marinediscoking Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) The jet ski scam is still alive and well. Photos from a scam on some Indians across from Mike's shopping mall on Feb. 24th. as it just happened. After the renter disembarked while it was still in the water and then the owner took it back out and ran it into the beach at a high rate of speed. He then accusing them of damage to the under belly of the ski. Edited February 29, 2012 by marinediscoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinediscoking Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Photos from another scam on Feb 27th again opposite Mike's again to Indian tourists. Notice the thugs surrounding them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderman Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 nice pics marinediscoking taken at no small risk to the photographer. i am back on the manor soon , expect some updates to this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauljones Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Photos from another scam on Feb 27th again opposite Mike's again to Indian tourists. Notice the thugs surrounding them. This happens about ten times a day on Pattaya beach. That's 3,650 tourists scammed a year. Estimated 300,000THB stolen from tourists per day, = 109,500,000 THB. / year stolen from tourists. I wonder why the police and Mayor don't do something.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinediscoking Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) nice pics marinediscoking taken at no small risk to the photographer. i am back on the manor soon , expect some updates to this thread I try to hid my camera between my legs or hide it while taking photos and zoom in from quite a distance away. I don't just walk up and start snapping pic's. However if all else fails, I am still a fast runner. Edited February 29, 2012 by marinediscoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauljones Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) nice pics marinediscoking taken at no small risk to the photographer. i am back on the manor soon , expect some updates to this thread I try to hid my camera between my legs or hide it while taking photos and zoom in from quite a distance away. I don't just walk up and start snapping pic's. However if all else fails, I am still a fast runner. It's common knowledge, a tourist can be assaulted for taking snapshots on Pattaya Beach. Be careful. Edited February 29, 2012 by pauljones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoodMaiDai Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 nice pics marinediscoking taken at no small risk to the photographer. i am back on the manor soon , expect some updates to this thread I try to hid my camera between my legs or hide it while taking photos and zoom in from quite a distance away. I don't just walk up and start snapping pic's. However if all else fails, I am still a fast runner. It's common knowledge, a tourist can be assaulted for taking snapshots on Pattaya Beach. Be careful. THAT is the amazing thing. Forget the scam. These guys don't even get into trouble when they physically assault tourists. They can gang jump someone and the police won't even file a report over it. That is how you know they work with impunity and for those in high places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoodMaiDai Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Photos from another scam on Feb 27th again opposite Mike's again to Indian tourists. Notice the thugs surrounding them. Be sure to post those, one at a time, on the mayors facebook page. He's cronies will post one image at a time too in order to push them off. It's comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonsalviz Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Wouldn't it be easy enough to just snap a few photos of your own just befor you take to the water? Seems like that would stop them in their tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chops Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Why isn't Interpol on this? Governments? Embassies? Why aren't they doing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Wouldn't it be easy enough to just snap a few photos of your own just befor you take to the water? Seems like that would stop them in their tracks. It's what I always do when I rent a car, but I suspect with these guys you or your camera might wind up having an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asianrider Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 vote with your feet and don't use the jetski's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinediscoking Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 vote with your feet and don't use the jetski's The jet ski people know that not all tourist are informed and they only need a few to extort large sums daily. I think I saw a jet ski record today..... 4 scams happening at the same time 2 across from mike"s and 2 across from royal garden around 7pm. Yesterday I saw 3 happening around the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 What is needed is MORE SIGNAGE telling Visitors "DO NOT HIRE JETSKIS - IT IS A WEALTH HAZARD " Oh well !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Pattaya and Phuket need someone like Eliot Ness. He was an American officer with the Treasury Dept. during the times, in 1930's Chicago, when gangsters controlled the illegal liquor industry. Because Ness was a federal agent, he wasn't corrupt like the Chicago cops of that era. Added to that, Ness was tenacious, and with a few trusted accomplices, was able to bust the Al Capone and other crooks. Thailand needs an array of non-corruptable law enforcement personnel. Where to find them? Cambodia? Sweden? Fiji? The remaining Monkees? Edited March 3, 2012 by Rimmer quoted reply to removed post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Posts dragging public figures into this thread have been removed and another post edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Wouldn't it be easy enough to just snap a few photos of your own just befor you take to the water? Seems like that would stop them in their tracks. It would be smart to snap some photos before you take off, but you'll likely anger the punks renting the jetskis. It's like when I went to Burma border town and took photos of the vendors selling endangered animal parts. They and the jetski renters aren't dummies and they're quick to anger at any hint of something that might get them in trouble or interfere with the easy money they get with extortions. BTW, 2 months after I published the Burma venders' photos online, the stalls were gone, though one has resurfaced a few years later. Before there were tiger and leopard skins hanging at many places. Now you don't see any. Maybe my efforts worked. Similarly, if resident farang in Pattaya and Phuket are really intent on wiping out the extortionist jet ski renters, - it can be done, but it won't be easy or painless. Are you up for doing it? I've got some suggestions on how it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Using Thai Visa to coordinate any kind of action against these people will get this topic closed and the person with the bright ideas will go on permanent posting holiday so I suggest you forget any and all all ideas about lobbying Thai Visa members before you even start. See the following rule: 29) Not to lobby members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoodMaiDai Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Using Thai Visa to coordinate any kind of action against these people.... For the record, they are not "people." They are bottom feeding, wretched, pieces of trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderman Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 well i'm back and have made 2 beach visits over 2 days without a result. maybe bad luck it's not going to stop on it's own and neither am i going to make it up just to provide some copy on the story. a lot less people on the beach than january so the pool of potential customers / victims is less too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChangFai Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Striderman Definitely one going down at 4pm yesterday, across from Royal Garden. I was walking past on my way to the Beer Garden. Looked like a couple of Middle Eastern Gentlemen being stung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred110 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 well i'm back and have made 2 beach visits over 2 days without a result. maybe bad luck it's not going to stop on it's own and neither am i going to make it up just to provide some copy on the story. a lot less people on the beach than january so the pool of potential customers / victims is less too I met a US Marine who said they were thoroughly briefed on jet-skis and other scams. Maybe the word is getting out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoodMaiDai Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 well i'm back and have made 2 beach visits over 2 days without a result. maybe bad luck it's not going to stop on it's own and neither am i going to make it up just to provide some copy on the story. a lot less people on the beach than january so the pool of potential customers / victims is less too I met a US Marine who said they were thoroughly briefed on jet-skis and other scams. Maybe the word is getting out there. The word is out if English is your first language. That's why it's mostly Russians, Arabs, Persians, and Indians being targeted. What needs to happen is all of the info out there gets translated and passed around in the proper languages. Then everyone will have a chance if they do any research at all before they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinediscoking Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 well i'm back and have made 2 beach visits over 2 days without a result. maybe bad luck it's not going to stop on it's own and neither am i going to make it up just to provide some copy on the story. a lot less people on the beach than january so the pool of potential customers / victims is less too I met a US Marine who said they were thoroughly briefed on jet-skis and other scams. Maybe the word is getting out there. The word is out if English is your first language. That's why it's mostly Russians, Arabs, Persians, and Indians being targeted. What needs to happen is all of the info out there gets translated and passed around in the proper languages. Then everyone will have a chance if they do any research at all before they come. Seems the ruskies are informed about this also now. I rarely see them renting as they use to in years past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoodMaiDai Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 well i'm back and have made 2 beach visits over 2 days without a result. maybe bad luck it's not going to stop on it's own and neither am i going to make it up just to provide some copy on the story. a lot less people on the beach than january so the pool of potential customers / victims is less too I met a US Marine who said they were thoroughly briefed on jet-skis and other scams. Maybe the word is getting out there. The word is out if English is your first language. That's why it's mostly Russians, Arabs, Persians, and Indians being targeted. What needs to happen is all of the info out there gets translated and passed around in the proper languages. Then everyone will have a chance if they do any research at all before they come. Seems the ruskies are informed about this also now. I rarely see them renting as they use to in years past. Good. Sooner or later the gig will be up. It won't be because of the police or mayor, but it will be because tourists will be smarter and the word will be out in all languages. But then you need to fear what will come next. It already seems the same group is kidnapping people and doing so with the same blessings they have running the ski scam, so look out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinediscoking Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 There was a report of a jet ski hitting a russian female tourist swimming today. The photo and description can be seen on Pattaya Mayor Itthiphol Kunplome's facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/PattayaFuture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkev1888 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 well i'm back and have made 2 beach visits over 2 days without a result. maybe bad luck it's not going to stop on it's own and neither am i going to make it up just to provide some copy on the story. a lot less people on the beach than january so the pool of potential customers / victims is less too I met a US Marine who said they were thoroughly briefed on jet-skis and other scams. Maybe the word is getting out there. The word is out if English is your first language. That's why it's mostly Russians, Arabs, Persians, and Indians being targeted. What needs to happen is all of the info out there gets translated and passed around in the proper languages. Then everyone will have a chance if they do any research at all before they come. Seems the ruskies are informed about this also now. I rarely see them renting as they use to in years past. There where 2 Russians being scamed yesterday at the usual Mike shopping mall location around 5.30pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Jet Ski Scam Pattaya When Will It Stop After the next crackdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderman Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 seek and ye shall find. after a couple of fruitless sorties along pattaya beach over the last few days finally found one 16 20 opposite the car park entrance to royal garden plaza. Triple whammy 3 ski's 3 could have british falangs on the receiving end. retreated to the KFC terrace to take a couple of pics in safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieter1 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 The jet ski scam just shows what is going on in the whole society. This case is just kind of abnormal, because it is done in the very public, viewable for thousands of tourists, well known by the whole diplomatic chore and openly discussed in media- and still, it is going on. So to what conclusion you should come, what is going on in the shadow, in the not so openly visible parts of the Thai society ? Do the laws be equal for all Thais ? Is there a a real police force in Thailand like in some other western countries or is it just the major criminal organisation? Do the politicians work for the majority of the people or just for the most influential and most powerful (criminals) ? The jet ski scam is just the very ugly top of the iceberg... It is a very clear lesson for all of us not to forget, what we all (!) have to expect from this system. I think, for the Thai people, the jet ski scam is not that exciting cause they all know how things are working in their country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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