Keeway Rkv 200 - Any Good?

[sic103]

Hi everyone,

Down here in south america (Venezuela) keeway controls the motorcycle market as i would roughly say that out of a 100 bike on the street 99 is a keeway due to economics n availability. Keeway variety here is crap. Right now there's only the new owen150 (if you can find one in a dealer), horse II 150, arsenII 150, the new speed200, tx200 (hard to find), the rkv200, the outlook 150. the 250's are no longer available unless second hand. I don't know if the names would be different in other countries. The rk6 supposedly coming out this year but i fear for the price tag. To what i been told it's already in the country assembled n all butt they waiting for price to hike up before.

The quality is good for the motorcycle price range. Of course due to our ever declining economy I paid 28000 bsf for the rkv200 which is equivalent to 4444 us dollars. The rkv is the better looking of all available keeway bikes here. My first was a speed 200. Great bike for city once u get to highway not so fun anymore due to it's limited engine size. The tire size is the real let down. This brings me back to quality.... I'm sure everything was good til it hit the dealership where they assemble them. It felt real underpowered until i had a friend pop open the carb where we discovered that it wasn't set right. Now it's as it should be. The mechanics that put them together here are paid per bike assembled so they just throw everything together as fast as they can.

Sorry i drifted off.

The rkv as I've said before i think it's the best looking keeway low end. I've had it for almost 4 weeks only. It seems it has more low torque than my speed. On top I've only been able to run it up to 108 km/hr with the engine screaming to me to ease off. The speed i was able to top it at 118 km/hr. maybe bad assembly n needs to be checked over too? Finding neutral is a pain seem to be the general consensus. But in my case it goes father. When i do find neutral (neutral light on n all) n i let out the clutch it stalls 90% of the time. It seems to be between neutral n a gear. My mechanic is on vacation. I haven't taken it back to the dealer cause i don't want their mechanic to touch my bike anymore. I had a real bad experience with him with my speed 200 where i suspect it was him who put water into the engine oil. Oh n lastly.... The left peg for the pillion is bent outwards. Hard to explain I'll see if i can post pics of it today.

Wait.... The tires. As all chinese bikes come with crap tires that needs to be changed as soon as possible down here at least. The stocks are real horrible. In dry when it's hot it's alright but on cool days/night grip declines. In wet it's real bad. The owner of this thread says different... Maybe different model tires here compared to Thai? I'm gonna order some sport demons soon. We're in rain season now n the spill i took on my speed earlier this year is enough for me lol

4444 us dollars for a keeway? Thats expensive. In Thailand we can buy a honda cbr 250abs for that and have some change left.

How much is a cbr250 in venezuela (if they are available)?

I don't know new.... Since government put currency control new brand name bikes Are scarce. 250 kawi or hondas are almost impossible to find. But this kind paints the picture.... A 1998 cbr250r this guy is asking for 62000bsf (9841$). A new 1000cc vstrom costs 380000bsf ($60000+). sad isn't? Btw my rkv costs $476 bucks more as of yesterday.

[pokerkid]

Hi everyone,

Down here in south america (Venezuela) keeway controls the motorcycle market as i would roughly say that out of a 100 bike on the street 99 is a keeway due to economics n availability. Keeway variety here is crap. Right now there's only the new owen150 (if you can find one in a dealer), horse II 150, arsenII 150, the new speed200, tx200 (hard to find), the rkv200, the outlook 150. the 250's are no longer available unless second hand. I don't know if the names would be different in other countries. The rk6 supposedly coming out this year but i fear for the price tag. To what i been told it's already in the country assembled n all butt they waiting for price to hike up before.

The quality is good for the motorcycle price range. Of course due to our ever declining economy I paid 28000 bsf for the rkv200 which is equivalent to 4444 us dollars. The rkv is the better looking of all available keeway bikes here. My first was a speed 200. Great bike for city once u get to highway not so fun anymore due to it's limited engine size. The tire size is the real let down. This brings me back to quality.... I'm sure everything was good til it hit the dealership where they assemble them. It felt real underpowered until i had a friend pop open the carb where we discovered that it wasn't set right. Now it's as it should be. The mechanics that put them together here are paid per bike assembled so they just throw everything together as fast as they can.

Sorry i drifted off.

The rkv as I've said before i think it's the best looking keeway low end. I've had it for almost 4 weeks only. It seems it has more low torque than my speed. On top I've only been able to run it up to 108 km/hr with the engine screaming to me to ease off. The speed i was able to top it at 118 km/hr. maybe bad assembly n needs to be checked over too? Finding neutral is a pain seem to be the general consensus. But in my case it goes father. When i do find neutral (neutral light on n all) n i let out the clutch it stalls 90% of the time. It seems to be between neutral n a gear. My mechanic is on vacation. I haven't taken it back to the dealer cause i don't want their mechanic to touch my bike anymore. I had a real bad experience with him with my speed 200 where i suspect it was him who put water into the engine oil. Oh n lastly.... The left peg for the pillion is bent outwards. Hard to explain I'll see if i can post pics of it today.

Wait.... The tires. As all chinese bikes come with crap tires that needs to be changed as soon as possible down here at least. The stocks are real horrible. In dry when it's hot it's alright but on cool days/night grip declines. In wet it's real bad. The owner of this thread says different... Maybe different model tires here compared to Thai? I'm gonna order some sport demons soon. We're in rain season now n the spill i took on my speed earlier this year is enough for me lol

4444 us dollars for a keeway? Thats expensive. In Thailand we can buy a honda cbr 250abs for that and have some change left.

How much is a cbr250 in venezuela (if they are available)?

I don't know new.... Since government put currency control new brand name bikes Are scarce. 250 kawi or hondas are almost impossible to find. But this kind paints the picture.... A 1998 cbr250r this guy is asking for 62000bsf (9841$). A new 1000cc vstrom costs 380000bsf ($60000+). sad isn't? Btw my rkv costs $476 bucks more as of yesterday.

Everybody is always complaining in Thailand about the high price of vehicles here, seems its not so bad after all......

[Shurup]

It is bad... comparing to some civilized countries. :-D

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[pokerkid]

It is bad... comparing to some civilized countries. :-D

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Still the total cost of ownership is lower here then in the west.

[mania]

Everybody is always complaining in Thailand about the high price of vehicles here, seems its not so bad after all......

Yes I feel a bit better by comparison I guess

I was recently whining about prices here & a guy from Denmark told me this...

You should try living in Denmark:

R1 = $47,780

S 1000 RR = $49,922

1199 Panigale S = $83,314

ER-6f ABS = $20,527

Ninja 300 ABS = $11,501

[mania]

It is bad... comparing to some civilized countries. :-D

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Still the total cost of ownership is lower here then in the west.

You know I agree on the smaller bikes or Thai built larger

but all the imports at double price from US I am not too sure.

[pokerkid]

Well, Denmark must not be a civilised

It is bad... comparing to some civilized countries. :-D

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Still the total cost of ownership is lower here then in the west.

You know I agree on the smaller bikes or Thai built larger

but all the imports at double price from US I am not too sure.

high purchase price but also high resale price though not on some motorbikes, more on cars.

Edited June 22, 2013 by pokerkid

[mania]

high purchase price but also high resale price though not on some motorbikes, more on cars.

Your right!

I forgot about that. Depreciation here is much less

[pokerkid]

Yes I feel a bit better by comparison I guess

I was recently whining about prices here & a guy from Denmark told me this...

You should try living in Denmark:

R1 = $47,780

S 1000 RR = $49,922

1199 Panigale S = $83,314

ER-6f ABS = $20,527

Ninja 300 ABS = $11,501

I guess Denmark is not a civilised country.....

[sic103]

No idea how to post pics through a mobile phone. Let me see if i can explain it. The part of the frame where it holds the left rear peg sticks about 4-5 cms more than the right side. The triangle part seem to be bent outwards. When i was buying it i gave it a look over but hell who actually checks for that. It's no big deal but it shouldn't happen you know. Just noticed there's a real small leak coming off the bottom of the engine. I'm gonna take it back n have them fix it.

[sic103]

Yes I feel a bit better by comparison I guess

I was recently whining about prices here & a guy from Denmark told me this...

You should try living in Denmark:

R1 = $47,780

S 1000 RR = $49,922

1199 Panigale S = $83,314

ER-6f ABS = $20,527

Ninja 300 ABS = $11,501

I guess Denmark is not a civilised country.....

If Denmark isn't civilized then what's Venezuela lol. Here if you have the cash to buy a high end bike you have to worry about getting your bike highjacked for ransom. If you don't have the cash to buy a big bike you have to settle for a low cc bike n worry about getting shot dead to jack your bike for parts.

[Shurup]

It is bad... comparing to some civilized countries. :-D

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Still the total cost of ownership is lower here then in the west.  

The purchase price and the cost of ownership are different things, but you're right, I never looked at it this way, always have taken the initial cost into consideration and for the most part it is the initial cost that matters, unless the owner is someone living here temporarily.

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[mark131v]

Can anyone give me the address of a Keeway dealer in Pattaya I have been all through the topic and had a look on the Keeway website and cannot see one....cheers!

Anybody.....

[pokerkid]

Can anyone give me the address of a Keeway dealer in Pattaya I have been all through the topic and had a look on the Keeway website and cannot see one....cheers!

Anybody.....

Mityon pattaya used to sell them, do not have any adress though. This is what i found on another forum. This info is from 2010.

"The particular dealer is located at the junction of 3rd Rd and South Pattaya Rd.(Precisely at the North Eastern corner of the junction)."

Edited June 22, 2013 by pokerkid

[Issanman]

If Denmark isn't civilized then what's Venezuela lol. Here if you have the cash to buy a high end bike you have to worry about getting your bike highjacked for ransom. If you don't have the cash to buy a big bike you have to settle for a low cc bike n worry about getting shot dead to jack your bike for parts.

Hey, at least you guys get cheap gas down there, right?

BTW, if anyone is interested, the Keeway TXM200 has a mono-shock (non-adjustable) rear suspension that works pretty good. I have never bottomed it out, even with a passenger. The TXM does have the oil-cooler as standard equipment. The Chinese tires on mine are very good. Brand name on tires: Cordial. As I reported earlier, mine does not like to go over 100 km/h but will do it if I lay down a bit and tuck in. It will cruise very nicely at 90 to 100, even with passenger, but just runs out of breath above 100. I don't think it intentionally has a limiter, just a very small carb! I concur that finding neutral is a pain. The TXM comes with a small rack on the back. I went to the Yamaha dealer and got a very nice 26 litre box which happens to match up to the Keeway rack very well. The box is well-made and is lockable and removable. I now have locking storage on my Keeway 200. My full-face Nolan helmet fits inside perfectly for safe-keeping.

I have ridden mine nearly full-blast at all times since I got it, and yes, it is slow, but it is rock-steady and beats the crap out of having to ride around everywhere on one of the typical noodle-bikes that most everyone else is riding around on up here. The real advantage is on the bumpy roads that the little bikes crash their little tiny suspensions on.

[sic103]

If Denmark isn't civilized then what's Venezuela lol. Here if you have the cash to buy a high end bike you have to worry about getting your bike highjacked for ransom. If you don't have the cash to buy a big bike you have to settle for a low cc bike n worry about getting shot dead to jack your bike for parts.

Hey, at least you guys get cheap gas down there, right?

BTW, if anyone is interested, the Keeway TXM200 has a mono-shock (non-adjustable) rear suspension that works pretty good. I have never bottomed it out, even with a passenger. The TXM does have the oil-cooler as standard equipment. The Chinese tires on mine are very good. Brand name on tires: Cordial. As I reported earlier, mine does not like to go over 100 km/h but will do it if I lay down a bit and tuck in. It will cruise very nicely at 90 to 100, even with passenger, but just runs out of breath above 100. I don't think it intentionally has a limiter, just a very small carb! I concur that finding neutral is a pain. The TXM comes with a small rack on the back. I went to the Yamaha dealer and got a very nice 26 litre box which happens to match up to the Keeway rack very well. The box is well-made and is lockable and removable. I now have locking storage on my Keeway 200. My full-face Nolan helmet fits inside perfectly for safe-keeping.

I have ridden mine nearly full-blast at all times since I got it, and yes, it is slow, but it is rock-steady and beats the crap out of having to ride around everywhere on one of the typical noodle-bikes that most everyone else is riding around on up here. The real advantage is on the bumpy roads that the little bikes crash their little tiny suspensions on.

Yeah gas here is dirt cheap. with what a can of soft drink costs i can fill up my tank like 30+ times. I haven't had chance to take it in to the dealership yet cause of the weekend n tomorrow is a national holiday. aside from the Little problems I'm having i really like the bike.

[pokerkid]

I have ridden mine nearly full-blast at all times since I got it, and yes, it is slow, but it is rock-steady and beats the crap out of having to ride around everywhere on one of the typical noodle-bikes that most everyone else is riding around on up here. The real advantage is on the bumpy roads that the little bikes crash their little tiny suspensions on.

thats exactly why these Chinese bikes sell so well in many countries.

[BSJ]

Can anyone give me the address of a Keeway dealer in Pattaya I have been all through the topic and had a look on the Keeway website and cannot see one....cheers!

Go to the end of Thepprasit Rd where it meets Sukhumvit Rd and on your left (North West side) you will see a no-name motorcycle shop with 2 white & one silver RKV200....waiting for you to arrive. Park around the front, where there is room, and you will be visually assaulted with a myriad collection of Chinese 2 and 3 wheeled conveyance. There maybe a Motard or 2 in amongst them. I will have a look later if I go by there.

[BSJ]

Just an update. I called in to the Chinese bike shop at Thepprasit and Sukhumvit Rds and there are no Keeway motards. There are 3 Keeway RKV 200's as previously mentioned at 61,800 on the road and 3 Ryuka 200's in green, white and yellow which are same as the Keeway....with different badges. Didn't get the price as the salesgirl walked off after she told me the Keeway price, and I said "61,800 for that....you have to be kidding!"

[sic103]

Just an update. I called in to the Chinese bike shop at Thepprasit and Sukhumvit Rds and there are no Keeway motards. There are 3 Keeway RKV 200's as previously mentioned at 61,800 on the road and 3 Ryuka 200's in green, white and yellow which are same as the Keeway....with different badges. Didn't get the price as the salesgirl walked off after she told me the Keeway price, and I said "61,800 for that....you have to be kidding!"

That's about 1800 us. So cheap compared to here. Damn our "socialist" economy lol. How's the warranty service over there? Here it's valid for 4 months / 4000 kms. N they charge you for everything. If you take it for oil service which is covered in the warranty they still charge you for the service n the oil. To top off, the oil they supply you is of questionable origins. Under the bill they state motul but I've seem them grab the oil bottles (assorted brands) n all already opened! That's why first thing i do when i get her home is change the oil myself. My friend asked me to accompany him when he bought his first bike an arsenII 150 (different name in Thailand?) About 8 months ago to this other dealership.... When they handed his bike i gave it a look around n it was missing the kick starter. When i brought it up the mechanic just gave me this annoyed look walked off n came back with it mounted it n walked off again. My friend started it n it wouldn't idle. I was so pissed i went to the sales girl to complain n they had it fixed. The keeway quality is far from the Japanese for now. The service in my country is downright indignant. The administrative part all great. They treat customers as they should. The service (mechanics mostly thugs) is a piss off if you don't know them.

[macknife]

Note to self... Don't move to Venezuela.

[mark131v]

Just an update. I called in to the Chinese bike shop at Thepprasit and Sukhumvit Rds and there are no Keeway motards. There are 3 Keeway RKV 200's as previously mentioned at 61,800 on the road and 3 Ryuka 200's in green, white and yellow which are same as the Keeway....with different badges. Didn't get the price as the salesgirl walked off after she told me the Keeway price, and I said "61,800 for that....you have to be kidding!"

Hi BSJ, they must have been giving you the fallang price mate as I bought the gray one for 59.990 and I am very happy with it, I am a novice with manual bikes so don't have anything to compare it with but it doesn't look or feel at all cheap and it is also a really nice ride. I have had problems finding neutral but that is probably not helped by me being as delicate as a bull in a china shop and the wife seems not to have a problem finding it, everything else is working well and it looks like a good bike to learn on. It is early days with it yet but all the impression's are good and it feels way quick enough and sounds good for me after coming from a yamaha spark, it feels really stable when riding as well far more so than any of the mopeds I have ridden, it is also full fallang size so comfortable for me and I reckon well worth the money!!, they still had the two white ones when I left and also some keeway 200 chopper type jobbies at the same price, I asked about the Motard version theTX 200 but he didnt seem to have heard of it

edited to say I just noticed you said 61,800 on the road but we got the insurance and theft coverage and all in it came to 64,900 otr.....

Edited June 29, 2013 by mark131v

[sic103]

I got a question..... The stock tires are 100/80-17 butt I found an online store that carry the pair of sport demon. Front 110/70-17 rear 130/70-17. Any problems?

[thaicbr]

I got a question..... The stock tires are 100/80-17 butt I found an online store that carry the pair of sport demon. Front 110/70-17 rear 130/70-17. Any problems?

Depends on the size of the rear wheel. But I would say they would not fit.

Try for Michelin sporties

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[BSJ]

Just an update. I called in to the Chinese bike shop at Thepprasit and Sukhumvit Rds and there are no Keeway motards. There are 3 Keeway RKV 200's as previously mentioned at 61,800 on the road and 3 Ryuka 200's in green, white and yellow which are same as the Keeway....with different badges. Didn't get the price as the salesgirl walked off after she told me the Keeway price, and I said "61,800 for that....you have to be kidding!"

Hi BSJ, they must have been giving you the fallang price mate as I bought the gray one for 59.990 and I am very happy with it, I am a novice with manual bikes so don't have anything to compare it with but it doesn't look or feel at all cheap and it is also a really nice ride. I have had problems finding neutral but that is probably not helped by me being as delicate as a bull in a china shop and the wife seems not to have a problem finding it, everything else is working well and it looks like a good bike to learn on. It is early days with it yet but all the impression's are good and it feels way quick enough and sounds good for me after coming from a yamaha spark, it feels really stable when riding as well far more so than any of the mopeds I have ridden, it is also full fallang size so comfortable for me and I reckon well worth the money!!, they still had the two white ones when I left and also some keeway 200 chopper type jobbies at the same price, I asked about the Motard version theTX 200 but he didnt seem to have heard of it

edited to say I just noticed you said 61,800 on the road but we got the insurance and theft coverage and all in it came to 64,900 otr.....

It does look good in Silver but I would go for the White if I was to buy one. I saw some off-roaders there but I think the Shineray 250 would kick their ass....if only I could get my mitts on a Shineray.....but they still may not be registerable unfortunately. Would be a cheap toy!

[mark131v]

Just an update. I called in to the Chinese bike shop at Thepprasit and Sukhumvit Rds and there are no Keeway motards. There are 3 Keeway RKV 200's as previously mentioned at 61,800 on the road and 3 Ryuka 200's in green, white and yellow which are same as the Keeway....with different badges. Didn't get the price as the salesgirl walked off after she told me the Keeway price, and I said "61,800 for that....you have to be kidding!"

Hi BSJ, they must have been giving you the fallang price mate as I bought the gray one for 59.990 and I am very happy with it, I am a novice with manual bikes so don't have anything to compare it with but it doesn't look or feel at all cheap and it is also a really nice ride. I have had problems finding neutral but that is probably not helped by me being as delicate as a bull in a china shop and the wife seems not to have a problem finding it, everything else is working well and it looks like a good bike to learn on. It is early days with it yet but all the impression's are good and it feels way quick enough and sounds good for me after coming from a yamaha spark, it feels really stable when riding as well far more so than any of the mopeds I have ridden, it is also full fallang size so comfortable for me and I reckon well worth the money!!, they still had the two white ones when I left and also some keeway 200 chopper type jobbies at the same price, I asked about the Motard version theTX 200 but he didnt seem to have heard of it

edited to say I just noticed you said 61,800 on the road but we got the insurance and theft coverage and all in it came to 64,900 otr.....

It does look good in Silver but I would go for the White if I was to buy one. I saw some off-roaders there but I think the Shineray 250 would kick their ass....if only I could get my mitts on a Shineray.....but they still may not be registerable unfortunately. Would be a cheap toy!

It was a toss up white or black but if the shop had the TX or the other motard version I reckon it would have been a bit more complicated...I am loving it though!.....

[Issanman]

I got a question..... The stock tires are 100/80-17 butt I found an online store that carry the pair of sport demon. Front 110/70-17 rear 130/70-17. Any problems?

Depends on the size of the rear wheel. But I would say they would not fit.

Try for Michelin sporties

My TXM200 came with 100/80-17 on the front but the back has a 130/70-17.

Both are mounted on nice fat wheels, with the rear wheel being a bit fatter.

[thaicbr]

 

I got a question..... The stock tires are 100/80-17 butt I found an online store that carry the pair of sport demon. Front 110/70-17 rear 130/70-17. Any problems?

Depends on the size of the rear wheel. But I would say they would not fit.

Try for Michelin sporties

 

My TXM200 came with 100/80-17 on the front but the back has a 130/70-17.  

Both are mounted on nice fat wheels, with the rear wheel being a bit fatter.  

In that case it would be OK for the sport demons.

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[sic103]

I got a question..... The stock tires are 100/80-17 butt I found an online store that carry the pair of sport demon. Front 110/70-17 rear 130/70-17. Any problems?

Depends on the size of the rear wheel. But I would say they would not fit.

Try for Michelin sporties

My TXM200 came with 100/80-17 on the front but the back has a 130/70-17.

Both are mounted on nice fat wheels, with the rear wheel being a bit fatter.

In that case it would be OK for the sport demons.

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It's not the rear I'm worried about because it's the same size as the stock(130/70-17). it's the front. The sport demons front that i found are 110/70-17 I'm sure it will fit but I'm worried about affecting the handling in a negative way being a bit fatter n lower profile than the stock (100/80-17) tires that came with my rkv

[sic103]

I got a question..... The stock tires are 100/80-17 butt I found an online store that carry the pair of sport demon. Front 110/70-17 rear 130/70-17. Any problems?

Depends on the size of the rear wheel. But I would say they would not fit.

Try for Michelin sporties

My TXM200 came with 100/80-17 on the front but the back has a 130/70-17.

Both are mounted on nice fat wheels, with the rear wheel being a bit fatter.

In that case it would be OK for the sport demons.

Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE Q6

It's not the rear I'm worried about because it's the same size as the stock(130/70-17). it's the front. The sport demons front that i found are 110/70-17 I'm sure it will fit but I'm worried about affecting the handling in a negative way being a bit fatter n lower profile than the stock (100/80-17) tires that came with my rkv