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Transport Ministry to proceed with the construction of high-speed train

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BANGKOK, 25 April 2012 (NNT) – The Transport Ministry is pushing ahead with the planned construction of a high-speed train system after China and Japan have expressed interest in the project.

Transport Minister Charupong Ruangsuwan said on Tuesday that China and Japan have notified the Transport Ministry of their interest to invest in the country's high-speed train construction project.

Accordingly, the state-appointed high-speed train project committee held a meeting to discuss the detail of the investment, which will later be reported to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra for consideration.

Mr. Charupong added that, concurrently, a new committee, which will be chaired by the prime minister, will need to be set up to oversee the working committee in charge of drafting Thailand's points of demand for high-speed electric train system, the engineering technology, the funding and investment, the approaches to add value to the project and the train operating committee.

In the preliminary process, the Ministry is considering 4 possible routes, including the 745-km Bangkok-Chiang Mai route worth 229 billion baht, the 614-km Bangkok-Nong Khai route worth 201.44 billion baht, the 221-km Bangkok-Rayong route worth 72.26 billion baht and the 225-km Bangkok-Hua Hin route worth 82.16 billion baht, according to the Transport Minister.

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The contract should go the proven and well known Chinese firm of Shenzhen Scope, considering the strong possibility of a significant discount for having simultaneous mega-projects with them.

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They could use the train to speed the delivery of the first batch of tablets.

I reckon they'll be able to beam them over by the time they're ready.

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Japanese building railways in Thailand....there is something in the back of my mind here.

I suppose the less Thai engineering involved the more likely it is that it will work.

The Thai authorities have been getting the British bridge building teams in place in Pattaya for some time now. They just smile and take your money so you can't afford to leave. A few have seen through the plan and taken the condo freefall route out.

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It's going to take Britain 7 years to build High Speed 2 and that is only 120 miles long. How long will it take Thailand to build a railway anything between four and seven times as long and what will the final cost be?

In a country where they can't even get the ordering right for a few School Tablets for kids how are we supposed to believe that the Thai's could manage such a huge undertaking considering the high tech required. We all know that the Chinese and the Jap's are clever but will they be able to convince Thai 'Engineers' that they know best?

I've said it before and I'll say it again....this won't happen in my lifetime.

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It's going to take Britain 7 years to build High Speed 2 and that is only 120 miles long. How long will it take Thailand to build a railway anything between four and seven times as long and what will the final cost be?

In a country where they can't even get the ordering right for a few School Tablets for kids how are we supposed to believe that the Thai's could manage such a huge undertaking considering the high tech required. We all know that the Chinese and the Jap's are clever but but will they be able to convince Thai 'Engineers' that they know best?

I've said it before and I'll say it again....this won't happen in my lifetime.

if it will take 3 years to deliver the 900.000 tablets, Iam sure you´r right.wink.png

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The Chinese want to build a Trans SE Asia line that extends north from CM to the border and then on into China and also south to Malaysia.

Fat chance.

Bangkok-Hua Hin route worth 82.16 billion baht.

The line stop there, unless the South is smart enough to vote for Thaksin.

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I think it would the first time in history that the train system on the other side of the border is compatible.....just too good to be true.

An Asian network that is fast and cheap, maybe cheaper than transport per ship or truck might boost the economic and environment friendly...just it won't happen.

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The Chinese want to build a Trans SE Asia line that extends north from CM to the border and then on into China and also south to Malaysia.

Transsibirian Express, Orient Express, old dreams of railway connections.

High Speed trains are useful for the "elites" and/or a system of network control in a country with high railway traffic.

Bangkok-Hua Hin or to the Casinos in Kampuchea would be the first step.

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It's going to take Britain 7 years to build High Speed 2 and that is only 120 miles long. How long will it take Thailand to build a railway anything between four and seven times as long and what will the final cost be?

In a country where they can't even get the ordering right for a few School Tablets for kids how are we supposed to believe that the Thai's could manage such a huge undertaking considering the high tech required. We all know that the Chinese and the Jap's are clever but will they be able to convince Thai 'Engineers' that they know best?

I've said it before and I'll say it again....this won't happen in my lifetime.

I think it might but Thai Engineers have found a solution to all problems - limit train speeds to 40km per hour. What, not high speed? Easy slow all other trains to 20km per hour - problems solved!

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It's going to take Britain 7 years to build High Speed 2 and that is only 120 miles long. How long will it take Thailand to build a railway anything between four and seven times as long and what will the final cost be?

In a country where they can't even get the ordering right for a few School Tablets for kids how are we supposed to believe that the Thai's could manage such a huge undertaking considering the high tech required. We all know that the Chinese and the Jap's are clever but but will they be able to convince Thai 'Engineers' that they know best?

I've said it before and I'll say it again....this won't happen in my lifetime.

if it will take 3 years to deliver the 900.000 tablets, Iam sure you´r right.wink.png

Are these tablets you talk about part of the missing medicine? Government question time!

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It's going to take Britain 7 years to build High Speed 2 and that is only 120 miles long. How long will it take Thailand to build a railway anything between four and seven times as long and what will the final cost be?

In a country where they can't even get the ordering right for a few School Tablets for kids how are we supposed to believe that the Thai's could manage such a huge undertaking considering the high tech required. We all know that the Chinese and the Jap's are clever but will they be able to convince Thai 'Engineers' that they know best?

I've said it before and I'll say it again....this won't happen in my lifetime.

It doesn't really matter to this bunch of PTP thieves if they build it or not. The main thing is get it approved and approve the budget before they leave office so they can get their cut. They couldn't care less about completion becuase they don't care at all.
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It's going to take Britain 7 years to build High Speed 2 and that is only 120 miles long. How long will it take Thailand to build a railway anything between four and seven times as long and what will the final cost be?

In a country where they can't even get the ordering right for a few School Tablets for kids how are we supposed to believe that the Thai's could manage such a huge undertaking considering the high tech required. We all know that the Chinese and the Jap's are clever but will they be able to convince Thai 'Engineers' that they know best?

I've said it before and I'll say it again....this won't happen in my lifetime.

Took them 40 years to build Suvarnabhumi Airport...

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It's going to take Britain 7 years to build High Speed 2 and that is only 120 miles long. How long will it take Thailand to build a railway anything between four and seven times as long and what will the final cost be?

In a country where they can't even get the ordering right for a few School Tablets for kids how are we supposed to believe that the Thai's could manage such a huge undertaking considering the high tech required. We all know that the Chinese and the Jap's are clever but will they be able to convince Thai 'Engineers' that they know best?

I've said it before and I'll say it again....this won't happen in my lifetime.

Took them 40 years to build Suvarnabhumi Airport...

And they could not complete that elevated train to Don Muang in the 90 years of its operation....

So I guess a complete high speed railway: 1000 years at minimum

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Just tell them not to forget to tie the bufallos up. In a country where is repeated bombings (Lee Gardens) Iranians etc etc I really don't think this idea is too smart. Will be a prime target.

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It's going to take Britain 7 years to build High Speed 2 and that is only 120 miles long. How long will it take Thailand to build a railway anything between four and seven times as long and what will the final cost be?

In a country where they can't even get the ordering right for a few School Tablets for kids how are we supposed to believe that the Thai's could manage such a huge undertaking considering the high tech required. We all know that the Chinese and the Jap's are clever but will they be able to convince Thai 'Engineers' that they know best?

I've said it before and I'll say it again....this won't happen in my lifetime.

Took them 40 years to build Suvarnabhumi Airport...

That´s about say´s it all.
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Haven't the Chinese suspended their HST operation?

At the Rainhill trials where George Stephenson showed off his Rocket locomotive an MP was knocked over and killed. I think Rocket was speeding along at 12 mph at the time. Just think how many Thai MP's could be wiped out with a 300 kph speedster showing off its paces. What a delicious thought.

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Siemens made a High Speed train in China - for the Elite (Siemens Velaro China (Velaro CN / CRH3)) between Shanghai and Beijing.

After small problems they copy the Siemens train and other High Speed trains they tested before.

Some big accidents followed, wiki it.

Siemens is an international company, reputation wobbles between good technology and intelligent bribery.

The submarineways in Bangkok......?

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Can someone explain to me why a highspeed train from Bangkok to Huahin is worth doing?

It isn't. Pretty much like the touted motorways plan. Hot air. They like the sound of their own voices.

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Japanese building railways in Thailand....there is something in the back of my mind here.

I suppose the less Thai engineering involved the more likely it is that it will work.

Also in the back of my mind. This time the labourers will be mostly Thai and payed at least 300b/d ?

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I hate to disappoint people, but apart from topic header "TM to proceed with construction" and first sentence "TM pushing ahead with planned construction" there's nothing on actual construction. t's all about discussing, committees overseeing important parts like 'financing' and considering routes.

Please don't hold your breath on this one, you might turn bluish wink.png

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The Chinese want to build a Trans SE Asia line that extends north from CM to the border and then on into China and also south to Malaysia.

I thought they wanted to build a high speed double rail system from Bangkok into China and it would not go to Chiang Mai. Ultimately they want to have a high speed all the way from Singapore.

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The Chinese want to build a Trans SE Asia line that extends north from CM to the border and then on into China and also south to Malaysia.

I thought they wanted to build a high speed double rail system from Bangkok into China and it would not go to Chiang Mai. Ultimately they want to have a high speed all the way from Singapore.

the chinese want rail to indian ocean side thru myanmar. Cuts shipping time and secures oil supply via myanmar instead of worrying about malacca straight.

Rail to singapore isnt thar vital for chinese interests. They need cheaper shiping for goods from western china. Plus when they build their port in myanmar, have to stock their navy somehow. China will have a big military footprint into indian ocean.

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