Red-Shirt MP Jatuporn Claims Attempt To Overthrow Thai Govt

[Misterwhisper]

In my personal opinion, frogface has been long overdue for frequent power sessions with a good shrink.

[backtonormal]

Again? Will this be like all those other times that he predicted it?

The only ones that could be above the law, and not be the monarchy, would be the army.

Wrong there is one position between the monarchy and the army which is neither. Who do the elites go to when they dont like what a gov is doing. They dont go straight to the C in C, they go to the man in the middle and he calls the C in C to get the army out. Please dont be naieve (mispelt?) Only the in the full course of time will we really know how much power and influence this person asserted over Thai history

Oh ... I thought when he said "it had nothing to do with the monarchy" that he meant people directly connected too.

Jatuporn has tasted the porridge he is very careful with his words. Plus he is only saying things in public he is instructed to. pre-empting a coup has got be a good tactic. Even if there is no coup imminent, hes taking the limelight away from somebody. Personally I think its a tactic because its now to late for the coup. The Americans warned Thailand about downgrading relations if the outcome of a fair election was tampered with plus now the majority of Thais dont want the Dems or the army near power. Any attempt to relive the glorious feudal past will be met with extreme force against the perpetrators

[colinscarr]

Whipping up false rumours is of course a venerable TRT/PTP trick.

Remember the THAI B737 at Don Muang that Thaksin was due to fly on that caught fire in March 2001 - luckily before the passengers had boarded? Thaksin declared it was an attempt to assassinate him.

In fact, when the accident investigators had done their work, they found the real cause of the fire was a spark from a faulty pump in the centre fuel tank. But by then all the sheeple had accepted the lie that it was an assassination attempt.

[lungmi]

We had already comparisons with the SA (brown shirts) in the forum. History never repeats itself but there are some paralelisms.to give some idea what could be happen

in the underground.

http://en.wikipedia....he_Long_Knives.

Thailand has no SS, the watermelon branch of K.T. is not strong enough.

But moderate PTP MPs and the new (and old rich) faction no more needs Jatuporn. This is the reason why he postulate the realisation of the economic promises, even knowing that it is impossible. But he has the "legitimation" to fight back. It's a hidden threat for the actual gouvernment.

My point of view. Discussion open.

Edited September 1, 2011 by lungmi

[slapout]

It would appear the PR groups paid for by big brother are still doing their thing, the subject matter and the mouth pieces may be somewhat different but the gist of the messages and the hoped for outcome has not changed one bit.

[jayboy]

One of the few institutions that can be relied upon for the most part is the judiciary in Thailand

I think this is right but possibly not quite in the way you are suggesting

[Moruya]

I had hoped that motor mouth would have been redundant now that red democracy is in place.

I thought that.one of the highpoints of the new government would be the red shirt cretins tending their buffalos in the sun.

He speaks as if he is not part of the government strangely enough. Has anyone told him?

[OzMick]

There is no need to overthrow this ship of fools, it will capsize on its own. Too many over-weighted Shinawatras and red shirts moving to the top while the ballast, the national Treasury, is depleted on unsustainable populist policies. Like the good ship Wasa, on the first sign of troubled waters, this lot will go to the bottom.

Best we can hope for is not be sucked down in the turbulence when it happens

[givenall]

Nothing works better that scare tactic on naive people. “SKYis Falling give me what I want”

[Foggy Bottom]

1st September - autumn is well and truly underway now we've heard the first "coupkoo" of the season.

[siampolee]

The poor fellow is not well at all you know.it's the rainy season and the floods bring out all the nasty viruses and germs.

Poor old Jatuporn has just got a touch of " verbal diarrhea. Good dose of salts and he'll be okay "

[h90]

"Jatuporn claimed that the group consists of politicians and those who have power above the law."

"The red-shirt MP said, however, that the movement has no links to the Monarchy and there will be more clarity about this effort in December."

Who is above the law?

It can't be Prem, because he has links to the Monarchy.

It can't be Sondhi, because he lost many cases in court so not above the law.

it can't be Sonti, because he is a coalition partner.

Is it Thaksin??? No links to the Monarchy and above the law?

No, he's talking about the Democrats. Things would be a lot easier with no opposition party don't you know.

yes but they didn't brought down the other government, nor are they above the law.

[RickBradford]

1st September - autumn is well and truly underway now we've heard the first "coupkoo" of the season.

Very droll.

If Jatuporn, Jakrapop Penkair and Arisman were simultaneously to die in a freak yachting accident, you can't help thinking that Thailand might just be a better place.

Well, accidents do happen.......

[Ricardo]

Jatuporn says there's an attempt to overthrow the government, well yes of course, but how come it took him 16 months to realise what we all knew last year ?

[ginjag]

There is no need to overthrow this ship of fools, it will capsize on its own. Too many over-weighted Shinawatras and red shirts moving to the top while the ballast, the national Treasury, is depleted on unsustainable populist policies. Like the good ship Wasa, on the first sign of troubled waters, this lot will go to the bottom.

Best we can hope for is not be sucked down in the turbulence when it happens

I've got it--I've got it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, TITANIC Thailand

[scorecard]

Again? Will this be like all those other times that he predicted it?

The only ones that could be above the law, and not be the monarchy, would be the army.

Wrong there is one position between the monarchy and the army which is neither. Who do the elites go to when they dont like what a gov is doing. They dont go straight to the C in C, they go to the man in the middle and he calls the C in C to get the army out. Please dont be naieve (mispelt?) Only the in the full course of time will we really know how much power and influence this person asserted over Thai history

Oh ... I thought when he said "it had nothing to do with the monarchy" that he meant people directly connected too.

Jatuporn has tasted the porridge he is very careful with his words. Plus he is only saying things in public he is instructed to. pre-empting a coup has got be a good tactic. Even if there is no coup imminent, hes taking the limelight away from somebody. Personally I think its a tactic because its now to late for the coup. The Americans warned Thailand about downgrading relations if the outcome of a fair election was tampered with plus now the majority of Thais dont want the Dems or the army near power. Any attempt to relive the glorious feudal past will be met with extreme force against the perpetrators

A little over the top.

[Buchholz]

He doesn't need facts he just knows he needs innuendo that keeps his assault thugs on point. Accusation to increase distrust and keep the fervor of us against them up and at fever pitch.

If there was such a fill tilt conspiracy he'd be one of the first targets hands down. He also makes implied accusations that contradict themselves.

Yes Animatic, an idiotic buffoon likes of Jutaporn does not warrant a reply... he has an IQ of about 10..... but his mother loves him..

because he treats her so well....

http://www.thailandoutlook.tv/toc/ViewData.aspx?DataID=1013675

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2009/10/23/politics/Jatuporn-stirs-anger-in-house-over-motion-30115070.html

http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=254905170037

http://www.google.co.th/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBS_enTH316TH316&q=jatuporn+mother&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

[scorecard]

He doesn't need facts he just knows he needs innuendo that keeps his assault thugs on point. Accusation to increase distrust and keep the fervor of 'us against them' up and at fever pitch.

If there was such a fill tilt conspiracy he'd be one of the first targets, hands down. He also makes implied accusations that contradict themselves.

Maybe he feels that he's been sidelined, forgotten, so he goes back to his old tactics of lies etc., to get some attention.

Wonder if yingluck will be brave enough / strong enough to reign him in?

[PoorSucker]

I just wonder when Dr T will bring in the loose canon.

Even Dr T must know that he's a liability.

Or he just don't care about his little sister.

[wordchild]

There is no need to overthrow this ship of fools, it will capsize on its own. Too many over-weighted Shinawatras and red shirts moving to the top while the ballast, the national Treasury, is depleted on unsustainable populist policies. Like the good ship Wasa, on the first sign of troubled waters, this lot will go to the bottom.

Best we can hope for is not be sucked down in the turbulence when it happens

sadly they have found a vast source of ballast. The Bank of Thailand reserves. Sovereign Wealth Fund anyone? Investment outside Thailand in the hands of a real pro! remember man city?

Now that really will give the Shinawatras something to play with. watch this one run as it will be their big play this time! there could be billions and billions of baht in this one, you may even see him back off trying to get his other restitution fines back once he is sure he can milk this particular cow! its so large, he may even cut in a few other high profile, outside/above the law types!

Edited September 1, 2011 by wordchild

[Tawai]

He alleged the movement is led by the same group which brought down the Thaksin Shinawatra, Samak Sundaravej and Somchai Wongsawat administrations

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The group that brought down Thaksin was the Supreme Court. The group that brought down Samak and Somchai was the Constitution Court.

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these "groups" are a thread to "democracy" red shirt style

[metisdead]

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[Skywalker69]

"Jatuporn claimed that the group consists of politicians and those who have power above the law."

"The red-shirt MP said, however, that the movement has no links to the Monarchy and there will be more clarity about this effort in December."

Who is above the law?

It can't be Prem, because he has links to the Monarchy.

It can't be Sondhi, because he lost many cases in court so not above the law.

it can't be Sonti, because he is a coalition partner.

Is it Thaksin??? No links to the Monarchy and above the law?

It must be the Red Shirts then, they behave as they are above the law...

[moe666]

Who cares what this nut cases says. Even the usual red supporters here have been silent.

[hgma]

Dear Thaivisa members

This sort of rhetoric is a direct result of the schizophrenia jutaporn and co.

far more its a reflection of a lot of Thai citizens......the "third movement" blame and shame.

Its like believing in ghosts and then blame all the bad fortune on the ghost.

in a minute he sees the neighboring countries "take over"

Its the rhetoric what makes me reconsider my families position in this country.

according to me the red -shirts movement is a clan and trough political recognition they try to establish a

outright dangerous environment to any NON-Thai resident and NON-red thinking fellow Thai citizen.

[Siam Simon]

This berk might well turn out to be right on this issue, notwithstanding all his usual inflammatory rantings. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day .

[mca]

This berk might well turn out to be right on this issue, notwithstanding all his usual inflammatory rantings. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day .

Yeah he ought to be selective in his ranting and raving. A valid point might get lost in all the diatribe. Unfortunately he seems a member of the " Throw enough shit and see what sticks" school of thought.

[yoshiwara]

The group Jatuporn is referring to is the army. Thaksin always has the army in his sights. It is the army leadership which he is fixated on. What Jatuporn is alluding to re the 'overthrow of the government' is their continued blockage for a swift and easy return of Thaksin to Thailand to re-assume his looting and payoff of loyal retainers. While sister PM is playing nice, jatuporn does the continued destabilisation thing trying to force the army backwards.

[GeorgeO]

If Jatuporn's claim was true and he had an insider giving information why blow the whistle now it would be more credible if he kept his mouth shut and gather solid evedince.

Like when, after it happens?

Well no, according to him he has so much evidence available that he's going to release it very soon ..... in December...!!!

[Siam Simon]

The group Jatuporn is referring to is the army. Thaksin always has the army in his sights. It is the army leadership which he is fixated on. What Jatuporn is alluding to re the 'overthrow of the government' is their continued blockage for a swift and easy return of Thaksin to Thailand to re-assume his looting and payoff of loyal retainers. While sister PM is playing nice, jatuporn does the continued destabilisation thing trying to force the army backwards.

Not a hundred miles off the mark Yoshi: The Army (and others) concern was that Thaksin was blocking off their own looting and payoff of loyal retainers in favour of his own anointed acolytes, rather than theirs.