Police Still In The Dark About SEJEAL Sticker Mystery: Bangkok Terror Plot

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Police confounded by sticker mystery

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Police are still in the dark about the mysterious stickers with the word SEJEAL found on a Bangkok road, suspected to have been pasted by Iranian nationals allegedly plotting a terror attack targeting Israeli interests or diplomats.

Police detectives are questioning more than 20 printing houses in Bangkok but none of them claimed to have printed them or were even aware of them. Investigators are now probing which companies have stocks or produce the kind of adhesive paper used to print the SEJEAL stickers, which contain Serilux at the back or a logo in a triangle with the word DURO in it.

The stickers, police sources said, could have been pasted on December 27 last year, judging from different security camera footages available. The images show a man, whose appearance was not clear, pasting the stickers at an unspecified location in Bangkok at night.

Police are obtaining footage before last October, and also from January and February this year, the sources added.

While police have not yet solved the case of the three blasts in Bangkok last week, there was a bomb scare yesterday at Ramkhamhaeng Soi 24, where a postal parcel was found near a postbox. A police Explosive Ordnance Disposal team found that the parcel contained a piece of sponge, wrapped in a piece of red artificial leather.

A senior commander, Pol MajGeneral Charn Wimolsee, said the incident had supposedly nothing to do with last week's explosions that unearthed a suspected terror plot.

Police found that a portable radio model that was made into three radio bombs, one of which was found at a house rented by the suspects, was made in China and had not been imported into Thailand by any trader or importer. A probe is underway to find out how they were in suspects' hands.

An Iranian suspect, Saeid Moradi, who lost his legs when a grenade he threw backfired on him, has reportedly regained consciousness but is still unable to speak. The Bangkok Remand Prison has turned down a police request to admit him under in its detention at Chulalongkorn Hospital as the prison's medical staff are not capable of caring for his postsurgery injuries.

-- The Nation 2012-02-25

[geriatrickid]

Police found that a portable radio model that was made into three radio bombs, one of which was found at a house rented by the suspects, was made in China and had not been imported into Thailand by any trader or importer.

How do they know that the ittems were not imported into Thailand by any trader or importer? The yaba that is sent into Thailand via Burma and Laos comes in via conventional methods, yet the authorities cannot or will not stop it. Thailand is awash with counterfeit merchandise made in china. It too arrives via conventional methods, yet the authorities cannot or will not stop it. Unknown to most people is that the prevalence of counterfeit drugs in Thailand is at a level to create a national health crisis and yet the authorities cannot or will not stop it.

And now we get the pronouncement that no trader or importer brought it in. Right.

I suppose the devices could have been brought in via diplomatic courier parcels which cannot be opened or searched. That is basically the suggestion being made by the Thai authorities.

[redroo]

What does the word writen roman text ,and isreali flag colour ,

" SEJEAL " mean ?

Edited February 25, 2012 by redroo

[pauljones]

I guess they planned this for some time, designed the bombs overseas & brought the radios with them.

The C4 was most likely bought locally on the black market.(military)

[haveaniceday]

BNE

[toenail]

I thought I read last week that some of the stickers were found in the "terrorists'" rented house that had blown up which to me meant it definately had a connection.

[IMA_FARANG]

What does word " sejeal" mean ?

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Supposedly the word derives from an Arabic word. There is a story that an army from Yemen was trying to kill Mohammed, and "SEJEAL" birds dropped large stones frlom the sky on that army's elephants...causing them to panic and stampede...and routing the army.

The rockets fired from Gaza at Isreal are called "sejeal stones" by the Palestinians who fire them.

Look it up on the internet, you will find a letter from an Isreali explaining this.

However, just be aware, that site is a very pro-Isreali site...so they definately do have a bias. Make your own judgements.

Added:

I posted something a couple days ago on this general topic.

I mentioned the M-79 grenade launchers and rounds shown on Thai television...I don't know if they were connected with this botched terrorist event or not. No valid information.

Also I saw a batch of obvious 60mm motar rounds displayed on that same news story.

Again...no valid information...but it does make you think...doesn't it?

Edited February 25, 2012 by IMA_FARANG

[redroo]

IMA_FARANGSupposedly the word derives from an Arabic word. There is a story that an army from Yemen was trying to kill Mohammed, and "SEJEAL" birds dropped large stones frlom the sky on that army's elephants...causing them to panic and stampede...and routing the army.

The rockets fired from Gaza at Isreal are called "sejeal stones" by the Palestinians who fire them.

Look it up on the internet, you will find a letter from an Isreali explaining this.

However, just be aware, that site is a very pro-Isreali site...so they definately do have a bias. Make your own judgements

Thanks for the info

[pauljones]

It also has been mentioned the radio bombs had a hand grenade trigger rigged to the C4 explosives.

Where can one find these things for sale in Thailand?

[sparebox2]

Chinese radio. So china do play part in contributing to this alleged terrorist act?

Algerian font used in the sticket. So Algeria in it too?

[janverbeem]

Police Still In The Dark About SEJEAL Sticker Mystery: Bangkok Terror Plot

Don't they read Thaivisa then?

[Thai at Heart]

I think the issue is that they can't work out which targets it was supposed to indicate. Problem is, if I remember seeing these stickers, a few were near the Marriot, but actually a lot were on pylons of the BTS. Not very reassuring that they can't work out where these guys meant to attack.

In all fairness, I am amazed that they have even mentioned that the target may have been Israeli diplomats etc. But then since when did a policeman in Thailand think that some things are better left unsaid.

"Me, me me, I got him, look how smart I am...."

[rkidlad]

Chinese radio. So china do play part in contributing to this alleged terrorist act?

Algerian font used in the sticket. So Algeria in it too?

Yes. and all found in Thailand. Thailand are involved, too? Now we must be suspicious of the Chinese, Algerians and Thais.

Keep your eyes peeled!

[blackthorn2005]

Chinese radio. So china do play part in contributing to this alleged terrorist act?

Algerian font used in the sticket. So Algeria in it too?

Who made the lamp posts they were stuck on? They are definitely involved!

SEJEAL, was posted by a JEALES lover

[TantraMantra]

Police found that a portable radio model that was made into three radio bombs, one of which was found at a house rented by the suspects, was made in China and had not been imported into Thailand by any trader or importer.

How do they know that the ittems were not imported into Thailand by any trader or importer? The yaba that is sent into Thailand via Burma and Laos comes in via conventional methods, yet the authorities cannot or will not stop it. Thailand is awash with counterfeit merchandise made in china. It too arrives via conventional methods, yet the authorities cannot or will not stop it. Unknown to most people is that the prevalence of counterfeit drugs in Thailand is at a level to create a national health crisis and yet the authorities cannot or will not stop it.

And now we get the pronouncement that no trader or importer brought it in. Right.

I suppose the devices could have been brought in via diplomatic courier parcels which cannot be opened or searched. That is basically the suggestion being made by the Thai authorities.

No it's just your own suggestion to add to your fountain of other false claims and bogus speculations.

[TantraMantra]

Chinese radio. So china do play part in contributing to this alleged terrorist act?

Algerian font used in the sticket. So Algeria in it too?

LOL...The font is just called Algerian by it's designers...It has nothing to do with Algeria.

[anterian]

IMA_FARANGSupposedly the word derives from an Arabic word. There is a story that an army from Yemen was trying to kill Mohammed, and "SEJEAL" birds dropped large stones frlom the sky on that army's elephants...causing them to panic and stampede...and routing the army.

The rockets fired from Gaza at Isreal are called "sejeal stones" by the Palestinians who fire them.

Look it up on the internet, you will find a letter from an Isreali explaining this.

However, just be aware, that site is a very pro-Isreali site...so they definately do have a bias. Make your own judgements

Thanks for the info

Actually it happened at a place named Sejeal.

[ma91c1an]

It also has been mentioned the radio bombs had a hand grenade trigger rigged to the C4 explosives.

Where can one find these things for sale in Thailand?

Grenades are available in Cambodia. Both grenades and C4 can be purchased from any Thai military man with access who wishes to make a bit of money on the side. If you make the right friends, and spend enough time drinking with them, you would be shocked at what you can acquire if you handle the transaction correctly.

It would be interesting to see a grenade initiator attached to a radio-activated switch. I am not certain that this report, wherever you saw it, is correct. There are ways to do it, but it would be easier and safer to not use radios. Radios introduce an unnecessary element of hazard, in my opinion. They also require much more sophistication.

You see, a grenade initiator is non-electric (at least all that I have seen are). In this description, a grenade initiator is very similar if not identical to a non-electrical blasting cap.

The way that a grenade works, you remove the pin from the grenade, then release the spoon, which in turns permits a striker to hit a percussion cap. This ignites a short fuse which in turn causes the grenade initiator/blasting cap to detonate after a few seconds (normally 4-6 seconds). The detonation of the initiator in turn causes the grenade explosive material itself to detonate.

The sequence: percussion cap >> fuse >> grenade initiator/blasting cap >> explosive is a non-electric explosive train.

You accomplish the same thing by crimping a non-electric blasting cap to a stretch of time fuse, poking a hole into a block of C4, and inserting the blasting cap. You can either light the time fuse conventionally, using a lighter or matches or some other source of fire, or you can use a military percussion spring-loaded device, the nomenclature of which escapes me at the moment. (It has been many years since I have thought about these things).

Again, this is a non-electric device:

Source of fire >> time fuse >> non-electric blasting cap >> C4 Explosive.

This is the same schema behind a grenade, except a grenade is encased in a metal shell that becomes shrapnel upon detonation. If you are creating an improvised grenade, simply press nails or other metal into the C4. It is quite malleable. Or, stuff the C4 into a length of metal pipe.

In any case, a non-electric train is, by far, the simplest and safest way to use explosives. Using grenades can make things even simpler, as blasting caps can be sensitive in the hands of the unskilled. There is not much need to get fancy, if you can affix a grenade to a target and then concoct a means for the pin to be extracted. Four to six seconds later, and you have grenade detonation.

In a case like this one, attackers could simply use sticky double-sided tape to affix strong magnets to grenades. This could suffice to attach a grenade to a vehicle or other target. The attackers could straighten the pin prongs so that the pin is smoothly removable. If the attackers are passing by on a motorcycle, they could pause next to the vehicle, affix the grenade, remove the pin, and proceed through traffic. Four to six seconds should be enough to get motorcycle-born attackers out of the burst radius, if they are not delayed.

When you incorporate a radio into an explosive device...such circuits require much more expertise and practice than non-electric explosive trains. The possibility that you will blow yourself up is much higher than confining yourself to non-electric trains.

Hope that helps.

[Credo]

The suspects do not appear to have been in Thailand long enough to have made or developed the kind of contacts to obtain some of the materials they would need. Unless I am missing something, it seems like there are other's involved. I hope they aren't still around.

[greenbirdwatcher]

What does the word writen roman text ,and isreali flag colour ,

" SEJEAL " mean ?

If that word is meant to be SIJJEEL, or SIJJIIL or سجيل , I can explain:

Sijjeel is an Arabic word borrowed from Farsi, which means :

- clay that has naturally hardened into stone;

- shards of pottery (which is made of clay and hardened by being baked at extremely high temperatures in special kilns; or

- fire-hot stones (possibly used in ancient warfare).

The word سجيل is mentioned 3 times in the Koran:

Chapter Hud, 11:82 - "So when Our command came, We made the highest part [of the city] its lowest and rained upon them stones of layered hard clay, [which were].."

Chapter Al-Hijr (The Rocky Tract) 15:74 - "And we made the highest part [of the city] its lowest and rained upon them stones of hard clay.

Chapter Al-Fiil (The Elephant) 105:4 - " Striking them with stones of hard clay ".

The Chapter Al-Fiil / The Elephant tells the story of how God sent the Ababil birds which carried mud or stones and dropped them onto the army of elephants (belonging to a Yemeni Christian King Abrahah who decided to attack Kaaba in Mecca). God sent wind from hell and turned the mud or stones into a hot, glowing stones and killed many of the attackers and the elephants as well.

The Chapter Al-Fiil only tells the shortened version of the story. The long version of the story is found in the Hadeeth (Prophet's traditions/sayings).

105:1 "Have you not considered, [O Mohammed], how your Lord dealt with the companion of the elephant?

105:2 "Did He not make their plan into misguidance?"

105:3 "And He sent against them birds in flocks"

105:4 "Striking them with stones of hard clay"

105:5 "And He made them like eaten straw".

The Occasion Of Revelation:

Ali-ibn-al-Hosain (p.b.u.h.) says in a tradition: Abu-Taleb always defended, with his sword, the Messenger of Allah (p.b.u.h.), in the wars.

He continued and said: (One day) Abu-Taleb said: 'O my nephew, are you appointed for all peoples, entirely, or only for your own people in particular?' The Prophet (p.b.u.h.) said that he had been appointed for all the human beings, entirely, whether they are white or black, Arab or non-Arab, and by Him in Whose hand was his soul, he was (appointed) to invite to the portent (the religion), all peoples, either white or black whether they were on the tops of the mountains or in the depths of the seas, and he was (appointed) to invite (the speakers of all) languages in Persia (Iran) and Rome.

Then, the Quraish, (hearing that), became astonished and considered it great and said: 'Do you not hearken to your nephew and what he says? By Allah, if Persians and Romans hear this, they will snatch us from our land and surely they will break the Ka'ba into pieces of stone'. Hence, Allah sent down this verse: They say: 'If we were to follow the guidance with thee, we should be snatched away from our land'. Have We not established for them a secure santuary, to which are brought as tribute fruits of all kinds... (Sura Qasas, No. 28, verse 57). And for the phrase that they said: 'They break the Ka'ba into pieces of stone', He sent down Sura Fil (in order to tell them that no one could accomplish such an action).

The Story of the Companions of the Elephants:

Commentators and historians have cited this story differently and they are divided as to when it had happened. But, the story, on the whole, is so well-known that it is counted in the line of widely transmitted chains of narrations. Here is a summary of it according to what is mentioned in 'Sirah' by Ibn-i-Husham, Buluq-ul-Irab, Bihar-ul-Anwar, and Majma'-al-Bayan.

Zu-Nuwas, the king of Yemen, persecuted the Christians of Najran, who lived there, in order to force them to leave their Faith. (The Qur'an has pointed out with the terms of /ashab-i-ukhdud/ 'the makers of the pit of Fire' in Sura Buruj, No. 85. The story of that persecution is mentioned in Volume 1 of this commentary. pages 295-296.)

After that terrible massacre, a man by the name of 'Dus' was able to escape and went for refuge to the Caesar of Rome, who was Christian, and described to him the event.

Since there was a long distance between Rome and Yemen. Caesar wrote a letter to Najashi, the king of Yemen, advising him to take revenge on the murder and sent the letter by the man, himself.

Najashi prepared an army of about seventy thousand men and sent them to Yemen under the leadership of 'Irbat'. Abrahah was also one of the commanders of that army.

The army invaded Yemen and before long defeated Zu-Nuwas, and 'Irbat' became the ruler of Yemen. But, after a short time, Abrahah rose against him and killing him, substituted Irbat.

The news reached Najashi who decided to punish Abrahah. Abrahah shaved the hair of his head and with some soil of Yemen sent this to Najashi as a sign of complete submission and loyalty.

When Najashi understood the situation, he forgave him and retained him in his position.

Then, to show his good behaviour and gratification, Abrahah had built a great, beautiful, splendid church unsurpassed in the world at that time. After that he introduced it as 'Ka'ba', to the people of Arabia, instead of the real Ka'ba and decided to make it the center for the Arab Hajj pilgrimage and to transfer the great central place of gatherings of Mecca to that place.

For this purpose, he sent many preachers to different places and among the Arab tribes in Arabia. But, Arabs, who intensely loved Mecca and the Ka'ba and knew it as the greatest sign of Prophet Abraham, the Khalil (a.s.), felt danger.

According to some narrations, a group of people hiddenly burnt the church. and according to some other narrations some people hiddenly desecrated it and thus they showed their intense reaction against that vast invitation and discredited Abrahah's church.

Abrahah became very angry and decided to destroy the Ka'ba, totally, both in order to take revenge, and to attract Arabs to the new temple. He set out to invade Mecca with an army which consisted of soldiers and elephants.

Approaching the outskirts of Mecca, Abrahah's men captured 200 camels belonging to Abdul-Muttalib, the grandfather of the holy Prophet (p.b.u.h.).

Abrahah sent a man to Mecca to find the supreme chief of Mecca and tell him of his intentions of destroying the Holy Ka'ba and to inform the authorities that if they did not stand against him he would not kill anyone.

The man arrived in Mecca and looked for the chief of the city. Everyone showed Abdul-Muttalib to him and he gave him the message. Abdul-Muttalib said that they were not in a position to fight with them and the Ka'ba would be protected by Allah ,Himself.

The man told Abdul-Muttalib that he should accompany him to see Abrahah. when Abdul-Muttalib approached the military camp he was received, respectfully, and Abrahah gave him an honourable seat near him and then he asked him about the purpose of his visit.

Abdul-Muttalib said that he had come to complain to Abrahah about the two hundred camels that Abrahah's men had taken away and to request him to return his animals to him.

Abrahah was taken aback when Abdul-Muttalib spoke like this. The conversation between the two is reported thus: what? I have come to destroy your place of worship, the Ka'ba, and you, instead of pleading to save the Holy House, speak of your camels! Abdul-Muttalib replied: The camels belong to me and I, as the owner of the camels, have come for them. The Ka'ba belongs to Allah and it is the concern of the Owner of the Ka'ba to save it or to leave it to its fate in your hands. (This statement shook Abrahah and he ordered that the camels be returned to Abdul-Muttalib).

Abdul-Muttalib returned to Mecca and advised the citizens to take refuge in the mountains around the city so as to be safe from being hurt by the invaders and he, himself, with a group of men went beside the Ka'ba to pray to Allah and ask for help.

O Lord! I hope not against them save Thee.

O Lord! Withdraw Thou therefore Thy protection from them.

O Lord! Verily he who is the enemy of this House is Thine enemy.

Verily, they have not defeated Thy forces.

Then, Abdul-Muttalib went to the valleys around Mecca with a group of the Quraish and sent one of his sons over Abu-Qubays mountain to see what was happening. He returned and said that he had seen a black cloud coming from the Red Sea. Abdul-Muttalib became happy with that news and said: O citizens of Quraish! Return to your houses because Allah has sent you His help.

This was the scene on one side. On the other side, when Abrahah, riding on his elephant by the name of 'Mahmood' and intending to destroy the Ka'ba, entered the city, a huge flock of tiny birds, like a cloud, appeared in the sky; each bird with three small stones, as small as a pea, carrying one in its tiny beak and two in its claws. They dropped them on the invading soldiers and they were killed at once.

Abrahah tried to go forth on elephant-back, but the animal did not move until it turned its head and moved swiftly toward Yemen, and there Abrahah, too, died in San'a, the capital of Yemen.

Ideas are divided as to the number of elephants that Abrahah had brought with himself in that invasion. Some have mentioned only one, Mahmood; some others have cited eight elephants; some ten; and some have considered them twelve elephants.

In the same year, the holy Prophet was born and brightened the world with the light of his being. Some believe that there is a relation between these two happenings.

At any rate, this miraculous event was so important that that year was called /amulfil/ 'the year of the elephant' and was known as a beginning date in the history of Arabs.

* * * *

Commentary:

In the first verse, of this Sura, the holy Prophet (p.b.u.h.) is addressed and questioned:

Have you not seen how your Lord dealt with the companions of the elephant?

They had come, with that massive army and power, to destroy the Ka'ba when Allah with an apparently very small army; tiny birds and small stones, destroyed it to show them that no power, even with those strong elephants, can prevail over the plan of Allah and made Man's weakness, in that case, manifest.

The phrase 'Have you not seen' refers to the occurrence of the event which was very close to the time of the birth of the Prophet (p.b.u.h.) though he was not born yet, or at his birth time. Besides, the happening was so well-known and famous as if the Prophet had seen it with his own eyes, and, of course, some people of his time like Abdul-Muttalib had witnessed it.

The term 'the companions of the elephant' (1), used in the verse, refers to the few elephants that were brought from Yemen both to scare the Arab defenders and their horses and camels, on the battlefield.

* * * *

Did He not make their stratagem go awry?

They intended to destroy the Ka'ba hoping that they would make the new established church, in Yemen, the Center for all Arabs of Arabia. But, they not only did not succeed in discrediting and destroying the Ka'ba, but it increased the fame and importance of the Holy Ka'ba and Mecca throughout Arabia, and attracted more loving thoughts and eager hearts to Mecca than ever before; it proved to be a location of security and of sanctuary; better and more wide spread.

The purpose of using the term /tadlil/ which means 'to lead astray' is that 'they never succeeded'.

* * * *

Then, describing the details of the happening, it says: And He sent upon them birds in flocks.

The term /ababil/, inspite of what is known among people, is not the name of that kind of bird, but, it has an adjectival sense. Some have considered it with the meaning of 'separate groups', i.e. the mentioned birds came from all sides in 'separate groups' towards 'the army which had elephants'.

However, the term /tayr/, here, has the plural meaning and these two terms, /tayr/ and /ababil/, both mean 'birds in a flock'.

What kind of birds were those birds? As it was mentioned in the description of the story, it is commonly known that some birds, like swallows, appeared from the side of the Red Sea as hosts above the head of that army of Abrahah.

* * * *

Pelting them with stones of petrified clay.

Further, in the description of the event which has been compiled from history, commentaries, and Islamic narrations, it was said that each of these small birds had three tiny stones with them as small as a pea, or smaller than that of which one was carried in its tiny beak and two in its claws. Any one of these small stones would immediately kill anyone on whom it was dropped.

Thus He made them like straw eaten up

The term /'asf/ means 'leaves and stalks of corn or plants of which the grain has been eaten by cattle'; in other words, it means 'straw'.

The phrase /ma'kul/ 'eaten up' indicates that this straw has been ground and smashed, completely, by the teeth of the animal, then, in the stomach of the animal, it has been ground for the third time. This meaning shows that the small stones would smash the one upon whom it would fall.

This idea, besides being an evidence for the intense action of crushing, points to the weakness and unworthiness of that tyrant, arrogant group who were apparently forceful.

* * * *

Explanation:

This House Has An Owner.

It is interesting that as a means of waking Man up, the Holy Qur'an tells this long story in a few short sentences which are extremely eloquent and expressive, and illustrates the weakness of arrogant Man compared to the great Power of Allah.

This happening shows that it does not necessarily need, as some people think, miracles to occur by the intercession of the Prophet or sinless Imams (p.b.u.h.) but in any condition that Allah wishes or necessitates, He does it. The purpose is that people may become acquainted with the greatness of Allah and the legitimacy of His religion.

This miraculous punishment has a clear difference with the miracles that happened for the punishment of other disobedient nations such as in Noah's Flood, a shower of stones for Lot's people, the storm for 'Ad's people, and lightning for Thamood's people. They were a series of natural happenings which were miracles only in those special circumstances, but the story of Abrahah and the birds pelting his army with little stones from their beaks and claws is not something like a natural event.

The raising up of these little birds, coming towards that army, carrying the little stones, their accurately pelting exactly upon the soldiers of Abrahah, and destroying a very large army simply with some little stones is something extraordinary, but we know that they are naught compared with the Power of Allah.

Allah, who has put the power of the atom inside the very little stones which produces a great explosion when it is released, can easily charge them with a property that makes the bodies of Abrahah's army like 'straw eaten up'; and there is no need of saying, as some Egyptian commentators did to justify the event as a natural occurrence, that the stones were poisoned with some microbes of plague, typhoid fever, small pox, or some other justifications. The thing that we can say is that the stones contained such a surprising effect which destroyed the bodies, and we know no more, but, in any event, there is nothing difficult for the Power of Allah to perform.

* * * *

The Gravest Punishment by the Least Means!

It is noteworthy that Allah has shown the oppressors His Power in the most suprizing ways.

There may be no divine punishment, in the world, more grievous than the punishment of Abrahah's army where a great many forces were so destroyed that they changed into a state of 'straw eaten up' and that they were destroyed by the means of tiny clay-stones carried by some little birds which is, itself, astonishing to all the arrogant, tyrant, oppressors of the world, and is a sign for them to know how weak they are when the Power of Allah works.

Still, sometimes Allah gives these grand missions to some smaller agents to perform. For example, He commissions a microbe, which is never visible to the naked eye, to increase into a very large, massive number through reproduction, in a very short time. Then, they infect the strong members of a society or societies with a dangerous, contagious disease, like a plague, during a short length of time which destroys them all, rapidly. This is the Power of Allah when He wills.

* * * *

The Purposes of the Story of the 'Elephant'.

The Sura after this one, Sura Quraish, illustrates, well, that one of the purposes of Sura Fil is the remembrance of the splendid blessings of Allah for the Quraish tribe to show them that had it not been for the Grace of Allah neither any trace of this sacred center, i.e. Mecca and Ka'ba, would remain nor of the Quraish tribe, themselves, in order that they might reduce their pride and arrogance and accept the invitation of the holy Prophet (p.b.u.h.).

On the other hand, this event, which was nearly close to the time of the birth of the holy Prophet (p.b.u.h.), in fact, paved the way for that great advent, and was the messenger of the importance of that rising. This is the same thing that is called /irhas/ 'indication' by commentators.

And, again, on the other hand, it is a warning to all arrogant ones in the world, whether they are from the Quraish or not, to know that they can never stand against the Power of Allah; they should submit to His Command and accept the right and justice.

And, further, it refers to the importance of the Holy House, the Ka'ba, that when the enemies plotted to destroy it and decided to transport its center of importance, which had a background from Abraham's (a.s.) time, to another land, Allah taught them such a lesson which serves as an example for all others and increased the importance and honour of that sacred center.

Moreover, Providence, Who accepted the supplication of Abraham, the Khalil (a.s.), about the security of that sacred land and guaranteed it, proved in that event that the Will of Allah has designed this center of monotheism and worship to remain secure forever.

* * * *

A Certain Historical Event.

It is interesting to note that the story of 'Ashab-i-Fil', 'the companion of the Elephant', was so well-known and certain, among Arabs, that it became the beginning point of the date in history for Arabs. And, as it was said before, the Holy Qur'an mentions it with the phrase /a lam tara/ 'Have you not seen?' and, also, addressing the Prophet (p.b.u.h.) who was not present at the event and did not see it, which is another sign of the certainty of that happening being sure.

Besides, when the holy Prophet (p.b.u.h.) recited these verses for the pagans of Mecca no one denied it. If it were a doubtful matter, at least a group of people would reject it and that rejection, like their other rejections, would be recorded in history, especially since the Qur'an has stated the matter with the phrase /a lam tara/, 'Have you not seen?'.

By the way, the splendor of this Sacred House is evidently proven with this certain historical miracle.

BTW: I'm not a Moslem and just put this info here for sharing knowledge only.

[greenbirdwatcher]

What does word " sejeal" mean ?

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Supposedly the word derives from an Arabic word. There is a story that an army from Yemen was trying to kill Mohammed, and "SEJEAL" birds dropped large stones frlom the sky on that army's elephants...causing them to panic and stampede...and routing the army.

That army of Yemen tried to destroy Kaaba, not to kill Mohammed, because he wasn't born yet at the time of the attack.

[ScubaBuddha]

Chinese radio. So china do play part in contributing to this alleged terrorist act?

Algerian font used in the sticket. So Algeria in it too?

LOL...The font is just called Algerian by it's designers...It has nothing to do with Algeria.

Well thank you for clearing THAT up Sherlock!

[pauljones]

A photo of the radio bomb.

Look like a grenade handle/pin attached.

http://2bangkok.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/abc_radio_bomb_jef_120221_wg.jpg

[metisdead]

Nonsense posts have been removed.

[rubl]

May I offer a new theory for further discussion here ?

If a foreigner ordered stickers in Thailand by phone and spelled out the word to be printed, what would the original word most likely be when the result is SEJEAL ? Furthermore would the original word be much different if the foreigner was from a.) Iran, b.) Israel, c.) Oxford, England, d.) Texas, USofA?

Edited February 26, 2012 by rubl

[maidu]

Why am I not surprised that Thai cops are focusing on the wrong things. As Paul mentions below........

It also has been mentioned the radio bombs had a hand grenade trigger rigged to the C4 explosives.

Where can one find these things for sale in Thailand?

....the instigation should try to find where the explosives come from. If it's Thai military (plausible), then find out who, and exact strong retribution. Also: Do a check on every Iranian and Middle Easterner who has visited Thailand in the past year, and see who might be implicated. Also: follow the money. For the suspects: find out exactly where their money is coming from - and follow up on it.

[AleG]

I think the issue is that they can't work out which targets it was supposed to indicate. Problem is, if I remember seeing these stickers, a few were near the Marriot, but actually a lot were on pylons of the BTS. Not very reassuring that they can't work out where these guys meant to attack.

In all fairness, I am amazed that they have even mentioned that the target may have been Israeli diplomats etc. But then since when did a policeman in Thailand think that some things are better left unsaid.

"Me, me me, I got him, look how smart I am...."

I'm thinking, perhaps it was a ploy to increase the "terror-factor", as if saying "this could-would also be a target for bombing", to show that they could strike many places and that they could move freely. As if saying "we are everywhere".

[Thai at Heart]

I'm thinking, perhaps it was a ploy to increase the "terror-factor", as if saying "this could-would also be a target for bombing", to show that they could strike many places and that they could move freely. As if saying "we are everywhere".

Well that is possible, but considering that they blew themselves up, it doesn't suggest a particularly "crack" unit of bombers. It could be symbolic, it could give targets, but in fairness, if you are going to walk around putting stickers up, why would you want to draw possible attention to yourselves by putting them everywhere.

Believe it or not, I could very easily believe that a lot of local Thais would mention to the nearest Seargent Somchai that an Arabic man was putting up stickers that apparently meant nothing. The fact that they put the find of the original stickers and the find of the other stickers together so quickly suggests that people have possibly noticed them already. Considering the amount of fly postering in Bangok, I am amazed that they could find any at all.

[Payboy]

Police Still In The Dark

That is news?

[Tanaka]

I have the impression that Thai police is in the dark just about all the time.