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Was wondering is there any agencies in Asia were if the find you a job there is a fee associated after employment?

I have heard of this before and any info grateful

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Head hunters will rarely work with a candidate to find them a job. They are retained by a company to find the best people for their business needs irrespective or not if that person is looking for a job.

Companies more likely to help you find a job are the high street database / internet agencies of which there are many in Thailand. They will not charge you a fee, and if they try to charge you one, walk on by.

Other firms that do charge a fee are outplacement firms who will work you your interview style, brush up your CV, and point you in the right direction but can not guarantee you will get a job.

PM you experience and industry and I will point you towards a few people that might help.

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Do you collect heads? I have a huge collection of heads are you interested in buying?

Can you not make do with just one outside privvy, same as in the old days?

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Head hunters will rarely work with a candidate to find them a job. They are retained by a company to find the best people for their business needs irrespective or not if that person is looking for a job.

I have retired now, but back in the day I was placed on two separate occasions after making contact with head hunters - in fact I made it a point to stay in touch with a couple of consultants (one at Spencer Stuart, and one at Boyden Associates) over the years. There is no point in pestering them, but an occasional phone call to let people know where you are, and what you are doing, does not go astray. After all, they never know when you might have an assignment for them, some time down the track. Of course it all depends on whether or not they like your track record etc.

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Speaking from HR point of view, usually each headhunter will have a big pool of candidates in their own country and they help customers find the right candidates for them. I would suggest you send your CV to different headhunters/recruitment agencies so that they have your profile in their database. Once possible job comes along, they would contact you if they find you suitable for the job. My company has been in touch with several international headhunters such as Johncrements and Korn-Ferry when we searched for the candidates from outside Thailand. For local job market, we use PRTR, Pacific2000 and BTI - they are pretty good.

If you need a contact detail I can give it to you.

Good luck with your job search. :)

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If you are a well qualified candidate with a strong track record, and can work in a sector that is growing, and know how to present yourself at interview, they will fall all over themselves to get you onto their books. In fact, if you are good enough, and in a senior enough position, you will already be on the databases of the big headhunters.

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Head hunters will rarely work with a candidate to find them a job. They are retained by a company to find the best people for their business needs irrespective or not if that person is looking for a job.

I have retired now, but back in the day I was placed on two separate occasions after making contact with head hunters - in fact I made it a point to stay in touch with a couple of consultants (one at Spencer Stuart, and one at Boyden Associates) over the years. There is no point in pestering them, but an occasional phone call to let people know where you are, and what you are doing, does not go astray. After all, they never know when you might have an assignment for them, some time down the track. Of course it all depends on whether or not they like your track record etc.

Exactly - making them aware of your existence is vital, but unless they have a matching mandate it is unlikely they will work pro actively on your behalf unless you have a excedingly specialist skill set or can prove you are in the top 1% of your industry. Proactively does not mean by the way throwing your CV around the industry but more a specific marketing campaign towards a handful of specific direct competitors.

Speaking from HR point of view, usually each headhunter will have a big pool of candidates in their own country and they help customers find the right candidates for them. I would suggest you send your CV to different headhunters/recruitment agencies so that they have your profile in their database. Once possible job comes along, they would contact you if they find you suitable for the job. My company has been in touch with several international headhunters such as Johncrements and Korn-Ferry when we searched for the candidates from outside Thailand. For local job market, we use PRTR, Pacific2000 and BTI - they are pretty good.

If you need a contact detail I can give it to you.

Good luck with your job search. smile.png

Everyone in recruitment has a pool of candidates, but as soon as that person is entered into a database the information is out of date. If a head hunter is talking about looking at who they have on their books or database; then simply put, they are not a head hunter. They are database agents and relying on them to perform a confidential search is not a wise investment of your time and resources.

KF and JC are solid reputable head hunters. The three local firms you mention are database agents that sometimes sell a head hunting service, but do not have the expertise to deliver such. It is a half way house between search and database / advertising search so at best you are looking at getting the best candidate of those who are actively looking for a job; which in itself is about 15% of the market. They are very good at what they do with strong local knowledge, but will not get you the best there is; only the best that is looking. Put it this way, if a person is not on their database, on the internet job boards or linked in, they will most likely not find them.

If you are a well qualified candidate with a strong track record, and can work in a sector that is growing, and know how to present yourself at interview, they will fall all over themselves to get you onto their books. In fact, if you are good enough, and in a senior enough position, you will already be on the databases of the big headhunters.

True - but head hunters follow a basic process; who are the competitor companies or those with very closely aligned offerings where transferable skills may apply. Then they identify each and every person who is currently doing the job a company is looking to fill, and head hunt these people. Being "on their books" will only mean that they can take a short cut and merely confirm where you still are; not get you a head start in their process. Head hunters are more like accountants and Lawyers as opposed to the database agents similarity to estate agents and insurance salesmen. They perform a very different service and if this service is not appropriate to a clients needs, they will tell you. i.e., if a firm needs a few BDMs from any B2B company with no direct industry experience, then a agency is the way to go. If they needed direct industry experience in a particular function, then a head hunter is the way to go. Not really much cross over; although the amount of hiring managers and facilitators within firms in Asia that do not realise this is startling; so much time and money is wasted when a simple understanding of exactly how each type of firms works would mean that consistently those empty seats in the office causing them sleepless nights remain empty until a "that will do" person is appointed; hardly the way for company to grow stronger.

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