Non Immigrant O-A Visa Forms

[kimamey]

I'm in the process of preparing to apply for a non Imm O-A visa in the UK and I'm a little confused about a few things. I got good advice on here before so I'm back for more.

A lot of the confusion is down to the embassy website not matching the forms.

The website says 3 application forms and 3 passport photos plus a Non immigrant "O-A" (long stay) form. On the visa form it says " 2 photographs to be submitted with 1 application form. Does this mean 3 forms with 2 photos. My guess is it's 3 forms with a photo each? On my previous post Tafia said 3 visa forms and 3 O-A long stay forms. If you're around Tafia is this correct as I know you've done this?

I'm initially going for 3 months coming back to the UK and then if everything works out I'll go out again to live with my gf after sorting things out in the UK. How should I describe this where it says "Purpose of visit"? It also asks for evidence substantiating this and in the notes it says.

2.3. For other purposes than tourism: Please submit EVIDENCE SUBSTANTIATING YOUR PURPOSE OF STAY.

Examples of such evidence are in case of transit, a confirmed travel document (air ticket etc.) showing Thailand as point of

transit, in case of business trip, a letter from employer and/or business counterpart in Thailand, in case of working in Thailand, a letter

of employment from your prospective employer, such document should be addressed to The Royal Thai Embassy, in case of

settlement in Thailand with Thai spouse/Children/Parents, your certificate of marriage/birth.

I'm intending to settle but as yet we're not married so I'm not sure what evidence I can give.

It asks for duration of stay. Would this be the 1 year before renewal?

and

For departure travelling

By:

To (country beyond Thailand):

Are these for transit visas maybe so I should not fill this in?

Am I right in assuming that the rules regarding seasoning of accounts in Thailand for other non imm visas don't apply to funds in the UK. I ask this because I have ample funds to meet the 800,000 THB requirement spread around several accounts (mostly ISAs which I've explained in my other post) which haven't had withdrawals for a few years I'm waiting for a reference letter from Santander which I asked for in the branch. I'm hoping it will be what I need although they did seem a bit vague. This will cover about 510,000 THB. All the other accounts are in internet only accounts so there isn't a branch to go into and it's proving difficult. My daughter is due to pay me some money which would cover this and I was thinking if this was paid into my Lloyds TSB current account I could get a letter direct from the branch but of course this would be money that was recently paid in. Any thoughts on this? I actually thought the funds issue would be the simplest since there are sufficient static funds available but it's proving to be the hardest.

[lopburi3]

As this is not a normal visa (O-A is also an extension of stay from Immigration) suspect three are needed to supply extra copy for that reason. You can't go wrong supplying three.

You apply for reason of retirement (long stay in Thailand).

Stay is one year.

Recently paid money should not be a serious issue.

[Tafia]

I used 3 of each form, (Im sure they gave me some back) but ere on the side of caution and do the lot, it always pays to have too much info than not enough. Apply for Multi Entry.

Purpose of visit ~ Retiring in Thailand.

Duration of stay ~ 1 Year no need for further travel info as you are only going to Thailand.

No seasoning of funds, so recent money no problem, show as much info as you can. Bank Statements (if online print out) Pension Statements etc. A letter from the bank will help explaining you have immediate access to the ISA's with their value etc. As long as you meet the financials there wont be a problem.

Dont forget - once you have collated everything get it all notorised by a Notary Solicitor.

Retirement/ Long stay Visa "O-A"

Medical Record

[kimamey]

Thanks for that. Not sure why I didn't think of retirement as reason for stay. Pretty obvious really. I've got a lot going on at the moment as well as this and I think I'm looking at this from a personal point of view. I'm not 58 yet and not retiring in the normal sense so I'm not thinking of it like that.

The medical form is with the doctor. They said they'd call me the following day to tell me when it would be ready and the cost. That was 3 days ago so I'll chase it. May be having trouble with the bit about "free from any defect". Not sure why the fact one of my ears sticks out more than the other is relevant but never mind. Already have the police report proving what a boring life I've led.

Just one thing, what evidence would substantiate the fact that the reason for my visit is retirement?

[lopburi3]

If this is causing stress why not just obtain a simple tourist visa and extend for 30 days (making the planned 90 day stay). Then you can determine how to proceed at that time. It would be a total waste of time/money getting the retirement if you change your mind about GF and living in Thailand.

[Tafia]

Just one thing, what evidence would substantiate the fact that the reason for my visit is retirement?

You don't really require any , you're over 50 have the financials tick all the boxes away you go.

[kimamey]

If this is causing stress why not just obtain a simple tourist visa and extend for 30 days (making the planned 90 day stay). Then you can determine how to proceed at that time. It would be a total waste of time/money getting the retirement if you change your mind about GF and living in Thailand.

I'm as sure as I can be without actually being there. I don't really feel like I'm retiring which is why I never thought of it in that way. You have however made me think of another option if any of the remaining documentation looks like holding me up. If I did go for a tourist visa how certain is it that I would be able to get a 30 day extension? Also are tourist visas only available from the embassy in London like the O-A?

[Mario2008]

The toruist visa extension is standard. No 100% guarantees can be given, but 99% seems fair.

Only for the O-A visa do you need to apply at the Thai embassy in London, for all other visas you can use one of the consulates as well.

[kimamey]

The toruist visa extension is standard. No 100% guarantees can be given, but 99% seems fair.

Only for the O-A visa do you need to apply at the Thai embassy in London, for all other visas you can use one of the consulates as well.

99% seems OK to me. After all the odds on me staying alive on roads in Isaan aren't that good.

It's the bank reference letters that are causing the problem for some reason. I thought these would be straightforward but I know different now. Of course this in turn delays my visit to the notary public as well.

I'm returning to the UK in 3 months anyway so I'm thinking of going down the tourist visa route as suggested and then I can deal with the O-A when I'm back with more time and a better idea of what's needed. From what I've read on the Hull consulate website I can even apply by post. I'm hoping this is right. Just one thing. To get an extension on the tourist visa is Bangkok the only place to do it?

[Mario2008]

A tourist visa can be extended at any imigration office in Thailand, including in the Isaan.

As said, only the Thai embassy in London can issue a O-A, the cosulates in the UK can only issue a non-O visa.

[bangkokburning]

One item I have found on the supplemental OA form that has me bristling...

OK, you are applying based on having 800k in the bank

The form requires you with asterik* to also state your monthly income AND I believe possibility to prove it. My income varies month to month so wildly and from a number of different sources it makes this visa problematic for me as well.

I contend once again, easier for my Thai GF to get a ten year visa to US than me an annual visa to Thailand.

[moe666]

One item I have found on the supplemental OA form that has me bristling...

OK, you are applying based on having 800k in the bank

The form requires you with asterik* to also state your monthly income AND I believe possibility to prove it. My income varies month to month so wildly and from a number of different sources it makes this visa problematic for me as well.

I contend once again, easier for my Thai GF to get a ten year visa to US than me an annual visa to Thailand.

If she is qualified maybe, but I think you think to much. Just average your income out over the year to get a monthly amount and give them the calculations. My extension of stay in Feb. took 15 min..

[bangkokburning]

My comment was regarding the supplemental form which must be submitted with all the other tripe when applying overseas, Not an extention in Thailand. thx,

Of course, maybe Brits are more fortunate and do not need to suject themselves.

Here it is

http://www.thaiembdc.../FORM/1a002.pdf

*MUST BE ACCURATE ACCOUNT....VERIFIED.

Then there is the med form stating that you do not have Elephantitus, Leporsy (sp) or 3rd stage Syphlis!

[bangkokburning]

To get an extension on the tourist visa is Bangkok the only place to do it?

You can extend a TR anywhere for B1900 - once. This will give you 30 days. You may be asked for a ticket out as well.

[kimamey]

My comment was regarding the supplemental form which must be submitted with all the other tripe when applying overseas, Not an extention in Thailand. thx,

Of course, maybe Brits are more fortunate and do not need to suject themselves.

Here it is

http://www.thaiembdc.../FORM/1a002.pdf

*MUST BE ACCURATE ACCOUNT....VERIFIED.

Then there is the med form stating that you do not have Elephantitus, Leporsy (sp) or 3rd stage Syphlis!

I like the bit on the med form about being free from defect. I think they're expecting a bit much at our age.

You're right about the additional O-A form. The UK one is slightly different.

http://thaiembassyuk...Long%20Stay.pdf

I would assume if you're using the 800K in the bank you would have to prove that and there would be no need for the income.

The question about occupation is a bit odd as you lose that as soon as you enter the kingdom with a O-A visa.

As I'm now likely to use a tourist visa for this trip and get the O-A later I've thought of something else that may or may not cause a problem.

When I arrive I will be allowed to stay for 60 days although I intend to get a 30 day extension to take it to 90 days. I have a ticket to return to the UK after 88 days which is OK with the 90 days but obviously not with the 60 which I will initially have.

[Mario2008]

To get an extension on the tourist visa is Bangkok the only place to do it?

You can extend a TR anywhere for B1900 - once. This will give you 30 days. You may be asked for a ticket out as well.

For an extension of a tourist visa a ticket out of the coutnry is not asked.

[bangkokburning]

Not asked? Well they asked me! Jomtien some years back.

The only time I ever bothered to make an extension, I was asked for a flight out. They would not give me an extension without it. So, this bit of assclownery also made me overstay as well. Thanks Royal Thai Police! Can always count on you to do the right thing!

[Mario2008]

Was it really for a tourist visa (60 days) or a visa exempt entry? For the last a ticket out is asked for.

[spacebass]

A tourist visa can be extended at any imigration office in Thailand, including in the Isaan.

As said, only the Thai embassy in London can issue a O-A, the cosulates in the UK can only issue a non-O visa.

Not according to this :

CHANNELS TO SUBMIT VISA APPLICATION AND FEE

1. Applicants can submit their applications at the Royal Thai Embassy or Royal Consulates in UK and

Ireland.

(http://thaiembassyuk.org.uk/?q=node/51)

[Lite Beer]

Consulates cannot issue a Non Imm O-A Visa in UK.

Only the Embassy in London can.

That info in the above link is wrong.

It even says you can apply at Suan Plu in Bangkok.