He is just a twit, for only a twit could come up with such a pulled-by-the-hair, ludicrous, utterly surreal accusation that anyone (whatever 'colour' or political agenda they may follow) has "caused" the flooding.

Or have I missed something? Is he actually claiming that "certain parties" may have deliberately opened the flood walls, deliberately withheld emergency assistance and rescue operations? Even that thought would be insane.

It's high time for this man to be committed to a closed psychiatric institution, really.

It's really long past that time.

Yes, he is essentially implying the Dems are ruining the country to bring down Yingluck.

But if you consider what his side was willing to do to bring down Abhisit, how hard is it to imagine he figures his enemies think just like he does? They had no problem causing deaths and destruction to the country to win, and blame them on their enemies, why wouldn't he think anyone else would be nicer than that.

It is the thoughts of a deranged amoral mind.

Edited October 21, 201114 yr by animatic

Jatuporn should go see his mum. A very good hospital there for people with his problem.

It is quite hard to figure what the basis of Jatuporn's allegation is. Following the change of government there has been no change of control at the Agriculture Ministry that controls the Irrigation Department. It has remained in the hands of Chart Thai Pattana, as it was under the Abhisit government. The absolute control wielded by CTP there is adequately illustrated by the ease with which de facto CTP leader Banharn has been able to get the Irrigation Dept to flood other provinces in order to keep Suphan Buri dry and maintain this situation in the face of resounding public criticism.

Jatuporn has come up with something more convincing if he wants to be believed by anyone apart from the morons who sit around all day in front of red shirt TV.

Edited October 21, 201114 yr by Arkady

why do such claims rate a mention? Repeating lies only gives them credence. The MP should shush.

These lies are being broadcasted by red-shirt Radio Stations. You go tell them to stop

Deputy Spokesperson for the Democrat Party Atthaporn Polabutr reacted to remarks made by Pheu Thai Party list MP and key red-shirt leader Jatuporn Phromphan that the current flood crisis is actually caused by a group of people who want to overthrow the government.

hmm . . . Act Of God ?

Personally, I don't class this as an "Act of God" although I'm sure insurance companies will categorize it that way so they can deny claims.

I consider much of the situation in Thailand MAN MADE.

What goes around comes around.

For a country that claims to believe in Karma, it's amazing they thought they could escape the consequences of their actions.

You reap what you sow.

However, there is another element to it.

I am unable to see through the smoke and mirrors and water and disinformation and misinformation and lies to suggest who is benefiting from this mess aka "A GROUP OF PEOPLE".

There is a level of incompetence and mismanagement but I am fairly convinced there is a large measure of intentional management made to appear as MISmanagement or uncontrollable forces of nature.

Just like New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina, the situation was used by some to sucker punch their enemies.

The hurricane was an Act of God but the disaster that resulted was man made and man aggravated and intensified.

There were pre-event human actions and post-event human actions that resulted in the final mess.

For some interest groups, consolidating power was a higher priority than helping the affected people.

It wasn't a complete success but was highly effective.

why do such claims rate a mention? Repeating lies only gives them credence. The MP should shush.

So that we can all break out into hysterical laughter?:cheesy:

Deputy Spokesperson for the Democrat Party Atthaporn Polabutr reacted to remarks made by Pheu Thai Party list MP and key red-shirt leader Jatuporn Phromphan that the current flood crisis is actually caused by a group of people who want to overthrow the government.

hmm . . . Act Of God ?

Personally, I don't class this as an "Act of God" although I'm sure insurance companies will categorize it that way so they can deny claims.

I consider much of the situation in Thailand MAN MADE.

What goes around comes around.

For a country that claims to believe in Karma, it's amazing they thought they could escape the consequences of their actions.

You reap what you sow.

However, there is another element to it.

I am unable to see through the smoke and mirrors and water and disinformation and misinformation and lies to suggest who is benefiting from this mess aka "A GROUP OF PEOPLE".

There is a level of incompetence and mismanagement but I am fairly convinced there is a large measure of intentional management made to appear as MISmanagement or uncontrollable forces of nature.

Just like New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina, the situation was used by some to sucker punch their enemies.

The hurricane was an Act of God but the disaster that resulted was man made and man aggravated and intensified.

There were pre-event human actions and post-event human actions that resulted in the final mess.

For some interest groups, consolidating power was a higher priority than helping the affected people.

It wasn't a complete success but was highly effective.

What Jatuporn is claiming isn't mismanagement. What he's claiming is that there is a conspiracy to overthrow the government by PURPOSELY letting the floods happen. While this is probably the most ridiculous thing he's ever spewed, let's not forget that his audience aren't the smartest of people around. Also, when people have lost their homes or are about to lose their homes to the floods, they want someone to blame and when you have some moron on radio claiming it was done by the Dems on purpose, you can bet they'll blame the Dems no matter how ridiculous it sounds.

Deputy Spokesperson for the Democrat Party Atthaporn Polabutr reacted to remarks made by Pheu Thai Party list MP and key red-shirt leader Jatuporn Phromphan that the current flood crisis is actually caused by a group of people who want to overthrow the government.

hmm . . . Act Of God ?

Personally, I don't class this as an "Act of God" although I'm sure insurance companies will categorize it that way so they can deny claims.

I consider much of the situation in Thailand MAN MADE.

What goes around comes around.

For a country that claims to believe in Karma, it's amazing they thought they could escape the consequences of their actions.

You reap what you sow.

However, there is another element to it.

I am unable to see through the smoke and mirrors and water and disinformation and misinformation and lies to suggest who is benefiting from this mess aka "A GROUP OF PEOPLE".

There is a level of incompetence and mismanagement but I am fairly convinced there is a large measure of intentional management made to appear as MISmanagement or uncontrollable forces of nature.

Just like New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina, the situation was used by some to sucker punch their enemies.

The hurricane was an Act of God but the disaster that resulted was man made and man aggravated and intensified.

There were pre-event human actions and post-event human actions that resulted in the final mess.

For some interest groups, consolidating power was a higher priority than helping the affected people.

It wasn't a complete success but was highly effective.

What Jatuporn is claiming isn't mismanagement. What he's claiming is that there is a conspiracy to overthrow the government by PURPOSELY letting the floods happen. While this is probably the most ridiculous thing he's ever spewed, let's not forget that his audience aren't the smartest of people around. Also, when people have lost their homes or are about to lose their homes to the floods, they want someone to blame and when you have some moron on radio claiming it was done by the Dems on purpose, you can bet they'll blame the Dems no matter how ridiculous it sounds.

That's the problem indeed. Now waiting for the fool to suggest this never would have happened if only k. Thaksin had been here to protect us

Jutuporn is probably the only person in Thailand who could and does walk under a snake without touching its belly.

Jatuporn knows that the rural folks will believe anything he says, especially if he keeps saying it and the Red Shirt radio stations keep repeating it. If he said that Thaksin was the reincarnation of Lord Buddha, they'd probably believe him. No wonder governments like to keep the rural people simple and uneducated.

Jatuporn knows that the rural folks will believe anything he says, especially if he keeps saying it and the Red Shirt radio stations keep repeating it. If he said that Thaksin was the reincarnation of Lord Buddha, they'd probably believe him. No wonder governments like to keep the rural people simple and uneducated.

Lets hope those "educated" people who were taken in by the "poor vs elite" rhetoric can now see thru the charade. Maybe a no-confidence motion will appear soon after the disaster is over .. if the coup doesn't happen first.

hmm . . . Act Of God ?

Personally, I don't class this as an "Act of God" although I'm sure insurance companies will categorize it that way so they can deny claims.

I consider much of the situation in Thailand MAN MADE.

What goes around comes around.

For a country that claims to believe in Karma, it's amazing they thought they could escape the consequences of their actions.

You reap what you sow.

However, there is another element to it.

I am unable to see through the smoke and mirrors and water and disinformation and misinformation and lies to suggest who is benefiting from this mess aka "A GROUP OF PEOPLE".

There is a level of incompetence and mismanagement but I am fairly convinced there is a large measure of intentional management made to appear as MISmanagement or uncontrollable forces of nature.

Just like New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina, the situation was used by some to sucker punch their enemies.

The hurricane was an Act of God but the disaster that resulted was man made and man aggravated and intensified.

There were pre-event human actions and post-event human actions that resulted in the final mess.

For some interest groups, consolidating power was a higher priority than helping the affected people.

It wasn't a complete success but was highly effective.

What Jatuporn is claiming isn't mismanagement. What he's claiming is that there is a conspiracy to overthrow the government by PURPOSELY letting the floods happen. While this is probably the most ridiculous thing he's ever spewed, let's not forget that his audience aren't the smartest of people around. Also, when people have lost their homes or are about to lose their homes to the floods, they want someone to blame and when you have some moron on radio claiming it was done by the Dems on purpose, you can bet they'll blame the Dems no matter how ridiculous it sounds.

That's the problem indeed. Now waiting for the fool to suggest this never would have happened if only k. Thaksin had been here to protect us

Even it had happened when he was here, with everyone being rich they would have better financial resources to deal with it.

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Dismiss jatuporn what else can you do.

Both Jatuporn and the democrats are playing wild poltical games at inappropriate times. But neither will stop in case the other side doest too. The blame and popularity game is too important it seems even at a time of tragedy for all.

I don't agree. Jutaporn is a born troublemaker and I am sure he has a political agenda. Whereas the Democrats are merely pointing out that he is talking through his rear end. However having read your many posts on TV I am aware where your thoughts lie. If you had a balanced perspective you would have condemned Jutporn's comments outright, instead of which you attempt to distract his rubbish by apportioning blame to both sides. Yes it is a tragedy and Jutaporn is attempting to mis-lead the Thai populace. If the Democrats don't counter the such stupid comments, who will?

. While this is probably the most ridiculous thing he's ever spewed, let's not forget that his audience aren't the smartest of people around.

And the system designed to keep them that way, unfortunately..

The sooner this guy is locked up and the keys thrown away the better.

this guy is barking mad and a danger to the country and its stability

. While this is probably the most ridiculous thing he's ever spewed, let's not forget that his audience aren't the smartest of people around.

And the system designed to keep them that way, unfortunately..

sadly very true

Even it had happened when he (k taksin) was here, with everyone being rich they would have better financial resources to deal with it.

this is a joke right

Edited October 21, 201114 yr by yumidesign

If the Democrats don't counter the such stupid comments, who will?

No one will counter them. Which is exactly what they want. One arm of the propaganda machine smears the sh*t while the other arm chastises you for wiping it off your face

Edited October 21, 201114 yr by DP25

I said something the other day in order to take the piss out of somebody.

What a tool!

yeah, they imported all the rainmakers from africa they could get and put them to work to flood thailand!!! what else could it be?? what a fricking i.iot!!!!

Both Jatuporn and the democrats are playing wild poltical games at inappropriate times. But neither will stop in case the other side doest too. The blame and popularity game is too important it seems even at a time of tragedy for all.

The Democrats are not playing political games to show up the incompetance of the Governments handling of the flood crisis.

A Ridiculous claim by Jutaporn,that severely shows his lack of intellect! and the parties also.

Both Jatuporn and the democrats are playing wild poltical games at inappropriate times. But neither will stop in case the other side doest too. The blame and popularity game is too important it seems even at a time of tragedy for all.

I don't agree. Jutaporn is a born troublemaker and I am sure he has a political agenda. Whereas the Democrats are merely pointing out that he is talking through his rear end. However having read your many posts on TV I am aware where your thoughts lie. If you had a balanced perspective you would have condemned Jutporn's comments outright, instead of which you attempt to distract his rubbish by apportioning blame to both sides. Yes it is a tragedy and Jutaporn is attempting to mis-lead the Thai populace. If the Democrats don't counter the such stupid comments, who will?

He is just a twit, for only a twit could come up with such a pulled-by-the-hair, ludicrous, utterly surreal accusation that anyone (whatever 'colour' or political agenda they may follow) has "caused" the flooding.

Or have I missed something? Is he actually claiming that "certain parties" may have deliberately opened the flood walls, deliberately withheld emergency assistance and rescue operations? Even that thought would be insane.

It's high time for this man to be committed to a closed psychiatric institution, really.

It's really long past that time.

Yes, he is essentially implying the Dems are ruining the country to bring down Yingluck.

But if you consider what his side was willing to do to bring down Abhisit, how hard is it to imagine he figures his enemies think just like he does? They had no problem causing deaths and destruction to the country to win, and blame them on their enemies, why wouldn't he think anyone else would be nicer than that.

It is the thoughts of a deranged amoral mind.

It could also be said that the the Army last April/May caused deaths and blamed them on their enemies (though actually in this case it was the democrats who claimed that the army had shot nobody therefore the red/blacks must have done it).

Did you claim then that these were the thoughts of (a) deranged amoral mind/s?

That's the problem indeed. Now waiting for the fool to suggest this never would have happened if only k. Thaksin had been here to protect us

Don't even have to look to Jatuporn for those sorts of ridiculous sentiments to be heard.

Actually there is a case in this emergency for a strong minded manager with huge political clout to take overall control.Is there such a person? There might be but he lives in Dubai.

OK, not quite as daft as saying it would never have happened, but daft enough, when considering bird flu and other disasters during his tenure, to suggest that things would be better right now.

He is just a twit, for only a twit could come up with such a pulled-by-the-hair, ludicrous, utterly surreal accusation that anyone (whatever 'colour' or political agenda they may follow) has "caused" the flooding.

Or have I missed something? Is he actually claiming that "certain parties" may have deliberately opened the flood walls, deliberately withheld emergency assistance and rescue operations? Even that thought would be insane.

It's high time for this man to be committed to a closed psychiatric institution, really.

It's really long past that time.

Yes, he is essentially implying the Dems are ruining the country to bring down Yingluck.

But if you consider what his side was willing to do to bring down Abhisit, how hard is it to imagine he figures his enemies think just like he does? They had no problem causing deaths and destruction to the country to win, and blame them on their enemies, why wouldn't he think anyone else would be nicer than that.

It is the thoughts of a deranged amoral mind.

It could also be said that the the Army last April/May caused deaths and blamed them on their enemies (though actually in this case it was the democrats who claimed that the army had shot nobody therefore the red/blacks must have done it).

Did you claim then that these were the thoughts of (a) deranged amoral mind/s?

Please try engage your brain cell before posting. And read back on the history, dont try and rewrite it. That is the Thai way and does not work here.

Both Jatuporn and the democrats are playing wild poltical games at inappropriate times. But neither will stop in case the other side doest too. The blame and popularity game is too important it seems even at a time of tragedy for all.

I don't agree. Jutaporn is a born troublemaker and I am sure he has a political agenda. Whereas the Democrats are merely pointing out that he is talking through his rear end. However having read your many posts on TV I am aware where your thoughts lie. If you had a balanced perspective you would have condemned Jutporn's comments outright, instead of which you attempt to distract his rubbish by apportioning blame to both sides. Yes it is a tragedy and Jutaporn is attempting to mis-lead the Thai populace. If the Democrats don't counter the such stupid comments, who will?

Condemning outright is something some people seem to struggle with.

For every mis-step or blunder that Yingluck makes, hammered's only response seems to be, let the people decide at the next election. Unless somebody here is advocating that the people aren't allowed to decide, i don't see the point in continually repeating this, besides it acting as a neat and convenient trick to avoid ever having to say something negative about this government.

I think we are all well aware of the selective amnesia that phiphidon suffers from regarding his icons, the Red Shirts and their terrorist activities .

Crazy Ahmahinnejad from Iran also blamed Europe for keeping all the rain for the Europeans themselves and not letting any rail fall down in Iran, hence creating a desert. But Jatuporn has beaten him this time in nonsense talk! Could he be awarded some sort of first-price for this ridiculous statement? Guiness book of records?

I have never seen such bad water management and flood mitigation action from a Government as this time. Totally incapable and unprofessional, especially the way the Government tries to hide its incompetency by blaming the Democrats for this natural disaster! Red shirt terrorist thoughts...