrying innocent Thai women. If these people don't have enough money to retire then they shouldn't be here and become a burden to Thailand," Tawatchai Suksoom of the Ministry of Interior stated.

This is just wrong on so many levels.

Don't they know that getting married will cost a lot more than 400,000 baht. So reducing the financial requirement would hardly be valid reason to get married.

Don' they also know that in many cases they are old enough to be their grand father.

But the main reason it's wrong - "Innocent Thai Women"

what have you been doin

way more then 400000 to get married??

married 2 months ago and cost me all in all roughly 20.000 that includes my 8000 thb hotel for 3 days and diesel for a trip about 1500 km

also what about when i reach the age above 50 ,,im now 38 does my marriage mean nothing anymore for thai law ??

silly things goin on here in the land of smiles

greets

[puipuitom]

Again a proof, farangs in Thailand are only TOLERATED when they leave a lot of money there. Best: simple dump it at the airport and depart again. Even better: transfer is and stay away.

I am so happy I sold my condo in time, and switched all my business away to Sri Lanka and Southern China

[Tatsujin]

Actually, I can confirm that that is mostly NOT the case!

I am a bit surprised at the number of posts by members on this very page which are STILL in the dark....

23 pages and STILL going strong . . . what a surprise, any excuse for a vent for some . . . <grins>

[MUYTHAI]

I knew that the Thai politicians are stupid but that they are so stupid I never imagined........

I always imagined they were this stupid. Their ignorance and stupidity is on display every day in this backward country. First, to all the Thia numb nuts in Parliament, if you are really concerned about the retirement amount, just raise it for men who marry Thai nationals you idiots! It's a pitence to us anyway! The fact is, it just bugs the heck out of you that your women prefer farang of any age over your little shrink-wrapped package! You want to remain free to treat your women like crap and have them do all the work you are all to lazy or stupid (likely both) to do so you have time to play with little boys and ladyboys in your local brothels, drink your days away and gamble away what little baht you do have from whatever scam you were running . As far as the little fatherless bastards that might be created by an old farang who keels over before it's grown, I suspect the geezer will have provided for the wife and child much better than any Thai man is capable of doing. Also here is a heads up for you brain dead little MP droids, just because you all believe 400,000 or 800,000 is alot of money, to most farang of retirement age it is absolutely nothing, and I seriously doubt any farang ever married a Thai girl of any age with this thought in mind. So I guess it will still be perfectly ok for these impotent little lilliputions to cheat on their wives with these young girls or marry them themselves and abuse them. Thailand is a country on the decline in a big way and this will be another huge step towards its demise. Other than your women, you have little else to offer us and you will learn this lesson the hard way.

best frothing rant of the thread...

I believe AZBill is angry that he has had the most sensitive and pleasure-producing portion ('shrink wrap' as he calls it) of his wang amputated. Maybe he is jealous of the ~85% of men on Earth who have whole wangs. April fool and everday fool... some people are.

[upupandaway]

Yes. Thailand should bring in this law to prohibit older Farangs and other foreigners from marrying very young women .

I have seen some farangs with young wives who could be their grand daughters!.

Laos and Cambodia have enacted these law: why not Thailand.

I can see the wisdom ion stopping the marriages with a huge difference in age. That would protect the foreigner.

But what about people like my self with a girlfriend 53 years old (i am 69) who have been living together and for the most part very happily for five years.

I am by no means a Thai basher but it would not surprise me if they had no exceptions to this new law.

[maxtingtong]

I am concerned that these people are attempting to circumvent the rules by marrying innocent Thai women.

Seems some people really do have their heads in the clouds.

this is the most funny

vely vely innocent ka :jap:

as someone else stated, this law is simply draconian. Could have some mean fix a difference of age, but that an over 50 just CANNOT marry ANY thai women it looks really bold