Is This 'Real" Monk?

[sunnyhor]

First I don't live in Thailand, I am still a Buddhist and visit Thai's temple when ever I visit Thailand. Donations, Charities are part of them. And I don't really know so much about Monks in Thailand as you see my earlier comment, I presumed Monks are one of the most " Holy ".

So many forumers evidence they smoke, the have bf/gf, they drink Whiskey and gamble. This isn't "real" Monk. Some also stated anyone can be a Monk to escape jail term bla bla bla............... I guess I do not know anything about Thai Monks.

Good deeds and charity will be continue but in future it will not to Monks because I do not know who is "Good " and who is " no good " . The next time I will switch all this to Orphange ( which I just did months ago ) , the aged home, the Blind etc!!!!

When people can input those critics they know, there sure to be a reason. They will not just simply say a Monk drink Whiskey for nothing, they know "someone" who did this, which is very very wrong!!!

After seeing so many comments, I suddenly feel that I am very ignorant. So this is what you call Monk in Thailand. I'm lost of words, and in future, I will skip all those good deeds, charity etc . I did all this regularly whenever I visit Thailand....................So sad to hear the truth!

so you are going to give up your beliefs, cease doing good deeds and turn your back on charity based on the strength of a series of photos of unknown provenance and the notion that not all monks are entirely devout? What does that say about your own sincerity or intelligence?

sounds like you too are a poseur little different from our renegade novice

[Thongkorn]

As long as he has the Correct paper work there is no problem, maybe he was a bad person before he became a Monk and is doing Contrition now. welcome to Thailand,

[Halfcast]

Dad.. Is that you?

[sunnyhor]

Correct paper work? Being a Monk must have a paper too?

As long as he has the Correct paper work there is no problem, maybe he was a bad person before he became a Monk and is doing Contrition now. welcome to Thailand,

[phuturatica]

When I was in Nakhon Sawan being a Buddhist Nun in a monastery for a few days (I was paying my respects) I was quite surprised at the monks that were at the Monastery. Most of them smoked, had playstations, laptops, music hifi's, ate out at restaurants and spent most of the day chilling amongst each other having a laugh. One of them even had a bottle of Sangsom in his room. Not really strict at all.

Also I know someone who was a monk for 12 years and then went on to be a hitman and then spent 7 years in jail for murder... He's still a very religious guy after spending time in jail though... But it does make you wonder.

I guess there are very committed Monks and those who like the idea of it and feel better in themselves for doing it.

[slapout]

Is this first hand knowledge or are you passing along rumors? Just a question as you mention you were here as a nun.

[zzaa09]

Is this first hand knowledge or are you passing along rumors? Just a question as you mention you were here as a nun.

And only for a few days....[??]

Who here referes to a wat as a monastery?

[F1fanatic]

After seeing so many comments, I suddenly feel that I am very ignorant. So this is what you call Monk in Thailand. I'm lost of words, and in future, I will skip all those good deeds, charity etc . I did all this regularly whenever I visit Thailand....................So sad to hear the truth!

so you are going to give up your beliefs, cease doing good deeds and turn your back on charity based on the strength of a series of photos of unknown provenance and the notion that not all monks are entirely devout? What does that say about your own sincerity or intelligence?

sounds like you too are a poseur little different from our renegade novice

I agree. He has to live here a while to see how Buddhism is practiced before coming to any judgment.

Only then can he make up his own mind.

[phuturatica]

Is this first hand knowledge or are you passing along rumors? Just a question as you mention you were here as a nun.

And only for a few days....[??]

Who here referes to a wat as a monastery?

First hand knowledge as I saw them. The Monks live in living quarters by the Wat but the Nuns live in quarters much further away from the Temple and as my boyfriend has informed me, it's called a Monastery. Maybe his translation from Thai to English isn't accurate but that's what he called it anyway.

I went to visit a Monk in Nakhon Sawan and then I stayed in the Monastery for a few days but I had to stay with the Nun's as men and women are separate so I had to conform and abide by Buddhist Nun rules. The monks weren't strict at all but most of the Nun's were.

I only stayed there for 3 days.

Edited January 26, 2012 by phuturatica

[nocturn]

i had never before remarked the similarities between ginger and saffron. thanks.

[mataus101]

oh my, humans are not perfect, what a revelation.

why do you think they are in the wat.

[marstons]

they certaily dont care where there money comes from they are down walking street in Pattaya in there horred early morning begginf or money off the prostitutes, same in soi 7 and 8. quite a few girls nor just turn their backs on them. talk about living off the earnings of imoral income. no time or respect for them at all, many have just packed up and left wifes and families to fend for themselves, as lying around in a Wat is easier than working at feeding ones family.

[mataus101]

^{marstons, i hope you have never been with a bar girl after saying that.}

[Trembly]

There was a kiddy fiddling monk in Chiang Rai who went to America before anyone had the chance to investigate and disrobe him. Word has it that he is doing rather well for himself there as a pillar of the buddhist community on the west coast (or something like that). I queried as to why the buddhist clergy never caught up with him as there are large number of kids who bear testimony to his abuse, but no one could give me an answer. Maybe the parents are too poor / ignorant / brow beaten to take it up with the clergy.

[Trembly]

There's monks and then there's a whole load of other people who spend most of their time in temples pretending to be monks. After that you've got folk who can see it and folk who can't, folk who go along with it and folk who don't.

[pauljones]

I know a monk that is into (insider) stock trading, fleets of Mercedes Benz's, real estate, gold, scamming, etc..

[endure]

It's probably a good idea if you try and be as good as you can rather than criticising people whose stories you don't know. 'Let him who is without sin etc...'

[zzaa09]

I know a monk that is into (insider) stock trading, fleets of Mercedes Benz's, real estate, gold, scamming, etc..

Big business, ya know....

Certainly when you align yourself with the right power base.

[veryruay]

I know a monk that is into (insider) stock trading, fleets of Mercedes Benz's, real estate, gold, scamming, etc..

Ohhhhh really? I do not mind being a monk too.

[Thongkorn]

There are Monks who have Big money, they go to be Monks because it looks good on there CV later on, some go for contrition, because they have done some thing bad, they have Phones smoke and some drink beer., it depends on them.

[Fookhaht]

What if the photo is a joke and the guy is holding a squirt gun? All this spilled cyber-ink over nothing.?

C'mon give the poor monk the benefit of the doubt!

[zzaa09]

What if the photo is a joke and the guy is holding a squirt gun? All this spilled cyber-ink over nothing.?

C'mon give the poor monk the benefit of the doubt!

Yes. Poor gangsta monks.

First instinct should suggest it's a ruse.

Leg-pulling, Thai style.

[wintermute]

What if the photo is a joke and the guy is holding a squirt gun? All this spilled cyber-ink over nothing.?

C'mon give the poor monk the benefit of the doubt!

Yes. Poor gangsta monks.

First instinct should suggest it's a ruse.

Leg-pulling, Thai style.

From a social standpoint joking about monks isn't something that's done in this way at least. Anything that tampers with their religious or deeply held cultural aspects tend to be no go areas especially if mixed with black humor about vice.

[StreetCowboy]

What if the photo is a joke and the guy is holding a squirt gun? All this spilled cyber-ink over nothing.?

C'mon give the poor monk the benefit of the doubt!

Yes. Poor gangsta monks.

First instinct should suggest it's a ruse.

Leg-pulling, Thai style.

From a social standpoint joking about monks isn't something that's done in this way at least. Anything that tampers with their religious or deeply held cultural aspects tend to be no go areas especially if mixed with black humor about vice.

Is it OK to joke about neds who dress up as monks? Monk imposters?

If not, which other criminals should we not joke about?

SC

EDIT: I went to a party at 25 Cromwell Street. "Fred", I said, "do you have any beer?"

"There's boddies in the kitchen and tennents under the stair" (possibly mis-spelt)

Edited January 28, 2012 by StreetCowboy

[wintermute]

What if the photo is a joke and the guy is holding a squirt gun? All this spilled cyber-ink over nothing.?

C'mon give the poor monk the benefit of the doubt!

Yes. Poor gangsta monks.

First instinct should suggest it's a ruse.

Leg-pulling, Thai style.

From a social standpoint joking about monks isn't something that's done in this way at least. Anything that tampers with their religious or deeply held cultural aspects tend to be no go areas especially if mixed with black humor about vice.

Is it OK to joke about neds who dress up as monks? Monk imposters?

If not, which other criminals should we not joke about?

SC

EDIT: I went to a party at 25 Cromwell Street. "Fred", I said, "do you have any beer?"

"There's boddies in the kitchen and tennents under the stair" (possibly mis-spelt)

I'm not talking about expats but what Thais usually think about this matter. I couldn't give a dam_n about organized religion or PC attitudes. The poster I was replying to said that it might be Thais pulling a practical joke concerning monks. I said that was highly unlikely because Thais are very uptight about their culture/religion.

Edited January 29, 2012 by wintermute

[Fookhaht]

From a social standpoint joking about monks isn't something that's done in this way at least. Anything that tampers with their religious or deeply held cultural aspects tend to be no go areas especially if mixed with black humor about vice.

You're behind the times...Thailand is changing.

[sunnyhor]

LOL....yes, Thailand is changing!!!!!!!!!! Or wearing yellow robes is just an occupation? An uniform? So sad .........

From a social standpoint joking about monks isn't something that's done in this way at least. Anything that tampers with their religious or deeply held cultural aspects tend to be no go areas especially if mixed with black humor about vice.

You're behind the times...Thailand is changing.