Thailand Is The Worlds Brothel.. Too Funny.

[bendix]

So we're agreed then, fletchsmile.

The VAST majority of Thai women are normal, respectable women consumed with the same interests that their peers in every other country - clothes, career, husbands, boyfriends etc and would be appalled to hear that TV posters can nonchalantly conclude that if you're on a dating site you're a hooker.

[fletchsmile]

So we're agreed then, fletchsmile.

The VAST majority of Thai women are normal, respectable women consumed with the same interests that their peers in every other country - clothes, career, husbands, boyfriends etc and would be appalled to hear that TV posters can nonchalantly conclude that if you're on a dating site you're a hooker.

Yep, agree the vast majority of Thai women are respectable and work in regular industries and aren't prostitutes.

Not sure about the use of the word "normal" though

[LivinLOS]

and would be appalled to hear that TV posters can nonchalantly conclude that if you're on a dating site you're a hooker.

Yes because the demographic thats cruising english language online dating sites to find overseas men has such different motivations

Anyway this wasnt about the women, it was about Thaivisa using a 'worlds brothel' shocker headline and the first line promoting a service to find women.

[GreenSnapper]

Yeah and both those countries are such a source of mail order brides exporting women (in mismatched age / / education / wealth) marriages world wide..

I have never seen a "mail order bride".

Can someone give me a hint where I can find one? I mean, not in a Western magazine, but a real one?

In general any thai online dating site.. like the one in the OP, is a common modern day start.

Can you be so kind and give me a direct link to the "mail order" part of that sites?

I mean, where I can order the bride, how much the costs and how much the shipping?

Like I can do at amazon.com.

Or is it just that the "mail order bride" myth is a fairy tale, made up by Western journalists and their believers?

[samsiam]

Is Dream World a front ??

[bendix]

Yes because the demographic thats cruising english language online dating sites to find overseas men has such different motivations

I would imagine the demographic who 'cruise english language online dating sites' are women who want to find western boyfriends and husbands. They would likely have a variety of motivations, including but not limited to the desire for financial security.

Is that any different to what women seek anywhere in the world? It doesnt make them prostitutes.

[LivinLOS]

Or is it just that the "mail order bride" myth is a fairy tale, made up by Western journalists and their believers?

You usually have to fly over a couple of times for goods inspection, delivery paperwork formalities, etc etc..

But shorthand for imported in it works quite well.

This docu is unintended comedy gold.. http://vimeo.com/38080781

Edited March 29, 2012 by LivinLOS

[GreenSnapper]

Or is it just that the "mail order bride" myth is a fairy tale, made up by Western journalists and their believers?

You usually have to fly over a couple of times for goods inspection, delivery paperwork formalities, etc etc..

Thanks for admitting that the "mail order bride" thing does not exist.

I like honesty in a discussion!

[LivinLOS]

Or is it just that the "mail order bride" myth is a fairy tale, made up by Western journalists and their believers?

You usually have to fly over a couple of times for goods inspection, delivery paperwork formalities, etc etc..

Thanks for admitting that the "mail order bride" thing does not exist.

I like honesty in a discussion!

Try those http://www.bridesbym...m/mob/asia.html

The article goes on to note that the Tahirih Justice Center, a nonprofit focused on protecting the rights of immigrant women, estimates the annual number of “mail-order” marriages in the U.S. at about 16,500 — more than double the number in 1999.

To the US alone.. Add europe and Oz.. Not bad for fiction.

Edited March 29, 2012 by LivinLOS

[GreenSnapper]

Try those http://www.bridesbym...m/mob/asia.html

The article goes on to note that the Tahirih Justice Center, a nonprofit focused on protecting the rights of immigrant women, estimates the annual number of “mail-order” marriages in the U.S. at about 16,500 — more than double the number in 1999.

To the US alone.. Add europe and Oz.. Not bad for fiction.

Dating is not "mail order".

I asked you for a direct link how to order, price, shipping, customs.

You could not deliver.

estimates the annual number of “mail-order” marriages in the U.S. at about 16,500

Those who "estimate" something without any proof, also cannot deliver.

There is no such thing as a "mail order bride".

[ravip]

How naive I was in 1977...

When I visited St. Pauli and the Reeperbahn while my ship was docked in Hamburg, I thought it was there.

[LivinLOS]

I think you are purposefully miss understanding the term mail order bride.. It doesnt mean they come in the post..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail-order_bride

A Mail-order bride is a woman who lists herself in catalogs (online or otherwise) and is selected by men for marriage

[GuestHouse]

Bendix, your claim not to understand the connection or indeed the irony in the OP lacks credibility.

Not because you are a liar, I don't call you that, but because you live here and your wife is Thai.

And please I make no comment on her or her background - though you might have taken heed of my repeated advice never ever introduce your wife, girlfriend, family or anyone else you care about into this bed of vipers we know as Thaivisa - alas too late on that one.

Let's add some verscity.

You, your wife, I or anyone else, Thai or foreign might wish it not to be so but there is an indisputable immage, an asociation, a connection between Thailand, sex tourism and prostitution.

Furthermore and importantly a significant number of the relationships between foreigners and Thai women start in the sex industry, many never leave it.

I guarantee that in every genuine (non sex industry related) relationship between a foreign man and a Thai woman there is at some level a concern that the woman is not perceived as a prostitute - a concern to project a seperation between this genuine relationship and that other business.

This concern exists because the reality of the sex industry is all around us.

If you, i or anyone else says they do not like the inference, connection or even the irony in the OP, that is perfectly understandable.

But to deny being able to even see the connection is utter hogwash exposed as such by non other than your clear sensitivity to the topic.

[farang000999]

I was under the impression that all these "Meet Thai Women/ 24 Hour Thai Bride" dating websites that are geared directly towards foreign men are a tiny step up from an escort service.

Now you've really upset a lot of happily married men.

I've never used any of these sites and not even visited their homepage so I could be completely wrong.

[bendix]

Bendix, your claim not to understand the connection or indeed the irony in the OP lacks credibility.

Not because you are a liar, I don't call you that, but because you live here and your wife is Thai.

And please I make no comment on her or her background - though you might have taken heed of my repeated advice never ever introduce your wife, girlfriend, family or anyone else you care about into this bed of vipers we know as Thaivisa - alas too late on that one.

Let's add some verscity.

You, your wife, I or anyone else, Thai or foreign might wish it not to be so but there is an indisputable immage, an asociation, a connection between Thailand, sex tourism and prostitution.

Furthermore and importantly a significant number of the relationships between foreigners and Thai women start in the sex industry, many never leave it.

I guarantee that in every genuine (non sex industry related) relationship between a foreign man and a Thai woman there is at some level a concern that the woman is not perceived as a prostitute - a concern to project a seperation between this genuine relationship and that other business.

This concern exists because the reality of the sex industry is all around us.

If you, i or anyone else says they do not like the inference, connection or even the irony in the OP, that is perfectly understandable.

But to deny being able to even see the connection is utter hogwash exposed as such by non other than your clear sensitivity to the topic.

Ummmmm. OK.

You're right. I do see the irony. Thanks for pointing it out to me.

As an aside, have you swallowed a dictionary in the last few weeks? Your posts have taken a weird stylistic turn recently

[F1fanatic]

I found it funny too OP, and it happens every now and again with other issues too.

Air Crash Investigation (on NGC/Discovery or one of those TV channels) used to have a happy, tinkly tune in-between the breaks. I pointed it out to friends (as I thought it was v funny) and they hadn't noticed!

[GreenSnapper]

I think you are purposefully miss understanding the term mail order bride.. It doesnt mean they come in the post..

http://en.wikipedia....ail-order_bride

A Mail-order bride is a woman who lists herself in catalogs (online or otherwise) and is selected by men for marriage

English is not my mother language. You may help me and tell me the definition of

1. Mail

2. Order

And some private opinion on the Wikipedia-blog isn't that helpful too.

And you may help me about my English a bit more:

My sister met her husband on a internet dating site. Is it correct English to call him "Mail Order Husband"?

[F1fanatic]

I think you are purposefully miss understanding the term mail order bride.. It doesnt mean they come in the post..

http://en.wikipedia....ail-order_bride

A Mail-order bride is a woman who lists herself in catalogs (online or otherwise) and is selected by men for marriage

English is not my mother language. You may help me and tell me the definition of

1. Mail

2. Order

And some private opinion on the Wikipedia-blog isn't that helpful too.

And you may help me about my English a bit more:

My sister met her husband on a internet dating site. Is it correct English to call him "Mail Order Husband"?

Umm, its not an "opinion" - its the definition of those on internet sites looking for a foreign man.

[LivinLOS]

I think you are purposefully miss understanding the term mail order bride.. It doesnt mean they come in the post..

http://en.wikipedia....ail-order_bride

A Mail-order bride is a woman who lists herself in catalogs (online or otherwise) and is selected by men for marriage

English is not my mother language. You may help me and tell me the definition of

1. Mail

2. Order

And some private opinion on the Wikipedia-blog isn't that helpful too.

OK then.. You are aware that in english language usage there are things called idioms right ?? And that an idiom is a word or collection of words whose figurative meaning is not the literal meaning of the words ??

You know this already ??

Hence 'mail order bride' does not mean you get them in the post. It means women, who put themselves onto dating sites and catalogs, to find a (specifically) overseas husband, who will move them to another country and (while not always) usually be a provider / support them. In general its accepted that there will be greater economic advantages to them in the pairing.

And you may help me about my English a bit more:

My sister met her husband on a internet dating site. Is it correct English to call him "Mail Order Husband"?

If she imported him to her country, provided the payment and funding to do so, and in general was the one who made the choices and provided and provides the finance.. Yes I would guess so. I fully expect this kind of thing may happen with men chasing green cards and using western dating sites but it seems to happen at far lower numbers and society seems to view it less negatively.

Edited March 29, 2012 by LivinLOS

[GuestHouse]

As an aside, have you swallowed a dictionary in the last few weeks? Your posts have taken a weird stylistic turn recently

You are making the curiously unusual error of mistaking substance for style. The converse is far more commonly the case.

Here's how, in this particular instance, to distinguish substance - it knocks a large hole in your own flimsy argument and exposes it as hogwash.

I've said not a liar, but I don't discount a fool.

[GreenSnapper]

Hence 'mail order bride' does not mean you get them in the post.

OK, it doesn't mean what it is meant to mean. I understand.

But to stop the bantering here, I will tell you what it really means:

"Mail Order Bride" is a sexist, racist term against women of other countries who decide to marry a Western man.

It is basically hate-speech by those who want to keep the competition out.

[KarenBravo]

Bendix, your claim not to understand the connection or indeed the irony in the OP lacks credibility.

Not because you are a liar, I don't call you that, but because you live here and your wife is Thai.

And please I make no comment on her or her background - though you might have taken heed of my repeated advice never ever introduce your wife, girlfriend, family or anyone else you care about into this bed of vipers we know as Thaivisa - alas too late on that one.

Let's add some verscity.

You, your wife, I or anyone else, Thai or foreign might wish it not to be so but there is an indisputable immage, an asociation, a connection between Thailand, sex tourism and prostitution.

Furthermore and importantly a significant number of the relationships between foreigners and Thai women start in the sex industry, many never leave it.

I guarantee that in every genuine (non sex industry related) relationship between a foreign man and a Thai woman there is at some level a concern that the woman is not perceived as a prostitute - a concern to project a seperation between this genuine relationship and that other business.

This concern exists because the reality of the sex industry is all around us.

If you, i or anyone else says they do not like the inference, connection or even the irony in the OP, that is perfectly understandable.

But to deny being able to even see the connection is utter hogwash exposed as such by non other than your clear sensitivity to the topic.

Guesthouse nails it again.

The evidence of this is everywhere on this site.

People usually just say wife / girlfriend, but, here on Thaivisa, there always seems to be a qualifier stating that the said wife is not from a certain industry.

[bendix]

As an aside, have you swallowed a dictionary in the last few weeks? Your posts have taken a weird stylistic turn recently

You are making the curiously unusual error of mistaking substance for style. The converse is far more commonly the case.

Here's how, in this particular instance, to distinguish substance - it knocks a large hole in your own flimsy argument and exposes it as hogwash.

I've said not a liar, but I don't discount a fool.

Oh, I have no objections to being called a fool. It happens all the time.

But come on . . spill the beans. Why have you suddenly adopted this verbose and slightly archaic writing style? It's literally happened in the last couple of weeks.

[bendix]

Bendix, your claim not to understand the connection or indeed the irony in the OP lacks credibility.

Not because you are a liar, I don't call you that, but because you live here and your wife is Thai.

And please I make no comment on her or her background - though you might have taken heed of my repeated advice never ever introduce your wife, girlfriend, family or anyone else you care about into this bed of vipers we know as Thaivisa - alas too late on that one.

Let's add some verscity.

You, your wife, I or anyone else, Thai or foreign might wish it not to be so but there is an indisputable immage, an asociation, a connection between Thailand, sex tourism and prostitution.

Furthermore and importantly a significant number of the relationships between foreigners and Thai women start in the sex industry, many never leave it.

I guarantee that in every genuine (non sex industry related) relationship between a foreign man and a Thai woman there is at some level a concern that the woman is not perceived as a prostitute - a concern to project a seperation between this genuine relationship and that other business.

This concern exists because the reality of the sex industry is all around us.

If you, i or anyone else says they do not like the inference, connection or even the irony in the OP, that is perfectly understandable.

But to deny being able to even see the connection is utter hogwash exposed as such by non other than your clear sensitivity to the topic.

Guesthouse nails it again.

The evidence of this is everywhere on this site.

People usually just say wife / girlfriend, but, here on Thaivisa, there always seems to be a qualifier stating that the said wife is not from a certain industry.

Look, I have no problem with GH's line of argument. As a valued member (nothwithstanding his recent conversion to Shakespearian prose), he's entitled to it.

If I am sensitive to the subject it is that I fundamentally disagree that the 'sex industry' is all around us, and I vehemently object to the random and casual line of thinking that every Thai woman is on the make or is a hooker.

Such a line of thinking reveals far more about those who express the view, than it does about the subject of that expression.

[TexasRanger]

As an aside, have you swallowed a dictionary in the last few weeks? Your posts have taken a weird stylistic turn recently

You are making the curiously unusual error of mistaking substance for style. The converse is far more commonly the case.

Here's how, in this particular instance, to distinguish substance - it knocks a large hole in your own flimsy argument and exposes it as hogwash.

I've said not a liar, but I don't discount a fool.

Oh, I have no objections to being called a fool. It happens all the time.

But come on . . spill the beans. Why have you suddenly adopted this verbose and slightly archaic writing style? It's literally happened in the last couple of weeks.

Yeah, he'll be using Latin quotes next, how pretentious.

[bendix]

Yeah, he'll be using Latin quotes next, how pretentious.

I know. What sort of knob does that?

Except the obvious ones, I mean.

[LivinLOS]

Hence 'mail order bride' does not mean you get them in the post.

OK, it doesn't mean what it is meant to mean. I understand.

But to stop the bantering here, I will tell you what it really means:

"Mail Order Bride" is a sexist, racist term against women of other countries who decide to marry a Western man.

It is basically hate-speech by those who want to keep the competition out.

Hang on.. Says who ?? A second ago you didnt understand the term, used some pretend excuse of lack of perfect native english skills to not be able to determine the real meaning and tried to pick a literal meanings..

Now you not only understand it perfectly, you even understand the motivations of its users, to the extreme of calling it hate speech. This is for a term who a couple of post ago said wasnt real and didnt exist ?!?!

So which one are you a lair about then ?? Not understanding it, or claiming to understand it so well you know what its users are thinking ??

[ARISTIDE]

Why many farang like to have kids with the women from Worlds Brothel?

[inthepink]

Well, speaking for myself, I don't consider Thailand as the world's brothel and my gf wasn't / isn't a prostitute. I had a child with her for the same reason your parents had you probably.

Edited March 29, 2012 by inthepink

[GuestHouse]

But come on . . spill the beans. Why have you suddenly adopted this verbose and slightly archaic writing style? It's literally happened in the last couple of weeks.

It might have something to do with the fact that I am nolonger working 80 hours a week and that I'm enjoying the luxuary of early nights. Though this in itself might not be enough. You might need to look a liitle further back to the disturbing possibility that, despite my then best efforts to do otherwise, I might actually have paid some attention at school.