Repulsive Guys Coercing Young Girls To Stay With Them

[manarak]

I don't usually get worked up about a lot of things in the girls department, but the behavior of some guys of the repulsive sort disgusts me.

For the third time I came across a young girl with a similar story:

they currently stay, or have stayed with a repulsive guy who supports/bribes the girl's family so that her parents force the girl to stay with the guy.

I am talking about guys aged 45 - 55, chain smokers who barely can get it up anymore who are coercing young girls (? to about 22) to stay with them by using their greedy parents.

They send money directly to the parents of the girl instead of giving it to her. This way, she is deprived of any say in the matter.

The first two girls I saw were hookers, one took up hooking when her "man" wasn't in the country just to be able to provide for a replacement income when she would dump him.

But mama found it was even more profitable to have her hooking AND get the support payments, so the girl is rather pissed off and spent some time with me to relax, climax and forget... for a moment.

She's not so motivated anymore to work for her mother's pockets, although she will keep up the facade, which means getting much more of these french kisses tasting like harbor mud.

The first two girls didn't impress me too much, even if the last story is sad enough.

One good side effect of stressed sponsored two-timers is that they will want some relax time (no charge) with guys with which the chemistry is good.

Anyway... yesterday it just got better.

Met a 19 yo who just had her birthday.

Chemistry is very good and she begins to tell me how she met her first farang "boyfriend".

The girl is not even from Pattaya. about a year ago she came from the village with her relatives to visit another relative who has a business on soi 3.

There the just 18 year old was spotted by a 50 yo who then spoke straight away to the family about an "arrangement".

It was done for just 5000 baht a month!!!

After 3 months she couldn't take it anymore and left him - she just said "mai dee" for her and didn't want to give much details - but the guy still calls her mother and offers more money!!!

I was at a nice beach with the girl when her mother called about him, she just sat there motionless with a sad expression on her face, emitting a "hmmm" every odd minute into the phone.

After the call she explained to me the old farang had just called to say sabai dee mai? to her mother and offer more money.

How sick is this?

[WebBangkok]

When I was 19, this 42 year old half Japanese girl half Aussie girl took advantage of me too.

Dam that is a great memory, I wonder where she is now.

[Ulysses G.]

When I was 19, this 42 year old half Japanese girl half Aussie girl took advantage of me too.

That sounds a lot more reality based than this thread.

[TheWalkingMan]

If this is true, I cannot get upset at the guys. Some might call them sleazy, but the parents took the money. No one put a guy to their heads and said, "Rent me your daughter." The parents took the money.

Your repulsive feelings should be directed at the parents and not at the guys who are getting it at village prices. As crappy as the situation for the girl may be, it is better to get it a village prices rather than the farang premium.

Aren't these guys just doing things the village Thai way? The older guy pays off the parents who then send the daughter off with the guy. Get mad at the culture of this and not at the non-Thai guy who just followed the rules.

[Dag]

' climax and forget.'

...............engrish teacher me finks.

[zzaa09]

Ain't love grand....??

[Spoonman]

' climax and forget.'

...............engrish teacher me finks.

Caring is sharing, Nice that he got to fuc_k for free whilst they "forgot"...........

[Tonto21]

Hi 'manarak' … I would suspect there are as many victim as predator amongst the guys you have portrayed in your post, just like the girls that tell you there story.

It's very easy to look into a pretty girl's eyes, (with a few beers on board) and swallow all the bullshit that may come your way and then see some old fart as a predator.

Fact is, there's good and bad everywhere you look, not all old gits are bad….And not all angelic faced young Thai girls are telling you the truth.

Anyway……How do you know what a French kiss tastes like from anold boy or whether they can get it up?

Edited October 4, 2011 by Tonto21

[manarak]

Hi 'manarak' … I would suspect there are as many victim as predator amongst the guys you have portrayed in your post, just like the girls that tell you there story.

It's very easy to look into a pretty girl's eyes, (with a few beers on board) and swallow all the bullshit that may come your way and then see some old fart as a predator.

Fact is, there's good and bad everywhere you look, not all old gits are bad….And not all angelic faced young Thai girls are telling you the truth.

Anyway……How do you know what a French kiss tastes like from anold boy or whether they can get it up?

Well, the question was not about the veracity of these stories, but about what is told.

The taste of a french kiss is not so much a matter of age as of chain smoking. I kissed heavy smokers a couple of times in my life and it was absolutely eeeeeeeeeeeek klong nam taste. And they hadn't been smoking for more than 5 or 6 years, mind you.

I also don't have a problem with senior citizens getting young girlfriends, much less with them screwing them. Pops also needs his pleasure!

But I got a problem with people who deal with the parents to get the girl, using the authority the parents have over their daughter to deprive her of her say in her choice of a customer/supporter/sugar daddy - the girl can't even lie to her parents about the customer when she can't take it anymore ("he die")... no, she has to go cry at her parents' and lose face in front of the whole family, the little sister who will have to pay herself for her motrorcycle and in front of the brother who had already waited for so long to get a second hand truck.

The amount of pressure put on the girl just isn't fair in that situation, she is totally trapped.

[manarak]

' climax and forget.'

...............engrish teacher me finks.

Caring is sharing, Nice that he got to fuc_k for free whilst they "forgot"...........

arf, give me a break.

many do the same, but never got the story behind their new giks.

[IanForbes]

Yes, I remember seeing this poor young Thai girl being scammed by a long haired hippy looking guy in his twenties who smelt of cigarettes and sweat, and he was trying to get the girl to have sex with him for free. The poor young thing was actually falling for the sleazebag's sad story.

[smokie36]

Yes, I remember seeing this poor young Thai girl being scammed by a long haired hippy looking guy in his twenties who smelt of cigarettes and sweat, and he was trying to get the girl to have sex with him for free. The poor young thing was actually falling for the sleazebag's sad story.

I have sweaty socks and wear a skirt apparently and I've been getting it free from time to time for more than twenty years. This whippersnapper is just jealous...get down to RCA and have some fun mate!

[Jigger]

There are thousands of stories of Thai Girls stuffing Farangs... I say good work to the men you mention in this post.

[rodcourt49]

Ain't love grand....??

..about 5g a month it seems!

[ludditeman]

It's amazing the stories some guys will swallow.

Especially the young and handsome guys who want it free.

Message to young and handsome white guys.

If young and pretty Thai girls had a free choice, they would choose a young and handsome Thai guy, NOT YOU.

You are taking just as much advantage of them as anyone else, only you are naive enough to believe the lies.

Edited October 5, 2011 by ludditeman

[FWIW]

Well this is weird.

We have the Knight in shining armour, the poor besmirched girl with grasping parents and the evil old farang, but where was the sick buffalo??

[overherebc]

Well this is weird.

We have the Knight in shining armour, the poor besmirched girl with grasping parents and the evil old farang, but where was the sick buffalo??

+1

Ever since he made the first Bond film Iv'e been waiting for Pierce Brosnan to come to Pattaya. Maybe now I can find him and get hia autograph.

[TommyDee]

QUOTE...The girl is not even from Pattaya. about a year ago she came from the village with her relatives to visit another relative who has a business on soi 3.

Hmmm, very few are. i would bet that 95% of the young ladies here are imports

[zorro1]

"I am talking about guys aged 45 - 55, chain smokers who barely can get it up anymore who are coercing young girls"

this may surprise the O/P but some girls like older men. My second wife was 16 years younger and last g/f was 20 years younger and both western, strangely enough my Thai g/f is the oldest

what has smoking to do with it? cant get it up? Viagra is everywhere even the young guys use it as a recreational drug for, errm ...more recreation

[QED]

I was thinking the same as the OP, about how gross this is.

Then I thought about arranged marriages. What % of the world's population believe in that? Normally that involves the groom (or family) paying money to the brides family for the right to marry her - not much different really and practiced by millions around the world.

At least the girls the OP mentions didn't have to get married...

[Old Croc]

french kisses tasting like harbor mud

My GF eats fish tasting like this then wants to kiss me.

[kerryk]

Hi 'manarak' … I would suspect there are as many victim as predator amongst the guys you have portrayed in your post, just like the girls that tell you there story.

It's very easy to look into a pretty girl's eyes, (with a few beers on board) and swallow all the bullshit that may come your way and then see some old fart as a predator.

Fact is, there's good and bad everywhere you look, not all old gits are bad….And not all angelic faced young Thai girls are telling you the truth.

Anyway……How do you know what a French kiss tastes like from anold boy or whether they can get it up?

Well, the question was not about the veracity of these stories, but about what is told.

The taste of a french kiss is not so much a matter of age as of chain smoking. I kissed heavy smokers a couple of times in my life and it was absolutely eeeeeeeeeeeek klong nam taste. And they hadn't been smoking for more than 5 or 6 years, mind you.

I also don't have a problem with senior citizens getting young girlfriends, much less with them screwing them. Pops also needs his pleasure!

But I got a problem with people who deal with the parents to get the girl, using the authority the parents have over their daughter to deprive her of her say in her choice of a customer/supporter/sugar daddy - the girl can't even lie to her parents about the customer when she can't take it anymore ("he die")... no, she has to go cry at her parents' and lose face in front of the whole family, the little sister who will have to pay herself for her motrorcycle and in front of the brother who had already waited for so long to get a second hand truck.

The amount of pressure put on the girl just isn't fair in that situation, she is totally trapped.

You are setting yourself up as a bit of a moral judge here. I think you can see that. Defining as it were some new commandments for us Farangs in Thailand to follow. I am not saying you are wrong. Perhaps you are the new Godhead of the Farang race living in Thailand.

In fairness though I think your commandments should be a bit more specific.

I get the repulsive thing I think. Starting at 45 guys who smoke and have erectile dysfunction are repulsive. Give me some insight here, if I am 39, smoke and can still get it up, I'm not repulsive? So I am not bound by this particular commandment if I am under 45 and what about if I can still get it up when I am over 45 or don't smoke? Can guys who don't smoke coerce women regardless of age?

It seems you have identified the female age as 22. But I just wanted to check. If I am over 45, smoke and have erectile dysfunction it is OK for me to coerce women of 23 years of age?

Assuming you will clarify these questions, thank you for your help in this matter.

[Orac]

The OP seems to be saying that some older men travel to Thailand pay for sex with women and some of these women are pressured into this by their parents.

I for one am shocked by these allegations and find it offensive that he should be implying that some people are not here for the temples and culture.

Living in Pattaya it is gratifying to see many of these older gentlemen heading for the library in soi 6 to seek further education about the place.

[zzaa09]

Would really be repulsive and disgusting if we were discussing 15 year old girls....

[manarak]

Hi 'manarak' … I would suspect there are as many victim as predator amongst the guys you have portrayed in your post, just like the girls that tell you there story.

It's very easy to look into a pretty girl's eyes, (with a few beers on board) and swallow all the bullshit that may come your way and then see some old fart as a predator.

Fact is, there's good and bad everywhere you look, not all old gits are bad….And not all angelic faced young Thai girls are telling you the truth.

Anyway……How do you know what a French kiss tastes like from anold boy or whether they can get it up?

Well, the question was not about the veracity of these stories, but about what is told.

The taste of a french kiss is not so much a matter of age as of chain smoking. I kissed heavy smokers a couple of times in my life and it was absolutely eeeeeeeeeeeek klong nam taste. And they hadn't been smoking for more than 5 or 6 years, mind you.

I also don't have a problem with senior citizens getting young girlfriends, much less with them screwing them. Pops also needs his pleasure!

But I got a problem with people who deal with the parents to get the girl, using the authority the parents have over their daughter to deprive her of her say in her choice of a customer/supporter/sugar daddy - the girl can't even lie to her parents about the customer when she can't take it anymore ("he die")... no, she has to go cry at her parents' and lose face in front of the whole family, the little sister who will have to pay herself for her motrorcycle and in front of the brother who had already waited for so long to get a second hand truck.

The amount of pressure put on the girl just isn't fair in that situation, she is totally trapped.

You are setting yourself up as a bit of a moral judge here. I think you can see that. Defining as it were some new commandments for us Farangs in Thailand to follow. I am not saying you are wrong. Perhaps you are the new Godhead of the Farang race living in Thailand.

In fairness though I think your commandments should be a bit more specific.

I get the repulsive thing I think. Starting at 45 guys who smoke and have erectile dysfunction are repulsive. Give me some insight here, if I am 39, smoke and can still get it up, I'm not repulsive? So I am not bound by this particular commandment if I am under 45 and what about if I can still get it up when I am over 45 or don't smoke? Can guys who don't smoke coerce women regardless of age?

It seems you have identified the female age as 22. But I just wanted to check. If I am over 45, smoke and have erectile dysfunction it is OK for me to coerce women of 23 years of age?

Assuming you will clarify these questions, thank you for your help in this matter.

ok, take out the age and other aspects like smoking, etc, sorry for that!

It wasn't the purpose of my post to single out the older guys (an even chain smokers, I ust happened to kiss a couple of heavily smoking girls who had done so for only 5 or 6 years and it was just eeeeeeeeek, so this left an impression on me).

I see now I made a mistake, because it distracts totally from the point I wanted to make:

My central point is: I think the right thing to do is to deal only with the girl, and not use her parents to coerce her into something she doesn't want.

I think paying the parents to apply psychological pressure on the girls is disgusting.

This topic is not about age or smoking, I see it clearly now.

The other aspects (chain-smoking, ED, age, drug use, etc.) are only factors that make such a coercion necessary to keep the girl...

I did the mistake of characterizing the guys acting that way, but I still think bribing the parents of the girls is a very low thing to do. Rotten parents are one thing, but guys misusing the parent-child relations to force a girl to stay against her will are disgusting.

Many girls are extremely submissive towards their parents and would literally do everything for mama or papa, especially at this young age where they still feel indebted to their parents and need to "give back milk".

I think people should not use the family as a means to put the girl under pressure. She is already pressured hard enoguh to keep the money flowing.

Deal with the girls directly, give the money to her!

If she leaves, up to her!

[kerryk]

Hi 'manarak' … I would suspect there are as many victim as predator amongst the guys you have portrayed in your post, just like the girls that tell you there story.

It's very easy to look into a pretty girl's eyes, (with a few beers on board) and swallow all the bullshit that may come your way and then see some old fart as a predator.

Fact is, there's good and bad everywhere you look, not all old gits are bad….And not all angelic faced young Thai girls are telling you the truth.

Anyway……How do you know what a French kiss tastes like from anold boy or whether they can get it up?

Well, the question was not about the veracity of these stories, but about what is told.

The taste of a french kiss is not so much a matter of age as of chain smoking. I kissed heavy smokers a couple of times in my life and it was absolutely eeeeeeeeeeeek klong nam taste. And they hadn't been smoking for more than 5 or 6 years, mind you.

I also don't have a problem with senior citizens getting young girlfriends, much less with them screwing them. Pops also needs his pleasure!

But I got a problem with people who deal with the parents to get the girl, using the authority the parents have over their daughter to deprive her of her say in her choice of a customer/supporter/sugar daddy - the girl can't even lie to her parents about the customer when she can't take it anymore ("he die")... no, she has to go cry at her parents' and lose face in front of the whole family, the little sister who will have to pay herself for her motrorcycle and in front of the brother who had already waited for so long to get a second hand truck.

The amount of pressure put on the girl just isn't fair in that situation, she is totally trapped.

You are setting yourself up as a bit of a moral judge here. I think you can see that. Defining as it were some new commandments for us Farangs in Thailand to follow. I am not saying you are wrong. Perhaps you are the new Godhead of the Farang race living in Thailand.

In fairness though I think your commandments should be a bit more specific.

I get the repulsive thing I think. Starting at 45 guys who smoke and have erectile dysfunction are repulsive. Give me some insight here, if I am 39, smoke and can still get it up, I'm not repulsive? So I am not bound by this particular commandment if I am under 45 and what about if I can still get it up when I am over 45 or don't smoke? Can guys who don't smoke coerce women regardless of age?

It seems you have identified the female age as 22. But I just wanted to check. If I am over 45, smoke and have erectile dysfunction it is OK for me to coerce women of 23 years of age?

Assuming you will clarify these questions, thank you for your help in this matter.

ok, take out the age and other aspects like smoking, etc, sorry for that!

It wasn't the purpose of my post to single out the older guys (an even chain smokers, I ust happened to kiss a couple of heavily smoking girls who had done so for only 5 or 6 years and it was just eeeeeeeeek, so this left an impression on me).

I see now I made a mistake, because it distracts totally from the point I wanted to make:

My central point is: I think the right thing to do is to deal only with the girl, and not use her parents to coerce her into something she doesn't want.

I think paying the parents to apply psychological pressure on the girls is disgusting.

This topic is not about age or smoking, I see it clearly now.

The other aspects (chain-smoking, ED, age, drug use, etc.) are only factors that make such a coercion necessary to keep the girl...

I did the mistake of characterizing the guys acting that way, but I still think bribing the parents of the girls is a very low thing to do. Rotten parents are one thing, but guys misusing the parent-child relations to force a girl to stay against her will are disgusting.

Many girls are extremely submissive towards their parents and would literally do everything for mama or papa, especially at this young age where they still feel indebted to their parents and need to "give back milk".

I think people should not use the family as a means to put the girl under pressure. She is already pressured hard enoguh to keep the money flowing.

Deal with the girls directly, give the money to her!

If she leaves, up to her!

Thank you for answering. That does narrow it down a bit. I knew one woman in her 30's who's father had a cancer that needed a special kind of treatment that was not covered under the 30 baht health plan. I liked the old guy and asked the hospital which was 100 miles away from his home to bill me directly for his monthly treatments. Which they did. I would have given the lady the money except she was a bit of a flirt and had a number of Thai men who she spent a lot of money on. I will admit that the family influenced her decision to spend time with me. The old guy got better and I sent the lady back home. She still calls once in a while to say hi.

Not in every case but I am sure sometimes there are two sides to the story. In my experience money given to a bar girl rarely gets home or if it does it is a small percent of the total. Of course this is not the same as a woman met at a disco, mall or online.

[manarak]

Thank you for answering. That does narrow it down a bit. I knew one woman in her 30's who's father had a cancer that needed a special kind of treatment that was not covered under the 30 baht health plan. I liked the old guy and asked the hospital which was 100 miles away from his home to bill me directly for his monthly treatments. Which they did. I would have given the lady the money except she was a bit of a flirt and had a number of Thai men who she spent a lot of money on. I will admit that the family influenced her decision to spend time with me. The old guy got better and I sent the lady back home. She still calls once in a while to say hi.

Not in every case but I am sure sometimes there are two sides to the story. In my experience money given to a bar girl rarely gets home or if it does it is a small percent of the total. Of course this is not the same as a woman met at a disco, mall or online.

well, that's a totally different story on many levels!

[maccaroni man]

the sad truth is the parents are why most of the girls are in the bars. the parents say we need money go work and know it means go work in bar what other skills do they have? parenting skills is not a high point for many of the working girls parents.

[IanForbes]

Too many people try to over think it. Just smile and enjoy yourselves. Nobody is coercing anybody. The young gals are going to do whatever they want to do. Unless you know your way around the Thai only underworld the average farang is not going to be taking advantage of anybody.

[Bangkokhatter]

Seems to me that you've met this girl who's had a couple of older sponsors in the past and when she sees how much it disgusts you , she blames it all on mum and dad. She is gonna tell you what you want to hear. Its a girl thing and maybe you should lighten up a bit.