Lenovo Laptops, Z Series

[WebBangkok]

I have used Samsung, Toshiba, HP and Acer laptops in the past but recently thinking about getting a Lenovo laptop as they are supposed to be durable. As I carry my laptop around a lot my Acer that I have now is falling apart, had it for about a year and its rubbish. Looks like if I give it a hard flick, its going to smash into 1000 peices.

So anyone got a Lenovo? Any other laptops you think are good?

No Apple opinions please, I refuse to buy those overpriced crap..

[happyrobert]

Two month old Lenovo Edge ThinkPad, hell connecting to the internet in any way. Crashes 3 x a day. Service Center in BKK told me I had a virus. Wow, amazing considering at that point I had not been able to connect to internet.

Won't save docs w/o trying a half dozen times. Won't download updates.

I'm not a techie, but then, should I need to be to use a f- new computer for emails and Word?

(Yes, I have licensed Windows 7 and Office 2007.)

But then, it is durable because it has endured repeated body slams into the wall due to the above and still boots up!

Bottom line: they all suck and are built to last only so long.

[rakman]

Two month old Lenovo Edge ThinkPad, hell connecting to the internet in any way. Crashes 3 x a day. Service Center in BKK told me I had a virus. Wow, amazing considering at that point I had not been able to connect to internet.

Won't save docs w/o trying a half dozen times. Won't download updates.

I'm not a techie, but then, should I need to be to use a f- new computer for emails and Word?

(Yes, I have licensed Windows 7 and Office 2007.)

But then, it is durable because it has endured repeated body slams into the wall due to the above and still boots up!

Bottom line: they all suck and are built to last only so long.

Sounds like a bad hard drive or memory issue. A machine would get the virus before it stops connecting to the internet, but most viruses want to connect to send your keystrokes to the nasty guys trying to rip you off.

[happyrobert]

Two month old Lenovo Edge ThinkPad, hell connecting to the internet in any way. Crashes 3 x a day. Service Center in BKK told me I had a virus. Wow, amazing considering at that point I had not been able to connect to internet.

Won't save docs w/o trying a half dozen times. Won't download updates.

I'm not a techie, but then, should I need to be to use a f- new computer for emails and Word?

(Yes, I have licensed Windows 7 and Office 2007.)

But then, it is durable because it has endured repeated body slams into the wall due to the above and still boots up!

Bottom line: they all suck and are built to last only so long.

Sounds like a bad hard drive or memory issue. A machine would get the virus before it stops connecting to the internet, but most viruses want to connect to send your keystrokes to the nasty guys trying to rip you off.

They ended up changing the mother board and it now connects but often crashes while lethargically doing so. I never try another operation such as opening a word doc, while waiting to connect.

I must admit, the MacBook Pro 17" I had for 3+ years with Windows on it never had any issues.

[h90]

I had a couple of Acer and it seems the get worse.

I had only problems with Compaq

Yesterday a repair shop told me that the DELL Laptops are bad for his business because never problems....

[TimeBandit2]

@happyrobert

I suggest you run memtest86 - that will tell you if your RAM is bad.

Thais don't understand RAM issues at all. They think that if the system boots it means the RAM is fine. Often they re-use bad sticks that should be thrown away.

1. Google memtest86.

2. Download the .iso disc image.

3. Burn it with imgburn to a CD

4. Boot from the disc.

If it comes up with any errors, you'll know it's that.

[happyrobert]

@happyrobert

I suggest you run memtest86 - that will tell you if your RAM is bad.

Thais don't understand RAM issues at all. They think that if the system boots it means the RAM is fine. Often they re-use bad sticks that should be thrown away.

1. Google memtest86.

2. Download the .iso disc image.

3. Burn it with imgburn to a CD

4. Boot from the disc.

If it comes up with any errors, you'll know it's that.

Thanks, dude! I'll check it out.

[Sheryl]

I got a Lenovo for the same reason you're considering it (durability). Had it not for maybe 3 years, happy with it. Tolerates a lot of abuse.

[sulasno]

I bought a refurnished 3 year old Thinkpad T60 for 6K and I am happy with it

[nikster]

Giving a "hard flick" to any laptop is probably a bad idea.

Maybe you can get a Panasonic Toughbook - that's the real deal mil-spec tough laptop - very expensive, but definitely durable.

The "overpriced crap" MacBook Pro is also built like a tank, or rather like the single block of aluminum it was made from. Good quality costs money, just the way it is. I'd also recommend the higher priced ThinkPads - they used to be indestructible back in the day but I don't know if Lenovo has watered them down since.

All the others are trying to be as cheap as possible and so they won't be good.

Dell - yes, I have heard they've gotten back to what they used to be since Michael Dell came back to the company: Big, ugly, and very sturdy.

HP business line is supposed to be quite good also but hard to find in Thailand. And - shocker! - expensive!

My MacBook Pro 17" is as good as new and nearing the 2 1/2 year mark. I've never had a laptop this long before - this thing gets tossed in a backpack and carried around every day, all day. Rock solid. I particularly love the glass screen - any laptop I have eventually gets the keyboard imprinted on the screen, I squeeze it into a bag or something. Not this one - if the screen gets dirty, I can scrub it down; there is not a single scratch on that big beautiful, bright display! It's still better than any PC laptop display I see in the mall - better colors, brighter, etc. Glass doesn't scratch. Awesome.

[WarpSpeed]

So Dell ok and possibly Lenovo what about HP anyone?

[TimeBandit2]

The biggest problem with laptops aren't specific to any brand - it's that the components are proprietary, non-user serviceable, expensive, and difficult (or impossible in the case of the GPU) to upgrade.

They also must take performance shortcuts to extend battery life. Every nanowatt is an instruction (or several, or a piece of a instruction) executed, but also heat generated and battery drained.

People often end up using their laptops in the same place, over and over again. If that place could accommodate a desktop, then that's a better buy.

[Gary A]

I have a Lenovo Thinkpad T43p. It had light usage for 2 1/2 years and the main board died. They honored the warranty and replaced the main board at no charge. The replacement with light usage lasted 2 years. More than 10,000 baht to replace it so I bought a cheap Acer for 13,800 baht to replace it. My Thai wife uses the laptop for her English lessons so that is her computer. I tried to buy her a desktop but she wasn't having it.

My original Thinkpad 600 is still running. I gave it to a Thai friend of mine and he still uses it. It must be at least 8 years old.

No more Lenovo laptops for me. Apparently the IBM quality is gone.

[apalink_thailand]

You probably know this already but the Lenovo is the old IBM notebook. They are VERY durable and are really meant for the power or business user (in my opinion) and I recommend them highly. The Acer is rubbish. The hardware seems to be of very low quality (CD Rom's die as well as the USB ports) and I know this because it is a common problem on 2 of the Acer notebooks here in my office plus my former Acer notebook. I will be buying a Lenovo very soon for myself and for the office.

[nocturn]

i have a 2 1/2 year old Vaio VGN-FW25.

14+ Inch screen 1600 x 900. still as good as the day i bought it and it is used for for work and pleasure about 14 hours a day, and often downloading all night. bullet proof. would buy another.

[grumpyoldman]

I have a Lenovo G450 laptop, had it about a year, good machine !

The battery did burn up though and I replaced that last week to the tune of 2600thb, but considering I bought the thing for 17,000thb, I feel I still have a good deal.

To the poster regarding HP products, I say no. There is a reason they are getting out of the laptop business (other than everyone kicking their a***es), and the HP desktop I had was a complete piece of scheit.

OP I'm with you on Apple products.....................never could understand all the hype.

[MattCinderey]

I've always used IBM/Lenovo Laptops. In my opinion they're the best machines on the market.

I currently have the Lenovo Thinkpad X220. It's the best laptop I've ever owned. You should check out the reviews on it.

Matt.

[WebBangkok]

Folowing up, I bought a Lenovo z360.

Dropped it once and have had it for 6 months, use it 14 hours a day and it still runs great with little maintenance.

Although I have heard they have overheating issues with the earlier ones made, I hope I got the last batch with it corrected.

[Nignoy]

I only use lenovo x61s notebooks, cheap as chips on ebay , usually pay between 100 and 150 $ australian,keep them for about 18 months and then pass them on to the grandkids for games, they are bombproof, and very reliable, and easy to operate , for me as a complete dummy as far as laptops are concerned, will continue to use them as long as they are available.

[happysanook]

Can't go wrong with Lenovo IMO... You can find Thinkpads for excellent prices on eBay. The Z series, nothing wrong with it either.

[DMC1]

I have a Lenovo G450 laptop, had it about a year, good machine !

The battery did burn up though and I replaced that last week to the tune of 2600thb, but considering I bought the thing for 17,000thb, I feel I still have a good deal.

To the poster regarding HP products, I say no. There is a reason they are getting out of the laptop business (other than everyone kicking their a***es), and the HP desktop I had was a complete piece of scheit.

OP I'm with you on Apple products.....................never could understand all the hype.

So you've owned Apple before then? I had your attitude until I bought one and I ate humble pie - It is an awesome machine (Macbook Pro)

[Trembly]

Lenovo bought IBM's laptop division so as to pick their brains on design and engineering, which has been a big success for Lenovo. They never had any intention of turning their entire PC / Laptop manufacturing operation into a clone of IBM's.

IBM's former premium business laptop (Thinkpad) division are now Lenovo's premium business laptop (Thinkpad) division, and still make very solid machines under the Thinkpad product line. I you're after Thinkpad levels of quality in the other Lenovo product lines you're simply looking in the wrong place.

[Guest]

I have always used IBM/Lenovo as those are durable and the internals are good.

I got Lenovo Thinkpad Edge 320 half an year a go. Now this unit is breaking apart. Hinges and the covers are giving up. The laptop disconnects from the Wifi every now and then (could be OS related as well?).

I have heard similar stories from other people and companies who have used Thinkpad Edge series. From now on I'm keeping away from the Edge.

[Chicog]

Had a Dell XPS for five years, only upgraded it (company PC) because the sound port stopped working - I suspect more to do with the constant plugging and unplugging.

I couldn't do without it for a couple days, so I thought I'd just update, migrate and move on.

Otherwise a solid and dependable machine.

I replaced it with the latest XPS.

My old machine is now sat driving an LED Screen running powerpoint presentations 24/7.