MB1 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I do wish we could a add a button to each thread to vote on closing a thread. So many threads go way off topic and become a total mess and should just be closed. And then you'd get a clique clicking away at people they dislike to get their threads closed Jay, it would never work, same as the red and green never worked, now we just have the like button and it's quite plain to see if your watching who's patting each other on the back all the time, but if it gives people pride in having more likes than others then good on em, me personally I don't give a shi*, if someone likes a post I made, so be it, if someone dislikes a post I made, same same, I post what I feel and try to be honest in what I post, not like some of the PC bull shi**ters who post on forums. Thing is though if you have a read at their posting history you can often find out what a BS merchant they really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I do wish we could a add a button to each thread to vote on closing a thread. So many threads go way off topic and become a total mess and should just be closed. Yes, tangents, off-topic discussion and light-heated banter can sometimes be a useful device for maintaining a meaningful discussion. So the this button has the potential to be very good. But actually there is already something like this: i.e. a PM to an admin to suggest or request closure. It would be interesting if the suggested voting closure system would be automatic above a certain number of votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB1 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) I do wish we could a add a button to each thread to vote on closing a thread. So many threads go way off topic and become a total mess and should just be closed. Yes, tangents, off-topic discussion and light-heated banter can sometimes be a useful device for maintaining a meaningful discussion. So the this button has the potential to be very good. But actually there is already something like this: i.e. a PM to an admin to suggest or request closure. It would be interesting if the suggested voting closure system would be automatic above a certain number of votes. They have an automatic one on POF forums, ten votes to close gets rid of a thread, 1 vote 1 person, a reason must be given for thread closure and abuse of the system means you lose your voting right. Me personally I'm against it, leave it to the mods or admin to decide. Edited July 13, 2012 by MB1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I do wish we could a add a button to each thread to vote on closing a thread. So many threads go way off topic and become a total mess and should just be closed. And then you'd get a clique clicking away at people they dislike to get their threads closed Jay, it would never work, same as the red and green never worked, now we just have the like button and it's quite plain to see if your watching who's patting each other on the back all the time, but if it gives people pride in having more likes than others then good on em, me personally I don't give a shi*, if someone likes a post I made, so be it, if someone dislikes a post I made, same same, I post what I feel and try to be honest in what I post, not like some of the PC bull shi**ters who post on forums. Thing is though if you have a read at their posting history you can often find out what a BS merchant they really are. I simply give likes for good posts, no matter the poster. Its a pointless system anyway other than offering appreciation to someone. How many someone has is an irrelevance mostly. The red/green thing just doesn't work on this board...in fact it encourages the juvenile tendencies of some posters. I'm happy to give a pat on the back...not to a clique though....only for each individual post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) I do wish we could a add a button to each thread to vote on closing a thread. So many threads go way off topic and become a total mess and should just be closed. And then you'd get a clique clicking away at people they dislike to get their threads closed Jay, it would never work, same as the red and green never worked, now we just have the like button and it's quite plain to see if your watching who's patting each other on the back all the time, but if it gives people pride in having more likes than others then good on em, me personally I don't give a shi*, if someone likes a post I made, so be it, if someone dislikes a post I made, same same, I post what I feel and try to be honest in what I post, not like some of the PC bull shi**ters who post on forums. Thing is though if you have a read at their posting history you can often find out what a BS merchant they really are. I simply give likes for good posts, no matter the poster. Its a pointless system anyway other than offering appreciation to someone. How many someone has is an irrelevance mostly. The red/green thing just doesn't work on this board...in fact it encourages the juvenile tendencies of some posters. I'm happy to give a pat on the back...not to a clique though....only for each individual post. My pat for you, with compliments! Edited July 13, 2012 by Morakot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tywais Posted July 13, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2012 Its a pointless system anyway other than offering appreciation to someone. I disagree in part. For example, I have several Youtube videos and the Likes for any given one gives me a feel for how well I produced it and its content which in turn allows me to refine and improve my next one. Not unlike here actually in that I can get an idea what posting style and content works better than other methods. Funny enough, sometimes I get several likes when I take a hard line on a topic. This tells me that members do appreciate an appropriate and measured 'crackdown' when needed. //edit - I admit I'm a bit stingy on giving Likes as I don't want to come across as appearing biased. But yes, I give them exclusively based on the post content. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblether Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I admit I'm a bit stingy on giving Likes Yes, we've noticed and they say we Scots are stingy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaddeus Posted July 13, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2012 I admit I'm a bit stingy on giving Likes Yes, we've noticed and they say we Scots are stingy I prefer the word frugal 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Its a pointless system anyway other than offering appreciation to someone. I disagree in part. For example, I have several Youtube videos and the Likes for any given one gives me a feel for how well I produced it and its content which in turn allows me to refine and improve my next one. Not unlike here actually in that I can get an idea what posting style and content works better than other methods. Funny enough, sometimes I get several likes when I take a hard line on a topic. This tells me that members do appreciate an appropriate and measured 'crackdown' when needed. //edit - I admit I'm a bit stingy on giving Likes as I don't want to come across as appearing biased. But yes, I give them exclusively based on the post content. You are right. My comment was a bit harsh I think. The best posts on the forum are those which are clearly written with either carefully considered opinion or written in very straight manner with conviction by the poster. In both cases they shine easily and are the most deserving of my like button. Edited July 13, 2012 by smokie36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I admit I'm a bit stingy on giving Likes Yes, we've noticed and they say we Scots are stingy I prefer the word frugal And that is the very reason to have a quota of likes, so people have to be frugal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I admit I'm a bit stingy on giving Likes Yes, we've noticed and they say we Scots are stingy I prefer the word frugal And that is the very reason to have a quota of likes, so people have to be frugal. way to bring it around...Well done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 "You have reached your quota of positive posts for the day." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 So the only thing that keeps you positive is the number of likes you get Smokie? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) So the only thing that keeps you positive is the number of likes you get Smokie? No no sbk...I am a very giving person.... Edit: I am asking for a larger quota to hand out to others....should have said "votes" not "posts" in the last post.... Edited July 15, 2012 by smokie36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 I admit I'm a bit stingy on giving Likes Yes, we've noticed and they say we Scots are stingy I prefer the word frugal yes i prefer frugal also...especially when I am called cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturn Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I too thought we should have more of a "karma" type of system with both positive and negative. I even started a thread suggesting it but was quickly told that it doesn't work here and the thread locked. Personally, if we had a system where trolls could be identified by a neg score then a filter could be implemented in our profiles to give us the choice to auto filter out posters that didn't have a score greater than xx amount. This would give an incentive for those to not post such rubbish as they would quickly find themselves playing to an empty room. what leads you to believe you would be safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I too thought we should have more of a "karma" type of system with both positive and negative. I even started a thread suggesting it but was quickly told that it doesn't work here and the thread locked. Personally, if we had a system where trolls could be identified by a neg score then a filter could be implemented in our profiles to give us the choice to auto filter out posters that didn't have a score greater than xx amount. This would give an incentive for those to not post such rubbish as they would quickly find themselves playing to an empty room. what leads you to believe you would be safe? Safe from what? Sent from my GT-I9100T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I too thought we should have more of a "karma" type of system with both positive and negative. I even started a thread suggesting it but was quickly told that it doesn't work here and the thread locked. Personally, if we had a system where trolls could be identified by a neg score then a filter could be implemented in our profiles to give us the choice to auto filter out posters that didn't have a score greater than xx amount. This would give an incentive for those to not post such rubbish as they would quickly find themselves playing to an empty room. what leads you to believe you would be safe? Safe from what? Sent from my GT-I9100T From mean spirited obsessive lunatics who decide to give you 20 dislikes a day ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I too thought we should have more of a "karma" type of system with both positive and negative. I even started a thread suggesting it but was quickly told that it doesn't work here and the thread locked. Personally, if we had a system where trolls could be identified by a neg score then a filter could be implemented in our profiles to give us the choice to auto filter out posters that didn't have a score greater than xx amount. This would give an incentive for those to not post such rubbish as they would quickly find themselves playing to an empty room. what leads you to believe you would be safe? Safe from what? Sent from my GT-I9100T From mean spirited obsessive lunatics who decide to give you 20 dislikes a day ... Ah well on other places I have seen this implemented that is not possible. You can't target 1 user with either repeated positive or negative karma. A message comes up and tells you to spread the karma around to other users before giving to this user again. This cuts down on this malicious activity. If course it's really all a matter of how it's implemented. I only brought it up since I saw it implemented in a positive way and thought it could be helpful here. Sent from my GT-I9100T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Ah well on other places I have seen this implemented that is not possible. You can't target 1 user with either repeated positive or negative karma. A message comes up and tells you to spread the karma around to other users before giving to this user again. This cuts down on this malicious activity. If course it's really all a matter of how it's implemented. I only brought it up since I saw it implemented in a positive way and thought it could be helpful here. Sent from my GT-I9100T Not here. When they had dislikes, there were no such limits.Sorry, but bringing back dislikes is an AWFUL idea. The likes thing is inane enough! How about using your own brain to filter out users you don't appreciate? I know you have one. Either don't read their stuff or put them on ignore manually rather than rely on some arbitrary number of negatives that you have no idea were justified or not. Similar to likes. Yes I have a lot of likes. So what? I doubt people read me (or not) based on my likes total, high or low. The likes system is also bogus and very open to abuse, for example people giving personal friends MASSIVE numbers of likes. (You know who you are ... ) All in all, the entire likes (or dislikes) system is massively JUVENILE. Edited July 16, 2012 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 Ah well on other places I have seen this implemented that is not possible. You can't target 1 user with either repeated positive or negative karma. A message comes up and tells you to spread the karma around to other users before giving to this user again. This cuts down on this malicious activity. If course it's really all a matter of how it's implemented. I only brought it up since I saw it implemented in a positive way and thought it could be helpful here. Sent from my GT-I9100T Not here. When they had dislikes, there were no such limits.Sorry, but bringing back dislikes is an AWFUL idea. The likes thing is inane enough! How about using your own brain to filter out users you don't don't? I know you have one. Either don't read their stuff or put them on ignore manually rather than rely on some arbitrary number of negatives that you have no idea were justified or not. Can't see any positives coming from a Dislike button 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I agree that the greatest feature here is the ignore. I had never used that before a few months ago. That is a much better way to get past the truly worthless posters. I only wish that the ignore feature worked correctly on the mobile apps. Sent from my GT-I9100T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 BTW, there is SOME value I see in the current like system here. That is at the POST level rather than the silly sum total level associated with posters. In other words, if a specific post receives enough likes to be pegged "Popular" I think that can be a useful feature to know that this CONTENT (rather than the poster) was liked by a number of people. Not necessarily better content in that, but it can be interesting to see the type of post that inspires a number of people to click Like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I guess I'm also coming from forums that are less bitching, moaning, arguing, and insults and more about sharing info, expertise, and support. Basically forums for learning. But here where it's mostly about opinions and attitudes the system of (dis)like would not be well suited. Sent from my GT-I9100T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I guess I'm also coming from forums that are less bitching, moaning, arguing, and insults and more about sharing info, expertise, and support. Basically forums for learning. But here where it's mostly about opinions and attitudes the system of (dis)like would not be well suited. Sent from my GT-I9100T By George, I think you've got it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I guess I'm also coming from forums that are less bitching, moaning, arguing, and insults and more about sharing info, expertise, and support. Basically forums for learning. But here where it's mostly about opinions and attitudes the system of (dis)like would not be well suited. Sent from my GT-I9100T By George, I think you've got it! Don't even get me started on George. I'll probably get banned. Sent from my GT-I9100T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) I'm confused ... where do the 'Likes' that we are referring to appear now? . Edited July 18, 2012 by David48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) I'm confused ... where do the 'Likes' that we are referring to appear now? . just down the bottom right hand side of the screen mate. I don't think mine is working properly. Could you give it a few clicks and see if it is okay? Cheers. Edited July 18, 2012 by BookMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I'm confused ... where do the 'Likes' that we are referring to appear now? . just down the bottom right hand side of the screen mate. I don't think mine is working properly. Could you give it a few clicks and see if it is okay? Cheers. I hit it a couple times for you.. seems to work just fine.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I'm confused ... where do the 'Likes' that we are referring to appear now? . just down the bottom right hand side of the screen mate. I don't think mine is working properly. Could you give it a few clicks and see if it is okay? Cheers. Unless it's your own post, than there is not like button for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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