webfact Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Thailand ranks 80th in 2011 Corruption Perception Index BANGKOK, Dec 1 -- Thailand ranks 80th among 183 countries worldwide listed in the 2011 Corruption Perception Index (CPI) released today by Transparency International, two steps lower from last year’s ranking, according to Transparency Thailand Secretary-General Juree Vichit-Vadakan. Thailand placed 78th among 178 countries last year. According to the latest Transparency International Corruption Perception Index (CPI) released on Thursday, Thailand received 3.4 points on a scale of 0-10, and ranked 80th among 183 countries on the list. Ten points means a country has a low corruption level, while zero equates to a high level of corruption. Apart from its global position, Thailand was ranked 10th among 26 Asian countries, with Singapore getting the highest transparency score at 9.2 out of a possible 10. Dr Juree said that this year Thailand shared the same rank as Columbia, El Salvador, Greece, Morocco and Peru. Most countries on the list scored less than 50 per cent, Dr Juree said, noting that only 49 countries received more than 5 points. New Zealand achieved 9.5 points and ranked first as the least corrupt globally, followed by Denmark and Finland at 9.4 points, while Somalia and North Korea jointly rated the most corrupt in the world with a 1.0 point score. CPI is a composite index, a combination of polls, drawing on corruption-related data from experts and business surveys carried out by a variety of reputable independent institutions. Dr Juree said that the CPI index as a tool encourages governments and the public worldwide to realise the severe impact of corruption, both domestic and international, in order to jointly tackle the problem. She said the awareness of corruption in Thailand is growing, and that many sectors have taken part in battling the problem. She also praised Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) for launching its “Growing Good” programme. This initiative aims to empower Thai youths in kindergarten to grade three by teaching them social values and ethics to fight corruption more lastingly over the longer term. (MCOT online news) -- TNA 2011-12-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbandung Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I have always wondered why everyone thinks Thailand is so corrupt. Now I now why. I work in Papua New Guinea who ranked 154, with Zimbabwe, and Laos. Thais are a law abiding lot by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x5david Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 No, their just more adept at paying off pollsters to get a better rating.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) Good to see that the BMA are teaching the kids to fight corruption in the kindergarden. There's money to be made as a milk monitor............. Edited December 1, 2011 by phiphidon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 What was the price for staying below 100? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberkommando Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Thais are a law abiding lot by comparison. Nah, they're just better at hiding it these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unanimosity Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) Every comment above receives today. Entrusting teachers that slack off in the classroom all day in order to extort baht from parents to teach students after school is the old fox guarding the hen house adage all over again. Edited December 1, 2011 by unanimosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I have always wondered why everyone thinks Thailand is so corrupt. Now I now why. I work in Papua New Guinea who ranked 154, with Zimbabwe, and Laos. Thais are a law abiding lot by comparison. Good to hear from some one who is capable of thinking. Most of the expats that respond in the negative are short on that commodity. They can not imagine Thailand having any thing good . Thailand has come up a little ways on the list but I do not believe that the problem has lessened just that some other countries have improved in their fight against corruption.:jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Inching their way, gained 2 more points this year. By mathematics Thailand will be the most corrupt circus on July 1st, 2063 - well, by then I will no longer be around hence I just carry on greasing the palms of the sons and daughters of Siam then ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzaaa Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Did they bribe the person who did the survey? :-) I thought thailand would be ranked higher.. Just take a look at the guys in their 'ymca village people' outfit in the street... and how often they get bribed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silsburyhill Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I have always wondered why everyone thinks Thailand is so corrupt. Now I now why. I work in Papua New Guinea who ranked 154, with Zimbabwe, and Laos. Thais are a law abiding lot by comparison. Hardly countries to measure how good Thailand's doing ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf99 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) What was the price for staying below 100? A lot less than if you want to be in the top 10........ If any one had asked me which South American country was the most corrupt I might have said Columbia but to find out that Thailand has the same score is disturbing. Edited December 1, 2011 by lonewolf99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphlsasser Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I lived in El Salvador and Thailand is worse IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 CPI Thailand's ranking shows decrease in corruption levels Corruption in Thailand appears to have decreased a little this year, with the nation ranking 80th among 183 countries on the 2011 Corruption Perception Index (CPI). Last year, Thailand was placed the 78th among 178 countries. The ranking was released on Thursday by Transparency International, said Transparency Thailand Secretary General Juree Vichit-Vadakan. The country received 3.4 points on a scale of 0-10, and ranked 80th among 183 countries on the list. Ten points means a country has a low corruption level, while zero equates to a high level of corruption. Apart from its global position, Thailand was ranked 10th among 26 Asian countries, with Singapore getting the highest transparency score at 9.2 out of a possible 10. Juree said that this year Thailand shared the same rank as Columbia, El Salvador, Greece, Morocco and Peru. Most countries on the list scored less than 50 per cent, Juree said. Only 49 countries received more than five points. New Zealand achieved 9.5 points and ranked first as the least corrupt globally, followed by Denmark and Finland at 9.4 points, while Somalia and North Korea jointly rated the most corrupt in the world with a 1.0 point score. CPI is a composite index, a combination of polls, drawing on corruption-related data from experts and business surveys carried out by a variety of reputable independent institutions. Juree said that the CPI index as a tool encourages governments and the public worldwide to realise the severe impact of corruption, both domestic and international, in order to jointly tackle the problem. She said that awareness of corruption in Thailand is growing, and that many sectors have taken part in battling the problem. She also praised Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) for launching its "Growing Good" programme. This initiative aims to empower Thai youths in kindergarten to grade three by teaching them social values and ethics to fight corruption over the longer term. -- The Nation 2011-12-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaikahuna Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Doesn't mean squat...its only perception not reality. Whether or not Thailand is really becoming less corrupt would depend on a lot of factors that no one will want to talk about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priceless Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 CPI Thailand's ranking shows decrease in corruption levels Corruption in Thailand appears to have decreased a little this year, with the nation ranking 80th among 183 countries on the 2011 Corruption Perception Index (CPI). Last year, Thailand was placed the 78th among 178 countries. The ranking was released on Thursday by Transparency International, said Transparency Thailand Secretary General Juree Vichit-Vadakan. The country received 3.4 points on a scale of 0-10, and ranked 80th among 183 countries on the list. Ten points means a country has a low corruption level, while zero equates to a high level of corruption. Apart from its global position, Thailand was ranked 10th among 26 Asian countries, with Singapore getting the highest transparency score at 9.2 out of a possible 10. Juree said that this year Thailand shared the same rank as Columbia, El Salvador, Greece, Morocco and Peru. Most countries on the list scored less than 50 per cent, Juree said. Only 49 countries received more than five points. New Zealand achieved 9.5 points and ranked first as the least corrupt globally, followed by Denmark and Finland at 9.4 points, while Somalia and North Korea jointly rated the most corrupt in the world with a 1.0 point score. CPI is a composite index, a combination of polls, drawing on corruption-related data from experts and business surveys carried out by a variety of reputable independent institutions. Juree said that the CPI index as a tool encourages governments and the public worldwide to realise the severe impact of corruption, both domestic and international, in order to jointly tackle the problem. She said that awareness of corruption in Thailand is growing, and that many sectors have taken part in battling the problem. She also praised Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) for launching its "Growing Good" programme. This initiative aims to empower Thai youths in kindergarten to grade three by teaching them social values and ethics to fight corruption over the longer term. -- The Nation 2011-12-01 Another brilliant analysis by The Nation. Thailand this year ranked 80th and scored 3.4 on a scale of 0-10 with 10 being best. Last year it ranked 78th and scored 3.5. I'll admit that the change is probably not statistically significant, but if anything Thai corruption has increased, not decreased. On the other hand, that analysis demands an understanding of decimals, which is probably to much to ask / Priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Doesn't mean squat...its only perception not reality. Whether or not Thailand is really becoming less corrupt would depend on a lot of factors that no one will want to talk about... The global graphic you can see at http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2011/results/ gives an interesting perspective on how these numbers stack up in developing vs developed countries. From the Transparency website: " Perceptions are used because corruption is to a great extent a hidden activity that is difficult to measure. Over time, perceptions have proved to be a reliable estimate of corruption." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 You Have it all ahead of you Thailand , see if you can get to 9 out of 10 . NZ only has that high score , co's as we all know bro, they are all in Aussie land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 You Have it all ahead of you Thailand , see if you can get to 9 out of 10 . NZ only has that high score , co's as we all know bro, they are all in Aussie land. Actually, they send all the corrupt criminals to Australia, thus increasing the average score of both countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackout Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 on this page http://blog.transparency.org/2010/10/26/cpi2010_temperatures_up/ "Nagaraju" interestingly talk about Switzerland Hi, I am from India. TI president Hugutte said in a statement “There should be no where to hide for the corrupt or their money”. Keeping this as base I request TI to put some nations like Switzerland, who are helping the corrupt to save their corrupt money, at the bottom of the these rankings. These nations helping directly, I don’t want to use the word “indirectly”. The banks from these nations, make very strange rules they will not ask for the sources of money, and not reveal the corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Thais are a law abiding lot by comparison. Nah, they're just better at hiding it these days. i think the improvement came because the new government is so honest and upstanding 55555555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mijan24 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) You Have it all ahead of you Thailand , see if you can get to 9 out of 10 . NZ only has that high score , co's as we all know bro, they are all in Aussie land. Actually, they send all the corrupt criminals to Australia, thus increasing the average score of both countries. Very strict entry rules No Record NO ENTRY no mucking about Unlike Thailand where it seems if you have a record in the making they want you to come home for the wedding,. Sorry I finished to early you don't have to be a corrupt criminal to enter Australia we take all types did not want Australia to be branded as discriminating. Edited December 1, 2011 by mijan24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerver Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 What was the price for staying below 100? No too many years ago when the list held 80 countries Thailand was near the bottom. Add more banana Republics like Papua New Guinea, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Laos and Thailand lands up in the middle of the row. Who paid for this? Good question. Who pays for maintaining Transparency International (TI) - and for that matter its sister Honesty International (HI) - with offices around the world, “leaders” driving MB cars, smoking Havanas? When you realistically analyze this you come to the conclusion it is political type claptrap. Please name one thing that this TI analyzes or HI analyzes does that makes the slightest improvement in the lives of the people around the world. Be realistic, what goes on in Thailand also goes on in other countries around the world, some more, some less, but none is squeaky clean anymore because that has gone by the wayside at the conclusion of WW I when the slide down became apparent and now a hundred years later it is thundering down the slope with no slowing it down, let alone stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I dont believe it!!!!!!!!!! Said a man from Dubai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 You Have it all ahead of you Thailand , see if you can get to 9 out of 10 . NZ only has that high score , co's as we all know bro, they are all in Aussie land. Actually, they send all the corrupt criminals to Australia, thus increasing the average score of both countries. Very strict entry rules No Record NO ENTRY no mucking about Unlike Thailand where it seems if you have a record in the making they want you to come home for the wedding,. Sorry I finished to early you don't have to be a corrupt criminal to enter Australia we take all types did not want Australia to be branded as discriminating. Can't miss the opportunity to drag out one of the old ones; Australian Airport Immigration Officer to British Tourist - "Do you have any criminal convictions?" British Tourist - "Why, Is it still a requirement?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Without corruption, things would grind to a halt since its part of the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givenall Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I have always wondered why everyone thinks Thailand is so corrupt. Now I now why. I work in Papua New Guinea who ranked 154, with Zimbabwe, and Laos. Thais are a law abiding lot by comparison. Let me give few examples; 1. The police is always there to extort money fromthe drivers but never there to enforce traffic laws 2. Officials always lie to make the point and alwaystell the story in a very positive ways. 3. All projects are substandard and only disinters likeflood make it obvious, and even then no one is responsible for the failures 4. You can pay money so the law enforcement peopleto look away and not enforce the low 5. Politicians have the inside for projects andthey always use the information for close friends and family to get rich Etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbandung Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I have always wondered why everyone thinks Thailand is so corrupt. Now I now why. I work in Papua New Guinea who ranked 154, with Zimbabwe, and Laos. Thais are a law abiding lot by comparison. Let me give few examples; 1. The police is always there to extort money fromthe drivers but never there to enforce traffic laws 2. Officials always lie to make the point and alwaystell the story in a very positive ways. 3. All projects are substandard and only disinters likeflood make it obvious, and even then no one is responsible for the failures 4. You can pay money so the law enforcement peopleto look away and not enforce the low 5. Politicians have the inside for projects andthey always use the information for close friends and family to get rich Etc. etc. I'm not sure how much experience you've had with "developing" or "third world" countries. Apparently Thailand is now technically described as "newly industrialised". Comparisons are odious as they say. What I'm saying is that versus its contemporaries Thailand isn't doing too badly. I've always been a "glass half full" kind of guy though. I know it isn't all that fashionable here on TV, but I like Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virtualtraveller Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 CPI Thailand's ranking shows decrease in corruption levels Corruption in Thailand appears to have decreased a little this year, with the nation ranking 80th among 183 countries on the 2011 Corruption Perception Index (CPI). Last year, Thailand was placed the 78th among 178 countries. The ranking was released on Thursday by Transparency International, said Transparency Thailand Secretary General Juree Vichit-Vadakan. The country received 3.4 points on a scale of 0-10, and ranked 80th among 183 countries on the list. Ten points means a country has a low corruption level, while zero equates to a high level of corruption. Apart from its global position, Thailand was ranked 10th among 26 Asian countries, with Singapore getting the highest transparency score at 9.2 out of a possible 10. Juree said that this year Thailand shared the same rank as Columbia, El Salvador, Greece, Morocco and Peru. Most countries on the list scored less than 50 per cent, Juree said. Only 49 countries received more than five points. New Zealand achieved 9.5 points and ranked first as the least corrupt globally, followed by Denmark and Finland at 9.4 points, while Somalia and North Korea jointly rated the most corrupt in the world with a 1.0 point score. CPI is a composite index, a combination of polls, drawing on corruption-related data from experts and business surveys carried out by a variety of reputable independent institutions. Juree said that the CPI index as a tool encourages governments and the public worldwide to realise the severe impact of corruption, both domestic and international, in order to jointly tackle the problem. She said that awareness of corruption in Thailand is growing, and that many sectors have taken part in battling the problem. She also praised Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) for launching its "Growing Good" programme. This initiative aims to empower Thai youths in kindergarten to grade three by teaching them social values and ethics to fight corruption over the longer term. -- The Nation 2011-12-01 Another brilliant analysis by The Nation. Thailand this year ranked 80th and scored 3.4 on a scale of 0-10 with 10 being best. Last year it ranked 78th and scored 3.5. I'll admit that the change is probably not statistically significant, but if anything Thai corruption has increased, not decreased. On the other hand, that analysis demands an understanding of decimals, which is probably to much to ask / Priceless Couldn't agree more, on first glance we've slipped from 78 to 80, but that's because another 5 countries were added to the list but I'm guessing they were 'off the radar' ones all of whom entered the list in the bottom third, it doesn't hide the fact that Thailand is well into the bottom half despite have the 25th largest economy in the world and being one of the developing world's more successful countries. Nowhere in this article does it indicate that the corruption index itself has improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJohnson Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Doesn't mean squat...its only perception not reality. Whether or not Thailand is really becoming less corrupt would depend on a lot of factors that no one will want to talk about... I think you will find the exact opposite. These surveys are done using strict criteria and are about fact not perception. How many of the sideline commentators here are using anything other than anecdotal evidence, personal experience and the 'circle jerk' phenomena that ipasses for informed debate. Sure there is corruption here, no doubt about it but probably not as endemic as many believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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