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The Bologna-made Monster 796 is 629k.

Be interesting to see how the Thai-produced 795 is priced. And the specs in comparison to the other.

Wicked.

Hope their factory is not flooded or else the Ducati you are buying are flooded bikes.

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Just saw this:

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2011/10/20/manufacturers/ducati/asia-only-2012-ducati-monster-795-unveiled-in-malaysia/

Nice looking scout, 87 hp at 8250 rpm, Brembo brakes, ABS coming later. I can't wait to hear the prize in Thailand, if 400k bath I might be interested, but a few but's: Is the cams belt driven and do they need changing every 2 years?? Valve mechanism also tricky, I been told.

Can it run on Gasohol??

If too complicated not something you want to put into the hands of a typical Thai mechanic huh.

As an ex Harley owner I am used to very robust engines, and the valves never needs adjustment, a service is basically an oil/filter change and you are good to go again.

Miss the V-twin engine fell, fed up with the wife's Fino :D and HD's still too expensive here for what you pay/get.

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Official Thailand launch date: December 1st, 2011

From Ducati website:

Thailand

1ST DECEMBER 2011

Location: Bangkok Motorcycle Show - IMPACT Arena

Time: from 10 AM to 10 PM

Contact: Prapaporn - [email protected]

Of course it will run on Gasohol... 2nd hand HDs from Japan are only 300-400,000 and in pretty good shape. Without plates though...

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Price confirmed:

399,990

A bit steep for the ABS-less version, but OK. Can't blame them with God knows how many preorders...

As Nickymaster mentioned in the factory thread, they're now only doing bikes without ABS so they can better satisfy demand. Works, too, as I am definitely not thinking about buying one now.

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Price confirmed:

399,990

A bit steep for the ABS-less version, but OK. Can't blame them with God knows how many preorders...

As Nickymaster mentioned in the factory thread, they're now only doing bikes without ABS so they can better satisfy demand. Works, too, as I am definitely not thinking about buying one now.

Agree, and 400,000bht for 87hp...paying for the name springs to mind, ABS is also a must for me too..Mind you the z1000 isn`t any better, no ABS either and 600,000bht..

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This is actually tremendous news. Certainly more major players offering bikes to the Thailand cannot be a bad thing.

Don't get me wrong, I am super excited about it too. Compared to any import bike it's still a fantastic deal.

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I will wait until they have ABS, and if not then I will live without it

If they want to keep the price point low, I wonder why they are not offering ABS as an option? Having had it on the last 2 bikes, I would not buy another new bike without it.

The technology is there so offer it at a premium if necessary, but do not compromise safety and performance for bean counting

As an aside, to warm up Mrs Hoghead to the idea of yet another bike, I mentioned last night that Ducati where making bikes in Thailand and at 1/2 the price of imported bikes. Her first comment was that the current Owners of imported Ducs would be pissed that the marked value had been undercut.

Make mine fly yellow

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I will wait until they have ABS, and if not then I will live without it

If they want to keep the price point low, I wonder why they are not offering ABS as an option? Having had it on the last 2 bikes, I would not buy another new bike without it.

The technology is there so offer it at a premium if necessary, but do not compromise safety and performance for bean counting

As an aside, to warm up Mrs Hoghead to the idea of yet another bike, I mentioned last night that Ducati where making bikes in Thailand and at 1/2 the price of imported bikes. Her first comment was that the current Owners of imported Ducs would be pissed that the marked value had been undercut.

Make mine fly yellow

abs from bosch/magneti marelli as on the italian ducatis would need to be imported, thus expensive. perhaps they are trying out a denso/nissin thai made system which should not retail at more than 15-20k baht. but not available at the moment due to flooding

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That is great news, when i first read the title of this thread i had my doubts about the bike coming in at a reasonable price as i thought the bike would just be assembled here and not manufactured here to meet the regulations Thailand requires to lower taxes etc.

But I am genuinely surprised, if only i had another 120,000 baht, i might take my deposit back for the 2012 Ninja 650 and buy this little beauty.

I hope more of their bikes come in at reasonable prices within the next 2-3 years and i might chop the 650 in for one, however i doubt the Ducati i really want will ever be available here with out the dreaded import taxes and registration fees etc etc....

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Well they're going to move more and more models here; I have heard the Hypermotard mentioned which would make sense as it has the same engine as the monster. YUM!!

I have also heard the Diavel will be made here, but there was no time attached to that info, could be next year, could be in 2 years, 3 years, who knows.

In any case it's all rumors and things can change at the last minute, as the ABS episode shows. ABS was on the official spec sheet at the grand unveiling of the Monster 795. Sometime not too long after that it was silently pulled, erased from the site as if it had never been there. As to why - could be anything; technical; legal; who knows.

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Hypermotard would be right up my street as a second bike, second to a sports bike.

I nearly bought a KTM 625 SMC back in old Blighty, I'd love a hypermotard and i hope Ducati set a trend for other manufactures too.

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Price confirmed:

399,990

A bit steep for the ABS-less version, but OK. Can't blame them with God knows how many preorders...

As Nickymaster mentioned in the factory thread, they're now only doing bikes without ABS so they can better satisfy demand. Works, too, as I am definitely not thinking about buying one now.

If that price is right then sales of the Triumph Street Triple range is going to suffer for sure in Thailand. The base model is 600,000+ and at 399,990 even I'd be tempted by the 795. Although I just reluctantly sold my Street Triple maybe the timing was right?

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Price confirmed:

399,990

A bit steep for the ABS-less version, but OK. Can't blame them with God knows how many preorders...

As Nickymaster mentioned in the factory thread, they're now only doing bikes without ABS so they can better satisfy demand. Works, too, as I am definitely not thinking about buying one now.

If that price is right then sales of the Triumph Street Triple range is going to suffer for sure in Thailand. The base model is 600,000+ and at 399,990 even I'd be tempted by the 795. Although I just reluctantly sold my Street Triple maybe the timing was right?

I think the Street triple is leaps ahead of the 795, just my opinion...each to their own.

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Price confirmed:

399,990

A bit steep for the ABS-less version, but OK. Can't blame them with God knows how many preorders...

As Nickymaster mentioned in the factory thread, they're now only doing bikes without ABS so they can better satisfy demand. Works, too, as I am definitely not thinking about buying one now.

If that price is right then sales of the Triumph Street Triple range is going to suffer for sure in Thailand. The base model is 600,000+ and at 399,990 even I'd be tempted by the 795. Although I just reluctantly sold my Street Triple maybe the timing was right?

I think the Street triple is leaps ahead of the 795, just my opinion...each to their own.

Yes it's leaps ahead by 200,000+ baht. Ilike themboth.

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It's impossible that Ducati SpA's strategy for SE Asia / Asia revolves around only this one model. More likely the Monster 795 is breaking-in the factory & crew for more models to come, maybe soon. A Supersport and Hypermotard with the same engine and bolt-on bits should be relatively easy to evolve into for production. A Desmoquatro production line would be another kettle of bits, however.

Ducati Thailand: make mine a 795 Hypermotard, and soon please!

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That is great news, when i first read the title of this thread i had my doubts about the bike coming in at a reasonable price as i thought the bike would just be assembled here and not manufactured here to meet the regulations Thailand requires to lower taxes etc.

But I am genuinely surprised, if only i had another 120,000 baht, i might take my deposit back for the 2012 Ninja 650 and buy this little beauty.

I hope more of their bikes come in at reasonable prices within the next 2-3 years and i might chop the 650 in for one, however i doubt the Ducati i really want will ever be available here with out the dreaded import taxes and registration fees etc etc....

Biggest annoyance are the roads that are perfect for big bikes that cannot be used by big bikes. Tollways etc.

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I think this is one ...... ?

Seen at Chattuchak at the weekend.

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Someone has there priorities right in that picture; new Ducati 4-9xx,xxx B, 500 B Helmet, 100 B backpack but likely a giveaway, and no money left over for socks.

A Hypermotard can bring about that kinda of thinking

The more I think about it a Hypermotard 795 would be fantastic, and at 400,000 B something it's getting justifiable. Starting to change my thinking, ie that a boat should never cost more than 10% your net worth and a motorcycle shouldn't cost more than 10% of your yearly income. Gotta get the priorities straightened out (meaning I need another bike).

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Anybody know if Ducatti has a financing arm? Terms/conditions? Looks like a nice bike but 400k in a single shot isn't easy to swing.

Ducatithailand.com has financing for all their bikes except the 795. Probably too new, I imagine they'll offer financing soon.

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Anybody know if Ducatti has a financing arm? Terms/conditions? Looks like a nice bike but 400k in a single shot isn't easy to swing.

Ducatithailand.com has financing for all their bikes except the 795. Probably too new, I imagine they'll offer financing soon.

Krungsri, aka GE capital, does bikes, 30-40% down, and 5-6% interest if not sponsored by supplier, on 1-4 years

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I'd had Dukes in UK for over 35 years before coming to Thailand, everything from '64 250 to 888, and always done my own maintenance (including valve shimming) which has resulted in many years and probably hundreds of thousands of miles of trouble-free Ducati riding.

My heart tells me one of these bikes would be a good deal at 400k, rather than any of Ducati's sportsbikes here in Thailand, but my head says it's not really a practical proposition for my circumstances. From the experiences of UK Ducati-owning acquaintances, I've always found Dukes to be pretty fragile in the engine department unless very well maintained but maybe they're "tougher" now than they used to be. I certainly wouldn't trust the bike to any Thai mechanic I've ever come across. I trusted few enough of the dealerships in UK - the specialists were a different matter - and they were certainly far more competent than here. We're unlikely ever to see a Ducati dealership opening in my neck of the woods when, even to visit a (fairly common) Kwaka big bike dealer, I have to travel to Korat or Udon and I suppose a similar trip would be needed just to change tyres. Even if doing something fairly straightforward like valve shimming, it'd be necessary to hold a stock of opening & closing shims (not cheap) or be willing to wait for the correct shims to be delivered from wherever and slowly building-up a shim stock that way.

Apart from the "single-digit" roads, which I try to avoid, the vast majority of my local roads are just not suited to the sort of riding a Duke encourages. Since gasohol is so widespread here I'd expect a locally-produced bike to run well on E10, certainly, and preferably E20 even though I think I'd stick to regular petrol, which probably isn't a bad idea on any bike but how long will that be available?

So heart says "Yes!" but head says "No!!!!!!!" and the head wins. But it's EXCELLENT news that Dukes are finally here at a sensible price even if they're for others, not me. I know those who buy will have a great time on the bikes :) :).

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