MoonRiverOasis Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 The new 2012 Mazda BT-50 was officially launched in Thailand earler today. Model Grades: S Grade it the entry-level of the range, and is fairly sparse when it comes to equipment/spec: Standard power, 125HP/320Nm 2.2L diesel 6-speed manual Manual wind-up windows 3x 12V power outlets 2-speaker sound system with CD Player, MP3 support and AUX-in 16" steel wheels with 215/70R16 tires The V Grade adds to the S: High power, 150HP/375Nm 2.2L diesel Electric side mirrors Electric Windows Remote Central Locking 2-line LCD multi-function display USB support for the sound system and 4 speakers Chrome door handles 16" alloy wheels with 215/70R16 tires The V ABS Grade adds to the V Grade: ABS with EBD Upgrade to 6-speakers Bluetooth Upgraded multi-function display Sunglass holder Driver's chair with lumbar support Foglamps Chrome rear bumper Chrome grille Side mirrors with indicators The Hi-Racer grade adds to the V: Limited slip differential Higher ride height 17" wheels with 265/65R16 tires The Hi-Racer ABS grade adds to the Hi-Racer: ABS with EBD Upgrade to 6-speakers Bluetooth Upgraded multi-function display Sunglass holder Driver's chair with lumbar support Foglamps Chrome rear bumper Chrome grille Side mirrors with indicators The Hi-Racer 6AT adds to the Hi-Racer ABS: 6-speed automatic Automatic headlamps (dusk sensing) Automatic windshiel wipers (rain sensing) Cruise Control Voice Control stereo system Reversing sensors The R Grade adds to the Hi-Racer ABS: 3.2L 200HP/470Nm diesel The R 6AT Grade adds to the High-Racer 6AT: 3.2L 200HP/470Nm diesel Traction, stability, hill descent and trailer sway control Prices: Freestyle 2.2L 125PS/330Nm S 6MT 2WD 589000 Freestyle 2.2L 150PS/375Nm V 6MT 2WD 639000 Freestyle 2.2L 150PS/375Nm V ABS 6MT 2WD 683000 Freestyle 2.2L 150PS/375Nm Hi-Racer 6MT 2WD 659000 Freestyle 2.2L 150PS/375Nm Hi-Racer ABS 6MT 2WD 715000 Freestyle 3.2L 200PS/470Nm R ABS 6MT 4WD 814000 Doublecab 2.2L 150PS/375Nm S 6MT 2WD 629000 Doublecab 2.2L 150PS/375Nm V 6MT 2WD 724000 Doublecab 2.2L 150PS/375Nm V ABS 6MT 2WD 764000 Doublecab 2.2L 150PS/375Nm V ABS CRUISE LEATHER 6AT 2WD 874000 Doublecab 3.2L 200PS/470Nm R ABS DSC 6MT 4WD 943000 Doublecab 3.2L 200PS/470Nm R ABS DSC CRUISE LEATHER 6AT 4WD 988000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) That's one ugly front grill. I'm trying to be polite & refrain from expletives... Edited January 24, 2012 by MESmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 That front will look very good creating a bow-wave when entering a flooded piece of road! Besides that, the new Ranger, the new D-max and the new Vigo all look more or lesss the same in the front area, so this is at least different! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungabunga Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) Yes, for many its the front end thats a bit offputting. I've been told that the chassis is more car-like and smoother than the Ranger, I thought they would have been the same. http://youtu.be/_8-PQDEhUc4 Edited January 24, 2012 by Ungabunga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Makes one wonder how they will price the 3.2 wildtrak - 100K more might sway many to the mazda, if they can accept the looks. I don't mid the front so much but hate those rear lights - on a dark coloured truck I'd get a set of smoked lights to stop them from being so prominent. Pity there's no cooler box for my beer, so I'd probably still take the ranger:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Well if my understanding is correct, The Doublecab 2.2L 150PS/375Nm V ABS CRUISE LEATHER 6AT 2WD 874000 is the same, except slight styling differences, as the the 2.2 Wildtrak 2WD 869,000. That would suggest that the 3.2 Wildtrak 4x4 should be cheaper then the Doublecab 3.2L 200PS/470Nm R ABS DSC CRUISE LEATHER 6AT 4WD 988000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juehoe Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 That front will look very good creating a bow-wave when entering a flooded piece of road! Besides that, the new Ranger, the new D-max and the new Vigo all look more or lesss the same in the front area, so this is at least different! I have some love-hate feelings with the the new BT-50 design. I also like thats it is quite different to the competitors. The new Ford Ranger looks very good. Both are technical the same. The BT-50 should have a smoother back axle. I will decide when comparing interior design, accessories and price. We already own the Mazda 3 and also looking for the future CX-5. I am very satisfied with the Mazda brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcat Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 ...so no AT doublecab model without leather ?..if not,that makes an XLT the winner...but I do like the Mazda interior design and this is what we most see,from the inside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) All the pictures at the release day; http://www.motortriv...azda-BT-50.html After looking at all the interior pictures I'm not sold on the whole "BT50 has a better interior". The pictures of the leather look more natural but other than that I don't think it's winning by miles! Edited January 25, 2012 by stefan2519 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Makes one wonder how they will price the 3.2 wildtrak - 100K more might sway many to the mazda, if they can accept the looks. I don't mid the front so much but hate those rear lights - on a dark coloured truck I'd get a set of smoked lights to stop them from being so prominent. Pity there's no cooler box for my beer, so I'd probably still take the ranger:) Ditto on the taillights. That said, remember when the '73 Chevy came out with wraparound tailights that looked so odd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Well if my understanding is correct, The Doublecab 2.2L 150PS/375Nm V ABS CRUISE LEATHER 6AT 2WD 874000 is the same, except slight styling differences, as the the 2.2 Wildtrak 2WD 869,000. That would suggest that the 3.2 Wildtrak 4x4 should be cheaper then the Doublecab 3.2L 200PS/470Nm R ABS DSC CRUISE LEATHER 6AT 4WD 988000 The 3.2L Wildtrak has a number of spec upgrades over the top-model BT-50: 18" alloy wheels Reversing Camera Drink Cooler 6 Airbags Wildtrak Roof bars Wildtrak Rollbar Wildtrak Box rails Electric driver's chair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 And it doesn't have tail lights that came off of George Jetson's car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkatsu Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 and the Bedliner... But my choice is the Mazda... I don't like all that rails... and the Ford is 100000 more. I saw on Mazda 4 door on the Streets today... It looks really fresh to all the others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkatsu Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Also under 1million for the 3.2 is good for the first time buyer. My wife never had a car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guns Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Is is going to have massive depreciation? I guess the same question goes for the Ford. That's the main thing that would put me off the Ford/Mazda when I replace my 4x4 D-Max next year. As someone who replaces their cars every 3-4 years resale is a major factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluestu Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Glad I decided on the Ranger XLT 6AT when I did instead of waiting to see what Mazda offered as I'd have been disappointed! There is no Automatic option like Ford offer with their XLT, only their top model which is 874,000baht. And not sure what the fuss about the interior is all about either, very similar to the Ranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Just a small thing, but the gear shift seems unnaturally off-set to left, to the passenger side. Is it like this in the Ranger? Edited January 25, 2012 by rixalex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Is is going to have massive depreciation? I guess the same question goes for the Ford. That's the main thing that would put me off the Ford/Mazda when I replace my 4x4 D-Max next year. As someone who replaces their cars every 3-4 years resale is a major factor. Only time will ultimately tell, but those in the business of projecting depreciation are all pegging the BT-50 to take the biggest resale hit. Not very surpising given it's somehwat polarising design. Just a small thing, but the gear shift seems unnaturally off-set to left, to the passenger side. Is it like this in the Ranger? The stick in the Ranger is in dead center. Edited January 25, 2012 by MoonRiverOasis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 That's the manual. Perhaps kbb was refering to the auto stick? Probbaly - I though the same right after hitting the submit button, heh For me, stick = MT - that's my excuse anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 That's the manual. Perhaps kbb was refering to the auto stick? Probbaly - I though the same right after hitting the submit button, heh For me, stick = MT - that's my excuse anyway Speaking of sticks and such, my only experience of manual in this sort of vehicle was a Prerunner and i found it awful. Not so much the gear change but the clutch. It was so high and the travel in it so long, i had to move my leg and bend it up for every gear change. Terrible. Is this usual for this sort of vehicle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Anyways, back to topic.. You do have to go see the BT-50 in the metal - it really does work nicely in the flesh, so long as you see it in the right color. Just like the Colorado, it looks cheap and nasty in white, but in darker colors (metallic red especially IMHO) it really does start looking good. The rear taillamps are the biggest let-down though - they make the rear look narrow and anemic - then again, that might also be a reason you prefer it I guess Also, IMHO, the interior is much nicer than the Ranger. The BT-50 dash looks like something lifted out fo a mid-range car, and the center audio stack looks clean, integrated and not too busy. The Ranger dash is still nice, but it's "rugged" looks and chunky buttons just don't look as "classy" as the BT-50. It's worth your time to investigate - just don't take your Mrs/GF with you, otherwise it'll all go straight into the BT-50's favor... Edited January 25, 2012 by MoonRiverOasis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) That's the manual. Perhaps kbb was refering to the auto stick? Probbaly - I though the same right after hitting the submit button, heh For me, stick = MT - that's my excuse anyway Speaking of sticks and such, my only experience of manual in this sort of vehicle was a Prerunner and i found it awful. Not so much the gear change but the clutch. It was so high and the travel in it so long, i had to move my leg and bend it up for every gear change. Terrible. Is this usual for this sort of vehicle? Yep - long clutch pedal is pretty standard on pickups - they have a much heavier clutch than passenger cars, so a longer pedal is used for better leverage/less effort. I see no reason not to buy AT, if looking at these new 6-speeders, given that they only come with a 20-30K price premium Edited January 25, 2012 by MoonRiverOasis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 That's the manual. Perhaps kbb was refering to the auto stick? Probbaly - I though the same right after hitting the submit button, heh For me, stick = MT - that's my excuse anyway Speaking of sticks and such, my only experience of manual in this sort of vehicle was a Prerunner and i found it awful. Not so much the gear change but the clutch. It was so high and the travel in it so long, i had to move my leg and bend it up for every gear change. Terrible. Is this usual for this sort of vehicle? Yep - long clutch pedal is pretty standard on pickups - they have a much heavier clutch than passenger cars, so a longer pedal is used for better leverage/less effort. I see no reason not to buy AT, if looking at these new 6-speeders, given that they only come with a 20-30K price premium Interesting. Thanks. Anyone who drives a manual regularly must have an odd walk, as their left leg must be double the size of their right with all that exercise! 20-30k sounds a complete bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 That's the manual. Perhaps kbb was refering to the auto stick? Probbaly - I though the same right after hitting the submit button, heh For me, stick = MT - that's my excuse anyway Speaking of sticks and such, my only experience of manual in this sort of vehicle was a Prerunner and i found it awful. Not so much the gear change but the clutch. It was so high and the travel in it so long, i had to move my leg and bend it up for every gear change. Terrible. Is this usual for this sort of vehicle? I'm not sure but every article I read prefer the auto over the manual - certainly much better than around bkk. Mind you the ranger could pull away in 3rd so no need for the first gear unladen:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) The AutoSpinn website has an image gallery from the launch party, with photos of most of the colors: http://www.autospinn...azda-bt-50-pro/ Edited January 25, 2012 by MoonRiverOasis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The AutoSpinn website has an image gallery from the launch party, with photos of most of the colors: http://www.autospinn...azda-bt-50-pro/ The AutoSpinn website has an image gallery from the launch party, with photos of most of the colors: http://www.autospinn...azda-bt-50-pro/ Forget the truck, the ladies are a good selling point for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The AutoSpinn website has an image gallery from the launch party, with photos of most of the colors: http://www.autospinn...azda-bt-50-pro/ The AutoSpinn website has an image gallery from the launch party, with photos of most of the colors: http://www.autospinn...azda-bt-50-pro/ Forget the truck, the ladies are a good selling point for me. Are two in the Casino thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juehoe Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 The 3.2L Wildtrak has a number of spec upgrades over the top-model BT-50: Reversing Camera 6 Airbags It really sad, that Mazda Thailand doesn't include these options - which are available in Australia...! The reversing camera is really very useful and for me a "must-have" for a top model in the pick-up market. The Australian BT-50 has a combo rear facing mirror which includes the camera image. Very cool! I also like the front facing cameras of the Isuzu models. Unfortunately non of the other manufactures has followed this path. I also miss the option of the side/curtain airbags. Thai customers seems not yet interested in passive safety. Mazda also removed this option in the new Mazda 3. The 2008 top model had 6 airbags. For me it will be a hard decision: I like the style and many features of the BT-50, but really missing the rear camera and the airbags. So what do do: BT-50 or the new Ranger...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naboo Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Rear view cameras are only for people too fat and lazy to look over their shoulder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I have the back-up camera on my D-Max and I thought it was silly when I got it, but you do kind of get used to it. I can remember when I thought AT, remote door-locks, air-con and power windows and paying somone to wash or service were all silly as well, but then, I've lived long enough and well enough that I am now fat and lazy. The XLT is avaiable in true red, but not the wildtrack, WTFIUWT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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