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Preferably in the Chiang Mai area, but I'll be going back to Bangkok soon too.

I realise this is a very specific question, but I'll have a go anyway.

I can't believe a Firewire port is this hard to find. Most decently modern desktops are equipped with them back home, but even the modern looking cases in cafes here just seem to have USB.

At this stage, I'm considering stopping off in Ayuttha and walking down that section of road that has about 10 internet cafes next door to each other. When I went past there before half the patrons seemed to be playing Call of Duty in some of them, so I'm guessing they're higher specced than many others.

Not expecting much, but if anyone can help, I'd be really grateful.

Thanks.

Posted

What do you need to do with a FireWire port? Perhaps you can just walk into an iStudio (the main Apple reseller in thailand) shop, do your business, and move on... since most modern Apple products have FireWire 800

Posted

Or get a firewire to usb adapter...cheap.

These are fictional/scams/nonsense. USB and FireWire are totally different technologies, 'adaptors' will never work. Why they are even sold at all is mind-boggling, to be honest.

At least, they will certainly never work for what I need, which is transferring HDV video footage. FW or nothing.

I have enough blank tapes that I can just keep shooting until I go home, but that will probably be around March ish, so in and ideal world I'd like to be able to get some stuff before then.

Anyone know if the Cyberstar Internet Cafe in Chiang Mai still exists? Their website it still up, but I've gone past where the map says they are and I cannot find the place at all. And the website copyright line at the base says 2006-2010 - almost as though the site has not been updated since 2010.

But surely it wouldn't stil be being up and maintained if the company has gone out of business?

Posted

Hmmm...I use an adapter for a hard drive and for a cable I have for an older iPod. Works fine for me. I was just trying to help...

I think what the OP means to say is that when you use USB / FireWire adapters, there are often losses in bandwidth, depending on the "standard" of the cables / connectors in question (e.g. USB 2.0, FireWire 800). So, as the OP indicates that he is shooting HD video, having the maximum bandwidth possible available to transfer files, which is basically FireWire 800 right now, since USB 3.0 and Intel's Thunderbolt technology haven't really been adopted, is what he prefers.

Posted

Hmmm...I use an adapter for a hard drive and for a cable I have for an older iPod. Works fine for me. I was just trying to help...

I didn't mean to sound pissy, sorry.

Frankly, I'm amazed it works for you at all. Maybe simple data transfer can limp through. But for what I need it for, there is absolutely no way of adapting/converting.

In other news, I'm pretty sure I found the building of Cyberstar, totally shuttered and with no signs. Out of Business, I'm guessing.

Posted

Hmmm...I use an adapter for a hard drive and for a cable I have for an older iPod. Works fine for me. I was just trying to help...

I think what the OP means to say is that when you use USB / FireWire adapters, there are often losses in bandwidth, depending on the "standard" of the cables / connectors in question (e.g. USB 2.0, FireWire 800). So, as the OP indicates that he is shooting HD video, having the maximum bandwidth possible available to transfer files, which is basically FireWire 800 right now, since USB 3.0 and Intel's Thunderbolt technology haven't really been adopted, is what he prefers.

HDV is a fixed data rate of 25 MBit/Sec (or less). Bandwidth isn't the issue. It's not a preference thing either. It's just that FW and USB are simply different protocols. They communicate with devices differently, the controllers are different - the drivers for capturing software do not recognise a camera connection through USB, because it's the wrong type.

hv20.com/showthread.php?23914-Capture-footage-through-USB-2-4pin-Firewire

Posted (edited)

I shoot HD Video using a Canon HD(or HV - I forget) 30 - media is Mini Tapes.

I transfer to my Computer using USB 2 and various Video Editing Software programs.

Reading this Thread it would appear I am losing something in the transfer (picture definition - what?) by using USB and not Firewire.

Is this true - or am I mis-understanding something?

Patrick

Edited by p_brownstone
Posted

I shoot HD Video using a Canon HD(or HV - I forget) 30 - media is Mini Tapes.

I transfer to my Computer using USB 2 and various Video Editing Software programs.

Reading this Thread it would appear I am losing something in the transfer (picture definition - what?) by using USB and not Firewire.

Is this true - or am I mis-understanding something?

Patrick

Honestly, it should simply not be possible. Hard Drives can clearly be made to work, but I have never come across any way of doing it with HDV camcorders at all. It should simply not work.

Can you tell me EXACTLY how you do it? You go from the 4-pin FireWire port on the camera which looks like this:

http://www.vpi.us/vp...1394-4pf4pf.jpg

into what? A 6-pin FireWire port looks similar to USB, are you sure you are not confusing the two? 6-pin FireWire:

http://www.showmecab...-pin-female.jpg

What software do you use to capture with?

Posted

I shoot HD Video using a Canon HD(or HV - I forget) 30 - media is Mini Tapes.

I transfer to my Computer using USB 2 and various Video Editing Software programs.

Reading this Thread it would appear I am losing something in the transfer (picture definition - what?) by using USB and not Firewire.

Is this true - or am I mis-understanding something?

Patrick

Honestly, it should simply not be possible. Hard Drives can clearly be made to work, but I have never come across any way of doing it with HDV camcorders at all. It should simply not work.

Can you tell me EXACTLY how you do it? You go from the 4-pin FireWire port on the camera which looks like this:

http://www.vpi.us/vp...1394-4pf4pf.jpg

into what? A 6-pin FireWire port looks similar to USB, are you sure you are not confusing the two? 6-pin FireWire:

http://www.showmecab...-pin-female.jpg

What software do you use to capture with?

My apologies, you are of course completely correct. I just checked and find I use a 4 Pin to 6 Pin Firewire Connector to transfer the Data from the HD Video Camera to my Computer.

May I plead “connector overload”?

Apart from a couple of Nikon Cameras - which thankfully use a simple SD Card to record Data (easily transferred obviously), I have the Canon HD Camera, a Kindle, an iPad and a Blackberry - and use a Laptop to connect my TV to show Movies, Videos etc..

I have so many dam_n “connectors” USB, Mini USB, HDMI – and now I discover I also use Firewire! I sometimes get totally confused trying to remember which is which, what goes where ........... let alone remembering which “male“ should – or could – fit into which “female”!

Apologies again for any confusion caused!

Patrick

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