webfact Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Pheu Thai Spokesperson: Opposition Has Plot to Overthrow Yingluck Govt The Pheu Thai Party spokesperson said that an anti-government group is planning to topple the government by May of next year. Pheu Thai Party Spokesperson Prompong Nopparit said that security agencies are reporting that there have been movements by political groups and former power holders, who are planning to topple the Yingluck Shinawatra administration. He said that the Opposition intendeds to carry out a nine-step plan to discredit the government. In the initial stage, the Opposition media, local people, as well as activists, in the guise of non-governmental organizations, will attack Pheu Thai Party's policies and its individual members. In addition, it will pressure bureaucrats in various ministries not to cooperate with the present administration and encourage those who have been transferred unfairly to lodge a petition asking for justice. Moreover, it will spread rumors that the Pheu Thai-led government is trying to help fugitive former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Plus, it will accuse the government of not being loyal to the monarchy. Its main objective is to dissolve the Pheu Thai Party. He said that he will report the issue at Pheu Thai Party's meeting on Tuesday, so that the government can launch an investigation, and so that it can take precautionary measures to thwart the plot. Meanwhile, Democrat MP for Suratthani Thepthai Senapong took a shot at the government regarding its failures since getting into office over two months ago, pointing out that the PM's popularity has declined drastically. Moreover, the government continues to raise many isssues, such as the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration's dummy cameras case and a constitutional amendment, in an effort to distract people from the Pheu Thai administration's failures. -- Tan Network 2011-10-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The Democrat MP obviosuly forgot to point out that even after 2 months of attack dog mentality by the Dems, their media mates and their establishment handlers and mass floods that Yinglucks popularity as PM (in the high 30s to low 40s in most categories) still remianed well ahead of the popularity of Abhisit (in the teens in most categories and usually the low ones when PM according to the most recent poll. It doesnt help if your opponents popualrity is low if your own is far lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Oh dear, talk about paranoia. On the other hand: "Moreover, it will spread rumors that the Pheu Thai-led government is trying to help fugitive former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra." Rumors? Hardly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daninthai Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 In addition, it will pressure bureaucrats in various ministries not to cooperate with the present administration and encourage those who have been transferred unfairly to lodge a petition asking for justice.Maybe it's just the translating, but it sounds like an admission that people were transferred unfairly.The whole thing is stupid. If PTP does any or all of those things, of course the Dems will be on their back about it. Why shouldn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taff33 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 As Black Adder would say "I have a plan" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 May of next year? will they last that long........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Yingluck's replacement at AIS furthers the conspiracy theory... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Thai 3G Plan Could Be Derailed by ‘Conspiracy,’ Wichian Says Oct. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Thailand’s six-year struggle to sell licenses for third-generation wireless services may be derailed by politics, said Wichian Mektrakarn, head of the phone company founded by exiled leader Thaksin Shinawatra. Advanced Info Service Pcl, operator of the nation’s biggest mobile-phone network, and rivals Total Access Communication Pcl and True Corp. Pcl began offering limited 3G services earlier this year. Advanced is reluctant to invest more until the government auctions licenses and sets rules for operating the service, Wichian said in an interview in Bangkok. “I believe there is still some kind of conspiracy, or some kind of movement to try to stop or delay 3G,” said Wichian, 57, who took over as CEO from Yingluck Shinawatra, Thaksin’s sister and Thailand’s current prime minister. “There are still a lot of obstacles. Anything can happen in Thailand.” continues: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-10-02/thai-3g-plan-could-be-derailed-by-conspiracy-wichian-says.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Seems like they are trying to justify an imminent curtail of free speech. Claim that criticism of the government is the first step of a conspiracy to overthrow the government (through undemocratic means we presume), therefore extreme measures are needed to counteract this extreme threat. It also plays well to keep their base fired up, a simple "Coup of the Month" scare cry may have been blunted by its continuous use during the past two or three years, they need something new, more sexy to keep the people on edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cayenne Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Dear Prompong, Congratulations on uncovering our devious plot. You now have an excuse to blame your failure to implement policies on us and tell your red supporters that we are behind everything including the floods and inflation. If you want suggestions on how to stop us, we recommend you talk to Lady Croft. Signed, The Illuminati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If there had been a similar headline, "Opposition has Plot to Overthrow Abhisit Govt: Democrat Party Spokesman", at any time in the past couple of years, it would surely have been equally true ? Because most of what's alleged is simply normal democratic politics at work. Throw-in the fact that some of the allegations are true, that the new government does seem to be obsessed with preparing the way for Thaksin's return for-example, or that they're failing to deliver on some important pre-election promises, well what exactly does PTP want ... should the loyal Opposition simply keep silent about these things ? PTP has been trying to whip-up coup-fever for years now, it must be intensely frustrating for them, that it remains untrue, and hopefully that will continue to be the case. Shouldn't they now start-in on their policy of reconciliation instead ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If there had been a similar headline, "Opposition has Plot to Overthrow Abhisit Govt: Democrat Party Spokesman", at any time in the past couple of years, it would surely have been equally true ? Because most of what's alleged is simply normal democratic politics at work. Throw-in the fact that some of the allegations are true, that the new government does seem to be obsessed with preparing the way for Thaksin's return for-example, or that they're failing to deliver on some important pre-election promises, well what exactly does PTP want ... should the loyal Opposition simply keep silent about these things ? PTP has been trying to whip-up coup-fever for years now, it must be intensely frustrating for them, that it remains untrue, and hopefully that will continue to be the case. Shouldn't they now start-in on their policy of reconciliation instead ? Good analysis Ricardo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstarbkk Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Sounds like they're setting the stage for a witch-hunt against anyone who dares to disagree with them. A perfect excuse to deploy extraordinary measures like censorship and repressive/ punitive actions against the media and any political and civic entity that may get in their way. Mention of such entities as "opposition media, local people, as well as activists, in the guise of non-governmental organizations" give us a good idea whom they are after. I cannot imagine how anyone could spread vicious rumors "that the Pheu Thai-led government is trying to help fugitive former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra". That's just outrageous speculation which lacks any evidence to support it. Edited October 3, 2011 by fstarbkk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtonormal Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Seems like they are trying to justify an imminent curtail of free speech. Claim that criticism of the government is the first step of a conspiracy to overthrow the government (through undemocratic means we presume), therefore extreme measures are needed to counteract this extreme threat. It also plays well to keep their base fired up, a simple "Coup of the Month" scare cry may have been blunted by its continuous use during the past two or three years, they need something new, more sexy to keep the people on edge. The anti PT media, does that include TV Read the full story here good reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Is there any evidence to substantiate these claims or is it just all hot air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardholder Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Sounds like they're setting the stage for a witch-hunt against anyone who dares to disagree with them. A perfect excuse to deploy extraordinary measures like censorship and repressive/ punitive actions against the media and any political and civic entity that may get in their way. Mention of such entities as "opposition media, local people, as well as activists, in the guise of non-governmental organizations" give us a good idea whom they are after. I cannot imagine how anyone could spread vicious rumors "that the Pheu Thai-led government is trying to help fugitive former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra". That's just outrageous speculation which lacks any evidence to support it. sarcasm of the day award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 so soon not 3mths since the election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotbeve Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The Democrat MP obviosuly forgot to point out that even after 2 months of attack dog mentality by the Dems, their media mates and their establishment handlers and mass floods that Yinglucks popularity as PM (in the high 30s to low 40s in most categories) still remianed well ahead of the popularity of Abhisit (in the teens in most categories and usually the low ones when PM according to the most recent poll. It doesnt help if your opponents popualrity is low if your own is far lower Yes, hammered. And the two most important words you mentioned are, "2 months"... The short time this administration has been in office but barreling along on the fast track to try and clean up the mess left for the past 3 years... And the country's coffers??? A completely other side-subject that should be have new thread, "Where did all the money go???" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Yes, hammered. And the two most important words you mentioned are, "2 months"... The short time this administration has been in office but barreling along on the fast track to try and clean up the mess left for the past 3 years... And the country's coffers??? A completely other side-subject that should be have new thread, "Where did all the money go???" Has there been a suggestion that it's gone? What have the PTP done to clean up any mess? They haven't done anything, let alone cleaning up previous messes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serenitynow Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Yes, hammered. And the two most important words you mentioned are, "2 months"... The short time this administration has been in office but barreling along on the fast track to try and clean up the mess left for the past 3 years... And the country's coffers??? A completely other side-subject that should be have new thread, "Where did all the money go???" Has there been a suggestion that it's gone? What have the PTP done to clean up any mess? They haven't done anything, let alone cleaning up previous messes. To be fair, PTP HAS conducted a ceremony prior to sending off a caravan of rubber boots and spoiled food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotbeve Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Seems like they are trying to justify an imminent curtail of free speech. Claim that criticism of the government is the first step of a conspiracy to overthrow the government (through undemocratic means we presume), therefore extreme measures are needed to counteract this extreme threat. It also plays well to keep their base fired up, a simple "Coup of the Month" scare cry may have been blunted by its continuous use during the past two or three years, they need something new, more sexy to keep the people on edge. The anti PT media, does that include TV Read the full story here good reading Backtonormal, Thanks for the link above - it was a good read!. As usual, editing for a certain side - as with polls - is abominable in the Thai press as well goes how biased some forums, blogs, and other social networks can be and in fact are VERY biased.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Next thing, the PT guy surely will be warning that masses of armed demonstrators are secretly planning to lay siege to Bangkok, take over various other provincial centers, and engage in looting and arson in an attempt to destabilize and overthrow the current government.... OOOPS.... They already executed that plan before... and it worked.... Maybe he was mistakenly reading from their own PT 9-point plan.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The Democrat MP obviosuly forgot to point out that even after 2 months of attack dog mentality by the Dems, their media mates and their establishment handlers and mass floods that Yinglucks popularity as PM (in the high 30s to low 40s in most categories) still remianed well ahead of the popularity of Abhisit (in the teens in most categories and usually the low ones when PM according to the most recent poll. It doesnt help if your opponents popualrity is low if your own is far lower You forgot to mention that the Dems are using the same strategy that the PT did when they were trying to topple the government. The only difference is they are not mounting an armed uprising. Also Yingluck can be the most popular Prime Minister ever in the whole world. That will not make one bit of difference when it comes to doing the work of a Prime Minister. She is still not a good PM. That is not to say she couldn't be. But I doubt she has the gumption to tell her brother to but out and let her try to run the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunterHunter Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 You forgot to mention that the Dems are using the same strategy that the PT did when they were trying to topple the government. The only difference is they are not mounting an armed uprising. Not yet at least... and should they try, they should be allowed to do so, otherwise the government would be guilty of 'double standards' This could get entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Pheu Thai Party Spokesperson Prompong Nopparit said that security agencies are reporting that there have been movements by political groups and former power holders, who are planning to topple the Yingluck Shinawatra administration. Actually, I can think of one former power holder who very much wants to get back into his old job... Wonder if he's behind the whole grand scheme.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Perhaps the tactics mooted will be the same as these in the video clips. http://youtu.be/2_-Yc1ZRCsg Edited October 3, 2011 by siampolee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The Democrat MP obviosuly forgot to point out that even after 2 months of attack dog mentality by the Dems, their media mates and their establishment handlers and mass floods that Yinglucks popularity as PM (in the high 30s to low 40s in most categories) still remianed well ahead of the popularity of Abhisit (in the teens in most categories and usually the low ones when PM according to the most recent poll. It doesnt help if your opponents popualrity is low if your own is far lower Yes, hammered. And the two most important words you mentioned are, "2 months"... The short time this administration has been in office but barreling along on the fast track to try and clean up the mess left for the past 3 years... And the country's coffers??? A completely other side-subject that should be have new thread, "Where did all the money go???" In two months they have fast tracked weaseling out of their election promises. They have been fast tracking the return of Thaksin. Are you suggesting they should be given another six months to help the flood victims. Perhaps if they would try to live up to their election promises they would in fact be cleaning up some of the previous problems. That includes problems all the way back to Thaksin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotbeve Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Yes, hammered. And the two most important words you mentioned are, "2 months"... The short time this administration has been in office but barreling along on the fast track to try and clean up the mess left for the past 3 years... And the country's coffers??? A completely other side-subject that should be have new thread, "Where did all the money go???" Has there been a suggestion that it's gone? What have the PTP done to clean up any mess? They haven't done anything, let alone cleaning up previous messes. Here's a drop in the bucket... http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255409050004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Perhaps the rabid Thaksin and P. T..P. Personal Thaksin Property supporters might like to consider this clip as well, arare they so blind and deaf to the realities of Thaksin and his brown nosing acolytes true aims. media]http://youtu.be/l5vH4_SeGSI[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotbeve Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The Democrat MP obviosuly forgot to point out that even after 2 months of attack dog mentality by the Dems, their media mates and their establishment handlers and mass floods that Yinglucks popularity as PM (in the high 30s to low 40s in most categories) still remianed well ahead of the popularity of Abhisit (in the teens in most categories and usually the low ones when PM according to the most recent poll. It doesnt help if your opponents popualrity is low if your own is far lower Yes, hammered. And the two most important words you mentioned are, "2 months"... The short time this administration has been in office but barreling along on the fast track to try and clean up the mess left for the past 3 years... And the country's coffers??? A completely other side-subject that should be have new thread, "Where did all the money go???" In two months they have fast tracked weaseling out of their election promises. They have been fast tracking the return of Thaksin. Are you suggesting they should be given another six months to help the flood victims. Perhaps if they would try to live up to their election promises they would in fact be cleaning up some of the previous problems. That includes problems all the way back to Thaksin. One step at a time... these devastating floods are the worst (if you total up the whole of Thailand's floods these past 30-40 days) ever seen or recorded. Why don't we just step back a while and see how the current government handles this disaster, then you all can slag as much as you want... BTW - there are present problems that can be linked back to the 30's when total rule by monarchy was changed. As well as quite a few other issues since then... some solved, some not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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