webfact Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Chuwit fingers 22 gambling dens - and corrupt cops - in police meeting The Nation BANGKOK: -- Metropolitan Police Commissioner LtGeneral Winai Thongsong yesterday ordered police to investigate the 22 gambling dens or footballbetting franchises that outspoken MP Chuwit Kamolvisit claimed had been operating in Bangkok City with police protection. Winai also thanked Chuwit for acting as the mirror for police, though he wished Chuwit would talk to him personally so he got clear information to make arrests, and vowed to punish the deninvolving police officers. He said he had ordered his deputies and Metropolitan Police Division 19 chiefs to check on their jurisdiction areas if there were gambling dens and punish any involved cops. Meanwhile, national police chief Pol General Priewpan Damapong assigned Police InspectorGeneral Pol General Sathaporn Laothong to investigate the allegations about franchise dens and allegations that police generals with initial "Jor" and "Or" backed the dens. Priewpan also assigned Winai and acting provincial police region 1 chief Khamronwit Thupkrachang to inspect the Greater Bangkok gambling dens and report back to him before Monday. Winai also had Metropolitan Police Division 1 Commander Police Major General Wichai Sangprapai gather information on the gambling dens from Chuwit at Parliament yesterday. After giving the information to Wichai, Chuwit said he was confident in Priewpan who he hoped would get stricter. Because he was also confident in Wichai, he had given him all the evidence and was ready to offer additional information. Wichai, however, declined to comment whether the Sai Mai superintendent would be transferred over an alleged gambling den that used topless women to entertain gamblers. Metropolitan Police deputy commander LtGeneral Saroj Phromcharoen, who oversees crime suppression, said the city police would look into Chuwit's claim about the 22 franchise dens as well as the topless gambling den. Saroj himself would also check on the Bang Kapi and Hau Mark areas. Regarding Chuwit's claim that a police general with initials "Jor" and "Or" backed the franchise dens, he said the police were ready to probe. On Wednesday, Chuwit told a Parliament meeting about the 22 gambling den franchises controlled,he said,by two major networks. The "Sor Sommai" network oversaw eight dens (Bang Kapi Market; Happy Land 1; Lat Phrao 71; Chokchai 4; Talad Number 1 Bang Na; Talad Tai Rangsit Market; Talad Si Mum Muang Market; and Ramkhamhaeng 24). The "Hia Teu Mangkorn Thong" network oversaw 14 gambling dens (Minburi's Lion Building in Soi Lalaisap; Khubon's 8th kilometre marker; Khubon Soi 1; Romklao Housing Estate; near Beung Kum District Office; Soi Paholyothin 52; Payak Housing Estate in Ramkhamhaeng; Soi Lat Phrao 112; Lady Zone Pub in Chokchai 4 Soi 71; Khlong Toei; a place called Phoenix at Navankhon; Bang Phli; Wat Phrayakrai police station's jurisdiction; and a market opposite Major Cineplex Nonthaburi. Chuwit also said eight other major dens such as Tao Poon, Loy Fa and Bang Na continued to operate and paid Bt2 million a day for police protection, while the franchise dens paid crooked police up to Bt1 million a day. -- The Nation 2012-01-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 More helpful work from MP-Chuwit ! Perhaps Deputy-PM Chalerm should seek his assistance, in his many initiatives, to seek-out and fight crime, wherever it occurs ! Or perhaps not, as Chuwit appears to actually achieve something, which would never do ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Siripon Posted January 27, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2012 Surely this can't be true, for only a few weeks ago Mr Chalerm assured us all there were no more gambling dens operating in Bangkok. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Why does Wichai have a black ear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Siripon Posted January 27, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2012 Why does Wichai have a black ear? Perhaps he recently asked to search the belongings of a certain C7 customs official. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOODLOVER Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 He should stop fingering people and take action! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTamo Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 anyone got odds on how long he lasts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 He should stop fingering people and take action! Like what ? He's not in the government, and doesn't wish to be. His particular action is to publicise cases of corruption, and hope to prompt action by the relevant authorities (I suspect chiefly the BiBs), who wish he'd allow their scams to continue un-noticed ! OK it's only a small step in the right direction, but what's the alternative, call for Super-Chalerm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimay11 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 anyone got odds on how long he lasts? Good point. If I were him I would think seriously about getting a bullet proof car and a few body guards. He will finger the wrong general one of these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOODLOVER Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 He should stop fingering people and take action! Like what ? He's not in the government, and doesn't wish to be. His particular action is to publicise cases of corruption, and hope to prompt action by the relevant authorities (I suspect chiefly the BiBs), who wish he'd allow their scams to continue un-noticed ! OK it's only a small step in the right direction, but what's the alternative, call for Super-Chalerm ? Ill have you know that he is the founder of the very well respected" Love", party. He can bring to wield all the power that that position possesses. But yes, Super Chalerm would work too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbler Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 His fight against corrupt police, whatever his personal motivation, is the reason he's gaining popularity with voters upcountry. In the end, corruption in the police force can only be beaten by making the selection process to enter the police force a lot tougher, constant reviews of performance, monitoring and testing of skills, and better pay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundman Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Libelous post removed from view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) He should stop fingering people and take action! Like what ? He's not in the government, and doesn't wish to be. His particular action is to publicise cases of corruption, and hope to prompt action by the relevant authorities (I suspect chiefly the BiBs), who wish he'd allow their scams to continue un-noticed ! OK it's only a small step in the right direction, but what's the alternative, call for Super-Chalerm ? If he were inside the government, they could bring him under control and that's what chalerm etc., would probably prefer. In photo ops chalerm senior police etc., (with Chuwit) they are always smiling and saying lots of thank yous. His claims and evidence are seriously embarrassing to the police and the government, and you can be very sure they would seriously like to see him dead. There are many senior and mid ranking police officers who have very very strong, close to untouchable and highly corrupt powerbases, and even with Chuwit 's evidence it's very difficult for the main body of police to act against these powerful rogues. It should not be this way, but hey TIT, that;s the way it is. Much better that Chuwit works from his current position, outside and without controls. He does have a scaly past but if he can make an impact on corrupt police, corruption at large he should and will get a lot of support. Edited January 27, 2012 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 His fight against corrupt police, whatever his personal motivation, is the reason he's gaining popularity with voters upcountry. In the end, corruption in the police force can only be beaten by making the selection process to enter the police force a lot tougher, constant reviews of performance, monitoring and testing of skills, and better pay. "...by making the selection process to enter the police force a lot tougher......" It currently requires a significant transfer of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Surely this can't be true, for only a few weeks ago Mr Chalerm assured us all there were no more gambling dens operating in Bangkok. You're still believing what Chalerm is saying? Do you also believe in Santa Claus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necronx99 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 anyone got odds on how long he lasts? Good point. If I were him I would think seriously about getting a bullet proof car and a few body guards. He will finger the wrong general one of these days. He should avoid service station toilets, shopping centre carparks and, well pretty much everywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Has anyone else noticed there seems to be more police major/lt. generals than there are KFC and Swenson's outlets in Thailand!!! I guess I should check and find out who the police major or lt. general is for my soi... Always good to know your local law enforcement folks... Maybe he's the one riding on the motorcycle up and down the street stopping at the various businesses presumably to collect some.... information??? Edited January 27, 2012 by TallGuyJohninBKK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 "He said he had ordered his deputies and Metropolitan Police Division 19 chiefs to check on their jurisdiction areas if there were gambling dens and punish any involved cops." Yup, that's the right approach. Ask those who potentially reap the most benefit from the illegal goings-on in their areas to get tough on these operations. What Thailand sorely needs is an independent agency like the FBI, staffed by incorruptible officers that have all-encompassing powers to investigate and if necessary prosecute their peers. Problem is, where would one recruit such agents in a system that is rotten through and through? Perhaps even more importantly, how many of these agents would be able to maintain their integrity when bestowed with so much power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundman Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 What Thailand sorely needs is an independent agency like the FBI, staffed by incorruptible officers that have all-encompassing powers to investigate and if necessary prosecute their peers. Problem is, where would one recruit such agents in a system that is rotten through and through? Perhaps even more importantly, how many of these agents would be able to maintain their integrity when bestowed with so much power? Thailand already has the equivalent of the FBI. It's called the DSI (Department of Special Investigation), supposedly staffed by police with morals and integrity, Their pay is supposedly 5 - 10 times that of regular police. Unfortunately, from my observations, they are not powerful enough to deal with organised activities within the criminal community, and regular police, and only end up with enough cases hand-balled their way to make quotas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimay11 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 His fight against corrupt police, whatever his personal motivation, is the reason he's gaining popularity with voters upcountry. In the end, corruption in the police force can only be beaten by making the selection process to enter the police force a lot tougher, constant reviews of performance, monitoring and testing of skills, and better pay. I think his personal motivation is the untold millions in bribes he had to pay to the BIB when he ran his business. It's payback time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mijan24 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 It would be nice to see all BiB declare their assets particularly - bank accounts, property, and motor vehicles of course this would not capture the things in other names but it would be a start in the right direction. Punishment if corruption is proven - Dismissal, all assets siezed - publicly Named. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necronx99 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 It would be nice to see all BiB declare their assets particularly - bank accounts, property, and motor vehicles of course this would not capture the things in other names but it would be a start in the right direction. Punishment if corruption is proven - Dismissal, all assets siezed - publicly Named. They would be squeaky clean. But their servants might appear unusually wealthy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparebox2 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hold your fire. Chuwit is been sue by Sai Mai police chief right not for talking porky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siripon Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Surely this can't be true, for only a few weeks ago Mr Chalerm assured us all there were no more gambling dens operating in Bangkok. You're still believing what Chalerm is saying? Do you also believe in Santa Claus? I've met Santa Claus many times, in Central Pin Klao, Pata Department store, Big C Ratchadamri. he certainly gets around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 This will only result in raids of recently vacated gambling dens. It would have been better if they did not - telegraph (yes - this is an archaic term now) the news of an impending raid. Better to catch them red handed. tsk tsk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaeagle Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Rather a 'public' way to hand over a brown envelope, don't you think? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissanc Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 This is bad for Thaksin as it's his relation in charge of the police. Thaksin will be pulling his hair out with frustration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Much of Chuwits wealth is from illegal business albeit in the past. In many societies it would have been confiscated. Now he sits on an ivory tower built with that money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Ahhh the drumbeat of bad news regarding the police continues. They are in the gambling business up to their necks, and for them to pretend otherwise is absurd. What a wonderful place Thailand would be without the nest of vipers with the pretentious title of Royal Thai Police.....I suppose at this point they have lost so much face, there is nothing left to lose. So just keep on collecting the brown envelopes and the hatred of the Thai people.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ableguy Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 This man is tresding on dangerous ground am thinking maybe will end up in the klong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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