Stricter Requirements For Tourist Visa Applicants

[rgs2001uk]

unlawfully because the rules are unfair.

Its easier for a thai to stay in the UK once married than vice versa.

Law in thailand? lol

There are many Brits here should be thankful Thailand hasnt (as yet) introduced similair requirements to those Thais in the UK have to go through to earn the right to stay.

Wait for the outcry when you have to rock up at your local immigration office and undergo the living in Thailand test, to be completed in Thai.

[Awohalitsiktoli]

These new rules do not affect any genuine tourists, who stay on average less than a week and certainly less than the 30 days most get visa-free.

It affects those who are unlawfully pretending to be tourists.

If no change to the rules actually took place, the rule change does not affect "genuine tourists" (by the way, an arbitrary concept that is not universally accepted). I think there was a change. Therefore, tourists are impacted. It is not so much this change that is the problem; rather, it is the numerous changes that have taken place over the past ten years (cumulative effect). All pretend to be either an attempt to address "security" or those wicked money-spending "perpetual tourists" who are not "genuine tourists." The concept of genuine tourist is something that is causing problems. It is only a "tag." Personally, who cares how long they stay as long as they spend money? If Thailand wants to address this non-problem, it can do so by creating a new visa category. They need to drop idiotic concepts that are getting them into trouble and costing them money like "unlawfully pretending to be tourists" and " perpetual tourists" and try a new approach that involves creativity. I could fix the non-problem for them in five minutes

[Richard4849]

It affects those who are unlawfully pretending to be tourists.

won't argue that point; but there are plenty of under 50s here, not married and with solid incomes from overseas, certainly higher income than that of many an older person relying totally on eg his UK pension - other than ED there is only the tourist visa option.

Some under 50s are on superannuation/retirement incomes eg did their time in military service, yet again, not eligible for other than tv till reaching 50+.

I have a Thai friend, 35, with passive income from investments in Thailand of about 10,000 dollars a month. He'd like to spend a year in England as a tourist, maybe two three or four years. He hasno interest in getting a job, learning the language, or marrying a local. He just wants to, you know, hang out. Mostly with other Thais at Thai restaurants and bars aimed at Thais.

Where is his visa? Fair? Or unfair?

[JimGant]

All pretend to be either an attempt to address "security" or those wicked money-spending "perpetual tourists" who are not "genuine tourists."

Just a new attempt, probably related to the new administration, to reduce the amount of farang keynoke roaming the streets.

Hard to say if concentrating on the "perpetual tourists" will do the trick. Won't bother me if some of these scary characters are made to disappear, however.

[david555]

It affects those who are unlawfully pretending to be tourists.

won't argue that point; but there are plenty of under 50s here, not married and with solid incomes from overseas, certainly higher income than that of many an older person relying totally on eg his UK pension - other than ED there is only the tourist visa option.

Some under 50s are on superannuation/retirement incomes eg did their time in military service, yet again, not eligible for other than tv till reaching 50+.

I have a Thai friend, 35, with passive income from investments in Thailand of about 10,000 dollars a month. He'd like to spend a year in England as a tourist, maybe two three or four years. He hasno interest in getting a job, learning the language, or marrying a local. He just wants to, you know, hang out. Mostly with other Thais at Thai restaurants and bars aimed at Thais.

Where is his visa? Fair? Or unfair?

with that amount income by month he should not have a problem to find a guarantor i think

[Richard4849]

All pretend to be either an attempt to address "security" or those wicked money-spending "perpetual tourists" who are not "genuine tourists."

Just a new attempt, probably related to the new administration, to reduce the amount of farang keynoke roaming the streets.

Hard to say if concentrating on the "perpetual tourists" will do the trick. Won't bother me if some of these scary characters are made to disappear, however.

Don't forget about the upstanding gentlemen from West Africa and the sub-continent who are also doing the Phnom Penh tango. Oh, and those nice Filipino gambling-scam gentlemen...

[bkkjai]

It affects those who are unlawfully pretending to be tourists.

won't argue that point; but there are plenty of under 50s here, not married and with solid incomes from overseas, certainly higher income than that of many an older person relying totally on eg his UK pension - other than ED there is only the tourist visa option.

Some under 50s are on superannuation/retirement incomes eg did their time in military service, yet again, not eligible for other than tv till reaching 50+.

That's me, sold a business in the UK and a house years ago and have had plenty of money to live on ever since. But it's 4 years before I reach 50 so I'm not eligible for any of the visas they offer and have no interest in studying Thai as I already speak it fluently so don't want the ED visa either Yet I bring in about 125,000 baht a month into Thailand, more than double what your average 'teacher' makes (many of whom I've met, and who can barely afford a lifestyle I would never put up with but, hey, they're 'legal' LOL), and the Thai government is still making it impossible for me to stay here.

I've met numerous farangs living here on tourist visas who do the same. In fact, I would say the stereotypical 'loser' so many of you whitter on about is actually less of a factor in Thailand than those foreigners like me who are staying here on tourist visas with substantial amounts of money.,

But, as Thailand hasn't yet figured out, we can go anywhere we don't have to stay here on tourist visas. If they don't want our money countries like Malaysia, Hong Kong, Singapore and just about all of Europe will allow us to be indefinite tourists there with little hassle to us.

I've just booked a flight today out of Thailand to Hong Kong leaving at the beginning of October and plan on staying there for 3 months. I lived there for a year a few years ago, so Hong Kong is almost as much 'home' to me as Thailand was. Then will probably move on to Malaysia for around six months before going back to Italy, where I own an apartment, for a few months after that. Like I said, I don't lose here. Thailand does. As my money goes with me

For most people though, they're so desperate to stay in Thailand they'll do anything including jumping through all the hoops the Thai government keeps shoving up. I don't have to, I have hundreds of other options, and there are many more like me.

[Richard4849]

It affects those who are unlawfully pretending to be tourists.

won't argue that point; but there are plenty of under 50s here, not married and with solid incomes from overseas, certainly higher income than that of many an older person relying totally on eg his UK pension - other than ED there is only the tourist visa option.

Some under 50s are on superannuation/retirement incomes eg did their time in military service, yet again, not eligible for other than tv till reaching 50+.

That's me, sold a business in the UK and a house years ago and have had plenty of money to live on ever since. But it's 4 years before I reach 50 so I'm not eligible for any of the visas they offer and have no interest in studying Thai as I already speak it fluently so don't want the ED visa either Yet I bring in about 125,000 baht a month into Thailand, more than double what your average 'teacher' makes (many of whom I've met, and who can barely afford a lifestyle I would never put up with but, hey, they're 'legal' LOL), and the Thai government is still making it impossible for me to stay here.

I've met numerous farangs living here on tourist visas who do the same. In fact, I would say the stereotypical 'loser' so many of you whitter on about is actually less of a factor in Thailand than those foreigners like me who are staying here on tourist visas with substantial amounts of money.,

But, as Thailand hasn't yet figured out, we can go anywhere we don't have to stay here on tourist visas. If they don't want our money countries like Malaysia, Hong Kong, Singapore and just about all of Europe will allow us to be indefinite tourists there with little hassle to us.

I've just booked a flight today out of Thailand to Hong Kong leaving at the beginning of October and plan on staying there for 3 months. I lived there for a year a few years ago, so Hong Kong is almost as much 'home' to me as Thailand was. Then will probably move on to Malaysia for around six months before going back to Italy, where I own an apartment, for a few months after that. Like I said, I don't lose here. Thailand does. As my money goes with me

For most people though, they're so desperate to stay in Thailand they'll do anything including jumping through all the hoops the Thai government keeps shoving up. I don't have to, I have hundreds of other options, and there are many more like me.

Would your country have a visa for a Thai in the same situation as you?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

All pretend to be either an attempt to address "security" or those wicked money-spending "perpetual tourists" who are not "genuine tourists."

Just a new attempt, probably related to the new administration, to reduce the amount of farang keynoke roaming the streets.

Hard to say if concentrating on the "perpetual tourists" will do the trick. Won't bother me if some of these scary characters are made to disappear, however.

Might be wrong about this, Jim, but I don't think so...

In all likelihood, a lot of the truly disreputable individuals currently staying here on tourist visas, if those disappear or become much harder to get, will probably find another disreputable means of staying here...

It's probably the ordinary, getting-by folks who'll end up getting put out... because while they may be bending the intended purpose of tourist visas... they're not likely going to turn to really criminal or seriously illegal things...

And frankly, if the government would get serious about requiring language schools and others who want to hire farang teachers about also requiring them to obtain work permits for that purpose, a lot of the perceived problem would likely be resolved.

[bkkjai]

It affects those who are unlawfully pretending to be tourists.

won't argue that point; but there are plenty of under 50s here, not married and with solid incomes from overseas, certainly higher income than that of many an older person relying totally on eg his UK pension - other than ED there is only the tourist visa option.

Some under 50s are on superannuation/retirement incomes eg did their time in military service, yet again, not eligible for other than tv till reaching 50+.

I have a Thai friend, 35, with passive income from investments in Thailand of about 10,000 dollars a month. He'd like to spend a year in England as a tourist, maybe two three or four years. He hasno interest in getting a job, learning the language, or marrying a local. He just wants to, you know, hang out. Mostly with other Thais at Thai restaurants and bars aimed at Thais.

Where is his visa? Fair? Or unfair?

He could easily get a visa for the UK. Just needs a guarantor. So no, nothing like Thailand. He could also easily get a visa for the US for at least a six month stay on a 10 year visa. I have several Thai friends who have them and they come and go to the US staying up to six months, or longer, at a time. As long as they were able to show proof of income at the US Embassy (and as these guys are loaded, they had no problem doing), the US gave them 10 year visas.

Thailand would do well to do the same for those of us with money.

What cracks me up about all this though is all the high and mighty ones on forums like Thaivisa going on about getting rid of the 'riff raff' who live here on tourist visas. But, most of you make less than 50,000 a month, which is a mere pittance to those of us who have money, yet you look down on people who want to live here as tourists with more money than you guys will ever see in the rest of your working life. And, while you're lording it above those of us who will just move on elsewhere, the Thais are still looking down on you and constantly changing the rules so your stability is slowly eroded away. Bloody hilarious if you ask me.

[bkkjai]

It affects those who are unlawfully pretending to be tourists.

won't argue that point; but there are plenty of under 50s here, not married and with solid incomes from overseas, certainly higher income than that of many an older person relying totally on eg his UK pension - other than ED there is only the tourist visa option.

Some under 50s are on superannuation/retirement incomes eg did their time in military service, yet again, not eligible for other than tv till reaching 50+.

That's me, sold a business in the UK and a house years ago and have had plenty of money to live on ever since. But it's 4 years before I reach 50 so I'm not eligible for any of the visas they offer and have no interest in studying Thai as I already speak it fluently so don't want the ED visa either Yet I bring in about 125,000 baht a month into Thailand, more than double what your average 'teacher' makes (many of whom I've met, and who can barely afford a lifestyle I would never put up with but, hey, they're 'legal' LOL), and the Thai government is still making it impossible for me to stay here.

I've met numerous farangs living here on tourist visas who do the same. In fact, I would say the stereotypical 'loser' so many of you whitter on about is actually less of a factor in Thailand than those foreigners like me who are staying here on tourist visas with substantial amounts of money.,

But, as Thailand hasn't yet figured out, we can go anywhere we don't have to stay here on tourist visas. If they don't want our money countries like Malaysia, Hong Kong, Singapore and just about all of Europe will allow us to be indefinite tourists there with little hassle to us.

I've just booked a flight today out of Thailand to Hong Kong leaving at the beginning of October and plan on staying there for 3 months. I lived there for a year a few years ago, so Hong Kong is almost as much 'home' to me as Thailand was. Then will probably move on to Malaysia for around six months before going back to Italy, where I own an apartment, for a few months after that. Like I said, I don't lose here. Thailand does. As my money goes with me

For most people though, they're so desperate to stay in Thailand they'll do anything including jumping through all the hoops the Thai government keeps shoving up. I don't have to, I have hundreds of other options, and there are many more like me.

Would your country have a visa for a Thai in the same situation as you?

Yes. Like I said. In the UK a Thai could easily get a visa if he had a guarantor - tens of thousands of wealthy foreigners live there for years at a time already like that.

But, in Thailand, I could get a hundred guarantors (I know at least that many people with a lot more money than me) but the Thai government still won't allow it.

[Richard4849]

It affects those who are unlawfully pretending to be tourists.

won't argue that point; but there are plenty of under 50s here, not married and with solid incomes from overseas, certainly higher income than that of many an older person relying totally on eg his UK pension - other than ED there is only the tourist visa option.

Some under 50s are on superannuation/retirement incomes eg did their time in military service, yet again, not eligible for other than tv till reaching 50+.

I have a Thai friend, 35, with passive income from investments in Thailand of about 10,000 dollars a month. He'd like to spend a year in England as a tourist, maybe two three or four years. He hasno interest in getting a job, learning the language, or marrying a local. He just wants to, you know, hang out. Mostly with other Thais at Thai restaurants and bars aimed at Thais.

Where is his visa? Fair? Or unfair?

He could easily get a visa for the UK. Just needs a guarantor. So no, nothing like Thailand. He could also easily get a visa for the US for at least a six month stay on a 10 year visa. I have several Thai friends who have them and they come and go to the US staying up to six months, or longer, at a time. As long as they were able to show proof of income at the US Embassy (and as these guys are loaded, they had no problem doing), the US gave them 10 year visas.

Thailand would do well to do the same for those of us with money.

What cracks me up about all this though is all the high and mighty ones on forums like Thaivisa going on about getting rid of the 'riff raff' who live here on tourist visas. But, most of you make less than 50,000 a month, which is a mere pittance to those of us who have money, yet you look down on people who want to live here as tourists with more money than you guys will ever see in the rest of your working life. And, while you're lording it above those of us who will just move on elsewhere, the Thais are still looking down on you and constantly changing the rules so your stability is slowly eroded away. Bloody hilarious if you ask me.

Agree...he could get a TOURIST VISA for either the US or UK to stay for a few months. Just like anyone can do with Thailand, as well.

But what about after that? How is going to stay there for a year, two, three, or indefinitely?

[bkkjai]

All pretend to be either an attempt to address "security" or those wicked money-spending "perpetual tourists" who are not "genuine tourists."

Just a new attempt, probably related to the new administration, to reduce the amount of farang keynoke roaming the streets.

Hard to say if concentrating on the "perpetual tourists" will do the trick. Won't bother me if some of these scary characters are made to disappear, however.

Might be wrong about this, Jim, but I don't think so...

In all likelihood, a lot of the truly disreputable individuals currently staying here on tourist visas, if those disappear or become much harder to get, will probably find another disreputable means of staying here...

It's probably the ordinary, getting-by folks who'll end up getting put out... because while they may be bending the intended purpose of tourist visas... they're not likely going to turn to really criminal or seriously illegal things...

And frankly, if the government would get serious about requiring language schools and others who want to hire farang teachers about also requiring them to obtain work permits for that purpose, a lot of the perceived problem would likely be resolved.

You're absolutely correct. Those people like me, who have always done everything the legal way, the way the government mandates it, (I've never even had a one day overstay) will be the ones to leave. WITH our money.

The disreputable ones will just stay here illegally and never leave, and then pay there 20,000 baht fine at the airport when they do. I've met three people who've done that in the past year and not one was denied entry back into Thailand.

[Richard4849]

Bkkjai...what do they call that unlimited stay UK visa for rich people? I will inquire at the embassy for my friend tomorrow. And what level of passive income is required, and how is it proven?

[Richard4849]

All pretend to be either an attempt to address "security" or those wicked money-spending "perpetual tourists" who are not "genuine tourists."

Just a new attempt, probably related to the new administration, to reduce the amount of farang keynoke roaming the streets.

Hard to say if concentrating on the "perpetual tourists" will do the trick. Won't bother me if some of these scary characters are made to disappear, however.

Might be wrong about this, Jim, but I don't think so...

In all likelihood, a lot of the truly disreputable individuals currently staying here on tourist visas, if those disappear or become much harder to get, will probably find another disreputable means of staying here...

It's probably the ordinary, getting-by folks who'll end up getting put out... because while they may be bending the intended purpose of tourist visas... they're not likely going to turn to really criminal or seriously illegal things...

And frankly, if the government would get serious about requiring language schools and others who want to hire farang teachers about also requiring them to obtain work permits for that purpose, a lot of the perceived problem would likely be resolved.

You're absolutely correct. Those people like me, who have always done everything the legal way, the way the government mandates it, (I've never even had a one day overstay) will be the ones to leave. WITH our money.

The disreputable ones will just stay here illegally and never leave, and then pay there 20,000 baht fine at the airport when they do. I've met three people who've done that in the past year and not one was denied entry back into Thailand.

I think they are still selling Thailand Elite cards. Would that not solve the problems of you and your young, independently wealthy, idle friends?

[maiphedmaiaroi]

Rules are unfair? Um, how? Because you can't do as you please? "Lol".

Stupid reply

Yes some rules are very unfair.

This stupid rule will make me have to leave my kids which isnt going to be nice and return to my home country at a considerable cost to get a visa just to come back.

Its very unfair that i cant get the visa from here. You see!

Rules arent always fair.

Think before you say stupid things in future. doh

Edited September 17, 2011 by maiphedmaiaroi

[Richard4849]

Stupid? How? If your country accepted Thai perpetual tourists like you want Thailand to -- I might use the word unfair. But they don't. Where is the unfairness?

[bkkjai]

Agree...he could get a TOURIST VISA for either the US or UK to stay for a few months. Just like anyone can do with Thailand, as well.

But what about after that? How is going to stay there for a year, two, three, or indefinitely?

Tens of thousands of foreigners, if not hundreds of thousands, do this in the UK and elsewhere in Europe, all above board and legal. I don't think those of you without money realize how easy it is, if you can show proof of income in most European countries. It's just as easy in Europe as it used to be in Thailand, but then again Europeans have always known allowing people with money, who aren't doing anything illegal, to stay there is beneficial for everyone. I'm also British, so for me to stay just about anywhere in Europe for as long as I want, without even having to do visa runs, is as simple as getting registered once I get there and making a quick trip to the local police station.

The Thai government however is too stupid to understand the benefits of this, so will never end up with foreigners like me who have money and are willing to stay here and spend it. I mean, look how far the Thai government got with that in the past - instituting that ridiculous 'visa' a few years ago for people who had money. It was an expensive scam, even for the wealthy, and with few benefits. No wonder those who did pay into it got scammed when the scheme collapsed from lack of interest.

Unlike Europe, Thailand is the one that treats people with money,like me, like criminals, even though most of us are doing everything legally - applying for visas, paying for visas, doing visa runs on time and without overstays, spending lots of money while we're here etc. and we still get treated like we're criminals, while the truly dodgy ones are allowed to stay because some of them are 'teachers'.

I was lucky that I started the right business, worked hard at it, and when I sold it and my house had enough money to set me up well to well past retirement age and beyond. I worked hard for 20 years so I could retire early and reap the benefits, so now I have no interest in getting another job or, god forbid, a 'teaching job' just so I can stay in Thailand. Too many other countries to live in where i'm treated with respect and not like a criminal trying to game the system.

Anyway, got to go. Off to dinner with friends. Looks like my next fortnight will be pretty much every night of that - saying goodbye to friends and packing everything up so I can get off to Hong Kong on time. Bye bye Thailand. I'm sure Hong Kong will be happy to have me, LOL.

[bkkjai]

[quote name='Richard4849' timestamp='1316259337' post='4704001

I think they are still selling Thailand Elite cards. Would that not solve the problems of you and your young, independently wealthy, idle friends?

Wow, you don't keep up on the news do you. The Thailand Elite cards were stopped about two years ago. Incredibly expensive and nobody wanted them. The ones who did pay into the system lost tens of thousands of pounds. The smart ones like me avoided that scheme like the plague.

Anyway, dinner awaits. It's Mezzaluna tonight. One of my favorite places in Bangkok.

Have fun being 'legal' on your 50,000 baht salary. LOL.

[JimGant]

In all likelihood, a lot of the truly disreputable individuals currently staying here on tourist visas, if those disappear or become much harder to get, will probably find another disreputable means of staying here...

Maybe. But it does seem to be getting harder and harder to beat the system. No more "visiting friends" as rationale from some of the honorary consulates, nor "owning a condo or house." (Well, Portland still lists "proof of condo or home ownership" as rationale for a Non Imm O visa.)

But, as Bkkjai points out, some folks, who may look keynoke, but otherwise have sufficient means, might get tossed too. (Or, did I miss his point...? )

[Richard4849]

Rules are unfair? Um, how? Because you can't do as you please? "Lol".

Stupid reply

Yes some rules are very unfair.

This stupid rule will make me have to leave my kids which isnt going to be nice and return to my home country at a considerable cost to get a visa just to come back.

Its very unfair that i cant get the visa from here. You see!

Rules arent always fair.

Think before you say stupid things in future. doh

Fair would be total reciprocity on visa rules between nations.

Inconvenient, not happy-making? Maybe. But unfair? No.

Thai kids? So you're married? Great! There's an "O" visa waiting for you.

[Richard4849]

Tens of thousands of foreigners, if not hundreds of thousands, do this in the UK and elsewhere in Europe, all above board and legal. I don't think those of you without money realize how easy it is, if you can show proof of income in most European countries. It's just as easy in Europe as it used to be in Thailand, but then again Europeans have always known allowing people with money, who aren't doing anything illegal, to stay there is beneficial for everyone. I'm also British, so for me to stay just about anywhere in Europe for as long as I want, without even having to do visa runs, is as simple as getting registered once I get there and making a quick trip to the local police station.

The Thai government however is too stupid to understand the benefits of this, so will never end up with foreigners like me who have money and are willing to stay here and spend it. I mean, look how far the Thai government got with that in the past - instituting that ridiculous 'visa' a few years ago for people who had money. It was an expensive scam, even for the wealthy, and with few benefits. No wonder those who did pay into it got scammed when the scheme collapsed from lack of interest.

Unlike Europe, Thailand is the one that treats people with money,like me, like criminals, even though most of us are doing everything legally - applying for visas, paying for visas, doing visa runs on time and without overstays, spending lots of money while we're here etc. and we still get treated like we're criminals, while the truly dodgy ones are allowed to stay because some of them are 'teachers'.

I was lucky that I started the right business, worked hard at it, and when I sold it and my house had enough money to set me up well to well past retirement age and beyond. I worked hard for 20 years so I could retire early and reap the benefits, so now I have no interest in getting another job or, god forbid, a 'teaching job' just so I can stay in Thailand. Too many other countries to live in where i'm treated with respect and not like a criminal trying to game the system.

Anyway, got to go. Off to dinner with friends. Looks like my next fortnight will be pretty much every night of that - saying goodbye to friends and packing everything up so I can get off to Hong Kong on time. Bye bye Thailand. I'm sure Hong Kong will be happy to have me, LOL.

Again, what is this unlimited stay rich person visa called? I would like to look it up, please.

[baboon]

Would not a paltry 10 million Baht for an investment visa be of assistance?

If that is too cheap an option, how about contacting Government officials, explaining the error of their ways and obtaining citizenship from these ingrates for a small consideration?

Should be no problem for the rich.

[beechguy]

Rules are unfair? Um, how? Because you can't do as you please? "Lol".

Stupid reply

Yes some rules are very unfair.

This stupid rule will make me have to leave my kids which isnt going to be nice and return to my home country at a considerable cost to get a visa just to come back.

Its very unfair that i cant get the visa from here. You see!

Rules arent always fair.

Think before you say stupid things in future. doh

Why not apply for an "Extension of Stay" based on being a parent? Why not apply for a Non-immigrant "O" Visa at a neighboring country?

Anyway, "stupid" is people visitng or moving to a country without considering the immigration laws.

Edited September 17, 2011 by beechguy

[swisstouristpattaya]

I was thinking to buy a condo but view the situation better to keep your money in switzerland or else and spend minimum time in thailand.

i think thailand is too proud of themselves and even if you have 1 millions euro to give them they will refuse it and they would prefer to hassle you with visa runs and other things just to show you who is the boss.

it' s all they got left, and we can not do anything because it' s their country. if you don't like it, leave it.

I think the 50 years retirement visa will be canceled one day, they may push to 60 or even 65 years old for a visa.But I bet today they are already talking about other visa how to make thailand harder of access.If you think you are Ok with your visa, maybe next year they will kick some of you over the border...

the reason is a few very rich thai people want thai to remain poor so they can rule and some believe by changing rules it would be only better.

many Thai didn't understand that we are in a worldwide crisis, and this crisis was not only the fault of the ex Abisit government.

I give 3 years to this country before another civil fight like in BKK happen again.

The only visa they can not really refuse you, due to money, or whatever else, is when you have thai relatives, married, thai kids,...

Edited September 17, 2011 by swisstouristpattaya

[maiphedmaiaroi]

Rules are unfair? Um, how? Because you can't do as you please? "Lol".

Stupid reply

Yes some rules are very unfair.

This stupid rule will make me have to leave my kids which isnt going to be nice and return to my home country at a considerable cost to get a visa just to come back.

Its very unfair that i cant get the visa from here. You see!

Rules arent always fair.

Think before you say stupid things in future. doh

Why not apply for an "Extension of Stay" based on being a parent? Why not apply for a Non-immigrant "O" Visa at a neighboring country?

Anyway, "stupid" is people visitng or moving to a country without considering the immigration laws.

because i am now on a tourist visa. I only planned to stay here for 6 months and i had a imm o but my wife is busy in the uk and wants the father of her kids to take care of then whilst she is away. stupid lol

[beechguy]

Rules are unfair? Um, how? Because you can't do as you please? "Lol".

Stupid reply

Yes some rules are very unfair.

This stupid rule will make me have to leave my kids which isnt going to be nice and return to my home country at a considerable cost to get a visa just to come back.

Its very unfair that i cant get the visa from here. You see!

Rules arent always fair.

Think before you say stupid things in future. doh

Why not apply for an "Extension of Stay" based on being a parent? Why not apply for a Non-immigrant "O" Visa at a neighboring country?

Anyway, "stupid" is people visitng or moving to a country without considering the immigration laws.

because i am now on a tourist visa. I only planned to stay here for 6 months and i had a imm o but my wife is busy in the uk and wants the father of her kids to take care of then whilst she is away. stupid lol

And, why don't you apply for an "Extension of Stay" based on taking care of your children? Why don't you apply for another "O" Visa in Laos or another neighboring country based on having a Thai spouse or children?http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/doc/temporarystay/policy777-2551_en.pdf

Here is one example, 2.18 in this link. http://www.immigrati...777-2551_en.pdf

Perhaps this is another possibility if the extension won't work, http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/473258-loas-1-year-visa/page__p__4473330#entry4473330

But, perhaps you are more interested in whining and bitching instead learning about your options.

Agreed, stupid lol.

Edited September 17, 2011 by beechguy

[Awohalitsiktoli]

Rules are unfair? Um, how? Because you can't do as you please? "Lol".

Stupid reply

Yes some rules are very unfair.

This stupid rule will make me have to leave my kids which isnt going to be nice and return to my home country at a considerable cost to get a visa just to come back.

Its very unfair that i cant get the visa from here. You see!

Rules arent always fair.

Think before you say stupid things in future. doh

Why not apply for an "Extension of Stay" based on being a parent? Why not apply for a Non-immigrant "O" Visa at a neighboring country?

Anyway, "stupid" is people visitng or moving to a country without considering the immigration laws.

Smart people understand the rules are constantly changing, so there is no security here. That fact should be taken into consideration along with existing rules. I know people who could have purchased property here but did not because of the rule changes (no security, why spend money here?). I know people who have moved their businesses abroad because of the constant rule changes. If you are not at retirement age, you have few visa options. This is a major problem. Not all of these people are poor criminals just waiting to cause havoc. There is a very easy solution to the non-problem they have created. If this is about "security" and "income," simply construct a new visa category based security and income. Call it a "long-stay/pre-retirement visa" or something like that. It could be issued for three months, six months, nine months or twelve months (renewable until age 50 at which point the person must shift to a new visa category, such as retirement). To get it, you have to pass a security background check (security issue taken care of) and pay the fee (money issue taken care of) based on desired length of stay. This is very simple and would all but eliminate the "perpetual tourist" non-problem.

[baboon]

I bet they would make life intolerable for the likes of Donald Trump.....

[aristo]

duhh! honestly saying i have read the all replies in this topic, so i have came up with the decision of getting a multiple TR here in my country before i go back to thai....i was thinking of coming first on VOA then after that leaving the country to get TR in one of the land neighboored cities. but according to the informations here,, this seems to be not a good idea anymore...i been reading all over the internet about visa runs, this trips are meant to be a real hassle. as i planing to stay not more than 6 months. good deal if i get double TR here!...

so my opinions are about news docs which must be shown, a real pain in the tummy,, not good for thus who keeps doing the visa runs to stay more in a long term within the country. good luck for everyone!... keep safe