Bagwan Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 A recent World Health Organisation (WHO) report has pegged the number of female prostitutes in the country at 2 lakh. can someone enlighten me? how much is 2 lakh.? thaisabai I was wondering the same - but chickened out about asking in case it was obvious and I was being ignorant or stupid in enquiring when everyone else knew what it means !!!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakh It's so easy to look up things using Google. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it became popular with the less well informed. Maybe not stupid but definitely not proactive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digibum Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Sex tourism --are you joking, you know how much a bonk is these days. Things have got out of hand and now its 3000 at least. A lady drink is an arm and a leg which is close on to 150baht for some red water. Short time rooms are going bust too. I can barely afford a motorbike,--certainly not both like we did in the good ole days for ha loi. I remember when 2000 a day did all three bike, bird, booze,bed. Yes, good point. The cost of social and adult entertainments in Thailand is no longer the bargain it used to be. As a matter of fact prices can now be equalled to those of the United States, Europe and Australia or even more in some places. The problem is that these industries have become greedy, very few good deals to be had and many Western tourists are now seeking their holidaying pleasures elsewhere. We are now talking about a social night out costing in the region of thousands rather than hundreds. Wine, women and song can prove to be the most expensive commodity in Thailand. I believe they killed the golden goose long ago. hehehe funny man I have a Thai friend now working in Zurich, it cost her 1 million baht for visa, plane ticket and other incidentals they charge 4,000baht for 15 min. and 10,000baht for 30 min. she works about 4 hours 6 days a week has Sunday off. Escort services in the US typically cost 200 to 400 dollars for 1 hour. At these rates it does appear Thailand is still a bargain At a semi upscale bar here in the states you will pay in the neghibor hood of 10 dollars for a mixed drink with no option to chat to woman unless one decides she can lower herself to do so. Well, I guess if all you care about are prostitutes you've found the bargain of a lifetime, eh? LOL In Amsterdam going rate for a shag is 50 EUR. That's about 2,100 baht. Pretty much the going rate for anything you're going to pull out of a beer bar or club in Thailand. And before anybody tells us how they only pay 200 baht or some nonsense, we're talking what your standard, straight off the plane, newbie would pay. There are a few other European cities with similar pricing so 50 EUR + 700 EUR flight or 50 EUR + 100 EUR flight? Europe is cheaper. US? I could find $1,000 a night escorts too. You can get laid for less than $200 - $400. You can get an old rub and tug at your local massage place for well under $100. But what I think the person you were responding to was talking about is the cost of living/visiting. Go into a farang restaurant and appetizers usually run about 150 - 200 baht. That's on par with US and Europe. The cost of imported beer is about the same as US or Europe. You can't compare the cost of some dive bar on Soi 22 with the cost of a drink at some upscale bar in the US. If you want to make the upscale to upscale comparison compare 200 baht a bottle of beer at Long Table. And the problem with that is that the cost of doing business is a fraction of the cost of doing business in the US or Europe. An upscale bar in the US is paying premium rent for the space, a minimum wage of $8 - $10 per hour, has to actually meet safety and health codes, etc. So if they're charging $6 or $7 a bottle of beer you can sort of see where the money is going. In Thailand you pay about 1/2 of the rent, the staff costs per day what the US club pays per hour, and nobody cares about meeting safety or health codes. Yet, they're still charging $6 or $7 for a beer. So yes, when you really do the comparisons of what the costs are in the US or Europe to Thailand . . . unless you're living out in the jungle or staying on Khao San Road the gap in the cost of living is narrowing every year. Throw in USD, GBP, and EUR weakness against the THB and for a lot of people it would be cheaper to holiday elsewhere. And as far as bang for the buck, Cambodia and Vietnam look a lot more attractive than Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millwall_fan Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Actually I regularly travel from China to Bangkok. All the flights are fully booked, and not by western sexpats Some people really need to realize times are changing Not necessarily for the better though. The 15% Chinese-Thai minority already own, run and vitually enslave the 85% ethnic Thai majority. A large influx of Chinese tourists - some maybe staying on like some of us have done, will make the ruling elite cream themselves. If the 85% majority were educated, they would be deeply worried about such a development. Also. Who says the Chinese don't want to get their leg over? How does and Eastern sexpat, differ form a Western one? It'll take about 50 years for the Hollywood scriptwriters to get the message. The Thais can say anything they like. You can't change such an ingrained international image overnight. Oscar Wilde wrote some great books and plays, but what do you think he is MOST remembered for? His epigrams in The Picture of Dorian Gray ? his assertion that "A man can be happy with any woman, as long as he does not love her". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Does this mean Thailand will also end the two prices scam at many family type events. Many places Farangs pay one price and a Thai pays a lower price. Thats great for their family image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digibum Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 A recent World Health Organisation (WHO) report has pegged the number of female prostitutes in the country at 2 lakh. can someone enlighten me? how much is 2 lakh.? thaisabai I was wondering the same - but chickened out about asking in case it was obvious and I was being ignorant or stupid in enquiring when everyone else knew what it means !!!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakh It's so easy to look up things using Google. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it became popular with the less well informed. Maybe not stupid but definitely not proactive. It's also very easy to read the rest of the thread and see that 30 other people have already answered the question. Google = Good Google + Common Sense = Better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lounger Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 A recent World Health Organisation (WHO) report has pegged the number of female prostitutes in the country at 2 lakh. can someone enlighten me? how much is 2 lakh.? thaisabai I think its a misquote. They mean the number of girls is pegged, te lak. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 If I had a Chinese friend who told me all the girls in Pattaya were really ugly... Many Thai guys would tell you the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 It'll take about 50 years for the Hollywood scriptwriters to get the message. The Thais can say anything they like. You can't change such an ingrained international image overnight. Oscar Wilde wrote some great books and plays, but what do you think he is MOST remembered for? His epigrams in The Picture of Dorian Gray? his assertion that "A man can be happy with any woman, as long as he does not love her". I guess it depends on who you ask. Mind you that quote is really remarkable for a man of his inclination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 It'll take about 50 years for the Hollywood scriptwriters to get the message. The Thais can say anything they like. You can't change such an ingrained international image overnight. Oscar Wilde wrote some great books and plays, but what do you think he is MOST remembered for? His epigrams in The Picture of Dorian Gray ? Not exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 His epigrams in The Picture of Dorian Gray ? Not exactly. I forgot the smiley, sorry. mind you we progressed a bit already his assertion that "A man can be happy with any woman, as long as he does not love her". I guess it depends on who you ask. Mind you that quote is really remarkable for a man of his inclination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 It'll take about 50 years for the Hollywood scriptwriters to get the message. The Thais can say anything they like. You can't change such an ingrained international image overnight. Oscar Wilde wrote some great books and plays, but what do you think he is MOST remembered for? His epigrams in The Picture of Dorian Gray ? Not exactly. For having sexual relations with another man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdw Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Does this mean Thailand will also end the two prices scam at many family type events. Many places Farangs pay one price and a Thai pays a lower price. Thats great for their family image. That's what kept me from doing touristy things & spending most of my money in bars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer5050 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 As long as Millions of dollors are coming into Thailand from the flang honeys each month, Nothing is going to change as much as we would like to seethe Sex trade gone of slow down, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 The government doesn't want the sex trade gone. They want the international image of the world's knocking shop gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 The government doesn't want the sex trade gone. They want the international image of the world's knocking shop gone. Actually it's "just" a Thai diplomat which doesn't make it Thai government policy. Still this diplomat talks about 'change perception', rather than just plain and simple change. Reminds me of "don't ask, don't tell' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chua Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) Family oriented.... hmmm, apparently they must mean that more straight male prostitutes will be available so both dad and mom can have a good time while lady boys watch the kids. Edited August 20, 2011 by Chua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnski12 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) A recent World Health Organisation (WHO) report has pegged the number of female prostitutes in the country at 2 lakh. can someone enlighten me? how much is 2 lakh.? thaisabai 2 lakh = 2 x 100,000 = 200,000. Lakh (100,000) is an Indian Word, probably derived from Pali. I think there are probably more than 200,000 hookers in all of Thailand. They may refer to full time vs. part time prostitution. Edited August 20, 2011 by cdnski12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOZMO Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Well, i've been here since 1970, VIETNAM, and i don't expect any changes!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brd Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Here is a free tip for Thailand. In Las Vegas , Nevada, the city " leaders" decided they did not want the reputation for the city to be sin and gambling. They then tried to redo all publicity to push for family tourism. Revenues fell WAY off, they came to their senses, and the new promotion became" what goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas". Thailand can certainly do whatever it wants, but if it kills off the sex trade just be sure to have regular jobs for all the girls from Issan...... This kind of government social engineering is made all the more funny by the fact that 80 to 90 percent of the sex trade is for the benefit of and used by Thai men. But I suppose that segment will not be going away. On a side note, if they really do want family tourism, the government is going to have to do something about the endless scams. Those do not go well with families. Kids watching their dad get beaten up by jet ski thugs could have a detrimental effect on future families visiting...... Riekel You are so right mainly Thai Men are the users and the foreigners are Isaan Ladies angels in comparaison...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Almost everyone I talk to in Dallas doesn't know Thailand from Taiwan and therefore have no idea of Thailand's reputation. For a Thai govt. representative to bring up the subject of needing to change the perception of Thailand will make some curious as to why it needs changing. Sometimes a can of worms is best left unopened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmgthailand Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I've heard Bangkok called Disneyland for adults... and the rides are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 All joking aside, I was told something this morning that really pee'd me off. A girl from our village who regularly visited our shop with her friends has just been packed off to Pattaya while her ' responsible ' parents lounge around at home jobless drinking 40 degrees Thai whisky and gambling away what baht they have. What's wrong with that did I hear someone say ? Well, she's JUST had her fourteenth birthday -- that's what's wrong. As long as people like this send a schoolgirl to ' work ' in Pattaya, how will Thailand shed it's seedy image ? The Thai's have been sending there 8-18 year old's to the city for as long as I can remember back to 1968. Not saying it's right, just saying it will never change here or in any other country with poor economic conditions for the majority of it's population. It's not good to try and judge another Countries culture and mores when there are so many things you think you know, but really, you can never understand unless your in their shoes. We are just visitors here. What appears to is happening at their homes with there families, probably isn't. Sometimes you have to do what's wrong to get good. Nothing gives us the right to judge them, unless you've lived a perfect life, which few people are able to in these times. You may be right with regard to the practical side of what is taking place in the Thai home. However, for the most part the Thai government (society) has recognized that this type of thing is not good for the society and has worked to stop such child abuse and child prostitution by passing laws against such things. Such actions by the parents is no more than selling their daughter into sexual slavery for economic benefit. Such behavior by the parents is seen by most societies (including Thailand) as abhorant. Most would view what was described in the post as a dysfunctional family of which there are many in Thailand. Might be better that the parents work rather than spend what money they have on booze and gambling and sending their daughter off to "work". You are correct in that economic necessity is a factor here. It does not mean we cannot pass judgement on the "culture or mores" of these people. By your agrument because it is because of economic need it has worked its way into the culture and therefore part of something we don't understand because it is NOT our culture. By that reckoning why not sell children for servants or slaves when it "becomes" part of economic necessity and the culture? You are unfortunately correct when you state that it is not "right" but that it won't change. I dare state that it is my hope that someday Thailand will reach a level where parents no longer need to force, sell, or encourage there sons and daughters to go off and "work" in Pattaya and other places. Hopefully one day the prostituion business will be serviced 100% by those who choose to do so not by those force into it. I do make a distinction here of the willing and the unwilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfm Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Non-news. Thailand is already a destination for everybody. It all depends on who you are, where you go and what you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Guess they're retooling the last promotion, "Come for the Temples, Stay for the Sex" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze01 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Just for information, there are maybe 7 or 8 flights a day from Hong Kong to Bangkok, mostly all fully booked What?? with, dirty old men no doubt craving sex with Thai bar girls!!! You ve obviously never been on these planes. Mostly groups of young people going to enjoy inflatable boats and shopping I tell you, times they are a changin Yeah, western punters are being replaced with Indian and Arabic punters. same same, but different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellred Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Pattaya is the place that has given Thailand the bad reputation as the sex capital of the world. Why don't they start by bulldozing and cleaning that place up. Start arresting and charging the bargirls working in prostitution and thier clients send out a very clear and positive message to the sex tourists that this illegal act will no longer be tolerated. The sex tourists will stop comming after they starting spending time in the BKK Hilton. (Prostitution is after all illegal) Are you crazy? They need to ramp up with more bars if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele404 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 makes sense..... all the sex tourism made the families Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacificperson Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Actually I regularly travel from China to Bangkok. All the flights are fully booked, and not by western sexpats Some people really need to realize times are changing Chinese sexpats? Japanese sexpats? Mongolian sexpats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phayao Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 A recent World Health Organisation (WHO) report has pegged the number of female prostitutes in the country at 2 lakh. can someone enlighten me? how much is 2 lakh.? thaisabai Could "lakh" be "lasses also known as hookers"? But, only 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 :cheesy: :cheesy: When are they going to tell the Thais about this so called idea? Bet the police won't be happy about loosing their income, or maybe they will take a stake in public pools, madam Tussaud etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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