ManU In Decline?

[nev]

getting very nostalgic jjp.

remember the 70's at main rd when we had half the ground and all the seperated united and city was a rope used to go off all game.

Nev,

Maine Road! You're dreaming not being nostalgic if you think (1) you had half the ground let alone half the Kippax, and (2) i don't ever recall a rope being used (more like a big fence to keep you lot at the Kippax / Platt Lane open corner). But yes it used to kick off all over the Kippax as Reds did get tickets for the Kippx.

How about 'Who's up Mary Brown' for your list.

the game with the rope was the night game think around 73 finished 0-0 and yes there was a rope and we had half the ground that night,mad night,

game got held up.

been in the city side a few times standing in the open corner with hundreds of other reds,always fun at main rd.

[Bredbury Blue]

Nev,

Sorry took me a while to check this out and get back to you.

Sorry mate but your recollection that back in the 60's and 70's, in the Kippax, when we played ManU, (a) your lot got half the Kippax and ( the two sets of fans separated by a Rope, is only half right - (a) is wrong, ( is correct. Read on.

I put to a Man City website and here’s the responses.

Reply 1:

From: CH [mailto:comstad AT ntlworld.com]

Subject: Rags and Kippax

(a) half the Kippax - never. It was generally the section nearest to the Platt Lane - probably 25%.

( rope - definitely with a few police only. It was scrapping all night, charge and counter charge and huge surges. Unbelievable when you think of the segregation arrangements now.

They had a lot in the Kippax for almost the last game of the season in a crowd of only 43,000 in`71 (I think) when we lost 3-4. You could pay on the gate if I recall. Again a night of fighting all over the Kippax when na,na, na,na,na,na,na,na,na CITY rang out...

Reply 2:

From: John Nisbet [mailto:nisbet1957 AT btinternet.com]

Subject: Derby Matches

Hi

I have memories of Derby Matches going back to 1969.

United were never allocated half of the Kippax in fact, apart from when the Kippax was segregated at the Platt Lane end by iron railings in the eighties, no-one was ever allocated any of the Kippax. Come on for Gods sake, the Kippax held 30,000 people at it pinnacle, who on earth is going to bring 15,000 and get them into the Kippax without segregation???

The nearest I ever saw to anyone having half was when Birmingham were promoted in 1973 and played at Maine Road first game of the season. About 3-4000 of them (It seemed like more with the noise they made) came round the back of the Kippax just before the gates opened at 1 o'clock, (They opened early in them days, and the whole lot of them got in and there was one almighty battle.) There were too many of them to shift or chase out so the police surrounded them and they stayed there until full time at which point, they were escorted unsuccessfully to the centre of Manchester where all along Lloyd Street, there were unconscious bodies all over the place from what had obviously gone before. I even saw one City fan pull a gun out that day (I'm not joking). I'll never forget it. I even remember that he was one of the characters around at that time and he came from Bolton. Nutter !! I remember asking him is it real and he said yes, as he loaded it with bullets. Thankfully, he never fired it but it put the wind up me, I can tell you. I was about 16 at the time.

United fans used to get tickets and infiltrate the Kippax and there were battles galore. In 1973, that sounds like the year that we beat them 4-0 in the league, in fact, I've just looked it up on Man City Stats and it was actually 3-0 with Colin Bell getting 2 and an own goal.

Yep, battles galore inside and out, and all the way back to town but half the Kippax, never.

Hope that answers your question.

John Nisbet

Reply 3:

From: Jon Fielding [mailto:jon.fielding AT tumbleweed.com]

Subject: DERBY MEMORIES

Hi Peter – I remember derbies in the late 70s where united had about ¼ of the Kippax at the Platt Lane end. There wasn’t much segregation because I have vivid memories of sitting in the Main Stand and watching blue surges into red and vice versa. I think there was more robust segregation at the top of the Kippax (iron gate), but towards the bottom there wasn’t much. All away fans had that end of the Kippax in those days

rgds,

Jon

[nev]

thanks for that bred blue.

i see a blue remembers the rope and the game the guy said 3-0 was the year before i was at that one also,game was 0-0 game on a wednesday and my recollection was that we had half kippax that night as i was next to the rope and was close to the half way line.

anyway bred blue congratulations on city getting to the youth cup final,city are on the right track like united have always done build from the youth they are the backbone of the club.

did you no citys training ground is just around the corner from uniteds at carrington.

pity about west ham.lol.

goog luck tonight do us a favour and beat chelsea,we might win the league,lol.

[lampard10]

goog luck tonight do us a favour and beat chelsea,we might win the league,lol.

[nev]

goog luck tonight do us a favour and beat chelsea,we might win the league,lol.

hook line and sinker thought that might get lamps attention.

not over yet lamps chelsea are starting to get scared i can sense it,loose tonight and we win 2 games in hand be 6 points behind and still have to play you.well i can dream cant i.

[lampard10]

goog luck tonight do us a favour and beat chelsea,we might win the league,lol.

hook line and sinker thought that might get lamps attention.

not over yet lamps chelsea are starting to get scared i can sense it,loose tonight and we win 2 games in hand be 6 points behind and still have to play you.well i can dream cant i.

At the moment you have one game in hand over us................................I count that game in hand as Chelsea at 'The Bridge'.......not immposible, but I think the deck is firmly stacked our way. Best of British anyway.

[gisjames]

Lamps, is the game on TV in thailand tonight? I notice ESPN and Star have chosen sunderland blackburn and villa vs Fulham

Any ideas?

[lampard10]

Lamps, is the game on TV in thailand tonight? I notice ESPN and Star have chosen sunderland blackburn and villa vs Fulham

Any ideas?

It will probably be on the other sports channel.the one that shows chelsea TV. There is nearly always a third match on there and hardly ever advertised.

[Bredbury Blue]

Nev,

If you turn up at the Bridge with your boots you might just get a game for City tonight - desperate times!

Expect a very defensive backs to the walls game - we are virtually forwardless!

[nev]

yes bred blue noticed you are a bit light on !

good luck anyway the red half of manchester will be cheering you on

lamps yes it is not imposible and chelsea have not been great lately.

stranger things have happened in football before.

[redrus]

*post deleted, I've seen the bleedin score. (I've been in the sun too long.)

redrus

Edited March 27, 2006 by redrus

[jjp]

Decline

Leagues top scorers and playin the most attractive football at the mo

Get a decent midfielder and we will be sorted

Roll on next season

[nev]

Decline

Leagues top scorers and playin the most attractive football at the mo

Get a decent midfielder and we will be sorted

Roll on next season

bttt

[nev]

just found this link to a artical about chelski already planning there parade route for the premiership or double wins if they do!

now how arrogant is that they havnt won nowt yet and man utd the form team in the premiership since december sneaking up on them,would love to see egg on there bloody faces.lol also one intresting paragraph says the manchester united resurgence !!!!!!!

link www.mirror.uk/sport/football/

look for artical double parade planned already.

[nev]

well lead down to 7 points and we still have to go to the bridge,get a fealing not alls harmonious in the chelsea camp.

[lampard10]

well lead down to 7 points and we still have to go to the bridge,get a fealing not alls harmonious in the chelsea camp.

Don't worry .......it'll all change when we get rid of Robben, Drogbha,Crespo, Del Horno, Essien ...................................and bring in Rooney, Van Nistleroy, Saha, Ronaldho & Giggs

[nev]

well lead down to 7 points and we still have to go to the bridge,get a fealing not alls harmonious in the chelsea camp.

Don't worry .......it'll all change when we get rid of Robben, Drogbha,Crespo, Del Horno, Essien ...................................and bring in Rooney, Van Nistleroy, Saha, Ronaldho & Giggs

[jjp]

Oh Lamps,

Were goin get ya, Were goin get ya

Ambushed at the final hurdle

WELL STRANGER THINGS HAVE HAPPENED!

[lampard10]

Oh Lamps,

Were goin get ya, Were goin get ya

Ambushed at the final hurdle

WELL STRANGER THINGS HAVE HAPPENED!

Well it did to United.

[redrus]

Oh I'm glad to see this thread alive and kicin again.....!

Anyone seen Bredbury(United in Decline)Blue....

redrus

[jjp]

Oh I'm glad to see this thread alive and kicin again.....!

Anyone seen Bredbury(United in Decline)Blue....

redrus

Last i heard he was seen running down Sukhumvit with his mate

Bertie Magoo the bitter blue

[jjp]

See Bredblue not all city fans are bitter

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/columnists/sto...1746825,00.html

[nev]

maybe it is because united dicked city reserves 6-0 and secretly he hopes we pip chelski at the post as most of england seem to want us to do it too,,,lol

[lampard10]

pip chelski at the post as most of england seem to want us to do it too,,,lol

The World I think.

[Bredbury Blue]

Oh I'm glad to see this thread alive and kicin again.....!

Anyone seen Bredbury(United in Decline)Blue....

redrus

Been watching but as the thread had developed in to my dad's bigger than your dad with your chelsea mate, i had nothing to add.

[Bredbury Blue]

See Bredblue not all city fans are bitter

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/columnists/sto...1746825,00.html

I used to rate Simon Hatt...the writer of that article until i read that tosh. Personally i reckon he had nothing to write about before deadline so he had to make it attention catching.

I hope chelsea win it, they've been far and away the best team this season.

[Bredbury Blue]

maybe it is because united dicked city reserves 6-0 and secretly he hopes we pip chelski at the post as most of england seem to want us to do it too,,,lol

Yes you did tonk us. 3 goals in the first 20 minutes. Not taking anything away from you ofcourse, but as we can't even field a full strength first eleven right now our reserves had a strong resemblance to our Youth team. The result maybe not that strange then.

And no, i and most of england does not want to see ManU do it...you're the most hated team in the world remember!

[Rj 81]

you're the most hated team in the world remember!

Only bitter blues hate united, the rest don't hate but envy

[nev]

you're the most hated team in the world remember!

Only bitter blues hate united, the rest don't hate but envy

too true mate.

bred blue we are not even the most hated team in manchester,lol.

[lampard10]

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bred blue we are not even the most hated team in manchester,lol.

I didn't think anyone from Manchester supported United