Toyota (Altis) 1.6L Versus The 2.0L - Is Fuel Economy Majorly Worse?

[Lopburi99]

The 2008 Altis we have is a 1.6G. I just placed a deposit on a new 2.0G. For highway driving we were getting 15-17 km/l, but I just read a review saying not to expect more than 10-12 km/l in the 2.0.

Any experience?

[culicine]

Here you go:

http://www.headlightmag.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2107:-toyota-corolla-altis-minorchange-20-cvt7-18-cvt-16-4at-&catid=64:c-segment-1600-2000-cc&Itemid=76

The 2.0 was only 1 km/l less than the 1.6 current model. I think those figures are mostly for open road driving. So the 2.0 CVT seems quite efficient and more economical than the previous 2.0. I'd be lucky to get 12 km/l on the highway in my civic 2.0; the altis could be more efficient.

[Kwasaki]

I'd say you made the right choice, nice motor around, have fun with your new toy, no worries.

[Lopburi99]

Here you go:

http://www.headlight...00-cc&Itemid=76

The 2.0 was only 1 km/l less than the 1.6 current model. I think those figures are mostly for open road driving. So the 2.0 CVT seems quite efficient and more economical than the previous 2.0. I'd be lucky to get 12 km/l on the highway in my civic 2.0; the altis could be more efficient.

What a great link for photos, thanks. We are getting the pearl white with black (dark gray?) interior, the only interior offered on the 2.0 series. I'll take your word for the article saying about the 1 km/l less stat, and that is great news. My general experience over my lifetime has been a larger engine will often take only marginally more fuel on the highway, which is all I care about. In the city I'll enjoy the substantial increase in low-end torque so I'll gladly give up some economy for that.

I will try to email the author/magazine to see if an English version of the article is available. This appears to be a most comprehensive article and I want to somehow read it all.

I'm not surprised about the increase in economy from the previous series to the new CVT, assuming the old 4 speed tranny was used. The new CVT is a 7 speed with two of them (I think) being overdrive.

It is looking more and more like this will be a good decision to trade up this year, which is mid-generation modify time.

[culicine]

Here you go:

http://www.headlight...00-cc&Itemid=76

The 2.0 was only 1 km/l less than the 1.6 current model. I think those figures are mostly for open road driving. So the 2.0 CVT seems quite efficient and more economical than the previous 2.0. I'd be lucky to get 12 km/l on the highway in my civic 2.0; the altis could be more efficient.

What a great link for photos, thanks. We are getting the pearl white with black (dark gray?) interior, the only interior offered on the 2.0 series. I'll take your word for the article saying about the 1 km/l less stat, and that is great news. My general experience over my lifetime has been a larger engine will often take only marginally more fuel on the highway, which is all I care about. In the city I'll enjoy the substantial increase in low-end torque so I'll gladly give up some economy for that.

I will try to email the author/magazine to see if an English version of the article is available. This appears to be a most comprehensive article and I want to somehow read it all.

I'm not surprised about the increase in economy from the previous series to the new CVT, assuming the old 4 speed tranny was used. The new CVT is a 7 speed with two of them (I think) being overdrive.

It is looking more and more like this will be a good decision to trade up this year, which is mid-generation modify time.

I'm not sure if there is an english version available. I usually use my wife (translator) to give me the gist of Thai articles. I think the CVT's are quite efficient (they are a simple construction) compared to old autos. I have only driven one cvt (test drove a brio), and think the gearbox takes a bit of getting used to - rpm shoots up to 6000 rpm but it slowly accelerates up to speed. If you saw the tables, the mid range and acceleration of the 2.0 is very good also. To me the only drawback is the plain design of the altis. If you don't care about resale, the new upcoming ford focus tdci would be a good choice - loads of torque and up to 17km/l fuel economy. Acceleration is similar to the new altis 2.0.

[Lopburi99]

Looking forward to seeing how much the 7 Speed CVT reminds me of my beloved old 1952 Buick Roadmaster's Dynaflow...