Red Shirts To Continue Activities During Election Period

[MILT]

On May 19, the DAAD will host an event to commemorate a one-year anniversary of last year's bloody end to the mass protest at Ratchaprasong Intersection.

And at that day let us not forget our wrongly accused and jailed leader k. Jatuporn. One of our heroes of the heady days of 'peaceful protesters, not terrorists'. With his masterful slogan 'till the last drop of your blood', let's all wear a T-shirt with a Mahatma Ghandi print

it seems that you only listen to the thai media, cuz outside thailand almost everyone knows that the red shirt are not terrorists,everybody also knows that the guy who push the trigger firts was abhisit who gave the oder of firing against the protester,hmmmmm from now on i should read your posts cuz they are very funny

Then everyone outside of Thailand knows nothing...Most people out side of Thailand really don't give a hoot what goes on in Thailand unless they have travel plans to come here. You are a funny bird as well

[johncat1]

Thida asked red-shirt supporters not to accept money from strangers during the election and to refrain from making accusations without substantiating facts or evidence.

This would be new for them, wouldn't it?

So it is ok for them to accept money from non strangers ( regulars ) ?

Not many Thais worry about substantiating facts or having evidence They love a good story and gossip

[CNXpuuyaibaan]

On May 19, the DAAD will host an event to commemorate a one-year anniversary of last year's bloody end to the mass protest at Ratchaprasong Intersection.

And at that day let us not forget our wrongly accused and jailed leader k. Jatuporn. One of our heroes of the heady days of 'peaceful protesters, not terrorists'. With his masterful slogan 'till the last drop of your blood', let's all wear a T-shirt with a Mahatma Ghandi print

it seems that you only listen to the thai media, cuz outside thailand almost everyone knows that the red shirt are not terrorists,everybody also knows that the guy who push the trigger firts was abhisit who gave the oder of firing against the protester,hmmmmm from now on i should read your posts cuz they are very funny

welcome red newbie, back as a re-run? or a genuine newcomer who wanted to wave a red flag?

either way, i see you have dived straight in to the political fray and ignored the hundreds of other fascinating non political posts on Thaivisa

welcome anyway, you have made it clear in your first post, why you are here..............

I'm sorry you don't like debate and would prefer to keep everything yellow and pro-establishment - and yes anything even slightly criticizing the yellow line get's banned on tv as many have found out according to my friends - many of whom would like to debate but dare not

[CNXpuuyaibaan]

As the BBC independent correspondent said on News24 'the Democrats have been in power for three years without being elected once' and this is the problem - again we will see the majority choice (receiving the majority votes) being pushed aside by minor parties to form a coalition.

Doesn't that go for many coalition governments ?

A majority would be 50.01% or more, the last elections in Thailand in December 2007 didn't show a party with that majority. That's when the minor parties get a change to include 'minority' ideas which might otherwise be ignored, or water down controversial programs. Like the Liberal Democrats in the UK

just pointing out the obvious - that the party with most votes will not get into power - and there will be more trouble as the other parties swing behind the Dems - their paymaster

[anterian]

As long as you do not let yourself get involved Thai elections and their aftermath are some of the most entertaining events in Asia. Some of it follows predictable scripts but in a country of maverick politicians, self seeking generals, corrupt or ineffective police and civil servants, anything can happen, and probably will

"Let the game begin":jap:

[phiphidon]

Thida Thawornset, caretaker chairperson of the Democratic Alliance against Dictatorship or DAAD, denied reports that former prime minister and de facto leader of the Pheu Thai Party Thaksin Shinawatra has asked red-shirt supporters not to attend the party's election campaign rallies.

So he did ask for "red-shirt supporters" to "attend the party's election campaign rallies"???

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An intresting take on the English Language, Buccholz. It had been said that there had been reports that Thaksin had asked the red shirt supporters not to attend the election rallies. Thida denied these reports, i.e Thaksin did not say this. It does not follow that Thaksin therefore did ask them to attend.

Is it that difficult to understand? Even with a background of american English, the meaning is clear.

[johncat1]

The election is just for show "Thai style "

We all know it is really the military and big business that runs this country.

The government is just a figurehead, and if it shows any signs of trying to use it's powers the military will remove it with yet another military coup.

[JulietLima]

This is a disguised election campaign for a certain political Party....whose costs, even sponsored by the said Party, are not imputable to the costs of the regular electoral campaign of this Party.....

[CNXpuuyaibaan]

The election is just for show "Thai style "

We all know it is really the military and big business that runs this country.

The government is just a figurehead, and if it shows any signs of trying to use it's powers the military will remove it with yet another military coup.

yes - this is known to all but rarely people admit it - including on forums

[webfact]

Deputy PM Suthep asks Pheu Thai to prohibit red-shirts from gathering /TAN_Network

[Buchholz]

Thida Thawornset, caretaker chairperson of the Democratic Alliance against Dictatorship or DAAD, denied reports that former prime minister and de facto leader of the Pheu Thai Party Thaksin Shinawatra has asked red-shirt supporters not to attend the party's election campaign rallies.

So he did ask for "red-shirt supporters" to "attend the party's election campaign rallies"???

It had been said that there had been reports that Thaksin had asked the red shirt supporters not to attend the election rallies. Thida denied these reports, i.e Thaksin did not say this. It does not follow that Thaksin therefore did ask them to attend.

the meaning is clear.

There's nothing at all clear.

She's saying that all the many, many reports from a wide variety of sources that reported on Thaksin advice to Red Shirts are all completely false? It's curious as well that she would deny something that is actually a positive for their so-called movement by showing a distancing between Reds and Thaksin.

I also qualified my post with 3 questions AND an "unsure" smiley, so no need to imply that my question was a declarative statement

btw, if you could refrain from including the insults that were edited out of your post in your future postings, that would be a good thing.

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Edited May 13, 2011 by Buchholz

[bulmercke]

Deputy PM Suthep asks Pheu Thai to prohibit red-shirts from gathering /TAN_Network

What! Next Friday?

[hyperdimension]

The bulk of the red shirt movement - which empowers the PTP - simply wants change.

with Thaksin at the helm, it'll be a change for the worse.

Let's just hope the violent elements are prevented from appearing on the scene.

I can't see anything that can salvage their poor reputation. Memories of incitement to violence and then violence that followed it remain.

[CNXpuuyaibaan]

Deputy PM Suthep asks Pheu Thai to prohibit red-shirts from gathering /TAN_Network

same as he did when the yellow shirts gathered?

[rubl]

Deputy PM Suthep asks Pheu Thai to prohibit red-shirts from gathering /TAN_Network

same as he did when the yellow shirts gathered?

K. Suthep wasn't a Deputy Prime Minister at that time, nor were we between House dissolution and new general election.

[phiphidon]

Thida Thawornset, caretaker chairperson of the Democratic Alliance against Dictatorship or DAAD, denied reports that former prime minister and de facto leader of the Pheu Thai Party Thaksin Shinawatra has asked red-shirt supporters not to attend the party's election campaign rallies.

So he did ask for "red-shirt supporters" to "attend the party's election campaign rallies"???

It had been said that there had been reports that Thaksin had asked the red shirt supporters not to attend the election rallies. Thida denied these reports, i.e Thaksin did not say this. It does not follow that Thaksin therefore did ask them to attend.

the meaning is clear.

There's nothing at all clear.

She's saying that all the many, many reports from a wide variety of sources that reported on Thaksin advice to Red Shirts are all completely false? It's curious as well that she would deny something that is actually a positive for their so-called movement by showing a distancing between Reds and Thaksin.

I also qualified my post with 3 questions AND an "unsure" smiley, so no need to imply that my question was a declarative statement

btw, if you could refrain from including the insults that were edited out of your post in your future postings, that would be a good thing.

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I wasn't aware that "american english" was an insult, just a verifiable fact. "America and Great Britain, Two Nations divided by a common language".

[jdinasia]

Deputy PM Suthep asks Pheu Thai to prohibit red-shirts from gathering /TAN_Network

At least for now, we won't have Jatuporn inciting the small crowds the reds can get together

[473geo]

Don't worry.......... there are people on these forums who if they are caught out manipulating statements

Will view a full stop as an ad hominem attack........to try and discredit the poster..

. this full stop is not aimed at anybody in particular.....

As far as peaceful gatherings go, why not, if this is one of the few avenues remaining to promote the party.....

[Buchholz]

So he did ask for "red-shirt supporters" to "attend the party's election campaign rallies"???

It had been said that there had been reports that Thaksin had asked the red shirt supporters not to attend the election rallies. Thida denied these reports, i.e Thaksin did not say this. It does not follow that Thaksin therefore did ask them to attend.

the meaning is clear.

There's nothing at all clear.

She's saying that all the many, many reports from a wide variety of sources that reported on Thaksin advice to Red Shirts are all completely false? It's curious as well that she would deny something that is actually a positive for their so-called movement by showing a distancing between Reds and Thaksin.

I also qualified my post with 3 questions AND an "unsure" smiley, so no need to imply that my question was a declarative statement

btw, if you could refrain from including the insults that were edited out of your post in your future postings, that would be a good thing.

I wasn't aware that "american english" was an insult, just a verifiable fact. "America and Great Britain, Two Nations divided by a common language".

Feel free to look at your post, from 2 days ago, to review all the items that were edited out as well as their tone.

Edited May 15, 2011 by Buchholz

[CNXpuuyaibaan]

Deputy PM Suthep asks Pheu Thai to prohibit red-shirts from gathering /TAN_Network

same as he did when the yellow shirts gathered?

K. Suthep wasn't a Deputy Prime Minister at that time, nor were we between House dissolution and new general election.

irrelevant - he encouraged them

[scorecard]

In this country it is power that breeds legitimacy, not the other way around.

The bulk of the red shirt movement - which empowers the PTP - simply wants change. Not an unusual demand during elections the world over.

No surprise then that they will continue activities during the election period. Let's just hope the violent elements are prevented from appearing on the scene.

Sorry but I dispute your simple blanket statement: ".....The bulk of the red shirt movement - which empowers the PTP - simply wants change."

As said many times in these threads by many people, including me, there is no doubt whatever that Thailand needs change to gain a much better picture of real and healthy democracy without vote buying, a more level playing field for all Thais, much better education, more equal opportunity, more planning on development so that a much much larger % of all Thai have the ability and opportunity to gain a much better quality of life through their own productivity, equal justice, and a lot more.

What I don't agree with is any suggestion that the majority, even 99%, of the red shirt leders have any detailed manifesto of change, but they are good at creating the environment where the unaware in society (not their fault) will follow anything which looks like a handout etc.

Also sadly the unaware don't realize that it should all be a different picture whereby surviving on handouts and more loans (more debt) should not be such a strong part of their lives. Also unfortunately some of yesterdays fellow poor have suddenly got their noses into the feeding trough and are now the next generation of those happy to keep the rest ill informed and poor (Some desperately poor).

I say again, is change needed? YES.