Abhisit To Speak To Yingluck On Assistance To Farmers Hit by Floods

[Lite Beer]

Abhisit to speak to Prime Minister Yingluck on assistance to farmers hit by floods

BANGKOK, 25 September 2011 (NNT)-Opposition leader Mr. Abhisit Vejjajiva is set to propose to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra to consider adopting the Democrat’s income guarantee scheme to help farmers who lost their farmlands to floods

The Former Prime Minister said while attending the anti-corruption campaign at Lumpini Park earlier today that farmers had no crops to enter the government’s pawning scheme due to heavy flooding.

The Opposition leader purported that farmers complained to him about their problem while he was visiting several areas hit by floods.

They asked if Mr. Abhisit could speak to the Prime Minister about the problem and ask the government to compensate for their losses.

-- NNT 2011-09-25

[scotbeve]

So what is Mark going to advise Yingluck to do? .... "Don't hand out any rotten canned fish to flood victims"... ????

[Buchholz]

So what is Mark going to advise Yingluck to do? .... "Don't hand out any rotten canned fish to flood victims"... ????

for those that apparently missed it:

Abhisit Vejjajiva is set to propose to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra to consider adopting the Democrat’s income guarantee scheme to help farmers who lost their farmlands to floods

[scotbeve]

So what is Mark going to advise Yingluck to do? .... "Don't hand out any rotten canned fish to flood victims"... ????

for those that apparently missed it:

Abhisit Vejjajiva is set to propose to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra to consider adopting the Democrat's income guarantee scheme to help farmers who lost their farmlands to floods

Bucholz,

Read it as such.... only taking the p_ss...

[phiphidon]

So what is Mark going to advise Yingluck to do? .... "Don't hand out any rotten canned fish to flood victims"... ????

for those that apparently missed it:

Abhisit Vejjajiva is set to propose to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra to consider adopting the Democrat's income guarantee scheme to help farmers who lost their farmlands to floods

I should think Abhisits advice on Flood Assistance compensation would be best avoided. It appears that Abhisit has been lying about how much his government spent on flood prevention and relief. Hence the cupboard is bare.

Government Spokesperson Titima Chaisang has exposed that the previous Democrat-led government had spent almost 50 billion baht on solving floods, contradicting the latter's report of about 20 billion baht.

Ms Titima announced that she had investigated the budget usage already and found out that the government under ex-Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva spent 47.5 billion baht in total forflood related missions, not over 20 billion baht as claimed.

The spokesperson then shot back a question at Mr Abhisit about his efficiency in the flood prevention and relief mission.

http://thainews.prd....id=255409050004

[TAWP]

So phiphidon is trying to highlight that the former government might have helped the poor that suffered from the flooding...too much.

While I strongly disagree with Abhisit that farmers should be entered into any income guarantee scheme, I think that relief efforts and disaster management is what the government should be aiming their resources to, monetarily - private companies should still be doing the actual work, and not day-to-day handouts to non-affected citizens (see: entitlements).

[MILT]

This is truly the way to show reconciliation and bringing unity by working together for the people. Will Yingluck take the advice of her adversary or her older brother.

Will this bipartisan reach out by Mark be look at as a classic (reach around) and be shunned for another Televised Charity event. Hell Yingluck is a billionaire she could easily step and show that her sincerity is genuine instead of fleecing the public for the funds to help out the rice farmer flood victims. Can't wait to see her response.

Edited September 25, 2011 by MILT

[lannarebirth]

This is truly the way to show reconciliation and bringing unity by working together for the people. Will Yingluck take the advice of her adversary or her older brother.

Will this bipartisan reach out by Mark be look at as a classic (reach around) and be shunned for another Televised Charity event. Hell Yingluck is a billionaire she could easily step and show that her sincerity is genuine instead of fleecing the public for the funds to help out the rice farmer flood victims. Can't wait to see her response.

Jesus! I hope she doesn't make the villagers supplicate themselves and grovel for 1,000 Bt banknotes from her bankroll as Thaksin did in Roi Et.

Edited September 25, 2011 by sbk

[473geo]

This is truly the way to show reconciliation and bringing unity by working together for the people. Will Yingluck take the advice of her adversary or her older brother.

Will this bipartisan reach out by Mark be look at as a classic (reach around) and be shunned for another Televised Charity event. Hell Yingluck is a billionaire she could easily step and show that her sincerity is genuine instead of fleecing the public for the funds to help out the rice farmer flood victims. Can't wait to see her response.

Jesus! I hope she doesn't make the villagers supplicate themselves and grovel for 1,000 Bt banknotes from her bankroll as Thaksin did in Roi Et.

Oh I think you know she is better than that.......otherwise you wouldn't have to keep throwing the mud hoping a little will stick......sad really.....

[lannarebirth]

This is truly the way to show reconciliation and bringing unity by working together for the people. Will Yingluck take the advice of her adversary or her older brother.

Will this bipartisan reach out by Mark be look at as a classic (reach around) and be shunned for another Televised Charity event. Hell Yingluck is a billionaire she could easily step and show that her sincerity is genuine instead of fleecing the public for the funds to help out the rice farmer flood victims. Can't wait to see her response.

Jesus! I hope she doesn't make the villagers supplicate themselves and grovel for 1,000 Bt banknotes from her pimp bankroll as Thaksin did in Roi Et.

Oh I think you know she is better than that.......otherwise you wouldn't have to keep throwing the mud hoping a little will stick......sad really.....

Oh, so you remember Thaksin's sabbatical to Roi Et, where he tried to escape the increasingly emboldened media and re-establish his ties with "his people" ? I'll tell you, it warmed my heart to see those old grannies laying prostrate with that oh so high wai grovelling for a 1,000 Bt banknote from his bankroll.

Edited September 25, 2011 by sbk

[473geo]

This is truly the way to show reconciliation and bringing unity by working together for the people. Will Yingluck take the advice of her adversary or her older brother.

Will this bipartisan reach out by Mark be look at as a classic (reach around) and be shunned for another Televised Charity event. Hell Yingluck is a billionaire she could easily step and show that her sincerity is genuine instead of fleecing the public for the funds to help out the rice farmer flood victims. Can't wait to see her response.

Jesus! I hope she doesn't make the villagers supplicate themselves and grovel for 1,000 Bt banknotes from her pimp bankroll as Thaksin did in Roi Et.

Oh I think you know she is better than that.......otherwise you wouldn't have to keep throwing the mud hoping a little will stick......sad really.....

Oh, so you remember Thaksin's sabbatical to Roi Et, where he tried to escape the increasingly emboldened media and re-establish his Thais with "his people" ? I'll tell you, it warmed my heart to see those old grannies laying prostrate with that oh so high wai grovelling for a 1,000 Bt banknote from his bankroll.

1000 baht more than you would give them I guess.......

[TAWP]

Oh, so you remember Thaksin's sabbatical to Roi Et, where he tried to escape the increasingly emboldened media and re-establish his Thais with "his people" ? I'll tell you, it warmed my heart to see those old grannies laying prostrate with that oh so high wai grovelling for a 1,000 Bt banknote from his bankroll.

1000 baht more than you would give them I guess.......

Apart from you knowing nothing of lannarebirth's philanderer life, you should also note that it is very easy to give away money that isn't yours...the benefit of being a PM and the enormous wallet of the government to hand out gifts from.

[lannarebirth]

Oh, so you remember Thaksin's sabbatical to Roi Et, where he tried to escape the increasingly emboldened media and re-establish his Thais with "his people" ? I'll tell you, it warmed my heart to see those old grannies laying prostrate with that oh so high wai grovelling for a 1,000 Bt banknote from his bankroll.

1000 baht more than you would give them I guess.......

Apart from you knowing nothing of lannarebirth's philanderer life, you should also note that it is very easy to give away money that isn't yours...the benefit of being a PM and the enormous wallet of the government to hand out gifts from.

I'd be more than happy to tell you about my philanderer life, if i had one. Sadly, that's not the case. As for my philanthropist's life I'm of that tiny school that says if you talk about it that negates some of the goodwill, so I'm not going there.

[MAJIC]

This is truly the way to show reconciliation and bringing unity by working together for the people. Will Yingluck take the advice of her adversary or her older brother.

Will this bipartisan reach out by Mark be look at as a classic (reach around) and be shunned for another Televised Charity event. Hell Yingluck is a billionaire she could easily step and show that her sincerity is genuine instead of fleecing the public for the funds to help out the rice farmer flood victims. Can't wait to see her response.

Yes and her empathy for her own people is that lacking,that it took Abhisit to give advice,on how she should be helping the flood victims.

Totally clueless!

[TAWP]

lannarebirth>> I'm gonna blame that one on my phones auto-correct.

[moe666]

Sorry to the farmers but they should have thought it thru before voting PTP in.

[webfact]

Abhisit pleads farmers' case in meet with PM

By The Nation

Opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday personally handed Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra a letter asking that the government help flood-hit farmers who registered for a proposed income-guarantee scheme that was shelved when the Democrat Party lost the election in July.

Abhisit encountered Yingluck during their first official public appearance together at an anti-corruption event in Lumpini Park.

Abhisit said that during his visits to flood victims in several provinces, many farmers told him they had either lost their crops entirely or been forced to harvest and sell them early to escape imminent flooding. So, they would not be entitled to participate in the Pheu Thai government's rice-pledging scheme, which will kick off on October 7.

"We are not concerned if the government scraps the income-guarantee scheme, but we want the government to pay an allowance to farmers who have registered for help,'' Abhisit said.

While the Democrats campaigned on a promise to launch the income guarantee, Pheu Thai's rice-pledging plan promises farmers as much as Bt15,000 per tonne in a bid to boost prices.

Yingluck's government has vowed to push ahead with the scheme, despite strong criticism that the scheme is prone to corruption, costly due to high rents and runs the risk of stored rice being left to rot.

Yingluck agreed to look into the problem, instructing Deputy Prime Minister and Commerce Minister Kittirat na Ranong to consider Abhisit's proposal.

Abhisit asked the premier if the government has any measures in place to prevent traders, millers and exporters from pledging rice from neighbouring countries.

He said farmers would not benefit from the rice-pledging scheme because they had rushed to sell their rice for fear of being wiped out by floods. Though the government has extended the scheme to February 1 next year, they would not be able to cultivate rice by then, as they would have to wait for floods to recede.

Yingluck and Abhisit were asked by the organiser of the anti-corruption campaign to sit together on the same bench. While initially cool towards each other, Yingluck broke the ice by wai-ing the more senior Abhisit. Then they briefly talked and took a walk as part of the anti-corruption campaign from Lumpini Park to Silom Road. They did not talk during the walk and Yingluck concluded her walk before the rally ended.

In Nakhon Ratchasima, meanwhile, some 500 employees of over 40 agencies joined forces for the anti-corruption campaign, going on a walk in the city to boost public awareness of the evil of corruption.

-- The Nation 2011-09-26

[MaiChai]

Another well thought through scheme by PT. Most of Thailand is under water so where will the rice be available to harvest?

[rubl]

The other newspaper had a newsflash today with Pheu Thai party list MP Prompong Nopparit submitting a letter to Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit asking him to cancel a THB 77M flood relief program for Buriram province. The diversion of the fund was irregular because there had been no flood damage there.

No idea, not being in Buriram. Maybe some members can throw light on this ? 'no flooding, help irregular' or a case of 'those voted for BJT, not important'?

Edited September 26, 2011 by rubl

[mca]

Apart from you knowing nothing of lannarebirth's philanderer life,

I never knew he studied stamps. You learn something new every day.

[Thai at Heart]

So phiphidon is trying to highlight that the former government might have helped the poor that suffered from the flooding...too much.

While I strongly disagree with Abhisit that farmers should be entered into any income guarantee scheme, I think that relief efforts and disaster management is what the government should be aiming their resources to, monetarily - private companies should still be doing the actual work, and not day-to-day handouts to non-affected citizens (see: entitlements).

I think some kind of disaster insurance is more than in order. If an average farmer has say less than 500k of product per year, it should be quite easy to do. This flooding bear in mind is caused to some extent by government strategy to prevent Bangkok going under 10ft of water. If some bureaucrat is told to turn the tap on which floods my land to a greater extent that it would have been had he not, presumably the bureaucrat/government owes me some compensation.

Of course, the other alternative is for the government to spend a few trillion and rebuild the rivers to make sure they don't flood. I think compensating the farmers will turn out to be far far cheaper. Problem is, I don't see it as a long term plan to keep flooding all the land north of Bangkok year after year to save Bangkok. Plan B is well overdue.

[scotbeve]

This is truly the way to show reconciliation and bringing unity by working together for the people. Will Yingluck take the advice of her adversary or her older brother.

Will this bipartisan reach out by Mark be look at as a classic (reach around) and be shunned for another Televised Charity event. Hell Yingluck is a billionaire she could easily step and show that her sincerity is genuine instead of fleecing the public for the funds to help out the rice farmer flood victims. Can't wait to see her response.

MILT,

So you're implying that the PM has had her hand in the till and pocketed some funds!? Proof????? Show it.... OR, you think that she has not donated any money for the flood victims? Have you donated?

[scotbeve]

Another well thought through scheme by PT. Most of Thailand is under water so where will the rice be available to harvest?

A bit of exaggerating.... "Most of Thailand is under water".... Rice harvest is on in many districts in the north....

[phiphidon]

So phiphidon is trying to highlight that the former government might have helped the poor that suffered from the flooding...too much.

While I strongly disagree with Abhisit that farmers should be entered into any income guarantee scheme, I think that relief efforts and disaster management is what the government should be aiming their resources to, monetarily - private companies should still be doing the actual work, and not day-to-day handouts to non-affected citizens (see: entitlements).

No, quite the contrary! I was highlighting the fact that despite Abhisits lies about how much was spent on flooding he didn't use the money he actually spent in an efficient way.

[rubl]

No, quite the contrary! I was highlighting the fact that despite Abhisits lies about how much was spent on flooding he didn't use the money he actually spent in an efficient way.

Please elaborate on the "Abhisit's lies", it's not in the OP. Also on the "not in an efficient way".

Mind you, flood relief / aid is AFTER the event. Since this happens yearly (twice yearly?) flood prevention should move up on the agenda. Saves money eventually

[phiphidon]

No, quite the contrary! I was highlighting the fact that despite Abhisits lies about how much was spent on flooding he didn't use the money he actually spent in an efficient way.

Please elaborate on the "Abhisit's lies", it's not in the OP. Also on the "not in an efficient way".

Mind you, flood relief / aid is AFTER the event. Since this happens yearly (twice yearly?) flood prevention should move up on the agenda. Saves money eventually

http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255409050004

[hammered]

No, quite the contrary! I was highlighting the fact that despite Abhisits lies about how much was spent on flooding he didn't use the money he actually spent in an efficient way.

Please elaborate on the "Abhisit's lies", it's not in the OP. Also on the "not in an efficient way".

Mind you, flood relief / aid is AFTER the event. Since this happens yearly (twice yearly?) flood prevention should move up on the agenda. Saves money eventually

http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255409050004

The question Thitima asks is a good one albeit pure politics and works on the PTP campaign that dems are:

1. all nice well educated mouth but no action (works quite well as that is their reputation)

2. as corrupt as anyone else (which sells well in PTP heartlands but is a harder sell with the media and dem supporting middle classes which is of course where it is aimed)