Cheapest Double Cab - Double Airback Pickup / Suv

[sabanook]

We are looking for a new car for two adults and two small children. Because we stay in a small village in Issan having bad roads we tend to buy a new double cab pickup where we can have two child seats.

Two air-backs is a must.

After days of investigation and reading of this forum I guess the best/cheapest solution would be a

Hilux Vigo 4x2 2.5G for 757,000 THB or

Hilux Vigo 4x2 3.0G for 832,000 for the automatic transmission.

Toyotas biggest competitor in pickups, Nissan offers two air-backs only in the D-MAX Hi-Lander Cab4 for 892,000 THB

Mazda BT-50 doesn't offer SRS at all.

Ford Ranger Double-Cab Hi-rider 2.5 XLT at 740,000 THB is competitive, but should we buy a Ford when Toyota costs almost the same ?

Do we miss some alternatives or are there maybe some SUVs available for a lower price then 760,000 THB?

All suggestions are welcome.

(sorry for my English - it is not my native language)

[wandrinstar]

TATA. No Question the best value for money.. !!.

[transam]

TATA. No Question the best value for money.. !!.

Yuk.

[wandrinstar]

I Know, I know, but we got a Wholesale Market by our Yard and its slowly filling with owner drivers dumping Rangers at an alarming rate. These Guys are Hardened Truckies, not Ferangs under the thumb. .Also i note Nissan are replaceing tin can Toyos for hard use , thats just what i see,no skin of my dick...

[MoonRiverOasis]

Many models are being discontinued soon, and the new models coming promise to have more standard safety features - so if that's your primary concern your best bet would be to wait...

The new Ford Ranger (T6) and new Mazda BT-50 are the ones most likely to come with higher spec safety features in lower-grade models, and it's already confirmed that the Ranger will be the first Thai pickup with the full compliment of airbags (front, curtain and thorax) - though that will obviously only be in the higher grades.

However, a few corrections are needed:

The current BT-50 does in fact dual have airbags available in the 4-door - both the "hi-racer" and the "r" grades have this - starting price is 713K. The all-new model BT-50 releases in November.

If you want to compare apples with apples, you have to put the Ranger XLT up against the Vigo 3.0G which makes the Ford 90K cheaper. The all-new model Ranger releases in the next few weeks.

Also, the D-Max is an Isuzu, not a Nissan And speaking of Nissan, the Calibre LE models have dual airbags, prices start at 762K.

And to finish off the list, the Chev Colorado comes with dual aribags from 780K, but it's also due for replacement with an all-new model in Nov/Dec.

[wandrinstar]

Do all these Trucks run on All Fuels like the Tata, they all like the Gas and multi fuel on Tata,plus the dont care about Gizmoes, ive just 2 Mins ago sat in new one, its rather basic.

[skybluestu]

Many models are being discontinued soon, and the new models coming promise to have more standard safety features - so if that's your primary concern your best bet would be to wait...

The new Ford Ranger (T6) and new Mazda BT-50 are the ones most likely to come with higher spec safety features in lower-grade models, and it's already confirmed that the Ranger will be the first Thai pickup with the full compliment of airbags (front, curtain and thorax) - though that will obviously only be in the higher grades.

However, a few corrections are needed:

The current BT-50 does in fact dual have airbags available in the 4-door - both the "hi-racer" and the "r" grades have this - starting price is 713K. The all-new model BT-50 releases in November.

If you want to compare apples with apples, you have to put the Ranger XLT up against the Vigo 3.0G which makes the Ford 90K cheaper. The all-new model Ranger releases in the next few weeks.

Also, the D-Max is an Isuzu, not a Nissan And speaking of Nissan, the Calibre LE models have dual airbags, prices start at 762K.

And to finish off the list, the Chev Colorado comes with dual aribags from 780K, but it's also due for replacement with an all-new model in Nov/Dec.

And if the OP's main concern really is dual airbags then he could get a good deal on the soon-to-be discontinued models, especially the Ranger or BT-50.

[Bkkorupcountry]

Personally, if I have young ones sitting in the back in properly secured baby/child car seats, I wouldn't want any airbags.

[sabanook]

Personally, if I have young ones sitting in the back in properly secured baby/child car seats, I wouldn't want any airbags.

That's why we looking for a double-cab, but the air-backs are dedicated for the parents ;-)

The current BT-50 does in fact dual have airbags available in the 4-door - both the "hi-racer" and the "r" grades have this - starting price is 713K. The all-new model BT-50 releases in November.

If you want to compare apples with apples, you have to put the Ranger XLT up against the Vigo 3.0G which makes the Ford 90K cheaper. The all-new model Ranger releases in the next few weeks.

Also, the D-Max is an Isuzu, not a Nissan And speaking of Nissan, the Calibre LE models have dual airbags, prices start at 762K.

And to finish off the list, the Chev Colorado comes with dual aribags from 780K, but it's also due for replacement with an all-new model in Nov/Dec.

thanks for the additional information - I have updated my list - so looks like I have a choice of

double-cab / 2 front air-backs

713,000 Mazda BT-50 2.5 Commonrail Hi-Racer+ ABS (sure 2 x SRS ? could not find any info)

740,000 Ford Ranger Double-Cab Hi-rider 2.5 XLT MT

757,000 Hilux Vigo 4x2 2.5G MT

762,000 Nissan Navara double cab CALIBRE MT

780,000 Ford Ranger Double-Cab Hi-rider 2.5 XLT AT

780,000 Chevrolet Colorado C-CAB (3.0 LT1? - current feature list does not match price list - not sure which model for 780,000 and 2xSRS?)

802,000 Nissan Navara double cab CALIBRE AT

832,000 Hilux Vigo 4x2 3.0G AT

892,000 Isuzu D-MAX Hi-Lander Cab AT

TATA Xenon 2.2L DOUBLE CAB DLS MT (could not find price list and don't it think contains air-backs, does it?)

Are you sure BT-50 Hi-Racer has 2 air-backs ? - I could find only a Thai brochure and the safety section contains ABS and EBD and cannot find SRS or Airback :-(

Have I still forgotten something ?

[sabanook]

some correction to Ford Ranger:

757,000 Hilux Vigo 4x2 2.5G MT

762,000 Nissan Navara double cab CALIBRE MT

780,000 Chevrolet Colorado C-CAB (3.0 LT1? - current feature list does not match price list - not sure which model for 780,000 and 2xSRS?)

802,000 Nissan Navara double cab CALIBRE AT

832,000 Hilux Vigo 4x2 3.0G AT

872,000 Ford Ranger Double Cab 4WD 3.0 XLT MT

892,000 Isuzu D-MAX Hi-Lander Cab AT

912,000 Ford Ranger Double Cab 4WD 3.0 XLT 5AT

not meeting my requirements:

713,000 Mazda BT-50 2.5 Commonrail Hi-Racer+ ABS (sure 2 x SRS ? could not find any info)

740,000 Ford Ranger Double-Cab Hi-rider 2.5 XLT MT (no Front passenger Airbag)

780,000 Ford Ranger Double-Cab Hi-rider 2.5 XLT AT (no Front passenger Airbag)

Have not expected this - Toyota seems to be the cheapest pickup having two front air-backs - any hints?

[phutoie2]

I would recommend you take MRO 's advice on this one, the Thai pickup truck scene will be changing quickly within the next few months with much improved models from the main manufacturers being available.

Be aware that the Toyota 3L Auto double cab 4 x 2 pickup is the smaller size pickup truck, it has road tyres and no raised suspension etc.

I bought one of the last ones before the Vigo champ came along.

It does have two airbags in the front.

I notice you have not considered the Mitsubishi Triton Plus?, that would be suitable for rural roads and its available with auto.

[wandrinstar]

Personally, if I have young ones sitting in the back in properly secured baby/child car seats, I wouldn't want any airbags.

That's why we looking for a double-cab, but the air-backs are dedicated for the parents ;-)

The current BT-50 does in fact dual have airbags available in the 4-door - both the "hi-racer" and the "r" grades have this - starting price is 713K. The all-new model BT-50 releases in November.

If you want to compare apples with apples, you have to put the Ranger XLT up against the Vigo 3.0G which makes the Ford 90K cheaper. The all-new model Ranger releases in the next few weeks.

Also, the D-Max is an Isuzu, not a Nissan And speaking of Nissan, the Calibre LE models have dual airbags, prices start at 762K.

And to finish off the list, the Chev Colorado comes with dual aribags from 780K, but it's also due for replacement with an all-new model in Nov/Dec.

thanks for the additional information - I have updated my list - so looks like I have a choice of

double-cab / 2 front air-backs

713,000 Mazda BT-50 2.5 Commonrail Hi-Racer+ ABS (sure 2 x SRS ? could not find any info)

740,000 Ford Ranger Double-Cab Hi-rider 2.5 XLT MT

757,000 Hilux Vigo 4x2 2.5G MT

762,000 Nissan Navara double cab CALIBRE MT

780,000 Ford Ranger Double-Cab Hi-rider 2.5 XLT AT

780,000 Chevrolet Colorado C-CAB (3.0 LT1? - current feature list does not match price list - not sure which model for 780,000 and 2xSRS?)

802,000 Nissan Navara double cab CALIBRE AT

832,000 Hilux Vigo 4x2 3.0G AT

892,000 Isuzu D-MAX Hi-Lander Cab AT

TATA Xenon 2.2L DOUBLE CAB DLS MT (could not find price list and don't it think contains air-backs, does it?)

Are you sure BT-50 Hi-Racer has 2 air-backs ? - I could find only a Thai brochure and the safety section contains ABS and EBD and cannot find SRS or Airback :-(

Have I still forgotten something ?

Tata has no Airbags. Cheap n Cheerfull. id go for the Triton personally.

[wandrinstar]

TATA. No Question the best value for money.. !!.

Yuk.

Dont you Yuk Me, you know i regard Trucks as just that, for hard work , and shifting things, nothing more.

[MoonRiverOasis]

not meeting my requirements:

713,000 Mazda BT-50 2.5 Commonrail Hi-Racer+ ABS (sure 2 x SRS ? could not find any info)

740,000 Ford Ranger Double-Cab Hi-rider 2.5 XLT MT (no Front passenger Airbag)

780,000 Ford Ranger Double-Cab Hi-rider 2.5 XLT AT (no Front passenger Airbag)

It's also worth noting the the current (old) model Ranger 4x4 3.0L AT XLT has side airbags as well as dual front..

I notice you have not considered the Mitsubishi Triton Plus?, that would be suitable for rural roads and its available with auto.

No current Triton models are avaiable with dual airbags. The next closest in the Mitsu range with dual airbags is the Pajero Sport GT.

But yes, if safety in a pickup trick is the OP's primary concern, he/she should absolutely wait for the next-gen Ranger/BT-50/Colorado/D-Max - which not only will offer more airbags, but also offer a whole host of electronic safety aids.

The new Ranger has already been delivered to many showrooms, and the new BT-50 has been seen on transporters heading for dealerships as well.

On a side note, I've had a good poke around the new BT-50 now, and I have to concede it actually looks a lot better in person than it does in the photos we've all seen..

[sabanook]

Be aware that the Toyota 3L Auto double cab 4 x 2 pickup is the smaller size pickup truck, it has road tyres and no raised suspension etc.

The Overall Length should be the same for all Hilux Vigos. I am aware that only the Prerunner and 4x4 models have a raised suspension but I think a "standard" suspension is still sufficient for our rural roads.

But yes, if safety in a pickup trick is the OP's primary concern, he/she should absolutely wait for the next-gen Ranger/BT-50/Colorado/D-Max - which not only will offer more airbags, but also offer a whole host of electronic safety aids.

The new Ranger has already been delivered to many showrooms, and the new BT-50 has been seen on transporters heading for dealerships as well.

It looks like a very good idea to wait for the new models...

We planned to buy a new car not later then by end of November. I am not aware about the delivery lead time for the new generation but 10 weeks lead time is maybe even to short for the current generation?

I have to start to talk to some dealers soon or have to postpone our procurement ;-)

Thanks for all the advice - I am much better informed about the current market situation regarding a double air-back car for 2 adults +2 children and bag traveling on rural roads in Issan.

[MoonRiverOasis]

I am aware that only the Prerunner and 4x4 models have a raised suspension but I think a "standard" suspension is still sufficient for our rural roads.

IMHO, the raised driving position in High Riding" pickups and SUV's it their single best safety feature in Thailand, AKA "The land of 10 million pickup trucks and one million u-turns"

[transam]

I am aware that only the Prerunner and 4x4 models have a raised suspension but I think a "standard" suspension is still sufficient for our rural roads.

IMHO, the raised driving position in High Riding" pickups and SUV's it their single best safety feature in Thailand, AKA "The land of 10 million pickup trucks and one million u-turns"

Agreed

[sabanook]

IMHO, the raised driving position in High Riding" pickups and SUV's it their single best safety feature in Thailand, AKA "The land of 10 million pickup trucks and one million u-turns"

I just noticed: prerunners suspension is 41mm higher, but the car at all is 125 mm higher then a 4x2 Hilux - I assume it also effects the driver's position... but I'am still thinking an air-back is more effective then a higher car ;-)

I assume people in US and Europe wouldn't buy a car without air-backs so I wonder they don't care about this in Thailand:-)

[MoonRiverOasis]

I assume people in US and Europe wouldn't buy a car without air-backs so I wonder they don't care about this in Thailand:-)

Airbags are mandatory in EU, crash safety has been promoted as a selling point for decades, and Euro NCAP ratings are widely published and promoted.

In Thailand, there is no leglislation that requires airbags, no national (or even regional) New Car Assessment Program, and there's the simple matter that safety costs more, and most buyers are already stretching themselves.

The upper middle class and hi-so do however do care about safety (and will pay for it), but they don't normally buy lower-end vehicles, like the pickups being discussed here.

Thank Buddha for the Ford/Mazda alliance upping the ante in the segment...

P.S. They're called "air bags" - i.e. bags full of air

[Bkkorupcountry]

Personally, if I have young ones sitting in the back in properly secured baby/child car seats, I wouldn't want any airbags.

That's why we looking for a double-cab, but the air-backs are dedicated for the parents ;-)

My apologies. You threw me off there when you mentioned two kids and two airbags one after the other

[phutoie2]

I am aware that only the Prerunner and 4x4 models have a raised suspension but I think a "standard" suspension is still sufficient for our rural roads.

IMHO, the raised driving position in High Riding" pickups and SUV's it their single best safety feature in Thailand, AKA "The land of 10 million pickup trucks and one million u-turns"

Agreed

Right - so the higher up you are sitting a truck equals more safety? interesting theory.

To the OP, I bought a Nissan Frontier (fairly high up!) and no airbags in those days so did the next best thing, bought two BUPA policies for me and the wife.

[wandrinstar]

A High Riders give you a Beautifull View of the Landscape , Flora and Forna before it dumps you into it.. Lower is Safer than Higher. The Higher the Truck, smaller the Brain of the Driver, same applies to big fancy wheels,complete prats generally.They need all the silly traction aids to give you back the stability of a basic truck.. .Oh im Wrong am i ?? Ive seen about 5 trucks upside down in central drain ditches from C.M. to Mango during the night, but thats coincidence isnt it that they are all just Vigoes and Clatter Maxes, not one correct ride highter upsidedown like a dead Cockroach. If you can defy gravity believe the Kids..These hi ride defenders remind me of my Sons <deleted> in trying justifying a Supercharger for Safety Reasons on his ride. Be Honest its the Looks nowt else.

[Spoonman]

A High Riders give you a Beautifull View of the Landscape , Flora and Forna before it dumps you into it.. Lower is Safer than Higher. The Higher the Truck, smaller the Brain of the Driver, same applies to big fancy wheels,complete prats generally.They need all the silly traction aids to give you back the stability of a basic truck.. .Oh im Wrong am i ?? Ive seen about 5 trucks upside down in central drain ditches from C.M. to Mango during the night, but thats coincidence isnt it that they are all just Vigoes and Clatter Maxes, not one correct ride highter upsidedown like a dead Cockroach. If you can defy gravity believe the Kids..These hi ride defenders

How do you know what there ride height was if they were upside down ?

[ignis]

some correction to Ford Ranger:

757,000 Hilux Vigo 4x2 2.5G MT

762,000 Nissan Navara double cab CALIBRE MT

780,000 Chevrolet Colorado C-CAB (3.0 LT1? - current feature list does not match price list - not sure which model for 780,000 and 2xSRS?)

802,000 Nissan Navara double cab CALIBRE AT

832,000 Hilux Vigo 4x2 3.0G AT

872,000 Ford Ranger Double Cab 4WD 3.0 XLT MT

892,000 Isuzu D-MAX Hi-Lander Cab AT

912,000 Ford Ranger Double Cab 4WD 3.0 XLT 5AT

not meeting my requirements:

713,000 Mazda BT-50 2.5 Commonrail Hi-Racer+ ABS (sure 2 x SRS ? could not find any info)

740,000 Ford Ranger Double-Cab Hi-rider 2.5 XLT MT (no Front passenger Airbag)

780,000 Ford Ranger Double-Cab Hi-rider 2.5 XLT AT (no Front passenger Airbag)

Have not expected this - Toyota seems to be the cheapest pickup having two front air-backs - any hints?

Missing ?

Mitsubishi Triton 4 door......... GLS and the PLUS 4 door have airbags, 748k and 752k

4x4 looks Chery Tiggo appears good 848k, well looks OK outside and nice inside, airbags, leather, climate control air con. there are a few around where I live out in the sticks.

Edit: forget to say the petrol Mitsubishi Triton, dealer near me would fit 2 LPG tanks under rear bed for 30k, would make cheap motoring....... The Petrol version 4 dr GLS Plus is 722k

Just a thought a friend bought a new Nissan Navara double cab CALIBRE AT, it is very nice, but fuel consumption very high just over 7km per 1 lt maybe worth a thought

[wandrinstar]

A High Riders give you a Beautifull View of the Landscape , Flora and Forna before it dumps you into it.. Lower is Safer than Higher. The Higher the Truck, smaller the Brain of the Driver, same applies to big fancy wheels,complete prats generally.They need all the silly traction aids to give you back the stability of a basic truck.. .Oh im Wrong am i ?? Ive seen about 5 trucks upside down in central drain ditches from C.M. to Mango during the night, but thats coincidence isnt it that they are all just Vigoes and Clatter Maxes, not one correct ride highter upsidedown like a dead Cockroach. If you can defy gravity believe the Kids..These hi ride defenders

How do you know what there ride height was if they were upside down ?

They have these things called STICKERS, im supprised a Boy Racer hasnt noticed them, If you read through the 20 or so you eventualy come to the name.

[Spoonman]

Interesting that a sticker dictates the ride height these days, sure beats the heck outta spending thousands on springs and shocks.

[wandrinstar]

Debateing with you Spooney is like talking to my Daughter. Totaly Impossible. Never Wrong. Gime a Lo Rider and a predictable break away anytime. Now thats Loads O Fun.

[ignis]

A High Riders give you a Beautifull View of the Landscape , Flora and Forna before it dumps you into it.. Lower is Safer than Higher. The Higher the Truck, smaller the Brain of the Driver, same applies to big fancy wheels,complete prats generally.They need all the silly traction aids to give you back the stability of a basic truck.. .Oh im Wrong am i ?? Ive seen about 5 trucks upside down in central drain ditches from C.M. to Mango during the night, but thats coincidence isnt it that they are all just Vigoes and Clatter Maxes, not one correct ride highter upsidedown like a dead Cockroach. If you can defy gravity believe the Kids..These hi ride defenders remind me of my Sons <deleted> in trying justifying a Supercharger for Safety Reasons on his ride. Be Honest its the Looks nowt else.

Sorry don't agree, well depends I expect on what truck make and model also...

Always had the D-Max, changed every 3 years, the last one the 'Gold Series' 2008 on delivery did not like it, many different things, this March went to all the dealers and test drove the pickups, both normal and the high one, to me the worst by far was the Vigo, big wobbly thing.... Ended up buying the Mazda BT50 Hi-Racer+, was the best by far also the best at high speed cornering, 6 months and 51,000 km later still feel the same way about the Mazda... also looks a lot nicer the the stranded BT50... note the Hi-Racer and the D-Max Hi-Lander both have wider tyres and bigger size wheels then the normal BT50 and D-Max.

[katabeachbum]

A High Riders give you a Beautifull View of the Landscape , Flora and Forna before it dumps you into it.. Lower is Safer than Higher. The Higher the Truck, smaller the Brain of the Driver, same applies to big fancy wheels,complete prats generally.They need all the silly traction aids to give you back the stability of a basic truck.. .Oh im Wrong am i ?? Ive seen about 5 trucks upside down in central drain ditches from C.M. to Mango during the night, but thats coincidence isnt it that they are all just Vigoes and Clatter Maxes, not one correct ride highter upsidedown like a dead Cockroach. If you can defy gravity believe the Kids..These hi ride defenders remind me of my Sons <deleted> in trying justifying a Supercharger for Safety Reasons on his ride. Be Honest its the Looks nowt else.

Sorry don't agree, well depends I expect on what truck make and model also...

Always had the D-Max, changed every 3 years, the last one the 'Gold Series' 2008 on delivery did not like it, many different things, this March went to all the dealers and test drove the pickups, both normal and the high one, to me the worst by far was the Vigo, big wobbly thing.... Ended up buying the Mazda BT50 Hi-Racer+, was the best by far also the best at high speed cornering, 6 months and 51,000 km later still feel the same way about the Mazda... also looks a lot nicer the the stranded BT50... note the Hi-Racer and the D-Max Hi-Lander both have wider tyres and bigger size wheels then the normal BT50 and D-Max.

you v gotta be kidding on the bt50/ranger

In 2007 I was driving a Vigo 4x4 auto 4 door most of the time in Phuket. On occasions I swapped with my friends bt50highrider. same micelin tyres, slightly wider on Vigo. same milage. the road from chalong to kata is plenty of curves and over a hill. the first curve can with ease be entered at 120kmh with vigo, but at 80kmh the bt50 already is drifting. more curves and the difference gets even larger

[wandrinstar]

A High Riders give you a Beautifull View of the Landscape , Flora and Forna before it dumps you into it.. Lower is Safer than Higher. The Higher the Truck, smaller the Brain of the Driver, same applies to big fancy wheels,complete prats generally.They need all the silly traction aids to give you back the stability of a basic truck.. .Oh im Wrong am i ?? Ive seen about 5 trucks upside down in central drain ditches from C.M. to Mango during the night, but thats coincidence isnt it that they are all just Vigoes and Clatter Maxes, not one correct ride highter upsidedown like a dead Cockroach. If you can defy gravity believe the Kids..These hi ride defenders remind me of my Sons <deleted> in trying justifying a Supercharger for Safety Reasons on his ride. Be Honest its the Looks nowt else.

Sorry don't agree, well depends I expect on what truck make and model also...

Always had the D-Max, changed every 3 years, the last one the 'Gold Series' 2008 on delivery did not like it, many different things, this March went to all the dealers and test drove the pickups, both normal and the high one, to me the worst by far was the Vigo, big wobbly thing.... Ended up buying the Mazda BT50 Hi-Racer+, was the best by far also the best at high speed cornering, 6 months and 51,000 km later still feel the same way about the Mazda... also looks a lot nicer the the stranded BT50... note the Hi-Racer and the D-Max Hi-Lander both have wider tyres and bigger size wheels then the normal BT50 and D-Max.

Wider Tyres help in the Dry only, i have no issue with trucks, i like a bit of fun, its just all this super handling <deleted> gets on my nerves

, you make sence about the Vigo, its true, but there are many in denial. Cant see why, they all have merits. I mean some here will split hairs over Jazz v Yarris, when to me they are super small whizzers. Jeez ive had a Spotive around for 9 Months and some say they handle well, they are Crap compared to a Vigo Top Truck. Just my opinion anyway. Like the Big Wobbly Thing discription, keep your head down,, The Kids from the Hi Chairs will hurl their Dummies.